Dr. Boyce: Tom Joyner’s Tasteless Assault on Tavis Smiley and Cornel West

I love Tom Joyner.  In case you’re wondering, in “black political speak,” when a commentator mentions that they love someone, that means that they are about to crack a walnut over their forehead.  I remember Tavis Smiley telling Al Sharpton that he loved him right before he proceeded to attack him with the ferocity of an angry baby’s mama looking for additional child support.

My mouth hit the floor this week as Joyner (aka “The Fly Jock”), the man whose work ethic I respect like no other, somehow had the audacity (in a recent article) to compare Tavis Smiley and Cornel West to Mark Halperin, the MSNBC commentator who referred to President Barack Obama as a d*ck on national television.   You no longer need to speculate as to whether or not Tom has a personal issue with Tavis Smiley, the cat fighting is now out of the bag.

While there is certainly room for Tom to disagree with Tavis and Cornel’s critiques of President Obama (it’s ok to criticize the criticizer), Tom’s comparison of Cornel and Tavis with Halperin is entirely off-base.  Smiley and West have never, at any point, used such distasteful language and the kind of one-syllable thinking that Halperin used during his insult of President Obama.  In fact, even Smiley’s critiques have grown more diplomatic and thoughtful through time, and I still look forward to any of the president’s senior advisors taking the time to explain why Smiley and West are wrong (note: when people can’t debate the facts, they avoid the issues and simply try to discredit you).

But it is Tom Joyner himself who has joined Halperin in the ideological basement by making comments that would be better suited for a high school locker room:

“I said I’d wait until something pissed me off so bad that I would have the words harsh enough to express what I was really feeling about him and his side piece – I mean side kick – Cornel West,” said Joyner.

Now, I don’t know what hood you’re from, but in my city, referring to a man’s friend as his “side piece” is usually a reference to his sexuality.  Whether Tom is trying to imply that the relationship between West and Smiley is more than meets the eye, I have no idea.  But this kind of remark has no place in print during such a critical point in the history of black American political discourse.

Joyner goes further on his peculiar tirade by claiming that somehow, Halperin’s vulgar remarks about President Obama were encouraged by the decision of West and Smiley to critique Obama Administration policies:

“These two have done much worse than what Halperin has done because they set the tone for it, opened the door to it, and must take much of the blame for creating a climate that would make a white, professional journalist feel comfortable verbally and vulgarly attacking the first black president of the United States.”

OK.  So there you have it.  If you disagree with Obama Administration policies on dealing with the black unemployment or mass incarceration crisis, you have now given permission to any white man in America to refer to President Obama as a d*ck. So, the only logical solution would be for all black Americans to mute their Democratic voice and remain silent about any policy with which they disagree.

Tom goes deeper in expressing his personal issues with Tavis by taking us on a trip down memory lane.  He explains how Tavis went from being an empowered advocate for black people to becoming the selfish, jealous, tortured soul who was determined to destroy black America by disagreeing with President Obama.

“I had so much respect for him before his primary goal became selling books, and, later, selling out,” said Joyner.  He also says that, “I’ve already fired Tavis and Cornel. There’s nothing either can ever do for me or with me again.”

Joyner’s remark about selling books and selling out seems a bit odd from a man who’s earned millions with his “black activism brought to you by Walmart.”  I also remember Tom’s defense of Walmart when we fought on the case of Heather Ellis, a black college student who was facing 15-years in prison for cutting in line at one of their stores (Walmart mysteriously “lost” the videotape that showed Heather being slammed to the ground by police).  During my appearance on the Tom Joyner Morning Show to discuss the case, I was disappointed to see Tom standing in defense of Walmart like the slave holding the broom on massa’s front porch.   As a Business School Professor, I can appreciate Tom’s ability to work capitalism to his advantage, but he is the last millionaire who should be challenging Smiley’s decision to sell products.

Perhaps Tom might consider the possibility that the reason Tavis and Cornel have endured the criticism they’ve received for speaking out is because they care for black people so much.  In spite of their imperfections, Cornel and Tavis have an undeniable and storied track record when it comes to advocating for African American issues.  The same can be said for Tom Joyner, Al Sharpton and others who disagree with them.  The reality is that they simply have different approaches to solving the same problem, but their advocacy is no less genuine than those who embrace a different set of tactics.

By debasing the conversation into such a nasty personal attack, Tom has engaged in the very same dastardly behavior that many felt Tavis displayed back in 2008.  If Tom is indeed attempting to imply that Tavis or Cornel is gay or bi-sexual, then he is simply using homophobia in black America to get people distracted from the core issue.  I expect more from Tom Joyner, and I sincerely hope he has the maturity to issue an apology.  Most significantly, his efforts to terrorize dissenting voices in the black community by demanding that they remain silent is nothing short of ruthless, un-American and ultimately oppressive – I encourage anyone listening to this foolishness to reach for their own facts and form individual opinions without allowing prominent black folks to shape their thinking.  A man who truly loves black people doesn’t act this way, and Tom Joyner might need to grow up.

Dr. Boyce Watkins is a Professor at Syracuse University and founder of the Your Black World Coalition.  To have Dr. Boyce commentary delivered to your email, please click here.

 

  • http://twitter.com/micwiljrSC Michael Wilson, Jr.

    I can understand why Tom Joyner and others are upset at Tavis and Dr. West.  I haven’t been totally happy about some of the criticism coming from Smiley & West that’s being directed toward POTUS Obama as they have, at times, seem to be rather personal and not totally fair.  However, for Tom Joyner to try and make a comparison between then and what Mark Halperin said is not only a reach, it’s rather ridiculous.  What this article by Tom Joyner says more than anything his anger and modern contempt of Dr. West and particularly Tavis.  This entire situation between the 3 is rather sad and unfortunate.

  • Anonymous

    After all is said and done, and none of these men, good or bad get their way from a sociopolitical climate which was built by very racist and discriminating Anglos and will always be held on to by them. They did not steal this country, enslave Africans and usurp a great number of nations to hand anything over to any ‘black’ person.

    This means that everyone is beating their heads against the wall trying to get Obama to do something he is not authorized to do and most likely has been warned to stay away from.
    The Anglo-Elite have got to be sitting in their ivory towers laughing at the calamity of their endeavors, and/or betting each other what will happen next  because they’ve placed a specially picked black man in their “front-man” seat. They probably laughed hard after sticking GW Bush in that seat and watching his stupid mutterings, while thinking to themselves “If we can put this idiot in there and make him convincing, we can now put an ‘N’ in there too”! (Think: What do they need Obama for?) When you start counting all the advantages and reasons a ‘white’ supremacist nation would need a ‘black’ face at this period in time, you will then understand his true purpose.

    Obama is doing all the things they want him to do. He’s doing all the things they would have done, if they had put anyone in that seat. There is nothing more he can do and there will be nothing he will do. So to see these famous ‘black’ men attacking each other is not serious enough to make a difference to anyone, but is funny enough to make the Anglo-Elite slap-happy with laughter.
    There is fortune to be made if one stays in Obama’s shadow..There is misfortune to get on his bad side.

    • Kevin T.

      I see your point, but does anyone find it eerie that on the 40th Anniversery of Dr. King’s Speech at the Lincoln Memorial, the same year that Dr. King predicted that an African American would be elected 40 years later this came to pass. You could argue that it’s a coincidence, but why not a lightskinned or darkskinned Black Man. Obama’s not only  Biracial, his father was from the very country that our people were ripped from. It’s like a rebukke of America’s one-drop Black Blood B.S. 

      • Anonymous

        @Kevin T. If you want
        to know exactly why they chose a group of Kenyans to be educated in
        America, and why a white woman from Hawaii just happened to have one of
        their babies,.you would have to ask the group of elites who thought up
        this devious plan. You might find a bit of information by research but
        the way they do things tend to make no sense to us. We can only follow
        the results of such folly to see what transpires because of their ‘big’
        plans.

        As I think about it now I wonder how many of those Kenyan men gave white women babies. How many are here and what are they doing? Surely Obama’s father isn’t the only lucky man or was it just luck. I think it was planned and if it were planned, then there must be a few more Obama-like drones out there.

        I also thought. “Why not a full blooded descendent of the slaves here”. I think that they wanted nothing of the descendents of the slaves because it means something special to them. Colin Powell, was also not a descendant of the American slaves.I have no idea about Condoleezza maybe females can be descendants?

        • Zaga

          sounds a bit farfetched

          • Kekanu

            I agree. Discussing whether Mr. Obama is “Black enough” or whether Black females can be descendents are really counter-productive. Kevin T. sounds like one of those crazy birthers that refuse to let facts get in the way of their dogma.  Obama-like drones????? FOH!

          • Anonymous

            I say Obama-like drones because the ‘whites’ did bring a group of young African men here. They said it was to educate them, but judging by the way they treat us here, the true reasons are always suspect.
            Now One of the offspring of these young men has amazingly (a quite quickly) gotten to the facade of president!
            I’m just saying. What were the true intentions of the Anglos, and how many of these young men had children here? Where are they all now? Those young African men they brought here and whatever children they produced?

          • Anonymous

            I say Obama-like drones because the ‘whites’ did bring a group of young African men here. They said it was to educate them, but judging by the way they treat us here, the true reasons are always suspect.
            Now One of the offspring of these young men has amazingly (a quite quickly) gotten to the facade of president!
            I’m just saying. What were the true intentions of the Anglos, and how many of these young men had children here? Where are they all now? Those young African men they brought here and whatever children they produced?

          • Anonymous

            @Zaga: You do know that they actually had a special program back during John F. Kennedy days. –To bring young African Men here to educate them right? Why they thought this was important is questionable, and they did bring a bunch of them from Kenya. Obama’s father was one in that bunch. There is always a reason for what the Anglo-Elite do. Helping African people has never been their forte!

          • 1now

            There have not been very many occasions (if any) when the “Anglo-Elite” (I like that term, think I’ll use it) has showed up on the shores of Africa and it turned out well for us.

          • Anonymous

            @c207e1c6ff20676959f2cbaf771d6d83:disqus : When you aren’t constantly studying, reading the right books, and doing constant research, and when you can’t recognize what is happening to you, and the world around you, IN YOUR FACE! Many things seem far fetched.

            Some of the things that should seem, and are, far fetched are made so believable, that the masses pass them down to their children generation after generation. Things that can be researched and found to be true are ignored or considered unbelievable by those unwilling to study and find out the truth. We must endeavor to find out what is really happening to us, and those around the world!

            Some of us do not want to know the truth and are more comfortable just believing in fantasy, some cannot handle the truth, and would rather believe the lies they are constantly fed.
            What is truly far fetched is the way humans are inhumane to each other. Understand that we will remain ONE RACE no matter what the evil warmongers tell us. We will be free only when we can free our minds. Contrary to what we have been conditioned to believe OUR MINDS ARE NOT FREE!

            I implore you to study long and study strong.  Start by reading the late Professor Howard Zinn’s ‘ A People’s History of The United States, also try to read all of Randall Robinson’s books. This is whether your color is black, white, or in between. Read the late William Cooper’s ‘Behold A Pale Horse’, that’ll blow your mind! Read hundreds of books pertaining to everything social, and political, and throw in some psychology, and biology books for good measure, but don’t just read these books, try to understand them correctly. Good luck!
            Oh and toss that bible it’s more harmful and far fetched than you could imagine. Which is hard to believe I’m sure!

        • Tamtam05

          A decendent of slaves in America will never become president of this country. White people are too afraid. They like for Black people to make the feel comfortable and not appear threatening to them.

          • Anonymous

            @9526d63e6d63835f842447e09c30f895:disqus When you say that a descendant will never become a president you are obviously thinking on the inference that a president is the TRUE seat of power in this country. I beg you to change that opinion. It is what they would have you, yes all of us, believe!

            What I have been able to understand now is that, if they can put a dunce in that fake position, and make us take it, they can put anyone in that position and make us take it.
             I think that they are putting people in that position now according to what they can use them for, or what they need  this fake leader to represent, according to their next dominant and diabolical motives.

            Thinking along these lines I would ask myself “would they want to put a woman in that fake position soon”? I don’t see  what need they would have for a female fake president any time soon. It appears that a ‘black’ face suits them fine for at least the next four years. After that we must see what they do. I think they will find another ‘black’ face to represent their pillaging of other ‘nations of color’ and ransacking of this nation, and their genocidal activities to boot. Wait! Perhaps a ‘black’ woman? Michelle maybe? Nah!

            We should expect Obama to win regardless of our care, the media will make whatever they wish seem real . The media will tell us whatever lies we need to hear to except whatever outcomes we see. The Anglo-Elite does have control of our voting equipment and they do control all government, politicians, and all judicial–EVERYTHING,.-including us!

          • CPII

            I don’t know the souce of your information, but you got it right!

            “What does your fourth of July have to do with me”

            Frederick Douglas

          • Anonymous

            @CPII : I’m  quickly approaching sixty and I’ve been reading,  listening, and researching everything I can get my hands on for over thirty years straight.
            How can people see if they do not try? How can people learn if they do not study? How can people believe if they don’t understand the subjects they are preconditioned to believe? How can people see what is happening all around them, if they cannot see what is happening right in front of them?

            The 4th of July is another concoction used to fortify lies already socially conditioned or factored in. The date bring emotional reaction to people who can’t even understand what it all means, and what really transpired to cause it’s creation.

            Imagine everyone conditioned to accept all of these ideals as they happily help, condition their children along the same ideology. Now imagine the whole history of it as completely fabricated and bogus.

            HARD TO BELIEVE RIGHT? It should be even harder to believe that the descendants of slaves are so caught up in this too! It should be difficult for us to believe an establishment that has caused us nothing but continued hardship, incarceration and death generation after generation. It makes psychological sense that some of us can shut down, and just enjoy while “Rome is burning”.
            Just remember that we are constantly being lied to!

          • 1now

            Don’t waste your time trying to enlighten Ronnie. You can only save those who want to be saved. Apparently you have done your homework. I know the information you are sharing is accurate and is not hard to validate if one takes the time. My mother told me that you don’t have to defend the truth because it will stand on its own.

          • WizardG

            @46069c50113bb7879c53205e28b2eb40:disqus Thank you. I realize that when a person has been conditioned to preconceived misconceptions there is rarely hope for them until something tragic and contrary snaps them out of their illusions and confusions etc. I understand that if a person cannot attack the information, they must try to antagonize the writer in some other way.

            This person cannot believe me and would rather believe the words of..say, GW Bush. But does he realize that Bush was a C average student in school and that every business he attempted he failed? His wealthy and powerful connections made him a governor, and finally a president where on both positions he also failed immensely.
            He would not criticize Bush’s writings I’m sure.

            I try to write in way that anyone can understand. Surely he understands this?
            I know he’s only here to criticize, create confusion and compound ignorance.   There is good reason for me to label him retarded.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GNADHJUGHI5BH5O3KYIVXBLBEQ MadMax

          wizardg-Medication time…

          • Anonymous

            @MadMax: You stoop low to insult me sir?

        • Ronniesaunders

          wizardg: You use the term Anglo elite quite often. Are you Caucasian? What is your true name?

          • Anonymous

            @Ronniesaunders: I use the term Anglo-Elite as to separate the so-called ‘white’ people from a special group, or secret society in which we are very seldom aware exist, or are never given media information about, because they own the media they use the media to support all of their actions and mental suggestions etc. Our minds are the psychological product of their constant tampering.

            I am African-American born in Shreveport and a product of slave ancestors. I really started studying these people when I found out that they used the CIA to dump crack cocaine into black neighborhoods. As I watched them lie their way out of it, or cover it up completely until it has literally disappeared from our consciousness. I started asking myself WHY! Why did they do it? Of course I realized that since they had no love for blacks and hated it whenever we did something to get back at them for showing their hatred for us, by using our tax paid law enforcement to assault us. We rebelled because of Rodney King. And they retaliated by using Crack on us, and at the same time using the profits to fight a war against the democratic people of Nicaragua. They effortlessly killed two or more birds with one stone! During that time Colin Powell helped bring drugs in on military craft and Clinton helped the CIA bring it in through Arkansas while governor, which is one of the reasons they tapped him for president. Keep in my that presidents are NOT the true base of power!

            As for my name. It is insignificant at this time, because there are so many haters out there and the least they know about you the better. I don’t mind sharing my name with friends, but on the Internet, one wonders who is friend and who is foe?

          • Ronniesaunders

            Very well said and I agree with a few of your points. But tell me brother how in the hell do you know that Colin Powell helped bring drugs in on a military craft and Clinton helped the CIA bring drugs into  Arkansas while governor? Where is your evidentiary proof to support those statements?
            Why did the fake ass Maxine Water STOP with her Congressional investigation as to the role that the CIA played in briniging in Crack into LA etc?
            Who got to old sell out Maxine? She put on a good show didn’t she? Who made Maxine STOP with her invesitgation of the CIA’s role in bringing in Crack into the hood?
             The President of the United States presently is primarily a ceremonial position in which they seve as the behest of the ruling elites and Plutocrats who are really the movers and shakers that make up that infamous one (1) percent crowd.
            Both FDR and JFK may have independent of the ruling class of robber barons, plutocrats and corporate elites.
             

          • Anonymous

            @56a731d7c1c00cc7fa7e23b21c98b5a0:disqus I received my information from books, and other competent, sources that were researching the issues at the time. A book written by one of Clinton’s State Trooper bodyguards while he was Governor was very revealing about many things concerning Clinton, his wife, and Clinton’s connection with the CIA during that period. I read the book and returned it but I often wish I had kept it for reference. I might try to find  it and purchase it again. Clinton’s participation and great help is probably what got him chosen to be the next front-man President!

            As for Maxine Waters. She was stepping to far out of her safety zone and I didn’t hesitate to realize that she had been warned to back-off or suffer the consequences. They had to shut that whole issue down and they had to keep her from shooting off too much against them. Now everything about the crack issue is nearly forgotten and no one paid the price for assaulting the people with that stuff and it also led to a great increase in prison terms, gang growth, gang drug wars, deaths, sickness, and impoverished lives which continues today. What you may not know is that the CIA had known about the affects of crack because they had earlier seen the middle-class in Peru crash behind a paste-form of cocaine similar to crack. So they knew what it would do and they did it purposely. 

            Those Irish Kennedy’s were hard headed and they suffered death because they wouldn’t heed the warnings. Just like King, but some people are like that. Once they get going it’s difficult to stop their roll.

            We are talking about a secret society that has its bases in big colleges like Harvard, and Yale. Obama spent some time around that area didn’t he? We know about the Bush family but the list is a who’s who of powerful super-wealthy people.

            Never stop reading, watching,listening, learning and remembering. Then never stop trying to inform the masses. Whether they like it or not!

    • Tamtam05

      So true! If Black people really knew what our government is doing they would not look at race so much, because as you said in so many words, President Obama is not running anything.  There was a reason President Obama moved so swiftly in the political arena. What the government allowed to happen on Wall Street is criminal. As usual Black people are not paying attention and is uninformed. We don’t vote and are not part of the political process. No matter what color the president is, we need to hold them accountable and make our voices heard. But of course Blacks won’t do that because we don’t stick together for anything or any reason, unlike other ethnic groups. We are easily divided and conquered.

      • Anonymous

        @9526d63e6d63835f842447e09c30f895:disqus The government is not the problem the Anglo-Elite who manipulate and twist the government into something vile is the problem.
        The politicians are self-righteous greedy people who are looking out for their own interests. Our government is supposed to be ours, and it is supposed to function to serve us, but the elite have used it for themselves.
        There is a reason why we are all so confused and divided whether we are black or white. People from other nation have never gone through the turmoil that African-Americans have suffered. The brainwashing and the conditioning is virtually unrecognized by us because of numerous reasons.One main reason being the European’s religious missionary works. That has contaminated the black mind worse than the after affects of slavery. We were a divided people long ago, as time passes we can only become more divided and more complacent. Lastly. There is no reason to vote for people, the political machine is bogus, there are however, issues that we should vote on.

  • http://twitter.com/micwiljrSC Michael Wilson, Jr.

    Another aspect of this, sadly, has to do with ego’s and that’s one of the last  things this beef between these gentlemen should be about, a battle of ego’s

  • Tim

    Black folks have got to stop being so touchy about criticism constructive or otherwise. When in the public spotlight there is to be some criticism.  There are some choices that President Obama made that I question. It is alright to disagree, but we shouldn’t reach the point of being totally disagreeable.

  • Kevin T.

    I have some concerns of my own about the position of our community’s many issues on President Obama’s priority list, but,. I keep in mind the blatant racism and dangers that he and The First Family face daily. Obama’s the first president in the nation’s history who is much safer abroad than at home. I realize first and foremost that the most well intentioned politician will say whatever it takes to get elected. Meanwhile, our local elected officials need to be held more accountable. Whether or not you believe that Dr.Martin Luther King, Jr. was a prophet, another leader of his magnitude is not going to come along anytime soon. We each need to be our own leader and help those who we can along the way. 

    • Anonymous

      @529e8839bfbd3f84d9048f0609e7c724:disqus : KNOW THAT OUR
      ‘black’ leaders are not allowed to speak too broadly in our favor. They are warned just as MLKing was warned. These are times when the Anglo-Elite will not tolerate an African-American ‘black’ uprising of any kind. There will be no-one willing to sacrifice their life to bring us up in this confused country. Most people (including many ‘blacks’) are twisted and/or misguided in such a way that they are unable to see reality for themselves let alone help the masses, and as I have said before. Speaking out to the black nation in a positive, but Anglo defying way, spells disaster. Those who have tried were either murdered or imprisoned. Plus the level of the Anglo-Elite media is such that they will go to great lengths to block, denigrate, demonize and spread boldfaced lies against anyone who has the gift to reach the multitudes.

      • Tamtam05

        You are right on the money! I thought at one time that Tavis was attacking the president because of jealousy, because he was receiving all the limelight and the president took away his attention. Today, I have a change of heart, for more reasons than one. I am not happy with the presidents policies or actions. I did expect more from him, maybe too much. From the way he sold out on Healthcare Reform, continuing the Bush tax cuts, the financial Reform Bill. His foriegn policies are most troubling, especially towards the Israel/Palestine issue and the NATO’s attack on Liyba. Black people just see the prez being Black and then president. Most don’t know the issues. It’s ok to disagree with the president, but most Black people see it as an attack on the prez. Well keep attacking me because if the election was today, I would not vote for him. He’s being punk’d by the press because he’s acting like a punk. Know the issues and you will see what I’m talking about. If you don’t know the issues that’s affecting this country and only concerned with a Black president, then you are WILLIE LYNCHED!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GNADHJUGHI5BH5O3KYIVXBLBEQ MadMax

          Tamtam05–Your comments reflect a failure to understand houw our government works. First of all, Obama was elected POTUS, not king. Our laws are built on a system of checks and balances, and power sharing. President Obama “mistake” if you can call it that, was the belief that the Republicans would be anxious to fix all of the problems they caused. Instead, they used the teabaggers as cover, for blaming Obama for everything that has ever gone wrong in this country. Not 57 days after his inauguration, the teabaggers were in the streets complaining about their taxes, using some of the most vile hate-speech we have ever seen directed against a human being. Instead of challenging these twisted views, the media, led by Fake News, actually promoted the teabaggers’ cause. As for your perception of Obama’s bad policies, I’m pretty sure that you came to your conclusions as a result of your PhD in Public Policy, but you’d better go get your money back. The public option (healthcare for all) was the best option, but was not economically viable. It would have put all of the insurance companies out of business, and made an untold number of people unemployed. President Obama and the Democratic Congress got what they could…a compromise. The American people love an entitlement, so just as Social Security and Medicare changed over the decades, so will healthcare reform. People will soon realize that once again, they were bamboozled by the same people who bought up all the hospitals and clinics after healthcare failed under the Clintons, and drove prices up in the first place. Obama continued the Bush tax cuts as a compromise to keep paying unemployment benefits, or were you paying attention?  

          • Aaron

            Amen MadMax!! TELL IT LIKE IT TIS!!!

          • Ralph2x

            Why Libya?

          • Anonymous

            @MadMax   : All of your information is skewed sir. Your world view is incorrect.  Your statement about checks and balances is incorrect.(What they tell us is what many accept as truth) Your mistake is that you haven’t checked to see what is really occurring in this country, and your not being able to work through the multitude of fiction and lies.
             
            THE WHOLE HEALTH ISSUE actually appears to be a concoction to give Obama a bit more affirmation as a leader working towards the good of the people, as his name is used to do just the opposite. They never meant to give us anything nearing a decent healthcare plan. In fact they are punishing those who don’t have, or can’t afford health care. In short..We are being played! It’s a game, a big con game that most with conditioned, ‘Americanized’ minds, will fail to see, or believe.
            CHANGING OUR SOCIETY to socialized healthcare would not have crashed the insurance companies, it would have made them adjust their prices.(They literally own most of the hospitals and health facilities). As it is now, they will be making more money than ever because of the law forcing people to buy from the insurance companies.

            THE INFORMATION you contribute is flawed and I’ve heard others use it, especially right-wing conservative crackpots.
            You say that we “The American People” love entitlements? No we love to be treated fairly and the money we have paid into our government, to be used to benefit us, and not to make the Anglo-Elite, their cohorts, and politicians wealthier! Not to spend on wars so that the elite can take the residuals of war as billion dollar profits, and not so that they can ship pallets with ten billion on them into Iraq to disappear never to be spoken about again! Much of the rhetoric you use sounds like the kind of words a Limbaugh or Hannity would say but with a slight twist.
            You are still thinking with the impression that the government is being run as they told you it’s supposed to run. You are convinced that everything is exactly as it seems. I’m asking you to study from better resources, then step back and take a much closer look at this country from an much different, and open minded perspective. You might find yourself quite surprised and you might have to rethink your entire position.

          • Tamtam05

            Yeah I was paying attention. So what’s going to happen when those unemployment benefits run out. He’s right back where he started from. You think if it was a republican president they would have compromised with the dems? No, they would have done exactly what they wanted to do.

            Example: George H.W. Bush sprearheaded and sold NAFTA. Phil Graham sprearheaded and sold Banking Dergulation which assisted in the meltdown on wall street, both Bush and Graham are republicans. Guess who signed both bills into law compromising with the republicans? Bill Clinton! He signed both bills into law thinking the republicans were going to work with him to pass healthcare reform, they didn’t. Where are the jobs because of NAFTA. The banks and wall street created the housing crisis and property value is at an all time low.

            Obama is trying to make nice with the republicans who have no intentions of working with him on anything and they continue to disrespect him. He needs to do the right thing by this country, not corporate america. He can’t play both sides of the fence. The economy is in the tank and his war mongering is not helping.

            He wanted the job, he’s got it and he had the American people behind him, until he wimped out.

            LMAO!! You don’t need a PHD to understand what’s going on. Reading and listening helps. The democrats is full it just as much as the republicans. When Black people stop being WILLIE LYNCHED you will understand. America didn’t stop being America just because Pres Obama was elected, don’t get it twisted!

        • Aaron

          Tamtam05, YOU’RE JUST LIKE TAVIS AND CORNEL WEST, RABID A-H’s!!

        • Anonymous

          So if the election were held today and you won’t vote for Obama, who the hell WOULD you vote for ?   A white conservative racist Republican, an Independent who has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning ???   Or would you sit out the vote, ensuring that someone other than Obama would win ?  Do you really think any of the other candidates have your interest or the interest of Black folk at heart more than Obama does ???  Are you seriously that stupid ???   

          It’s black folk like you and Dr. Boyce that really get my blood boiling.  Trying to act and sound more intelligent than the average black but when you open your mouth to speak you demonstrate that you don’t have a clue about political dynamics and you care more about inflating your own image/ego/self-worth than struggling for black causes.   You disgust me !!   

          Image what it would be like to walk in Obama’s shoes for a few days.   You would LITERALLY have the weight of the WORLD on your shoulders.   And ‘all about you are losing their minds and blaming it on you’.  Do I agree everything Obama does ?  NO.  But I respect the man and I respect the OFFICE of the presidency and I am so damn PROUD that he occupies that office.  At this point in time, I don’t think we could have elected a better person, black or white, to hold that office.

          President Obama is doing the best he can with the hand he was dealt, especially when he has turncoats like you, who should HAVE HIS BACK, rallying against him.   During his campaign and in his acceptance speech, President Obama said “WE ARE THE CHANGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR”.   He never promised to be your soul/sole Savior.   So you want something done about the situation of blacks in this country ?   Get up off your lazy ass and contribute to the cause.  Anyone can sit back and criticize and wait for someone else to do the hard stuff.   Man-up for a change !! Geez, you white Negros disgust me !!

          • Virbea

            I already wrote my comments. but right on.

          • Tamtam05

            Hey President Obama knew what he was getting into, it’s no secret. President Obama is a politician. He want the campaign money just like the rest of them.

            I’m not one of the Black people that’s asking the president about his “Black Agenda”. Black people need to get our own “Black Agenda”. The problems in our community, for the most part, is of our own making at this stage of the game. We don’t vote, don’t know what the political issues of the day are, they affect us. We are still begging the government to educate our kids. I can go on and on!

            I don’t think I’m more intellegent than the next person. But, what I do know is

            1. Americans  lost money in 401K plan and pension because politicans passed banking deregulation and allowed wall street to gamble 40% of it away. The president can’t pass legislation to prevent what happened in 09 from happening again, but he can sure speak more about it, why isn’t he?

            2. I appreciate the fact he brought Healthcare Reform to the forefront, but he made deals with the phamacuetical and insurance companies during the healthcare debate.

            3, The Bush Tax cuts should have never been extended not while most americas property value is in the tank.

            4. Telling the Palestinans he would veto any resolution from the UN for their own state, given the fact the US did the same thing when the UN presented a resolution to stop Aparthied. He went along with NATO in what was suppose to be an humanitarian mission, but it turned into removing Qaddahfi from power. He’s a warmonger and going along with America;s colonialist ways.

            I can go on and on. I’m happy he’s president but that doesn’t mean he gets a free pass. I didn’t like warmongering when Bush/Cheney was in office and I don’t like warmonging by Pres Obama! Know the issues, it’s not always about Black and White when it comes to politics. A politican is a politican. President Obama didn’t move so swiftly up the political ladder by himself, he had a lot of help from big cheeses. I wonder why?
              

        • Anonymous

          So if the election were held today and you won’t vote for Obama, who the hell WOULD you vote for ?   A white conservative racist Republican, an Independent who has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning ???   Or would you sit out the vote, ensuring that someone other than Obama would win ?  Do you really think any of the other candidates have your interest or the interest of Black folk at heart more than Obama does ???  Are you seriously that stupid ???   

          It’s black folk like you and Dr. Boyce that really get my blood boiling.  Trying to act and sound more intelligent than the average black but when you open your mouth to speak you demonstrate that you don’t have a clue about political dynamics and you care more about inflating your own image/ego/self-worth than struggling for black causes.   You disgust me !!   

          Image what it would be like to walk in Obama’s shoes for a few days.   You would LITERALLY have the weight of the WORLD on your shoulders.   And ‘all about you are losing their minds and blaming it on you’.  Do I agree everything Obama does ?  NO.  But I respect the man and I respect the OFFICE of the presidency and I am so damn PROUD that he occupies that office.  At this point in time, I don’t think we could have elected a better person, black or white, to hold that office.

          President Obama is doing the best he can with the hand he was dealt, especially when he has turncoats like you, who should HAVE HIS BACK, rallying against him.   During his campaign and in his acceptance speech, President Obama said “WE ARE THE CHANGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR”.   He never promised to be your soul/sole Savior.   So you want something done about the situation of blacks in this country ?   Get up off your lazy ass and contribute to the cause.  Anyone can sit back and criticize and wait for someone else to do the hard stuff.   Man-up for a change !! Geez, you white Negros disgust me !!

        • Jacque

          You’re Willie Lynched big time.  The media is YT controlled and what’s put out is what they want put out.  I don’t agree with all of the President’s policies, but I’ll take my chances under him than under a Republican.  You really must be out of your damn mind to even consider a Republican.  Have you been paying attention to their disgusting, racist agenda.  Be mad at the President’s policies but don’t cut your nose off and kill any chances WE have of progress.  

          • Tamtam05

            If you really look at it, most of the Presidents policies are the same republican policies. He’s trying to make nice with republicans and corporate america. Look at his policies, it you did that instead of making excuses for him, you would see somethings not right. A politican is a politican and President Obama is no different. How was it that he moved so swiftly in the political arena? From the beginning of his presidency, he has surrounded himself with the same people who caused the meltdown on wall street, he made deals with the pharmacuetal and the insurance companies during the healthcare debate. I appreciate the fact that he put it on the table, but he could have fought harder. The financial bill is a joke. He’s acting like a warmonger continuing the colonialist agenda of the Europeans. Please, know the facts and the issues.

        • Anonymous

          @9526d63e6d63835f842447e09c30f895:disqus You’re right about one thing. Very few people understand what is being done to the rest of the world using Obama’s face and their title as the catalyst. I must continue to infuse into our conditioned mentality that The Office of The President is now a very phony position. There are many things our politicians do that are rarely shared with us. Nothing should surprise us, but alas many things still strike us off balance.

          Just keep asking yourselves to keep trying to find out what profits the elite and pleases these Anglo-Elite in using a ‘black’ man to represent their Nation. The reasons keep adding up!
          As for Willie Lynch. That reference was to bring to our attention how well it works to use divisiveness as a weapon.

          One thing that surprises me is the quality of the politicians who hold very well paid jobs in this country. Many of them should be classified as hopelessly retarded. Some of them do know how to get votes though, but some must have the positions handed to them on silver platters.

          Our government is supposed to be for us but the lunatics and psychopaths under the leadership of the Anglo-Elite have turned it into a safe haven for criminals and traitors who are protected by well trained tax paid yes men. So they’ve got our wealth, and they sell our resources for profit, while we get (and fight over), less than table scraps.

          Willie Lynch (Divide and Conquer Rule) is one of the most important in the ‘Art Of War’. We have seen how many ways people can be divided, and turned against each other, we must recognize how those methods are constantly used here and abroad,  who they affect, and who comes out the winner.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GNADHJUGHI5BH5O3KYIVXBLBEQ MadMax

      I agree. If anyone has been AWOL, it’s been the Congressional Black Caucus, who had an opportunity to speak out for ACORN, and serve as a counterpoise for attacks on President Obama, but they sat silently in their pews, and gave their political enemies the impression that they were weak and impotent, and as could have been predicted, they came after Maxine Waters, Charles Rangel, ACORN, Van Jones, Valerie Jarrett, and others, virtually unopposed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EGXZ26MK42CPGJ2FMIR3VXS4T4 flextime

    Why are we so unhappy with the criticism that has been against Obama?  Is everybody suppose to drink from the same kool-aid and sing kum bi ya to Obama?  We should be applauding our Black scholars for having a different point of view and who are willing to express it.  Most non blacks think all we do is fuss, fight, get fat and sing. I have had this personally told to me by a Chinese immigrant that I work with.

    I do not understand the mentality of black people to down grade opinions that are different than what is conventional.  I prefer to see a Black republican that is polished and articulate than a thuggish uneducated liberal any day of the week.  Both of which have been seen in the past year.  We don’t have to all agree but we need to be happy we have the right to express our views.

    I do have alot of respect for TJMS and has attended the 2nd of his Fantastic Voyage cruises adventures.  Maybe he is getting to big for his britches and needs to stick with what he does best….entertain.

    • Kekanu

      Co-sign!!!!!  Black people are not a monolith!!!!  We are allowed to have different viewpoints without having to call each other sellouts, Uncle Toms or “black puppets.” 

      Seeing Senator Obama question Condaleeza Rice during her confirmation hearing  is what progress looks like…. not all Black people worshiping at President Obama’s alter.

  • Albertak

    I believe in Karma; Tavis is getting a taste of  his own meds right now so he ought to just swallow it and move on. I cannot think of anyone more selfcentered.Tom Joyer hit the nail on the head is saying what should’ve been said about the two long before now. Enough already…

  • Bulliesonblast

    What am I missing here with this clarion call for Tom to issue an apology? I mean if it becomes say something to get our true feelings out, then apologize for what we meant to say, in my small concentric circle of life, dilutes our reality. I for one am sick of people wanting these faux apologies for real and purposeful intent. At what point does someone with courage say, it will be hypocritical for me to issues a fake apology because at that time and space I meant every word I said to the audience I said it to. I recall a scenario years back, when Informed this lady years back that I did not like this girl because she had slept with my thought he was my man, who ended up being a few ours young Lieuys man, but I digress. Any who, this lady came to me and said V. told me you said you did not like me. I was shocked especially since I asked her not to tell her. After picking my lips off the ground, I said to her, yes I did say that, I can’t apologize for saying it, because at the time I meant it. But going forward, I hope we black women can stop disliking each other for some no good man that neither one of us have. She and I became decent acquaintances after that. But I was not going to lie apololie for something I meant at that time and space in my life. So you want to force Tom to apoplolie or apologize for what, something he means. I don’t get it. Halperin meant what he said. His apololie was not sincere. I rather have them say, I meant it, but apologize so many had to hear it.

  • Genobrown

    I am sorry, but I must agree, the Tom Joyner post is utter nonsense. This is the biggest problem with us as black people. While I do not condone everything that comes out the mouths of West and Smiley, I must firmly disagree with Tom Joyner’s post. As a 28 year old black man, I do respect the commentary of these two men, who unlike many others blacks, actually critique the president when they feel he is wrong. How many times has our President spoken about the poor in this country? How often does he publicly address the issues of unemployment, mass incarceration, and the abysmal education system that plagues our youth?  I understand that President Obama is the Commander and Chief of the United States, rather than the savior of all black issues and problems. I just wish he would do a better job of speaking about the problems and concerns of people living in the “Dark Ally” next to “Main Street”, but yet miles away from Wall Street. Are Smiley and West totally right in their commentary, hell no! But I’d rather have them give honest criticism then become puppets to the tribal thought process that often plagues our black community, in particular Mr. Tom Joyner. .. Just my thoughts…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GNADHJUGHI5BH5O3KYIVXBLBEQ MadMax

      If there are any azzclowns out there, it’s West and his flunky Tavis. West and his faux intellectulaism and socio-babble, mixed with religious nonsense, has done more to harm the image of black intellectualism, than any man alive, and to the people who listen to him, and buy his vapid books, you need to speak up, and declare that “the emperor has no clothes.” The diminishing popularity of these two fruitcakes, comes at a time when Fake News and their reich-wing allies, needs to find an assailable flank in the black community, to promote their “buyer’s remorse” narrative. Gingrich and Bachmann are pretending to tell blacks that President Obama has done nothing for them, but in actuality, they are telling whites, that blacks voted for him because they thought he was going to give them something for nothiong, and more specifically, take something from whites, to give to people who are contributing little or nothing to the economy. Newt called Obama the “food stamps President.” How bellittling is that, to people who can’t afford to feed their families?

      • Anonymous

        @MadMax: Sir you’re big on insults, but you’re neither smart, nor funny. Who would bother to read your comments through, when you exhibit such vile, fractured thoughts.

  • Anonymous

    Aside from the request (demand?) for an apology, I agree with Dr. Boyce on this issue. To be fair, I read Tom Joyner’s entire article/blog on Black America Web before posting any comments here. Reading Joyner’s opinions firsthand actually made him look worse than Dr. Joyce presented him here. Joyner’s anger at Halperin is palpable, but he fell back to the old crutch of attacking his own rather than holding the actual culprit responsible. Do any of us actually believe that Halperin knows who Tavis Smiley and Cornel West are? And, assuming Halperin is aware of who they are, are we to believe their criticisms of President Obama created such a permissive environment for hate that Halperin knew he had indirect permission to call the POTUS names? We have to do better.

    No matter the level of disagreement between the Joyner-Sharpton and Smiley-West camps, their bickering over the various forms of airwaves does nothing to help black people. It reads like a bad reality show script where one of them will soon be voted off the island or kicked out of the house. What a shame.

    As a black man, can I criticize or evaluate the performance of President Obama without being called a sellout? Are we all expected to march to the same silent drum, culminating to an organized march to the voting booth to usher in a second term? President Obama is a politician. The time for deifying him for having brown skin has passed. We all know this. Accountability. That is the bottom line. No matter what your opinion of President Obama’s performance, please hold him accountable. Define that accountability by your own terms, but do not give him a pass for looking like us. Bottom line – he is a politician, not a savior.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GNADHJUGHI5BH5O3KYIVXBLBEQ MadMax

      The same people who critisize President Obama are the same ones who stayed home and let the Republicans return to power.

      • Ronniesaunders

        madMax: Show me your evidentiary proof to support your above statement.

        • Satyrdean

          Elecricity is supposedly made up of electrons and neutrons; show me one of them.  We believe in wind and sound, have you seen either of them?  How does something as homely as a caterpillar, transform itself into something as beautiful as a butterfly?  I know, I know, I’m nitpicking, but HELL

    • Kekanu

      Halperin definitely knows who Tavis Smiley and Dr. West are, but their criticism did not create an environment that made his comment permissible.  While I find Dr. West’s “black puppet/real black man” comments the total antithesis of someone who professes to be about upliftment or empowerment, it had nothing to do with Halperin’s insult to the Office of the POTUS.

      As citizens of the great country, I think it is our job to hold any President (Obama included) accountable to the promises he made while running for the office.  Treating Obama any different is a slap in the face to our continued struggle for equality.  The knee-jerk reaction that many of us have to attack anyone who criticize the president does not help him or our communities, it continues the divide and supports the false belief that we want/need disparate treatment.  Besides, Obama does not need (or likely want) our protection.  Support Obama, but do not “believe” in him.

    • Ronniesaunders

      JAVAO719: Silence is just another form of oppression. Too many people and heads of state were silent during the 1930’s, 1940’s when genocide was being committed in Germany, Poland and Russia by the pathological racist in the name of Adolf Hitler.

      We have far too many serious issues facing Black America to remain silent about the performances of Barack Obama as President and the Congress of the United States, particularly the Congressional Black Caucus.
      I agree with most of your points and I agree with all the points raised by Sahkka Zulu relative to above subject.
      I don’t think we have had an accountable Black leader since brother MLK left us in 1968 other than Louis Farrahkan, but we can later have that debate.
      Your are one hundred per cent correct in saying that Obama is nothing but an unadulterated politician, not a savior. If you believe in the story of Christianity, we only had one savior and his name  is Jesus Christ.
      Our so-called Black leaders of today have given Obama a free pass without that in-depth critique that is vitally needed of his policies.
      Our good President can speak to the needs of gays and lesbians without it being considered a mistake. It was not a mistake to speak to the special interests/needs of the automobile industry. Our good President spoke to the special needs of the corrupt Wall Street bankers. But when it comes to the needs of Afro-Americans, we are supposed to  wait for progress to trickle down to and upon us. Yes Obama is the President of all America but all America my good brother includes BLACK America.

      The sad thing about his nomination of Elana Kagan to the United States Supreme Court is he didn’t even consider a Black woman or Black male  Make no mistake about it Kagan represents the powerful interest of the Educational-Industrial Complex..
      That’s why I  and other intelligent  criticial free thinking Afro-Americans call Obama a puppet of the the plutocrats who only serves at the behest of the ruling White elite.
       The Obama Presidency is nothing but a BLACK Front for the powerful white interest who are really the movers and shakers behind this White House.

      • Jrwalker68

        You truly believe that the white establishment is on the same team as Obama. Why are they preaching to Take Their Country Back. Are you serious?

        • Ronniesaunders

          Jrwalker68: The people who are shouting to take their country back are the poor whites and middle class whites who don’t have any real power anyway other than the color of their white skin priviledge.
           The 1 percenters who owned 90% of the stocks and bonds in this country and 40% of the real wealth could care less about who the hell the President is or isn’t because their interest will be served.
          There Supreme Court has been hijacked by the Vatican, the country is  being invaded from South of the border and Slick Willie Signed NAFTA for Bush I that took mucho good paying American jobs overseas. Joe & Suzie Sixpack can’t comprehend the class warfare that is being promoted by the rich and powerful ruling elites who reside on Wall Street and in the halls of academia.
           You damn right this is beyond serious.
          Obama is a tool of the white establishment who’s interest will always be served regardless of party affiliation or who’s in the Oval Office. If you rock that boat you will pay a terrible price. The jury is still out on the JFK murder, but JFK rocked the boat big time. Who did JFK piss off? Who did what to whom?
          Obama ain’t for you or me brother. And he damn sure ain’t for all those debased Joe& Suzie SixPacks who like to cling their religion and guns.
          Thank You Junior Walker & The All Stars.. what a great band.

      • Satyrdean

        And, that’s why they supposedly crucified Christ.  The Jews of that time had been expecting the Messiah to be a Savior (in the form of a Great Warrior) who would defeat the Romans (their slavemasters).  However, Christ came advocating/promoting Forgiveness, and Love Ye One Another (even your enemies).  You know HE had to go.  But it explains how a lot of Blacks have/had placed the same expectations on President Obama. He is not the Great Warrior, the Savior.  He is a human being, who has–in 2 short years, against a mountain of opposition–tried to “Change” some situations/circumstances for the better.  And, it has been Divine Intervention that placed him in that position, and who sustains him in that position; not willpower.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

    The type of radio that Tom Joyner and Michael Baisden partake in, is the most gutter form of black exploitation with coonery and buffoonery done daily on these programs..Tom Joyner is a damn fool who has allowed himself, along with all these new found blacks like Sharpton and Roland Martin, who have gained celebrity status since this black family has been occupying the WH selling out black folks real cheap…Joyner has done some good things with the HBCU scholarship funds, but he has been doing real damage on his program to blacks, with his mis-information and not allowing any criticism of this WH…Why has he joined the fray to damage Tavis and Cornell? What the Hell has Obama done for him except used black media for free, not paying a dime for advertising in our media, while paying big money to main stream white outlets, don’t take my word for it, look it up yourselves…I have stopped listening to Joyner and Baisden for years and nothing they have to say is of importance to me…I would advise Tavis and Cornell to keep doing what they’re doing, keep the constructive criticism going and ignore these nay sayers who are interested in distorting your message while covering for this African American President and all his wrong doings…

    • Tamtam05

      If Black people knew the issues they would understand the criticism but because we are an uninformed people and brainwashed we accept anyone presented to us. We as a people are to quick to jump on the “Black” bandwagon not knowing what the “REAL” issues are. We are programmed. We are no longer enslaved physically but we sure are enslaved mentally!

    • Kekanu

      While Pres. Obama is not above criticism, Dr. West’s tactics (ad-hominem attacks) were abhorrent.  It is really strange that Smiley/West’s criticisms began after Mr. Obama declined to attend Smiley’s event and West did not get tickets to the inauguration.  I do not listen to Tom Joyner either and I totally agree with you on Sharpton, Roland Martin and would add Michael Eric Dyson.  Joyner’s comment was disgusting and a bit hypercritical since he is profiting from “the struggle” as well.

    • Aaron

      I DID ADMIRE YOU BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GOING AGAINST THE PRESIDENT, KNOWING THE PRIMARY GOAL OF THE REPUBLICANS IS TO IMPEDE ANY PROGRESS, YOU’RE LIKE THE REST OF THE GENTILES!!!yes Obama is one of those elite blacks who talk a good game to get where he’s at, and will do nothing for the average joe…

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

        I don’t give a damn about any party except if i’m throwing one and doing the inviting…You people keep playing this political game where one term ii’s republican and  if things dont go my way, then i’ll switch to the democratic ticket because their fortune seem to be on the rise, while doing the same damn things I was doing when I was republican…All these people are one and the same, and don’t give a damn about anyone but themselves…It does not matter who’s in the WH, the policies are dictated by corporations, so you’ll can runt o the ballot boxes, you will get the same damn results every time…Put some of these corporations out of business, and we’ll be talking business, the power is in our purses and not in the ballot…Imagine if we as individuals would withdraw all our money from say Citibank and put it into credit unions what the hell would happen…These people know the fickle nature of the american public and will play you like a banjo every damn time…We always had the power, we just don’t use it…

        • Ronniesaunders

          Thank you for trying to enlighten these many misguided Negroes.
          Power To The People!

    • Bea

      So much talk and no action, criticism will get you nowhere. What are you doing to make your community better? Talk about that…

    • Jacque

      Again, shut the hell up Shakka Zulu. Just quit.  I swear, you really must be an Angry White Male.  You sound so racist against Blacks.  You must live in a basement, with your laptop and no friends.  Get out an enjoy your life.  Life is what you make it.  No one is willing to stay down in the dumps with you.  Also, quit riding Tavis Smiley’s jock so hard.  Tavis sounds like a self-hating, jealous Uncle Tom and so do you. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

        I have a job, my own medical practice what do you have? Sitting on your ass watching the first African American President gut the black community, dividing us along none issue while he does absolutely nothing for his biggest supporters, black people…He could not even put one of our most qualified sister or brother on the Supreme Court openings, he played up to the Latino and Jews, now this court is 1/3 Jewish (Bater-Ginsburg, Kagen, Breyer) when these people are less than 10% of the total US population, with the rest of the court, 2/3 (Soto-Mayer, Scallia, Thomas, Alito, Roberts, Kennedy) are catholics when this country is predominantly baptist…You will see an over-turn of all the civil rights gained in the past fifty years, gone within the next 2-5 years, thanks to the first african american president with no slave blood, but plenty of slave owners blood in his veins, time to start counting the number of bubbles in that bar of soap…Sounds like you might be the one needing a jock or a man to ride you, punk…Try playing “it’s raining men” they should come running…LOL…

        • Goldie G

          I don’t think you have a job

        • 1now

          If you have a medical practice you don’t have a job, you have a career. By the way the American Medical Association is one of the most powerful lobbying groups in D.C. so you benefit from the very process you rant about. Another little tid bit, Barack Obama is the first President to openly admit his African Heritage. I’ve read a few books over the years and there is documentation that there have been Presidents with African blood in their ancestory. Technically since we are the Original Man, all Men have African blood flowing through their veins.

        • Anonymous

          Wow! You bashed Latinos, Jews, and Catholics in one fell swoop. Gotta’ give it to you, you know just what buttons to push.

          I’m off this…too much anger and vitriol, too little knowledge about legislation that HAS been passed that IS beneficial to middle-class and working poor, and lots of “assumptions” and “opinions”–which you are entitled to–even if they’re not based on facts.

          Peace!

      • Ronniesaunders

        Jacque: Have you read everything about brother Malcolm X or Frantz Fanon?
         Read all of their works and you might reach another conclusion about Shakka Zulu. Tell me good brother why does the truth hurt so damn much?

    • Goldie G

      Do you have a contract on with Boyce….calm down. We can agree to disagree. Sounds like you are sitting on a chair feeling miserable about your life. Go out and start something in your neighborhood for our people.

    • Annlrob

      Well put.  I couldn’t have said it better myself.  I started listening to TJMS a couple of years ago to see what all the hype was about. Now I have to change the station to get rid of the daily buffoonery.  Tavis Smiley, on the other hand, always has something intellegent and worthwhile to say.  I agree with your assessment on Obama.  I for one would have preferred Hillary Clinton. 

    • 1now

      Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KU6P4XPUIDTGSV52Z3QFCXNFPU Claudia

    I am so sadden that many of our black men who is held high in honor has to stoop very low in  destroying another black man in order to get their point across and be heard by the media. We as a rejected race of people by so many other races in the world should really be more tolerance and respectful towards each other. Yes, we all can be disgreeable towards many issues of each other but we must not allow our anger and our self ego becloud our own minds to the point that we ourselves are acting in a unprofessional and sensely manner. Black people must also learn from each other and not be so judgemental and quick to point the fingers at one another, but take criticism as wisdom as move on.

    • Kekanu

      Agreed.  How can there be any progress when the focus is on these men and not the issues that affect our communities?  We should expect more from those who claim to be about the upliftment of the poor and disenfranchised. 

    • Tamtam05

      Very well said. I think more forums like this would help. We need to discuss politics more in our communities and get more young people involved. Just thinking about what Black people did during the civil rights movement banded together for change, the path they made for all of us, make me understand that my generation has done nothing to pass on to the next generation. Yes, education is needed, but we also must be more informed when it comes to politics, within and outside this country because it’s a lot of things happening around the world the directly affect us and most don’t even understand that or even care.

  • bluemirror

    Gentlemen, please stop giving into the Willie Lynch mentality! “Back in the day, ” the old folks used to say – “Child, money don’t make you smart.” If you have dirty laundry, we would all appreciate it if you would air it out behind closed doors instead of out in public where it DOES NOT belong. My goodness – where is your dignity?

    • Linda M. Ross

      This is such a shame. All of you are FOOLS!!!!!
      LINDA ROSS, SHELBY, NC

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shantrell-Bertiece/100000429802781 Shantrell Bertiece

      Sorry bluemirror but the majority of black people lost their  dignity  a long time ago when they refuse to acknowledge themselves, their history and education

      • Eagertolearndifferentsides

        Why can’t we all get along and try to understand each side? Be man and woman enough to talk to each other personally before we talk about each other publically

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5IOGHXWFRAB3CV77RYIYFMGII Clinton_Hill_Cutie

        Actually Shantrell, there was a time when we did acknowledge ourselves and our history… but that go lost in the heroin and crack epidemics.

  • Tamtam05

    You are right on the money! I thought at one time that Tavis was attacking the president because of jealousy, because he was receiving all the limelight and the president took away his attention. Today, I have a change of heart, for more reasons than one. I am not happy with the presidents policies or actions. I did expect more from him, maybe too much. From the way he sold out on Healthcare Reform, continuing the Bush tax cuts, the financial Reform Bill. His foriegn policies are most troubling, especially towards the Israel/Palestine issue and the NATO’s attack on Liyba. Black people just see the prez being Black and then president. Most don’t know the issues. It’s ok to disagree with the president, but most Black people see it as an attack on the prez. Well keep attacking me because if the election was today, I would not vote for him. He’s being punk’d by the press because he’s acting like a punk. Know the issues and you will see what I’m talking about. If you don’t know the issues that’s affecting this country and only concerned with a Black president, then you are WILLIE LYNCHED!

  • Lilly White

    “I expect more from Tom Joyner.”  WHY?  He’s a disc jockey.  That is his claim to fame, that is primarily how we know him.  We don’t know him as an intellectual, an activist/organizer, but as a radio DJ (who probably doesn’t even spin his own records).   I think Dr. Watkins gave too much “ink” to this, but I guess he had to be thorough.

  • Mahoganyone

    I have heard Dr. West speak as well as Tavis Smiley. Both appear to be very pompous men who crave attention. Any attention. I give absolutely no credence to either of them. It appears that Obama is being held to a different standard than any other President in the history of this country. Tavis and West remind me of the crabs in the barrel syndrome.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GNADHJUGHI5BH5O3KYIVXBLBEQ MadMax

    I agree that the “assault” on Tavis Smiley and Cornell West by Tom Joyner, was well-deserved, and should serve as a warning to all who sat silently during the previous administration, aggrandizing and promoting themselves on the backs of black misery, and to somehow believe that a black POTUS can repair all of the ills of the black community in three short years. While the POTUS is not above criticism, and should be held accountable for bad policies, President Obama has been under constant attack since he won the Democratic nomination. To be attacked by people who once claimed to support you, only lends credence to the “buyer’s remorse” narrative currently being spread by Republicans and their teabagger allies. Smiley and West have an opportunity to squash this rising tide of animosity, by stating publicly and emphatically, that they don’t agree with some of President Obama’s policies and progress in the black community, but make no mistake about it, they support him in his bid for re-election, and they will continue to be a voice for the voiceless, end of story.

  • Tamtam05

    If Black people knew the issues they would understand the criticism but because we are an uninformed people and brainwashed we accept anyone presented to us. We as a people are to quick to jump on the “Black” bandwagon not knowing what the “REAL” issues are. We are programmed. We are no longer enslaved physically but we sure are enslaved mentally!

    • Autochthon

      Back in the 50’s and 60’s and even the 70’s black people knew what the deal was. It was rare to see any blacks on tv in any movie. You knew your true position in the hierarchy of world power. You knew you were on the bottom and had to work twice as hard to get anywhere. Now, a few blacks are ALLOWED to advance to high positions and ALLOWED to make a lot of money; but the masses are worse off than ever.

      • Biznesschic

        Don’t see this in my neighborhood.  Most of us are hard working individuals, who are productive, educating children with values, and making our future a lot better.  Turn off cops, and get to know some real black people, Please!

  • Chmislink

    I agree with the tone of Tom’S comments , West and Smiley’s tirade against the President
    are over the top and far too Black folk focused. there are many issue that the President is attempting to introduce to congress that will greatley impact the welfare of poor folk (most Blacks are in this category) but he can not lable it as For Black People . It appears as though that is what West and smiley are looking for …sorry this is the way main stream
    politics goes. Get over it

  • Sonia

    I tend to agree with Tom, he doesn’t talk, he does the work. The scholarships that he generates annually is proof of his love for Black people. I think that Tavis and Cornell are self – serving Uncle Toms. I wrote Tavis exactly two years ago, asking him who he was working for, inferring the government. He keeps his cushy job and does not hold white folks to the same standard that he holds Obama. Obama is not perfect and does buck dance a bit, but folks should try to talk with him privately. Travis even more than Cornell seems insanely jealous of President Obama.

  • Zbtcseipai

    Informed criticism often helps the debate.  However, the people should realize that once you become President of any institution (business, government, or whatever), you become privy to information that the rest of the masses do not possess.  It is impossible to predict what forces are in play once you’ve arrived or how you will respond.  The scenario is not always as you see it.

  • Tartbond

    Dr. Boyce – Reading this article was a waste of my time.  Smiley and West are both worthless.  I am glad Tom Joyner spoke out and criticized them.  You talk about mass black incarceration.  Why!  Because black on black crime is so rampant in our community..I have lived in DC for over 30 years and the black on black crime is outrageous.  I wish Smiley and West and yourself would focus on issues that are destroying our community i.e. black on black crime, lack of prioriticzng education, drug and alchohol abuse, abuse of our black children, fatherlesss children. leave the President alone.  His plate is full dealing with the right wing extremists who main goal from the start of President obama’s term was to destroy him.  Hopefully you will improve the quality and content of your articles.

  • Anonymous

    Tavis Smiley and Cornel West are traitors and have no sympathy nor mercy for traitors and Dr, Boyce is a chameleon as he changes color to suit the environment of popular opinion, emotional empathy or personal objectives. Dr. Boyce motives and insight can’t be trusted to be called journalism let alone referring to himself as a black scholar.

    The title of his article gives him away to wit: Dr. Boyce: Tom Joyner’s “Tasteless” Assault on Tavis Smiley and Cornel West.

    The word “”Tasteless” Assault” is what is tasteless and bias coming from a “journalist and a scholar” 

    If a judge began talking about you using those terms “Tasteless Assault” can you really get a fair trial by leaving it up to the people or readers to sort out, determine or intepret the facts or conversation without prejudice towards you or your intented subject matter?

    Tavis Smiley and Cornel West are traitors and here’s why……….

    I listened to Cornel West’s radio interview with sister Kathleen Wells and what I heard was a chitterlings circuit liberal arts rhetorical loser, coward, traitor and whiner.. Here’s why:

    Cornel West is a loser for grandstanding for Tavis Smiley. He is a coward because he sat at the same table breaking bread with Minister Louis Farrakhan and never opened his mouth about what the honorable minister had to say about someone like him that chose what he chose.

    He is a whiner because during his radio interview he recommended to the radio host with authority as to what President Obama “should do” and “should be” doing while Cornel West does nothing but perpetrate and grandstand.

    He spoke with authority saying “What President Obama should do” in spite of the fact that Cornel West was very visible on the scene long before Obama hit the radar and even then Black America was fighting for survival, parity, justice and equality.

    If Cornel West knows today what Obama should do, why didn’t Cornel West apply his Religion and African American Studies degree to correct the conditions on the ground before Obama became president of The United States of America?

    It is because Cornel West and Tavis Smiley are cowards and President Obama is not a coward like them.

    President Obama arrived on the front-lines, accessed the conditions on the ground, accepted the challenge, knew the risk and knew the price he would pay in any attempt to correct the conditions on the ground. Barack Obama decided that the price was worth the risk.

    President Obama made his peace knowing that cowards die many deaths, the brave only one.

    Cornel West and Tavis Smiley don’t possess the courage of Obama to reconcile their mind with that type of courage therefore all they can do or all they will ever do is whine, conference and say with authority what someone else “should be doing.” FORGET ABOUT IT!

    Like the cowards of Rosewood, Cornel West and Tavis Smiley hide and grandstand behind rhetorical philosophical BS and contrived conferences. Meanwhile the weak, poor, uneducated, disabled and elderly men, women and children are being corporately gouged, economically raped and systematically eliminated.

    Tavis Smiley wait and watch in the shadows with drooling anticipation and excitement as Cornel West does radio interviews profiteering, protesting and professing with prophetic overtures about what’s going to happen to President Obama when the tea party reaches its climatic pitch or when us weak, poor, helpless, uneducated black people wake up.

    Cornel West says with morbid excitement in his voice that if Obama can’t displace the emerging negative energy arising from the tea party posse that President Obama is going to be left hanging in the wind.

    It never dawned on those two cowards to use their chitterlings circuit liberal arts rhetoric and philosophical BS degrees to rally and deputize black America as the army to the rescue coming to defend Obama against the anti-Obama sentiment emanating from the tea party posse.

    Instead of rallying black America to defend against the rising anti-Obama sentiment the treacherous coward via his radio interview is calling for black Americans to bring even more pressure to bear against President Obama.

    Consider this:
    Cornel West is a black man with an African American Studies degree in the era of a 21st century sitting black president and when given the choice to choose which president exemplifies to him the epitome of what represents his black American ideals he selects Lyndon Baines Johnson’s fanny to kiss.

    On my block that’s called treason and his radio interview pretty much evidences that Cornel West is a chitterlings circuit liberal arts rhetorical loser, coward, whiner and traitor.

    Cornel West’s view from Rosewood that black Americans view President Obama, as a symbolized black-faced gesture is an example of what a useless degree in African American Studies will do for you

    President Obama is not a symbolic president. President Obama has real power and he has the final say.

    President Obama is a viable and highly intelligent person. He has read Undercover Smart and he uses his presidential powers without reservation, supervision or permission.

    For dessert President Obama won the noble peace prize without even trying.

    Cornel West as Director of African American Studies at Princeton University on the other hand is under constant watch, monitoring and scrutiny by strict European supervision. Cornel West has no real power or authority and for dessert he serves as a lackey for Tavis Smiley.

    Cornel West’s African American Studies Degree, position and title at Princeton are as worthless and useless to black American interest as he is especially when integrated with real time applications and scenarios.

    In an address given in Toledo, Ohio by the honorable Louis Farrakhan here is what the honorable minister said more or less about anyone that would pursue such a degree.

    “Black people go to college and get a degree in African American Studies, What is that? It is a degree you will never use. You put the letters BS behind it and then you add PHD behind that and now you have a useless degree that is piled high and deep in BS.”
    Minister Louis Farrakhan
    Toledo, Ohio

    The Minister was correct in his assessment because Cornel West’s African American Studies degree does not recognize that being “prophetic” is clearly defined as “the foretelling or predictions of things to come.”

    When radio host sister Kathleen Wells used the word “prophetic” to describe and clarify her statement, Cornel West along with his useless African American Studies degree demonstrated his worthlessness by admonishing her with an ignorant and incoherent correction.

    She outsmarted Cornel West by readily accepting his layman explication of the word for the sake of not competing with his ego, false sense of security and fake accomplishments.

    Sister Kathleen Wells cut him short, out maneuvered him, out smarted him, and moved him right along.

    My name is Enoch Mubarak. I implore Cornel West and Tavis Smiley to stop perpetrating with worthless degrees, positions, titles and foundations.

    Stop waiting for the president to fall and please, Cornel West by “any means necessary” stop grandstanding for Tavis Smiley.

    Cornel West has a degree in religion but is not smart enough to jump ship on Tavis Smiley especially when the Nation of Islam refused to endorse THE COVENANT WITH BLACK AMERICA for lack of having any spiritual worth.

    When the black churches were being burned to the ground, 30 black preachers went running, screaming and crying to the Attorney General for protection but where was Cornel West with his degree in religion?

    As always he and Tavis Smiley are hiding in the forest of Rosewood while Cornel West professes to sister Kathleen Wells how President Barack Obama needs to visit the black church and be saved.

    The sun has set on you treason-ist backbiting cowards. ENOCH HAS RISEN!

    Sincerely, Enoch Mubarak
    President/CEO Mubarak Inter-prizes
    http://www.mubarakinter-prizes.com

    • Biznesschic

      Best post I have ever read.  Thank you.

  • http://twitter.com/Kanuri Janet

    So I guess Professor West essentially calling President Obama an Uncle Tom and Mr Smiley questioning the president’s “Blackness” because he didn’t attend his “wittle” Black forum is appropriate. West & Smiley started with the name calling and racial attacks a long time ago. They’re merely reaping what they sowed.  As for Professor Boyce, it’s ok to choose sides. It is quite apparent he has been on Team Smiley & West for a minute..but he lost credibility with me at how he came at Professor Melissa Perry a couple of months ago on paper and on the radio.  His vitriol for those who support or defend the president is noticeable but honestly I don’t see the difference in rhetoric between he, West & Smiley..Sure they TRY to wrap their words in L.O.V.E. as Tavis would say, but when one look, read & listen a bit closer, I can still hear their dog whistles just as loudly as some of the more extreme voices on the right.

    • Tdhughley

      I totally agree with you.  Smiley, West and Boyce should use their considerable intelligence to teach black people to do more for themselves rather than wait on other people to provide for them.  We will never be free until we control our destiny.

      • VAGO

        Very well put. As a race we should not, and cannot, wait for others to do for us what we should each take the initiative to do for ourselves. Once we each step up to the plate, we can surely chip away at the disadvantages levied at us through institutional racism. It will not happen in one fell swoop ( I’m not naive) and will take time & effort from all.
        Also, I have been a fan of Tom Joyner my entire life and will continue to be a fan. I was also a fan of Tavis Smiley & Cornel West until their attacks on President Obama took on a personal tone. I agree that civilized discourse cam take place, however, I don’t see where Tom Joyner needs to issue an apology to anyone.

        • Brook

          We as a race need to start evaluating our politicians on policies and not skin color.  Give me evidence that says that life for black people is better under Obama – I’m sure you can’t. 

          • http://twitter.com/Kanuri Janet

            Black people lives would be better if WE would stop the madness and bullsh!t! How about we start rebuilding our families and not have an astronomical percentage of out of wedlock births…or as some of us like to say..”baby mamas or baby daddies”…How about we focus on making sure our children’s education is a priority instead of approving of the fact that they know the most current lil Wayne or Beyonce song and can do the latest dance at the family gathering. What would impress me is if that child stood up before the family and recited MLK, Douglass or DuBois! How about Black folk stop committing community terrorism against one another. How about the Black man take his rightful place as the head of our community and start speaking out against the mistreatment of his woman and children..or the Black woman support the Black man and ensure that she will always have his back. If we stop all of this…then only will we begin to see an improvement in our lives no matter who resides in the White House! *Throwing mic down*

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Clark/1779034686 Joe Clark

            that’s what i’m talking about!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Clark/1779034686 Joe Clark

            that’s what i’m talking about!

          • http://twitter.com/WellDamn24 WellDamn24

            I agree with everything you said, but disagreeing with Obama’s politics isn’t terms for being a sell out.  I don’t blame Obama but the complete political system for messing up this country.  And I certainly don’t look towards Democrats for any kind of leadership.

            The question that Brook is asking above about Black folks is the question that EVERYONE is asking from politicians. I think its an honest question.

            And I think that Obama has done more than enough to be able to respond credibly.  But some folks are so busy riding Obama’s jock and spitting at the critics that they won’t let them man put them down his way.

          • Joan

            You comments do not apply to the total black community.  Grow up!!

          • PHDEEDQUE

            Janet…tell it like it is.

          • charles

            Janet
            I totally agree with you I am working on my PhD and majority of the people at my Colloquim in Atlanta were either white or black
            female educators, we as a people need to refer back to the 60’s and 70’s where we as black people were proud of our race and moved more toward being self sufficient and not relieing on the system or someone to give us a hand out our kids have the highest rate of killings as well as the highest rate of having kids out of weblock. Our so called leaders should be trying to discourage those things rather than trying to destroy each other’s credibility.

          • Swan Angela

            having children out of wedlock doesn’t change that the value of our men has gone down since the beginning of society. we need to look at who benefits from our internal problems. stop reacting and being dismissive of how this stuff really started. I am a lesbian radical and i may not agree with all of what these men say, however i do not think this feud will make or break them. Most of y’all arent looking at the numbers white men and women are the ones who have the most children out of “wedlock”. And we also know this is another way of devaluing the woman in general. Whats worse is our women are participating in this bs. Reverting back to some fallacy of paternal stability is not going to help our communities. No singular strategy will make a black life easier except for holding everyone accountable including ourselves.  thank you for throwing the mic down because everyone doesn’t believe in your ideology.

          • A_storm_is_rising

            I was with you until you said the black man’s rightful place is the head of the black community. Women hold up half the sky. Period. The only way our community is going to begin to prosper is by us working together. Not one under the boot heal of another due to SEX. Leaders come in all shapes, sizes and genders. And in the end it is time for ALL black people to start taking care of our communities. For loving our communities. 

          • 1now

            Black Women may be holding up half the sky but you may have noticed the sky is falling. So they should share the blame for the parts of the sky that are falling. When the conversation is about the failures of the Black community the lead in is usually about the failures of Black Men. Black Women should step front and center when the conversation goes bad as quickly as they leap to the front when talking about how much they contribute to our families and communities.” I’m just sayin”

          • JC

            @1now, I agree & have been saying some of the same for years. Black women share the blame of family,community & cultural breakdowns too. Black women make just as many BAD decisions or practice BAD behavior as black men (too many sex partners,not enough edu.,overspending on crap, too many babies daddies,etc.). THE DIFFERENCE IS when black women falls/fails it is felt worst, because in many cases/families she has everyones back (especially black men) for the most part —- who has hers????  AND let’s be honest before we got to this point—-black women HAD to take the helm/head of the household,SHE did not ask for the job & neither was SHE voted in. Black women were LEFT with the household & had to carry on. COSBY is correct we ARE looking at the failure of parents—it is where a lot of our issues start (the family).

          • Rellis929

            Janet, I was going to click “like” but I’m writing “LOVE” instead!! Thank you for speaking the bottom line truth. Our Black people are much too easily distracted!!!

          • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

            it’s always amazing to me when there is a laundry list of what black people should be doing, I’d like to know what are the people who are admonishing ‘doing’ to change those stats? and I wonder if those same people have ever sacrificed anything for the black nation as a whole or are they following the predominant societies’ idea about individual prosperity at the exclusion of group upliftment. I also wonder how many black people supported activists & organizations that seek the betterment of the collective or  are they just giving lip service? There are plenty of activists from the 60’s who were targeted by co-intelpro & sacrificed their lives  and freedom for all of us—and some have been caged for close to 40 yrs–how many of us pay homage to them or even remember their names? President Obama is a capitalist shill. Nothing he has shown since his ‘selection’ to the white people’s house says that he gives a damn about the extended black community. This stupid loyalty to ‘black leaders’ even when they’ve proven themselves to be vested in other than YOUR best interests–Obama-like pretty much every other US president-doesn’t give a damn about the avg black man or woman–I wouldn’t give them a pass and I’m not giving him one either-negro or not. This is why there are so many despots running african countries–we need to hold our leaders responsible for doing what they are supposed to be doing-and not worrying about whether ‘the white people’ are watching and critiquing.

          • KOAL BLAK

            You are so right on.  history reveals that past empires, that were built on greed, expoitation and imorality all perished.  They, just as this country were built on a flawed foundation. when a house is built on a flawed foundation, the doors start to sag and will not open and close, the walls crack , and the floors buckle.  You can patch the cracks, plane the doors to open and close, and jack up the floors.  but we all know that,  what needs to be done is to tear down that house, rip out the old flawed foundation and start over with a solid square foundation.   This house is caving in on it self.    

          • Jamillah

            Give me evidence where it was better under any other administration.  It seems to me that Tavis and Cornel want President Obama to say what he is doing specifically for Black people.  When have they put that pressure on any other president?  Cornell has been around for a long time.  What has he done specifically for Black people, besides pontificating on talk shows and panel discussions?  If he were speaking on behalf of the average Black person, he would speak in a less lofty language that everyone could understand without having a Funk and Wagnalls readily available to discern what the heck he is talking about.  Unemployment is a state and local issue.  Also, unfortunately, a great many of our people do not want to work.  Take it from someone who worked in welfare reform for over a decade.  I once followed Tavis, bought his books, and watched his PBS show, which by the way became a big bore that rarely dealt with Black issues.  However, from the time that Obama declared his candidacy, he began to act like  a child who had all his mother’s attention until the new baby came along.

          • mikeajeff

            Dr. West questioned the President’s “blackness.” If I recall, the University that Dr. West teaches from is predominately white! Sista Souljah lit his backside on fire during a panel (debate/race issus). Cornell West stated, “as blacks, sometimes we have to accept what the democrats give us.” Again, she lit his Ass up! Today he’s complaining about this President not doing enough. This is how Tom knows that West is a fraud. Boyce knows what these two clowns are up to. Tavis played on Hilary’s team and he lost. Roland Martin played on “Team Obama” and Rev. Al remained neutral. How could Tavis contend that Bill Clinton was the first black POTUS? Clinton did more damage to the black community than any of the presidents before him.

            Btw, Tom donates a lot of money from his “white sponsors” to worthy causes in black community. Boyce is only giving half truths on this matter. I would like to point out that he (Dr. Watkins) has “white sponsors” as well.

            Great comment on your part!

          • Brook

            if Barack got more black votes than every other president, he is expected to do more than every other president.  He hasn’t done more.  Comparing him to other presidents means he doesn’t deserve more support than the rest of them.  I’m not voting for him or anybody else because black unemployment will keep going up no matter which cracker is in the white house. 

          • A_storm_is_rising

            Make sure not to complain about what happens when you choose not to vote.

          • NOGOV

            As long as THEY take MY MONEY (TAXES)I will say what the @#%# I want  about these BANDITS!!!!!!!!!!! 56 yrs old and will never vote in a national election, YALL that vote for these CRIMINALS who make the laws that kick US in @&& should SHUT the @#%# UP!

          • Zela

            Your vocabulary or lack thereof says it all!

          • hmbellamy

            YOU JUST CAN’T ARGUE WITH STUPID – PEOPLE DIED FOR THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND THEREFORE IF YOU’RE NOT YOU SHOULD ACCEPT WHATEVER OUTCOME THERE IS!

          • Zela

            I mistakenly clicked liked…so sorry.  I can’t even respond to levels of ignorance in this statement.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_73CIKYA25XJQN4I3WN5CX6JTCU LEROY A

            Question, Obama wants amnesty for 20 to 30 million illegals, will this help or hurt black people with unemplyoment at 16%?

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5MJQO7RNSK3JEH3436CTT6NL7Q Verna L

            Well Jamillah, if these knowledgeable people really wanted to know what President Obama has done on behalf of Black people, they would visit the White House Web site.  The press is not going to report anything that is positive for Black people. AND West, Smiley, and Watkins are not going to leave their Ivory Towers to enter any Black community where there are issues to do anything.  They might get some dirt on their hands.

          • Dcollins

            You imbecile!  His healthcare plan “would have” provided free check-ups for life.  Race hustler!

          • Wmleken

            I strongly disagre. The Obama administration’s leadership and much better management of governmental agencies, saving auto industry jobs, improving watch dog levels of activity and many other actions improve the lives of Black and other citizens.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_73CIKYA25XJQN4I3WN5CX6JTCU LEROY A

            You have got to be kidding, Obama is paid for by the unions thats why his management is so terrible.

          • Gesimpson7

            Read my post…

          • ZELA

            When was life bette for Black people under any administration?  If you follow politics, the few years “we” had it alright…were ancillary to the process. No one made Black America a priority.  We don’t count because we don’t vote our interest….just like church, we vote our feelings.  Obama is doing as well as any 1st Black President could do…come on people….THINK!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Clark/1779034686 Joe Clark

          like chuck D said every brother ain’t a brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • daredevil I

          I agree with you Vago, no apology is needed!!!

        • Gportis2008

          I hate to jump on the bandwagon and be repetitvie in my message but I also agree with VAGO and daredevil 1…no apology needed from Mr. Tom Joyner

      • Brook

        So, you’re ignorant enough to think that Tom’s calling Tavis gay and a sellout is intelligent discourse?  Grow the hell up! 

      • Jhop1104

        I agree with you. I’m sorry but I have long stopped listening to Smiley and West. To me they have become enablers. Obama or no other president can make us stop having kids out of wedlock, no one makes us rob, rape and murder each other, no one makes us drop out of school, no one makes us not prepare ourselves for the job market, or act as though we should get paid as though we own the business, instead of working our way up. I love my people, but we have to start looking in the mirror. No one is going to give us anything, we have to get out there and go for it. Smiley and West make excuses for us instead of telling it like it is. Is there racism in this country of course there is, but many who complain aren’t even in the game, they are simply making excuses!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Clark/1779034686 Joe Clark

          look closer jhop.

        • Keanu10a

          We, as a people, have to learn to stick together. We are the only ethnic group that has suffered the way we do and are still in the land of our oppressors but can’t remember how we’ve suffered and overcome so much. There is a lot of work to do and we must start by taking human life and education seriously.
          We must never forget what our ancestors did for us. I have lost so much respect for both Smiley and West that I don’t even want to hear them speak anymore. They add to our “divided house”
          Barack Obama is the president not Jesus, we have to do for ourselves and fight when others try to stop us. No more Crabs in a Barrel. This is the 21st century!

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/MLJGULZ6ACYR2STFHCVLG2QC2U michael

            this is nonsense, we can stick together but that not mean we have to just follow like blind lemmings . you need to reread this line

            when people can’t debate the facts, they avoid the issues and simply try to discredit you

          • Zela

            The issue is protocol and rights to debate.  We’ve lost all adhesive as a race…the enemy has suceeded in dividing us and we were willing participants…now he’ll go in for the kill.  Don’t you see it all over America?  Look on the corners, in the social services offices, beauty salons, malls, I know you see the same things i do and it makes me sad, embarrassed and mad.

          • Ilrodger_ec

            I agree with your post regarding the need to “stick together”.  History has shown us how when one person stray away and start making negative comments about the President, others follow.  Our President was not elected to office to save black people as many of us seemed to think.  He was elected to help everyone get a leg up.  I find it repulsive to listen to all the jargon that black leaders are stepping out and saying about President Obama.  We know for ourselves that it was not Black Americans who single handly put him in office, but a collections of people who believed that he could make a difference.  Our President came into office with an enormous economical burden.  He is constantly working to insure that all Americans have the opportunity to be employed and to be able to take care of their families.  Instead of sitting around and complaining about him, take action yourself to make the necesary changes to better provide for your family.  I sincerely hope that Black America remembers what it was like not being able to vote and so many of our race are still not on the voting rolls.  Please be careful with your words and understand that there are so many blacks that are against their own people.  I am truly baffled by our Black leaders and perhaps they are perplexed themselves.

            Rodgers in NC

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Clark/1779034686 Joe Clark

        how can they when no one listens!

      • Brook

        Don’t we pay taxes too?  Black people are the only ones stupid enough to think that they can’t ask for support from their government.  White people do it all the time. 

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5IOGHXWFRAB3CV77RYIYFMGII Clinton_Hill_Cutie

          Every group asks for support from the government. But the difference lies in what that group does when the government doesn’t provide the support. If whites don’t get what they want, that elected official loses his/her job. When blacks don’t get what they want, the elected official stays in his position for 30 years. See the difference!

    • Akahart

      Yes, Janet..Whole heartedly agree with you..My post above, echoes your sentiments..it’s just jealousy, plain and simple.. Our Ancestors and our people deserve better than this

      • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

        U r right, we do deserve better but my problem is if you seriously think ur going to get better under a system that has always seen us as lesser than, property and born only to serve and exploit at will–if you can genuinely say that you expect to get anything but more of the same from the system as it exists now, then I feel for you. Seriously.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Clark/1779034686 Joe Clark

      are we any better.now that we have a black president.not at all.

      • Chocobear

        Looking at Obama’s policies we can see he is no different than Bill Clinton, except he is more willing to use the military. Also, he has not done much for education, which is shameful, made more so by his having that child from South Carolina who wrote him onstage when he won the presidency. She complained about the lack of materials – books, etc., – and he vowed change. Not seeing it yet.

        Also, he could have let the banks fail and given those billions to the people affected by the massive fraud, i.e., homeowners and people who lost retirement funds.

        To quote Ralph Nader, “The question is whether President Obama will be a n Uncle Sam for the people or an Uncle Tom for the corporations.” I say the jury is still out, but Joe Clark is certainly right. In fact, are poor white people better off now that we have black president? Middle class folks of all stripes? Not at all.

        • Rbabyboo

          How sad our president does not get the respect like the other former presidents. They are called President this or President that whether they are dead or alive. President Obama did do something for education, he gave stimulus money for education. The problem is most of the Republicans governors refused to take it and if you do your research you will find out many teachers in those states have lost jobs and funds have been lost to many school districts causing our kids to suffer. President Obama has done a lot of things for this country that has not been mentioned

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_73CIKYA25XJQN4I3WN5CX6JTCU LEROY A

            Obama got the nobel peace prize for doing nothing how much respect does he need. Obama raised the most money of any presidential candidate in history. Stop feeling sorry for someone who has no connection with black people other than the color of his skin.

          • Sfg1969

            PRESIDENT Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize because of what he did for the entire world – he gave us hope in a country that lost its way under GWB. Suck on it, Leroy A; you dont know what the heck you are talking about.

          • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

            How’s that Hope working out for ya? I don’t know about you but hope don’t pay my bills nor fill my belly. and hope has to have concrete, concerted effort behind it to translate it into RESuLTS realized. What hope has Obama translated into anything concrete and tangible for the black collective or even the avg working class man or woman in america? And I don’t mean that whole feel good rhetoric bs. He bamboozled those of us who wanted to believe that he was who he presented himself to be. No harm in admitting now that we were scammed. He’s about as much for changing the status quo as I am likely to vote for Rush Limbaugh for prez.

        • Anonymous

          I’d just like to mention that the “media” does not report many of the things that have been accomplished by this president. But the information’s out here, if you look for it. Try going to WhiteHouse.Gov where it’s updated regularly. I think you’d find that he’s doing quite a lot to help the working poor and middle class. Why do you think many of his initial wealthy donors are no longer supporting him. Could it be because he’s go after tax havens in other countries? Making them pay up what they owe? That information too is on public record…and can easily be found.

          As to the issue of education–among other things–the President has 1.) repeatedly increased funding for student financial aid, and at the same time cut the banks completely out of the process; 2.) completely reformed the student loan program to make it possible for students to refinance at lower rate; 3.) Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he invested heavily in elementary, secondary and post-secondary education. This includes a major expansion of broadband availability in K12 schools nationwide, as well as an expansion in school construction; 4.) Prevented for-profit schools, i.e. Kaplan or University of Phoenix from preying on students. These “businesses” can no longer have access to student loan unless they can show high rates of job placement for graduates and other established criterion.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5IOGHXWFRAB3CV77RYIYFMGII Clinton_Hill_Cutie

          We have to be very careful when criticizing Obama for national policy vs local policy because Obama can’t change local policy. Obama has influence over the military and the economy.  But that young lady not receiving proper education materials is a deficiency of local politics. If you want better schools, that is the responsibility of your Mayor and City Council.

    • Anonymous

      Smiley, West and Boyce have been consistent advocates for the Black community understanding that accountability transcends race, color and politics.  They recognize that silence is a form of oppression and that all of us, including those in the present administration must recognize & act on the concerns of the Black community.  Racism is persistent within the present administration just as it was in the former administration.  We can neither ignore or excuse it regardless of who is in power.  Visit http://www.coalition4change.org/ and view the Coalition For Change,Inc. (C4C) video on Racism In The Federal Sector (A-Z).

      • Jamillah

        Why isn’t anyone shouting out loud about the racist attacks against our president.  No other president has been blatantly disrespected as this one.  Where are people working in our communities teaching self-respect and self-help.  We as Black people can’t expect the oppressor to stop oppressing.  The Black community needs to take some responsibility in cleaning up their neighborhoods.  There is much that can be done without asking for things from the government.

        • Brook

          I’ve seen Dr. Boyce defend Obama when he was attacked, so he is consistent.  But I’ve worked on Capitol Hill and the conversation now is about how black people are so dumb that they will vote for Barack no matter what he does.  We need to grow up and stop loving him like he’s a god damn rock star and start evaluating his policies instead. 

          • berdell Fleming

            can You get an Amen!!

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_73CIKYA25XJQN4I3WN5CX6JTCU LEROY A

            Thank you, black people are labeled as Obama zombies because no matter what does they think all blacks will vote for him. Obama thinks that also thats why he is willing to give the hispanics anything they want, and not worry about black people until election time. Wakeup.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AXTGB6WWK6ZCMYSKZQS34ZMEIY BigBlackRod

            Tell y’all what: DON’T vote for Obama. Send a message. Watch who pays…PEACE.

          • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

            Are we not paying anyway? Wake up, people, the powers that be have played an Al Jolson on you-they have simply put a black face on corporatism (fascism)–Obama wouldn’t have gotten anywhere near 1600 pennsylvania if he was really concerned with the masses-black or white–it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out-and that goes for anyone who is in a position of power-if they are in that position they have been vetted and proven their allegiances and you can bet it ain’t to the avg joe schmoe living in this country. read Michelle Alexander’s ‘the new jim crow’–and know that this govt has declared war on black people i particular, but the masses in general–there is no democracy here & for black people there never was. It’s an illusion. the time for sleep is over-only the incredibly naive, stupid and oblivious don’t see how this govt has become openly fascist-if you havent been paying attention-and don’t let that negro in the whitehouse distract you to what’s really going on–then you need to tear yourself away from american idol and dancing with the stars at some point. You think shit was funky 50 yrs ago–try nazi germany on for size. Think I’m over-reacting, research subjects like directed
            energy weapons, organized gang stalking, Mk-ultra, Co-intelpro (which NEVER stopped), remote neural monitoring, e.l.f., u.l.f., gloria naylor’s novel 1996. What we have now in existence in this country is something worst than Orwell ever could have imagined.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5IOGHXWFRAB3CV77RYIYFMGII Clinton_Hill_Cutie

            At the end of the day, the nation will vote for the least bad candidate no matter who it is – democrat or republican.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AXTGB6WWK6ZCMYSKZQS34ZMEIY BigBlackRod

            Tell y’all what: DON’T vote for Obama. Send a message. Watch who pays…PEACE.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5IOGHXWFRAB3CV77RYIYFMGII Clinton_Hill_Cutie

            This has been the attitude with not only politicians but businessmen as well. The black community is the laughing stock of the powerful and influential. All you have to do is say the word “Jobs” and blacks will support you no matter what.

        • Anonymous

          A number of organizations have been established within the Black community to address the oppression we as Black people face. The Coalition For Change, Inc.(C4C) is one in particular. Visit the website to see how this organization is making a difference to expose injustice and to support those bold enough to practice self-help. http://www.coalition4change.org/ Also visit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqyDPh3OHpk

        • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

          As long as the govt takes taxes from me (and I wont even get into the fact that for at least a century of jim crow we were taxed as 1st class citizens but treated as 3rd class–how much is that worth?)—then I have a right and expectation of a certain return on my ‘investment’, but lets face it, black people as a collective are like parishoners at most churches-always faithfully giving to the collection plate each sunday but when we need something from the ‘chuch’, we likely are going to be sorely disappointed. And another thing-our neighborhoods are occupied areas under constant assault not only from outside forces but from within-no different from the palestinians in gaza–we live under the same type of apartheid system-it’s just so ubiquitous and systemic we don’t even notice it anymore.

      • nospin

        “Smiley, West and Boyce have been consistent advocates for the Black community”

        What exactly have they done for the black community?

        • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

          and i can ask the same of obama? he even has the ‘don’t bother with black folk til election time and then visit the proverbial black chuch service to ‘show’ solidarity dance down pat–watch what I tell you. that negro has basically run from black orgs and black reps-unless they kiss his narrow ass–like the good rev. al (who curiously seems to have taken over ol jesse’s lapdog duties)–but come election time, watch him show up at some historically black churches or maybe a kwanzaa celebration–like the person above who said he’s worked on capital hill–these politicians have black peoples’ #–apparently the world over–appeal to our sense of mis-guided race loyalty and pride–results be damned–add a little outside overt racism from the usual suspects– old white dudes, preferrably repubs, have them continually slip the mask or ‘hood’ off & make brazen racist attacks/slurs and even if blacks as a whole don’t really like the target of the attack or are ambivalent about them, they will instinctively rally in his/her favor against the perceived outside community attacks on one of ‘our own’–this seems to work perfectly each time as  most of us circle the proverbial racial wagons w/o taking an objective look at the FACTS & policies of said negro. It’s simple to me: is my quality of life a modicum better than it was prior to Obama & is he making a valiant, measureable effort to CHANGE the systemic structures in place or is he in effect, playing gatekeeper. It doesn’t take a damn rocket scientist to figure that one out. He has, pretty much without fail, sought to continue the empire’s business as usual. Continuing where Bush left off. I don’t know about you but that ain’t no damn change I can believe in. it’s more of the same ol bulls**t. Just a different color bull this time. I,  for one, aint fooled. I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to stop living in fear of the unkown when the known is so detrimental to your life.  We need to stop picking the lesser of 2 evils–b/c best believe the dems serve the same corporate masters as the repubs,they just hide their depravity a lil better-just a little–there is coming on the horizon a fundamental change in this country–I believe the powers that be are leaving the common man/woman very little choice–they have proven, specially with the human rights abuses under the Patriot Act-that they are enemies of the people–& tho Thomas Jefferson was a pedophile slave owner, he did have some on point ideas about repesentational govt–he indicated that the tree of liberty needs to be nourished by the blood of patriots and tyrants from time to time. It’s obvious that IF there ever really existed such a tree in this country, and as a black person, obviously I’d be able to challenge that assertion–then if at no other time than I can think of since probably slavery–it needs to be watered now. The US govt is a wholly illegitimate, criminal enterprise that has declared war on not just select foreign govts but on citizens right here. It is a relentless, amoral war without justification or merit; yet the untold millions who suffer through no fault of their own continue to be assaulted–financially, physically, spiritually & psychically–an all out assault on our souls–Empires tend to do that. When various groups asserted through out the black experience here in america that we were ‘in the belly of the beast’, they didn’t know how prophetic they were. I believe for the continued existence of humanity, this beast needs to be collectively fought on all fronts and destroyed. Not reformed. Not reasoned with for there can never be reason found with psychotic sociopaths. We are talking Hitler-like evil 10 times over. No hyperbole needed. If you know history you know I tell no lie. Black people you better wake up to the fact (and black man you in particular) have been in the symbolic and literal crosshairs of this country since we 1st landed on these shores–don’t be fooled by Obama’s presence in the white house–all it means is that this empire has adapted & changed strategy and will utilize any tool at it’s disposal to maintain it’s power–as long as that ‘tool’ has shown themselves to be totally prostrate at the altar of empire. Apparently Obama has done that.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5IOGHXWFRAB3CV77RYIYFMGII Clinton_Hill_Cutie

            “he even has the ‘don’t bother with black folk til election time and
            then visit the proverbial black chuch service to ‘show’ solidarity dance
            down pat”

            ^^^Of course Obama learned that… Its been the democratic party hustle since the beginning of time.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5IOGHXWFRAB3CV77RYIYFMGII Clinton_Hill_Cutie

            “he even has the ‘don’t bother with black folk til election time and
            then visit the proverbial black chuch service to ‘show’ solidarity dance
            down pat”

            ^^^Of course Obama learned that… Its been the democratic party hustle since the beginning of time.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5MJQO7RNSK3JEH3436CTT6NL7Q Verna L

        AND what major things have the three (Smiley, West and Boyce) done to show for their so-called advocacy? Did they make demands of the Bush administration and corporate America. It is always easy to be an armchair quarterback and say what should be done. Is he President Obama of the United States or just President for Black people.  Did his role change  during the hours of sleep after the Inauguration? If the President were able to ignore the House, Senate, and the Supreme Court and dedicate all of his energies and the US coffers to Black people, they still would be complaining.  How pathetic because there is such a lack of understanding.  But whatever Massas Bush, Reagan, Bush and Clinton did was just fine for the slaves on the plantation.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7ONMGPITX2AX7HEXKFV56TZOU JellyBean

      I could not have said it better, Janet, as well as others who agree with Janet. Great comments. Tavis and Professor West are the great Obama haters. I am glad that Tom Joyner called this two out. I mean it is sad that we are doing this, but Tavis and West have to called on this kind of crap.

    • jbrown

      Thanks for taking the time to write such a timely reply.  I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.

    • mikeajeff

      Janet, I was tuned out after Boyce said, “In fact, even Smiley’s critique has grown more diplomatic and thoughtful through time”

      Through time? Tom is spot on with his comments. I love the Hon. Louis Farrakhan and agree with him on the issues in Libya. But, the Minister asked the POTUS-“Who do you think you are?!”
      Don’t you know Limbaugh ate that up! It’s posted on you-tube. Limbaugh agreed with the Minister? Yeah, right!

      I don’t know why Boyce thinks that calling this President a “Black mascot for the wall-street oligarchs and a cheerleader for the plutocrats” is any different than flat out saying, “he acted like a Richard!”

      Btw, Mrs. Perry ate his butt up on Rev. Al’s show (keeping it real). She told Boyce:
      A. DODT- There are black men and women in the Armed Forces who are part of the LGBT community.
      B. Lilly Ledbetter Act- There are Black women in the workplace.
      C. Pell Grants more HBCU beneit from this program than any other institution in the country.
      D…..well, I haven’t heard from him since.

      Boyce complains about the President not appointing a Black SC Justice. If he knew better, Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsburg will NOT allow this President to leave office, thus giving a repub. President an opportunity to appoint a right-wing Justice. My guess- Chief Justice of the Georgia Supreme court (Retired) Leah Ward-Sears!

      This is why Tom has become so angry @ people like Tavis, West and soon to be, Boyce. They know what they’re doing.

    • Brook

      Why don’t you quote Tavis and Cornel directly instead of paraphrasing?  You fucked up your whole argument right there. 

  • Dalan

    Crabs in a barrel

  • Marlon Timms

    An Apology,. have you lost your educated mind ?? Tavis and Cornel are big time bigots among black people, it seems like all you people that think you know everything actually no nothing what the real black people are experiencing.Tavis and Cornel are so full of them selves they actually hate us,. they only have a few followers and both wish they were where the president is,I feel Tom 

    • Eldon Pittman

      Tavis is a fake from his heart; however, Dr West is a consumate thinker and his tctic is to actually make Obama better!

      • Dcollins

        Wrong!  Any time someone “appoints” themselves as a your leader, run!

      • Anonymous

        Perhaps you should spend some time investigating West’s motives and it’s not to make Obama better. He’s affiliated with Jane Hamsher, Cindy Sheehan, and others who plan on primarying the President, siphoning off support to a third-party candidate. An act that will definitely put a Republican in office. Don’t take my word for it google the bus tours scheduled to make the rounds in black communities under the theme: Barack Obama is not your friend. Go the Reid Report and read the article about “Firebaggers and Afros,” or something like that. West’s campaign against Obama started LONG before the election.

        When has a third-party candidate ever won a presidential primary? And who is going to be hurt by this the most? ‘Cuz you haven’t been paying attention if you haven’t noticed the slash-and-burn tactics the Tea Party and Republicans have been engaged in over the past year or so? You think it’s bad now…just wait…and watch what they do if they get back in office. They’re just getting warmed up now…

        And I read somewhere that West is NOT a Democrat; he’s a Libertarian. (Haven’t verified that yet but it would explain a lot.)

    • Ronniesaunders

      Did you read what Shakka Zulu said about your boy Tom Joiner? Brother Zulu told the truth about Tom.

      • Ronniesaunders

        Marlon Timms: Did you read what Shakka Zulu said about your boy Tommy Joyner? Brother Zulu told the truth about Tommy Joyner.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

      You’re talking like an emotional fool, sounding more like a woman who’s baby daddy said he’s was cutting the child support payments in half…Look at the policies being talked about and forget the personality issues…These people are playing on the emotions of black people because some of us are still caught up on having the first African American President, and are not looking at his public policies and how it affects us…This WH has not spent any money with the black media, that’s a fact…Black media is so damn happy about having this black smiling face that whenever the white media is giving him hell, he would call into Al Sharpton, Warren Ballentine, Michael Baisden, Tom Joyner, Joe Madison, etc and get free airtime to spill his BS, meanwhile when he goes on mainstream white networks they pay for airtime…This is the reason why one of the last black publication is no longer black owned, Ebony was sold to Time, Inc and is only 50% black owned because of lack of advertising dollars…Ebony gave this Prez lots of free advertising in their publication when he was running for office, did he reciprocate by giving them add money? Hell no, he put it all into Wall Street Journal, Washington Post and all the usual white media…I’m sure if Cornell and Tavis were interested in running for public office they would have thrown their hats into the ring, Cornell was a teacher of Obama and regardless of how he might have acted over not getting tickets to the inauguration, he deserved to be given a thank you and should have been give a damn ticket for taking off from his teaching assignment to make 65 campaign stops for Obama…Since most black people like being treated as the mistress instead of the wife and will settle for being visited undercover of darkness and given their quickie, keep tricking yourselves out to these pimps…If you’re going to do trix, at least you should be able to pick your own johns and turn down who’s not appealing, it can’t always be about the money…

      • Tamtam05

        I love it! PREACH!!!

      • Jrwalker68

        Wow!! So many of us are still caugt up with what so many marched, got beat, and killed for. The opportunity to have an African American president. Forgive me and us all for that. Policies you are complaining about. He has addressed in two years the almost collapse of the US economy, don’t ask don’t tell, rejuvinated the respect America has abroad, killed the most wanted and hunted terrorist, established a health care for all, making rich white people pay taxes by taking away all of their loopholes, emphasizing education and making parents and schools be accountable for their childrens education,  enspired an older generation to go back and get their education and lead by example, has brought the respect for the black family for the world to see, let the world see that an educated black man can hold a powerful position and be respected, all this while fighting and getting no support from the top 1% of the population who want you to believe that they must take their country back. Well if they do take it back let’s see what they will do for black people then.
        Oh thats right the Trickle Down Theory. Let’s just see how far it will trickle.

        • Chocobear

          Jrwalker you are right, but he’s made egregious errors and is not above being criticized. My biggest problem was him getting the architects of the economic collapse – Geitner, etc., –  those who wanted to get rid of regulation, to run the economy. He ignored people like Paul Krugman. My second biggest problem is that he has doubled down in Afghanistan, hasn’t really ended anything in Iraq and is using Predator Drones all over the place. He places way too much emphasis on military antics.

           Also, much of what you say is symbolic, and that is something we have to outgrow. If someone thinks lowly of the black family and the ability of black folks to handle high office or show intelligence, then he or she is committed to racist perceptions.

          He’s too down with the corporations. He embraces them at every turn. He knuckles under at every turn.

          The economic problems of our nation stem from 2 wars and the tax cuts for the rich. He has barely touched those. As for the 1% that wants to take the country back – they already have it and Obama has offered nary a challenge.

          • Anonymous

            You may want to examine what was obtained in return for agreeing to extend the Bush tax cuts, which by the way also includes tax cuts for the middle class. Interesting facts that people somehow forget to mention…Yes, he compromised but he made sure the unemployed continued to receive benefits–which the Republicans had no problem with eliminating. Funny, how I don’t hear much anger being directed at them… Guess it doesn’t fit the narrative.

            “The White House and the Republicans are pretty close to a final deal
            on the Bush tax cuts. Here are the specifics, though it’s worth saying
            that as near as this is to completion, it’s still not done, and so it
            could change….”

            1) The Bush tax cuts get extended for two years — with one ugly surprise:
            For the next two years, estates up to $5,000,000 will be protected from
            the estate tax, and the tax rate for the few estates that are taxed
            will be 35 percent. That’s worse than the 2009 estate tax ($3.5 million
            exemption, 45 percent rate), though better than this year’s “no estate
            tax at all.” The difference in expected revenue between the 2009 levels
            and the compromise levels is $10 billion or so.

            2) The refundable tax credits are extended: The
            Earned Income Tax Credit, the Child Tax Credit and the American
            Opportunity Tax Credit were all pumped up in the stimulus, but set to
            expire this year. All of them will be extended. Price tag? $40 billion
            or so.

            3) Unemployment insurance gets extended for 13 months:
            Most observers — myself included — thought the federal boost to
            unemployment insurance (which allowed jobless workers in states with
            high levels of unemployment to collect insurance for up to 99 weeks)
            would lapse. At best, there’d be another two- or three-month extension.
            In perhaps the most important part of the deal, there’s going to be a
            13-month extension at a cost of $56 billion.

            4) A 2 percent cut in the payroll taxes paid by employees:
            This is perhaps the most unexpected part of the compromise. Rather than
            extending the administration’s Making Work Pay tax credit for two
            years, which would’ve been worth about $60 billion a year, they’ve
            agreed to a one-year cut in the payroll taxes paid by employees,
            which’ll raise $120 billion in 2011. That’s a much stronger boost over
            the next year, and of course these tax cuts have a tendency to get
            extended …

            5) Business expensing: Remember back in September, when the White House announced a proposal
            to give businesses two years in which they could deduct 100 percent of
            the cost of new investments? That’s in the deal, too. The cost of this
            is a bit complicated — it’s $30 billion over 10 years, but it works by
            offering huge tax cuts in the next two years and then paying that back
            over the next eight. So we’re basically trying to shift business
            investment forward to 2011 and 2012. Over those two years, the tax
            breaks should be around $200 billion, though because it’s a shift rather
            than a cut, it will have less than $200 billion in impact.

            “So is this a good deal? It’s a lot better than I would’ve told you
            the White House was going to get if you’d asked me a week ago. There’s
            some new stimulus in the form of the payroll-tax cut and the expensing
            proposals. The older stimulus programs that are getting extended —
            notably the unemployment insurance and the tax credits — probably
            would’ve expired outside of this deal. The tax cuts for income over
            $250,000 are a bad way to spend $100 billion or so, and the estate tax
            deal is really noxious.”

            (This article can be found at Ezra Klein’s site.)
             

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

          What the hell has he done for the millions of home owners who are now carrying their belongings in shopping carts? The countless companies closed their doors, took the bailout money and took their azzes overseas to exploit the Mexicans, Indians, or Chinese? You call bailing out Wall Street to the tune of over 3 trillion dollars, and these people took this money gave themselves bonuses, bought out other banks as was done by the top four (Wells Fargo, BOFA, CItiBank, Chase Bank), let the healthcare insurance, and pharmaceutical industry write the damn healthcare bill to benefit themselves rather than the citizens, I should know since i’m a physician and have two sons also in the medical field who tried to work with this administration to setup the bill to benefit us taxpayers…GM and Chrysler took their money closed all the plants in Detroit, Ohio and other mid-west cities and went overseas…If he was such a damn genius with all those cut-throats Jews advising him, the first thing he should have done was put a clause about them staying put and helping out the workers…People whoa re unemployed through no fault of their own and wanting to work out something with their lenders are finding themselves homeless with banks willing to let these houses sit empty rather that have you in it, paying whatever you can to keep the property value up and vandalism from happening to empty properties around the country…Most schools, police, fires and municipal workers who depend on property taxes for over fifty percent of their budget to survive are going bankrupt as a result of these empty properties and banks greed…

          The unions compromised and most of the workers in these factories have given up benefits and are working for paychecks with no benefits and could be fired at will…What respect for Americans abroad? When was the last time you left the boarders of the US to got to someplace other than Mexico? As someone who’s on or of plane flying from Europe to Asia to Africa, I see we DON’T have any respect and are subject to be kidnapped or killed for even mentioning you’re American…These extra judicial killings he has been doing, dropping drones air strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Libya and parts unknown killing innocent men, women and children is not progress or anything to be proud of…Sending in hired killers to kill the most wanted person and dumping his body at sea (something I seriously doubted happened) without bringing him before a court of laws to be tried is barbaric, Obama’s a constitutional attorney and should have known better, or is it because it did not happen as this Hollywood scripted  movie played itself out before the bought and paid for american media?

          Going back to school to prepare yourselves to do what? I see all these fly by night schools cropping up, making a profit teaching nonesense just making the corporations rich and putting you in more debt that will follow you and negatively impact your credit, they have even good to far as to send out lave enforcement to arrest you if you can’t pay your student loans…If you’re not going into the healthcare, legal or engineering fields i see it’s a waste of time to keep going back to schools paying these seven figure salaries of professors and presidents of these institutions…

          Obama is CEO for the corporation called USA, Inc who’s responsibility is to report to his shareholders, the heads and titans of multinational corporations, expanding their wealth, that is why his black ass is in Libya trying to steal the oil from the Libyans and get a move on Africa with the military arm of AFRICOM, NATO and Israel the only white nation in Africa, as his police force…Don’t get it twisted, Obama could give a damn about any African on the continent, he is doing the bidding of multi-national corporations that is what ALL wars are about…There are more mercenaries on the ground that soldiers fighting these so called wars…These people are redrawing the global maps of economy to benefit the top European nations; England, France, Germany, Italy and America and Canada rounding out the rare, they are tyring to get a jump ahead of Russia, China and India who’re the only countries with surplus money…You need to study the real foreign policy this country operates on/under and not this make believe personality driven bullshit being pushed by unsofisticated negroes….

          • Alice

            Surely your wealth of knowledge did not miraculously appear under this President!  So the question becomes where was all of this vitriol under the other presidents and when did you tell Bush about taking his “white ass” over to those countries in question and starting those wars that this president is now faced with ending?  Self-hatred and the Willie Lynch syndrome is so alive in America and especially among so-called black people that it makes one wonder who all of you are truly working for!  If you are such a sophisticated negro, what have you done except take the name of a great African leader who allowed himself to be tricked by the trinkets of those whites who eventually destroyed his great empire?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

            As someone who served in the military, I was railing against this gov’t and her policies against black people and our treatment in these dis-united states from Ronald Reagen to present, so don’t get it twist that i’m picking on this president…If he’s doing something bad that will negatively affect black people, then he will be called out by me…You people believe in personality politics and don’t look at the policies of this person and how it negatively affect us…Try your willie lynch BS on someone else who might not know any better…

          • 1now

            Oh man. I thought you were ok until you mentioned you served in the military. You who served in the military talks about people being pimped and Black people liking being the Mistress instead of the wife. OMG.

          • Anonymous

            – To broaden access to affordable housing, the Act provides for $1 billion
            in increased funding for the Community Development Block Grant;

            — $4
            billion in increased public housing capital funds; $2 billion in
            payments to owners of project based rental assistance properties to keep
            them affordable;

            — $2 billion in Neighborhood Stabilization Funds to
            purchase and rehabilitate foreclosed homes;

            –and $1.5 billion in
            Homelessness Prevention Funds to keep people in their homes;

            — To strengthen workforce development, the Act provides $3.95 billion in
            increased workforce investment training
            dollars to keep our workers
            skilled and to employ young people during the summer;

            — To fight hunger, the Act includes a $20 billion increase for the
            Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program
            (SNAP), formerly known as Food
            Stamps, as well as funding for food banks and the Special Supplemental
            Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC);

            –The Act increases job training funds for those who need them most,
            with $3.95 billion in additional funding for the Workforce Investment
            system, which will support green job training, summer jobs for young
            people, and other opportunities;

            — The Act provides increased income support, including an increase of
            $25 per week for Unemployment Insurance recipients and incentives for
            states to expand unemployment insurance eligibility, as well as an extra
            $250 payment to Social Security and Supplemental Security Income
            beneficiaries and new resources for the Temporary Assistance for Needy
            Families (TANF) program; — and, The Act provides tax breaks to working families through the Make
            Work Pay and Child Tax Credits. These changes will reduce the marriage
            penalty and provide a larger credit for families with three or more
            children.
            — He’s working to provide affordable, high-quality child care to working families.

            — He cracked down on companies that were previously denying sick time, pay, vacation and health insurance, and Social Security and Medicare tax payments through abuse of the employee classification of independent contractor.

            — He cut taxes 95% of working families., resulting in tax rates for average working families being the lowest since 1950.

            — He extended “discounted” COBRA health coverage for the unemployed from 9 months to 15 months and he’s extended unemployment benefits several times.

            — He
            oversaw funding of  the design of a new Smithsonian National Museum of
            African American History, which is scheduled to open on the National
            Mall in 2015.  (He protected the funding during the recent budget negotiations.)

            — He created the Making Home Affordable Home refinancing plan.

            — He oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush in eight years.

            — He oversaw investment in updated and improved manufacturing processes.

            — He signed the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act giving the Federal government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud in every corner of the financial system. It also created a bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission to investigate the financial fraud that led to the economic meltdown. 

            — The nation’s five largest mortgage firms may be forced to reduce loan
            balances for distressed homeowners as part of an agreement with state
            attorneys general and the Obama administration to settle claims of
            faulty mortgage practices.The proposal is part of a set of remedies banks would have to agree
            to in order to settle the state and federal probes launched last autumn,
            which found that the largest mortgage firms illegally seized the homes
            of at least dozens of borrowers and engaged in shoddy practices that
            short-changed troubled borrowers.

            Mortgage principal reductions would comprise part of a larger fine
            levied on Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Wells Fargo and
            Ally Financial. Penalties could reach $30 billion, officials said.

            — He signed the Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act, which was designed to protect consumer from unfair and deceptive credit card practices.

            — Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he saved at least 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors that would have otherwise been lost.

            — Provided funding to states and the Dept. of Homeland Security to save thousands of police/firefighter jobs from being cut.

            — He ordered 65 executives who took bailout money to cut their own pay until they paid back ALL  bailout money.

            — He pushed through and got passed Dodd-Frank, one of the largest and most comprehensive Wall Street reforms since the Great Depression.

            — He
            made it so that banks could no longer use YOUR money to invest in
            high-risk financial instruments that work against their own customers’
            interests.
             

            — He supported the concept of allowing stockholders to vote on executive compensation.

            — He wholly endorsed and supported the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act of 2009 that would close offshore tax avoidance loopholes.

            — He made a deal with Swiss banks that permits the US government to gain access to the records of criminals and tax evaders.

            — He established a Consumer Protection Financial Bureau designed to protect consumers from financial sector excesses.

            — He implemented an auto rescue plan, and saved as many as 1 million jobs. Many are of the opinion that he saved the ENTIRE auto industry, and even the economy of the entire Midwest. (Remember how much flak he got because the general consensus was to not help them and to let them go bankrupt!)

             

        • Wmleken

          BRAVO!!! Thanks for crystalizing where we, all, need to be.

        • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

          you said he has brought respect for the black family for all the world to see? well, when the world sees a black family united for BLACK unity 1st cuz charity begins at home or it should–when I see the world have respect for black leaders who aren’t merely shills for white continued imperialism and hegemony–when there isn’t a black prez of the US demanding that a TRUE leader of the people -Aristide-stay out of the western hemisphere & tries to bully S.A. prez jacuma into keeping him hostage in S.A—like Aristide is his slave or property–and when a black prez isn’t doing the usual suspect’s dirt by illegally and amorally bombing a sovereign african country–Libya–all b/c THAT leader won’t play the imperialist game and bow down and genuflect before them and the vultures that are IMF & World Bank! When someone who is really for the masses and isn’t interested in exploiting and oppressing others so he may personally gain—and he is able to govern in peace without the CIA running interferance if not outright mayhem and murder–then I’d be happy to support that kind of statesmen. And if you think cynically that that day won’t be coming anytime soon, then I’d ask you what are you really living for and what are your priorities and what type of world are you willing to settle for?

      • Ralph2x

        I’m in 1000% agreement; well said!

      • Joan

        Obama should have given West tickets. Did he show thanks for the work West contributed to his campaign?

        • Anonymous

          Thousands upon thousands of people knocked on doors, made calls, helped with voter registration. Somehow only West seems offended that he didn’t get tickets. Why is that?

      • 1now

        You don’t sound like a Shakka Zulu to me. Shakka was not just a warrior, he was a wise warrior. You just sound angry. I have read a number of your post and I believe you are intelligent and informed. Sometimes you raise valid points but your delivery can make a Brother wonder who peed in your kool-aid. It has been said that the man who knows most is the one who realizes he know nothing at all. Lighten up.

      • Anonymous

        While the President has used traditional media venues (as have all others before him), this is the same media which has instituted a virtual “blackout” of any progress he has made or attempts to make. And when he does appear on these shows what he says is twisted or parts of statements omitted to drive public opinion.

        The president gives weekly addresses from the White House via the Internet so that anyone with a computer can hear what he says and become informed about what he’s doing UNFILTERED. How very 21st Century…and a smart move on his part but people will always find something to criticize. BTW, is it part of his job description to shore up black media–or any media outlet for that matter?  Giving the advertisement money? For real, Shakka…If any business can’t figure out how to bring in revenue and/or isn’t capable of maintaining financial stability, should they be attempting to own and operate a business? But of course this too is Barack Obama’s fault…..And just for the record the media outlets you’ve mentioned are routinely denigrate and demonize him so it’s not like he’s getting anything out of it other than reaching a broader audience. Comprende?

        Oh yeah, you should get up on some knowledge because Desiree Rogers (remember her?) is now the CEO of Ebony and Jet magazine and is hard at work refining what made those magazines icons in the black community. Guess she won’t be “black enough” for some people though, right? And while we’re at it let’s be honest Ebony did give the POTUS lots of “free advertising”–in exchange for a jump in sales circulation. Where’s the problem?

        This statement puzzles me: “Cornel was a teacher of Obama…” Shakka, Obama is a scholar in his own right: gradated from Columbia University with his
        bachelor’s degree in 1983; worked as a community organizer from 1985 to 1988 before leaving Chicago to
        attend Harvard Law School in 1988. In 1992, Obama had finished his law degree at Harvard and was directing
        a statewide voter registration drive. His work there earned him a
        mention in the annual “40 under 40″ list published by

        Crain’s Chicago Business

        to recognize the city’s young leaders. Crain’s credited him and a staff
        of 10 with registering 150,000 new voters. Obama went on to join a Chicago law firm and finish his
        memoir

        Dreams From My Father,

        which was published in 1995. He was elected to the Illinois legislature in 1996, etc. etc. etc. (Oh, he also taught at the University of Chicago School of Law and has a Doctorate in International Relations.)

        So what was it again that Cornel “taught” Obama?

      • Anonymous

        While the President has used traditional media venues (as have all others before him), this is the same media which has instituted a virtual “blackout” of any progress he has made or attempts to make. And when he does appear on these shows what he says is twisted or parts of statements omitted to drive public opinion.

        The president gives weekly addresses from the White House via the Internet so that anyone with a computer can hear what he says and become informed about what he’s doing UNFILTERED. How very 21st Century…and a smart move on his part but people will always find something to criticize. BTW, is it part of his job description to shore up black media–or any media outlet for that matter?  Giving the advertisement money? For real, Shakka…If any business can’t figure out how to bring in revenue and/or isn’t capable of maintaining financial stability, should they be attempting to own and operate a business? But of course this too is Barack Obama’s fault…..And just for the record the media outlets you’ve mentioned are routinely denigrate and demonize him so it’s not like he’s getting anything out of it other than reaching a broader audience. Comprende?

        Oh yeah, you should get up on some knowledge because Desiree Rogers (remember her?) is now the CEO of Ebony and Jet magazine and is hard at work refining what made those magazines icons in the black community. Guess she won’t be “black enough” for some people though, right? And while we’re at it let’s be honest Ebony did give the POTUS lots of “free advertising”–in exchange for a jump in sales circulation. Where’s the problem?

        This statement puzzles me: “Cornel was a teacher of Obama…” Shakka, Obama is a scholar in his own right: gradated from Columbia University with his
        bachelor’s degree in 1983; worked as a community organizer from 1985 to 1988 before leaving Chicago to
        attend Harvard Law School in 1988. In 1992, Obama had finished his law degree at Harvard and was directing
        a statewide voter registration drive. His work there earned him a
        mention in the annual “40 under 40″ list published by

        Crain’s Chicago Business

        to recognize the city’s young leaders. Crain’s credited him and a staff
        of 10 with registering 150,000 new voters. Obama went on to join a Chicago law firm and finish his
        memoir

        Dreams From My Father,

        which was published in 1995. He was elected to the Illinois legislature in 1996, etc. etc. etc. (Oh, he also taught at the University of Chicago School of Law and has a Doctorate in International Relations.)

        So what was it again that Cornel “taught” Obama?

      • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

        Bravo! couldn’t said it better. the handwriting is all over the damn wall, but some people still don’t want to see it. they think of it as wallpaper when it’s really graffiti.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

      You’re talking like an emotional fool, sounding more like a woman who’s baby daddy said he’s was cutting the child support payments in half…Look at the policies being talked about and forget the personality issues…These people are playing on the emotions of black people because some of us are still caught up on having the first African American President, and are not looking at his public policies and how it affects us…This WH has not spent any money with the black media, that’s a fact…Black media is so damn happy about having this black smiling face that whenever the white media is giving him hell, he would call into Al Sharpton, Warren Ballentine, Michael Baisden, Tom Joyner, Joe Madison, etc and get free airtime to spill his BS, meanwhile when he goes on mainstream white networks they pay for airtime…This is the reason why one of the last black publication is no longer black owned, Ebony was sold to Time, Inc and is only 50% black owned because of lack of advertising dollars…Ebony gave this Prez lots of free advertising in their publication when he was running for office, did he reciprocate by giving them add money? Hell no, he put it all into Wall Street Journal, Washington Post and all the usual white media…I’m sure if Cornell and Tavis were interested in running for public office they would have thrown their hats into the ring, Cornell was a teacher of Obama and regardless of how he might have acted over not getting tickets to the inauguration, he deserved to be given a thank you and should have been give a damn ticket for taking off from his teaching assignment to make 65 campaign stops for Obama…Since most black people like being treated as the mistress instead of the wife and will settle for being visited undercover of darkness and given their quickie, keep tricking yourselves out to these pimps…If you’re going to do trix, at least you should be able to pick your own johns and turn down who’s not appealing, it can’t always be about the money…

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Clark/1779034686 Joe Clark

      WOW!

    • daredevil I

      That is so true Marion Thomas, respect was lost for Tavis and Cornel a long time ago,  i agree with  Tom all the way.

    • Rbabyboo

      I peeked Tavis a long time ago when he was on Tom Joyner’ s show talking that crazinrds about Mr. Obama before he became President Obama. Everytime Tavis would come on show he always would spread that poison hoping we couldn’t read for ourselves and just take his words as the gospel. During that time I lost respect for Tavis and stop buying his books. Why can’t we as a race work together for the better good. Yes its ok for us to agree to disagree but do we need kill each others reputation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nosugarcoatn Nosugarcoatn Ever

    I dont get why black people keep insisting that Obama is BLACK! HE IS NOT! He is Bi-RACIAL! HE was NOT BIRTHED from a BLACK WOMEN. What do you all NOT understand, he has a WHITE MOTHER…

    • Anonymous

      Idiot, don’t you know that 97% of blacks in this country are bi-racial.   Probably, including you.   Slavemasters raped so many of our black women that we all carry some degree of bi-racialism.   READ.

      • Ronniesaunders

        diannkirby: Where did you come up with that 97% figure? Show me your proof of what you say. I would like to know the source of your 97% information that you cite in the above comment.
         How do you know how many Black women were raped by the Slavemasters, poor station whites, or Native Americans in the Antebellum or post Antebellum period?
        The late former U.S. Senator Strom Thurmond (SC ) raped his 16 year old Black house servant back in the 1930’s and the DNA results comfirm that the old bastard Thurmond was her father.
         Its true that miscegenation was very widespread throughout the African Disaspora but we have to be very  careful about floating figures out without the supportive data to back up your claims.
        There is no such thing as race. Race is a modern day social construct designed to protect the interest of white supremacy world-wide.
        Every human being on the face of the earth is carrying some degree of Eve in their mitochondrial DNA, which all points back to Africa.
         We are all mutts..
        I thank you for your insightful and constructive comments diannkirby.

    • Anonymous

      Idiot, don’t you know that 97% of blacks in this country are bi-racial.   Probably, including you.   Slavemasters raped so many of our black women that we all carry some degree of bi-racialism.   READ.

  • Nikki

    I feel pain. Literal pain when I heard about what tacks smiley and cornel west said about our president. I understand their frustration but as far as I’m concerned, in this political climate dealing with tea party racists, people like Herman Cain, the GOP and the fact that this country is in serious trouble we have to have black men slamming the first black president. It accomplishes nothing but making racists like rush Limbaugh and the fox news network people giddy with delight. Does anyone remember what it was like when Bush was in office? Can’t people see that Obama is not a magician and is doing all he can? He’s not the president of black people, he’s the president of all people. Give me a break. West and smiley come off as petty, jealous and bitter. Tom Joyner was right and I’m glad that he said what he said. Obama 2012.

  • Satyrdean

    As has been mentioned, President Obama is not a majician; the U.S. Constitution has been so structured as to allow him to only legislate law, not make law.  In order for the latter to occur, both House of Congress must be involved.  And, as has been the case since he was elected POTUS, the opposite Party has nixed a majority of the laws that he has proposed.  Early on, there was a cry from the left that “I hope that all of his policies fail”; and, they have done their best to make that a reality.  Further, the POTUS has many national/international issues/concerns [i.e. wars, debt ceilings, etc] that he must address.  I’m reminded of when Harold Washington was elected Mayor of Chicago, many Blacks arrived at his doorstep demanding, “It’s our turn now”.  But as Les Brown so appropriately stated, “It’s better to be prepared for an opportunty, even when there is none, than to have an opportunity and not be prepared for it”  Mayor Washington was only able to provide business contracts to those Minorities who had business.  Likewise, employers will only hire people who have certain skills.  How many of the unemployed Blacks have invested the time to take advantage of the “free” programs that would have qualified them to become roofers, bricklayers, home remodelers, welders, machinge operaters/mechanics, butchers, bakerss, and candlestick makers?  Someone once wrote, “Many of the limitations we have, are those which we impose upon ourselves.  If we don’t commit crimes, we wouldn’t be the majority of those incarcerated.  We know the laws, why are we so lackidaisical about following them?  I am Black, an ex-offender, and recovering alcohol; however, with Divine Intervention/Inspiration I’m an Assoc. Clin. Director (who has been asked to assume the position of the Director) of a Community Mental Health Agency.  That is GOD’s doing, not mine. Rely on Him 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

      You must still be sipping on the sauce, because you sound like a damn drunk…It don’t have anything to do with any “devine inspiration”, it has to do with will power, when we all get tired of being tired, we’ll gut up off our asses and do what needs to to be done…One of the first thing as a recovering addict, you’re told to admit you have a problem and is seeking help…When you’ll keep making excuses for Obama and will not see things for what they are, but what you want them to be, you will not get cured…Obama pull a fast move on you’ll with his hope and change bullshit, he is doing the same damn thing as all of the other forty three before him did, look out for the corporations and to hell with the people…Obama will have a nice pension if he leave in one year or another five, we are the ones who will be eating out of trash cans…The first law of nature is self preservation, if you don’t want to look out for yourselves, then don’t expect anyone else to…That’s the problem with you’ll religious nut jobs, the white man made himself into the image of God, told you’ll to wait on the lord and to seek your reward in the hereafter, while he gets his here on earth…That should be telling you’ll that this heaven is where you make it and not some place you have to pay a fee by way of tithes and offerings to get into…Look at all you’ll preachers, they sure are getting their piece of heaven with their private jets, mansions and Bentleys, while your broke ass dumpster dive for your next meal…Pitiful…

      • Let My Poeple Go

        Um, Shaku Zuli is an ignorant ass.  All of the people on this post high fiving him while he continues to make racist comments (baby momma, drinking sauce).  I doubt he’s even black.  Lot’s of ignorant whites join black sites to voice their vitrol.  This fool is a true ass, stop agreeing with his brand of ignorance. 

        • Jrwalker68

          I think you are right because what he is saying makes absolutly no sense to a rational African American. We all know the struggles we have and will continue to go through to get to the top whether there is a black president or not. We all know who is in control of America and they are having a hard time dealing with a Black man telling them what they can and cannot do. You can see it in their faces when the camera moves around congress when he speaks. That in itself let’s me know just how much he has done for our people. When they announce his name as the POTUS they all must stand and respect him no matter how much it kills them. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

            Because there is something called rational thinking, something most black people lost as a result of their heavy indoctrination into religion and dependence on this majical character called Jesus…I will respect the office of the presidency when that office respect me and my ancestors…This country was created by deceitful means where only land owning white men had the right to vote and it’s still carried on today, this government is over 90% run by white men with the few token negroes who will sell their mamas to get a seat at the table…

          • Alice

            You are and , must be a white person trying to pass yourself off as black to vent your anger against the fact that this country has a president of the rightful color in office.  Slaves built the “white house” and now a black family resides there. Yes, it is clear to me now, you are white and making all of your own negative speak about black people, our beliefs and anything else you can throw in the pot to get out your hatred of your own self as well as us and to try and make us believe you are a black person.  Your ancestors indeed!  Which ones the  ‘Robbers” or the Barons”?  Take a hike and take your ignorance with you!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

            Yeah put one of the plantation children created by mixing black/white and elevating them above someone black? Yeah you’re the one who’s delusional to seek to glorify someone with no slave blood, but has the blood of slave holders…YOU are the one who seem to have issues and want to believe in popularity over policy…Slaves built the white house and the current occupant does not have any slave blood, his wife does but he has blood of slave holders, don’t get tit twisted, asshole…As for me, i’m black and have been black all my life, it’s not just something I put on…Because a black face is doing more damage to black people that a white man would be able to get away with, black folks are happy to be knifed in their backs by this black man, how damn stupid…He has shown he has no need for us, from the supreme court to his cabinet and you’ll are willing once again to be treated as the mistress rather than the wife…

          • Leta

            Come on Shakka can we really blame the president for what is happening to us as a black people?  He is only one man.  It does not matter who is in the white house black house mexican house and any other color you want to add in there, Our choices got us where we are at as a black people.  Yes there are those in society that put obstacles in our way to keep us from becoming successful but at the end of the day they can only do what we allow them to do.  Some say crack was introduced into the black neighbor hood but not everyone in the hood chose crack.  I dont agree with everything Obama does however I have much respect for him not because he is the first black or half black president but because he is a president that has a heart to bring about change in the lives of humanity as a whole.

          • Anonymous

            Oh please, despite being labeled “the black president” Bill Clinton wreaked pure, unadulterated havoc on black communities (criminal justice system, i.e. three strikes and death penalty for gang bangers–which by the way Obama  is attempting to undo).

            Look up Clinton’s historic “welfare reform”…then we can talk…or not.

          • Alice

            You are and , must be a white person trying to pass yourself off as black to vent your anger against the fact that this country has a president of the rightful color in office.  Slaves built the “white house” and now a black family resides there. Yes, it is clear to me now, you are white and making all of your own negative speak about black people, our beliefs and anything else you can throw in the pot to get out your hatred of your own self as well as us and to try and make us believe you are a black person.  Your ancestors indeed!  Which ones the  ‘Robbers” or the Barons”?  Take a hike and take your ignorance with you!

          • Kitty

            Zulu, you appear to be angry at others opinion in favor of our PRESIDENT. Yoy have your assessment of the POTUS, and we have ours. We can agree to disagree. But to attack ones beliefs is utterly ridiculous. You appear to be caught on the train of collison of hate and the past. Get a puppy-find something to love to take your mind off of the 400 years that seems to keep you trapped on the hate and blame train. Be your pilot of happiness and don’t sit around waiting for the President or anyone else to fly your course. You talk about your ancestors,but theirs not one had on the clock that we can reverse to rectify the situation so the healthiest thing to do is meditate on that which is good for the soul!

          • Anonymous

            Shakka, you’re extolling something but I wouldn’t go so far as to deem it rational or critical thinking. The government is run by over 90% white men because there aren’t enough people of color who want to be involved in politics. Can you blame them? Your comments are a prime example: “token negroes who will sell their mamas to get a seat at the table.”

            Politics is a complex, nasty, and messy process. Add to that the fact that most people don’t even know how it functions and that the President doesn’t write the laws. Yet some expect him to single-handedly reform a system that been in place since this country’s formation. Members of the Tea Party got organized and voted their bat-sh*t crazy candidates into office. Democrats and Independents sat out the 2010 elections because they were disappointed. Good job…ask Wisconsin, Michigan, and other states how that’s working out for them?

            As for him “telling black men and women what to to,” people don’t seem to have a problem with it when it comes in the form of annual summits and forums. Do you consider that disrespectful too? And the admonitions for parents to spend more time engaged in their children’s lives and education has been disseminated across the board to EVERYONE. But you feel how you want to feel about it. It’s not like the problems we face in our communities are some big secret or that they haven’t been around for decades….with little improvement.

            Yeah, it’s all Barack’s fault…I got ‘cha. Pfffttt..

        • Ronniesaunders

          Talking about an ignorant ass. It takes one to know one. Shakka and I have both been in the struggle for Black Libeartion for the last fifty years.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

          You’re the one sounding like one of them liberal whites who always think you know what’s best for the “darkies”…Why not go to Fox comment page and see how long you’ll be on before they block you, asshole…”Truth does not have to be validated by ignorance” Br Malcolm…

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

          Yeah like you who showed up with your jealous rants acting like the “cooler” white boy that you are…Real classic, try you BS somewhere else, Fox maybe???

      • Let My Poeple Go

        Um, Shaku Zuli is an ignorant ass.  All of the people on this post high fiving him while he continues to make racist comments (baby momma, drinking sauce).  I doubt he’s even black.  Lot’s of ignorant whites join black sites to voice their vitrol.  This fool is a true ass, stop agreeing with his brand of ignorance. 

      • Jacque

        Shut the hell up Shakka Zulu.  You sound like the Poster Child for the Angry Black Man. In 2012, who the hell will you vote for? I’m in with President Obama. I’m a proud Christian. I don’t attend church unless I miss the fellowship and singing because organized religion has simply gone wrong. I have two college educated, thoughtful children and I’m finally completing my education.  I never taught my kids to wait on anyone to give them any thing. Go get it!  Smiley and West are serious enablers and they are embarrassing themselves and our people. I don’t agree with all of President Obama’s policies, in fact, quite a few piss me off. However, the alternative would be disastrous for me and mine.  Your responses are good for nothing but complaints and belly-aching. Get over the sound of your own voice and go lift a young brother and sister up.  Honestly, I think you’re a divisive White Male.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

          If i’m an angry black male, I have over five hundred years of anger passed down into my DNA form the injustices done to my people by people calling themselves white…Those who forget their history will be domed to have to repeat  it, black people will keep repeating their history of brutality, because some of us are still looking for that one white person who will pat us on the head and be benevolent towards us…ALL white people are racist, get it into your damn heads and stop wasting time looking for that majical white person…They will not kill the goose that lay the golden eggs, white supremacy, which has allowed them to rule the world for the past two thousand years…Smiley and West are critical thinkers who are not letting people like you, scared negroes, who usually get others killed, stop them from doing their life’s mission, waking up black people who are still drunk from having the first Africa American living in luxurious public housing…

          • Alice

            Okay, now I know you are “white”.  you spell words in a manner you think black people write and speak in and just plain ole misspell words trying to pass yourself off as a black person.  Stop!  We are not listening to you and know you game plan so back into the “tea party” room where you came from  and tell your masters and mistresses that it did not work!  Be gone, faker for you are worse than a hater!  Take your argument to your own people as they need to know their history, for we (some of us anyway) do actually know ours!  Fake wannabe that think you are just so smart, yet are dumber than dog doodoo!

          • 1now

            I am an angry Black Man (and for good reason) but I’m not on here carrying on like you. I revoke your membership in the angry Black Man club. Cut up your card because you are a bad representative. We truly angry Black Men are dealing with our anger issues in ways to make sure our sons don’t have to endure the things that made us angry. We are sharing information with them to make them wiser so they don’t fall for the the old okey doke that we fell for. Sounds to me like you are mad because White Jesus ain’t showed up and delivered you. Guess you would feel better about the President if he revived the free cheese program. Would free cheese make you happier. By the way I recommend you don’t take it if they aren’t including bread and meat.

      • Alice

        Once again, you talk to hear yourself talk.  First of all, as Christians we are to live life here in abundance until it overflows!  Giving tithes and offerings are not to make anyone rich.  Our commandment was to give, what those who are in charge of our giving does with it is between them and God for  once we give, we have done our part.  You state that divine intervention has nothing to do with anything.  How wrong you are because divine intervention allowed you to wake up, get up and go about your day yet you in your own self-greatness do not have enough respect to say thank you!  Your postings have convinced me of one thing, one thing that has become very clear, you hate yourself and other black people!  You see nothing wrong with the ills began before this president was even born, that you and everyone else expect him to fix and overnight at that!  I did not hear you speak in such a vulgar manner about the former presidents that blatantly did all of these things in your face and dared you to open your mouth and you did not.  Now that there is a black man in the office of president, you feel and behave as if he does not deserve respect simply because he is not a ‘white” president!  Listen to yourself, couching your rhetoric in colorful language thinking that those of us who know how to think and spell, will somehow miss the core of your ignorance imbedded in your loud talk yet you are not saying anything of value for us to grab hold of and use as a tool to help us reverse what has been done to us for hundreds of years with us doing it the last two hunderd or so years to ourselves!  Have you ever read the ‘willie lynch” papers?  If not, you should and once you do, I pray that you understand the core of your hatred for yourself and all black people!

      • Dcollins

        So, for “race hustlers” like you, anything short of completely relieving black people of any and all responsibility for their own lives is capital offense.  Ignorant asses.  Obama’s healthcare bill called for free check-ups (my co-pays went from $25 to $50 in response) for everyone.  It also created 10,000 health clinics in urban and rural communities (single payer by stealth).  When the GOP gets back in power, I hope defund all of it.  Maybe Tavis and Cornel can fund it.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

          All of these people in office are funded by corporations, not the damn ballot…Telling me to vote or die is not going to solve black people’s issue, what will clean it up is putting some of these corporations out of business who fund these people sitting their asses in gov’t…These people only need our votes to get into office, they need corporate donations to fund their campaigns and keep them in office…It does not matter who’s in office, they all play the same political game and will keep using us, we always had the power in our wallets and not the ballot box…

        • Anonymous

          Let’s be accurate, shall we?

          Under the Affordable Care Act, you and your family may be eligible
          for some important preventive services—which can help you avoid illness
          and improve your health—at no additional cost to you.

          What This Means for You

          If your plan is subject to these new requirements, you may not have to pay a copayment, co-insurance or deductible to receive recommended preventive health services, such as screenings, vaccinations and counseling.

          For example, depending on your age, you may have access at no cost to preventive services such as:

          Blood pressure, diabetes, and cholesterol tests

          Many cancer screenings, including mammograms and colonoscopiesCounseling on such topics as quitting smoking, losing weight, eating healthfully, treating depression and reducing alcohol useRoutine vaccinations against diseases such as measles, polio or meningitisFlu and pneumonia shotsCounseling, screening, and vaccines to ensure healthy pregnanciesRegular well-baby and well-child visits, from birth to age 21
          Some Important Details

          This
          preventive services provision applies to people enrolled in job-related
          health plans or individual health insurance policies created after
          March 23, 2010. If you are in such a health plan, this provision will
          affect you as soon as your plan begins its first new “plan year” or  “policy year” after September 23, 2010.If your plan is grandfathered these benefits may not be available to you. If
          your health plan uses a network of providers, be aware that health
          plans are only required to provide these preventive services through an
          in-network provider. Your health plan may allow you to receive these
          services from an out-of-network provider, but may charge you a fee.Your doctor may provide a preventive service, such as a cholesterol screening test, as part of an office visit. Be aware that your plan can require you to pay some costs
          of the office visit, if the preventive service is not the primary
          purpose of the visit, or if your doctor bills you for the preventive
          services separately from the office visit.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5IOGHXWFRAB3CV77RYIYFMGII Clinton_Hill_Cutie

          FYI – I work for a health insurance company… your copay was going up even if Obama wasn’t president. Thank you and good night.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5IOGHXWFRAB3CV77RYIYFMGII Clinton_Hill_Cutie

          FYI – I work for a health insurance company… your copay was going up even if Obama wasn’t president. Thank you and good night.

      • Leta

        Now Shaka have you been hurt by the church?  Now dont cuss me out cuz I will call fire down from heaven to sizzle you!  You can not lump all preachers into one pool.  There are women and men of God around this world that are making a difference in the lives of lost souls and muslims are doing a great work also  Those of us that are paying tithes and giving offerings are not forced by gun point to give.  I agree that is much maniipulation being preached in order to get people to give that is flat out wrong.  Dont think for one minute that God is not aware of what is going on in the sancutuary. The hirelings that are pimping His sheep will have a price to pay.  We are all made in His image regardless of what color we are.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

          Save your speech for the Mother’s Board, Deaconess Board or whatever auxiliary boards like hearing irrational nonsense…I don’t believe in anything written about in any books that has no proof other than i’m supposed to believe it’s so…Try your luck else where, if this all knowing G’d was so aware, he would or should have rained down fire a long time ago to relieve all the suffering in this world, so no you are not getting any convert out of me…As someone who has studied religion from Italy, Egypt, Israel, Saudi Arabia and speak several of the ancient languages which most of these so called learned biblical scholars don’t know or speak, i’m very qualified to speak for myself and this fiction called christianity and religion, period…

      • 1now

        Stop cussin so much.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

      You must still be sipping on the sauce, because you sound like a damn drunk…It don’t have anything to do with any “devine inspiration”, it has to do with will power, when we all get tired of being tired, we’ll gut up off our asses and do what needs to to be done…One of the first thing as a recovering addict, you’re told to admit you have a problem and is seeking help…When you’ll keep making excuses for Obama and will not see things for what they are, but what you want them to be, you will not get cured…Obama pull a fast move on you’ll with his hope and change bullshit, he is doing the same damn thing as all of the other forty three before him did, look out for the corporations and to hell with the people…Obama will have a nice pension if he leave in one year or another five, we are the ones who will be eating out of trash cans…The first law of nature is self preservation, if you don’t want to look out for yourselves, then don’t expect anyone else to…That’s the problem with you’ll religious nut jobs, the white man made himself into the image of God, told you’ll to wait on the lord and to seek your reward in the hereafter, while he gets his here on earth…That should be telling you’ll that this heaven is where you make it and not some place you have to pay a fee by way of tithes and offerings to get into…Look at all you’ll preachers, they sure are getting their piece of heaven with their private jets, mansions and Bentleys, while your broke ass dumpster dive for your next meal…Pitiful…

    • Jembequeen

      AMEN!  and I’m Muslim! 

      I’ve been saying the same thing – Pres Obama GAVE US money; we didn’t take it.  Remember the ‘Green Iniative?’  How many (Black) multimillionaires got together and said, “instead of us transferring billions of dollars to the luxury car companies, why don’t WE START ONE and hire our OWN BLACK ENGINEERS…, rebuild the factories in Detroit and restart the American auto industry here at home.”  They can make the cars meet the ‘green’ requirement and get those tax breaks and grants (free money) for starting a new green industry.   A ‘FUBU’ car company, if you will but EVERYONE WILL BUY THEM because they are Amer I Can!!

      Let’s not exclude our other brothers – include everyone that’s qualified for goodness sake, but DO SOMETHING rather than NOTHING!  (This is why I am also against reparations – 99.9% of us will just transfer the money right back to the white and asian community buying consumer goods!)

      This is just one example of the President pitching us the ball – we just don’t catch it.  We’d prefer to sit back and complain about stuff that was going on long before he got there and will continue long after he’s gone (like incarceration rates).

      I live in Africa and have 10/12 products that would make anyone with a work ethic rich – I have searched online thru HBCUs and major cities for distributors until my fingernails broke off and finally I gave up.  I live a comfortable life here so I’m cool, but it really bothers me to see/hear black folks complain about the lack of ‘jobs’ = uh, MAKE YOUR OWN DAMN JOB and quit waiting on someone else to do it!  White people ain’t got jobs either, or haven’t you noticed?!  You think they are going to give US JOBS over themselves? 

      That would be madness and we’re even more crazy to think they would.  Self preservation is the 1st law of nature.  We’re the only race of people that think OTHER FOLKS should ‘preserve’ us.

      lol!  Sorry – it ain’t happin’ captain!

      If you want to know about green products you can sell in your community and other items to make you more sufficient, FIRST ‘google’ SenegalStyle and then hit me up at JembeQueen@yahoo.com

    • Jamalunge

      yes!!!

  • Victoria Rowels

    A Letter to My Brothers

    Copyright by Victoria Rowels, 2011

    Tom, Tavis, and Dr. Cornell

    Three brothers we all wish well.

    Y’all gotta a right to disagree

    But I’m still hoping for unity

     

    I done seen the enemy

    And he don’t look like y’all

    Sometimes he’s short

    Sometimes he’s tall

    He says he’s white

    But he looks pink to me

    He loves Black disunity

     

    Pain done come and left its mark

    The hidden stuff came of out the dark

    But God is good and loves us all

    My three brothers, I depending on y’all

     

    The mic in your hands is a powerful tool

    Of course they want 
    y’all to cut the fool

    Don’t give in and fall for o-ke-doke

    Y’all remember what they like to do with rope

     

    Now they swinging rope all up in the air

    It’s a high class lynching and it ain’t fair

    But they play dirty and always will

    Y’all intelligent and know the deal

     

    Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

    A soul is too much to pay for fame.

    Yeah we are diverse and we will disagree

    But I’m still hoping for unity.

    • JembeQueen

      Thank you Victoria – I know you are speaking for many of us who aren’t as talented as you!  Thank you!  Thank you!

    • R2B2PHOENX

      THANKS — Victoria R — So, I am hearing multiple tracks — “This Land is Your Land…” —   “Wake Up Everybody” (TeddyP), “America” (RayC) and “Man in the Mirror” (MichaelJ) —
      along with these points:
      Black People — this land and certain of the commercial patents and products were conceived and developed by your ancestors — “own it”
      Black Families — before the reverse mortgage game, get wills and trusts in order —  take a look a succession planning and leverage parents’ and grandparents’ property ownership into mover ownership (DON’T be tempted for the easy feel with drugs, prepayment on college education, and trips to the … wherever… the health of your estates will take care of the trips soon enough and your children’s educational pursuits will be taken care of with their career development.)
      Black Relatives– don’t wait for so-and-so to die….and talk to folks now before you start arguing after the “loved one” passes.  THERE ARE interested parties waiting on you to start arguing, offer you $$ to put in your hands and go away while the true value of your relative’s estate is $$$$$ and you end up with your short-term “happines$.
      Black Business and Customers — patronize a few of your own — either on the Internet or in the neighborhood..
      AND OTHERS:
      Lawyers and Teachers and Ministers — take the oath and teach us well; instill/impart knowledge so we become accountable to our actions and capable of knowing when a “game” is being run on us by predators..
      Doctors — exhibit allegiance to Hypocratic; work with nutritionists (vegans too) so we don’t fall victim to the food allergies and maladies that keep our health at risk
      Warehouse and Building custodians and security — be the best, own the operations
      Investment/Insurance/Bondholders/CPA’s/MBA’s — help us keep and grow the money we have. Don’t just be employees — share your expertise through organizations and symposia. We need it … and we’ll pay you for it..
      PARENTS — be true, supportive nurturers that will empower us with coping skills and probative strength — to appreciate you, where we are and what we will become.

      Dr. Boyce — I trust your colleagues will continue to use these media to spawn the kind of discourse that links generations of males and females so there is a legacy of leadership, parenthood, cultural interdependence among our people. Black people are more a tapestry than a melting pot, more multifaceted than homogeneous. WE can ill-afford to let “generational” gaps in business, education, life principles weaken us as a people (again).

  • Marie

    sorry I have to agree with Tom

    • Ronniesaunders

      Marie: You agree with Uncle Tom Joyner? Why? Talk to me on substance and content.

  • John Derek Hopings

    Dr, Boyce should learn how to type and spell!

    • Ronniesaunders

      And that is the only thing that  you bring to the table is a critique of the Dr. Boyce’s grammar and spelling.
      Where did you learn your ABC’s? I bet you not are a teaching at a school like Syracuse you jealous ne’er-do-well.

  • Tamarian83

    I disagree with you on that Dr. Boyce. Tom may have been a bit aggressive in his approach, but he was right. Tavis and Cornel, have changes, and have sold out.

  • Mark A. Small

    I think in this day and age you can criticize a black president or any president for that matter. I side with Tavis and Dr. West because this sitting president has seemed to forget the 97% of us black lower middle class people that voted for him. Obama’s policies are close in proximity to that of his idiot predecessor. I think he should get some heat not the disrespect as “others” repeatedly do in chance of discrediting our president. I like President Obama personally, but lets face it the “change” we were supposed to believe in is not materializing for a lot of families it is for the wealthy not for folks like myself. The President has done a fair job, but come up short on his campaign promises. I hope that we as black people don’t just become lemmings and fall in line with policies that don’t benefit us, without some serious dialogue that would get this current administration to take notice that we are not totally pleased with “just a black president”. Joyner cannot defend a president that doesn’t seem to embrace the African American community in his policies. Tavist and Dr. West have taken a stance to get the message out to this administration which outside of Obama has no African American power brokers in it. I hope we would say Obama is no Kwame Kilpatrick ( former Mayor of Detroit) but if Obama demonstrated similar behaviour as the former Mayor are we going to dismiss the short comings? or we going to say this man is not working in the behalf of the people. I judge Obama as a president first as a black man second. I don’t believe Tom Joyner would have a dog in this fight if the president was a white man passing the same policies as Obama. No a white president wouldn’t be under all the covert racial scrutiny that is being flung by the media and pundits alike, but most likely we probably would still have Tavist and Dr. West criticizing the president no matter the colour of his or her skin. It’s about the policies!

    • Anonymous

      Since you love Tavis and West so much, why don’t you start a campaign to get them to run for President and see how far they get.   And if by some divine miracle they win, see how much they do the the black community.  GMAFB !!

      • Ronniesaunders

        diannkirby: I didn’t read or see whether Mr. Small said he loved Tavis or Dr. West. Your comments about getting Mr. Small to start a campaign to have  brothers Tavis and West  run for the Presidency are ludicrous and border on being absurd.
        Afro-Americans have a 95.7% investment in Barack Obama and we do have the right as intelligent citizens to offer viable constructive critical critique of his actions and policies.

  • Phenomenal Woman

    Damn Black People!!!  Why is it that we are ALWAYS killing our own in deeds and in words?  Why can we not have intellecutally stimulating debates about the issues of the day without stooping to GENOCIDE at every turn!!!  Most of us don’t even know our own history nor are we inclined to become INFORMED about anything today!  “My people perish for lack of knowledge.”  And the knowledge that we lack the most is of self.  Oh how sad it is that descendants of the Kings and Queens of Africa don’t know that they stand upon the shoulders of giants and an erudite foundation forged by time and original destiny!!!!  When our original ancestors were building schools of law, medicine, atronomy and all manner of intellectual progress on the mother continent, anglos were still scratching at fleas in the caves of Europe!!!!  How long shall this great people stand shackled in their own minds living out the creed of American slavery and the greatest desires of WIllie Lynch?  We are beyond his 300 year estimation of how long the master could keep us enslaved by applying his slave owner terroristic acts upon our fathers and mothers of old!!!  We are keeping ourselves enslaved today because we habor such self hatred.  We practice intraracism as easily as we breathe, we support those that hate us with our attutudes and money every living day….and we don’t even know it!  I long for the day when Black people will stop stooping to the level proscribed by every disparaging rarcist thing ever perpetrated upon us and will rise up to our preordained station in this world!!!!  But then in order to reach such a station in existence, there must be UNITY…..

    • Meanchick

      I think likening this situation to genocide is a little over-the-top. We must have healthy debates and be able to disagree with one another. I voted for my President and will do so again gladly, but at times I wonder if he is laying issues that affect African-Americans on the backburner because he knows many of his critics are waiting to pounce if/when he does. Historically, our black leaders did not agree, but I don’t think it had anything to do with jealousy. I do believe we are quick to judge one another most times and I do believe that an attack on our community is happening, but not at the hands of Obama, West, Smiley, Joyner. It is at the hands of our own men who shamefully disrespect their own women and believe that we are not good enough for them. It is SOME of our own men who attack the Central Nervous System of the black community. It is SOME of our own men who stand by and allow us to be relegated, disrespected, abused and then use us as the scapegoats to why they won’t date/love/marry us. It is SOME of our own men who are stuck on such weakness, that they run from the strength of their own women into the arms of what they believe to be “easier for them.” As I keep saying, one needs a backbone to survive. The backbone being, black women, the core, the keeper of our great people. Unity starts with the community.

    • Jembequeen

      Everybody ain’t descendant from “Kings & Queens of Africa” so you have meet the people where they are… Unity’s kings SOLD their subjects.  Keep that in mind my sista.

  • Eldon Pittman

    Dr Boyce is ALWAYS on the wrong side of events.  Peeping through his loopy rhetoric is the desire to be on the cutting edge. He is a weak voice and is trying to be something that we no longer need: a LEADER! Boyce, the mind is a terrible thing to waste!

  • Cwrhodes3513

    I totally agree with Tom Joiner and Rev. Al Sharpton.  West and Smiley are typical sale out Negroes that are consummed with jealousy as with many of the black baby-boomers that are in high profile positions.  I guess their idea on dealing with the black issues would be for the president to put a choke hold on the employers (GOP/Bagger supporters) and force them to hire African Americans…even the ones walking showing their underwear.  Then maybe the president should demand that ALL brothers and sisters be released from prison just because they are black like him.  Is that what their arguments are about?  White folks seek out Negroes like West and Smiley…they are typical of the sale out Negroes  AKA: craw fish and I am disappointed that Dr. Boyce appears to be if full support of them.  How many years has it taken us the African Americans to have a president of color.  We have had Jesse Jackson and a few others attempting to make a statement while knowing they could never win.  Then along comes a brother that by-passed the uppity Negroes and won by a landslide because HE WAS THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB!  Now we have all kinds of crazy people thinking they can win only because they have no respect for President because he is black.  The racist still see ALL black men as 1/4 on a man.  The sale-out Negroes will be the reason some will not vote in 2012…which makes me think that maybe the KOCH brothers have lined their pockets to play on the intelligence of the African Americans just like the Palins, Bachmans, Becks, Limpyballs and many others are playing on the poor white folks. People like Smiley and West are very dangerous and do more harm then the racists can in the black community.  They may be the reason we lost the Democratic congress…WE did not VOTE to send some help for the president.  Now we have the Party of NO controlling the congress with one mission and that is to make the President a one term president and with the help of the sale-outs Negroes that could very well happen…then let’s see how the blacks will fair with a racist Tea Bagger in the Oval Office,.

  • Anonymous

    Are Black folk serious to believe that just because a black face is in the white house, we should not expect anything out of him , that is so hypocritical we marched and demanded from every other president to look at our agenda but now its okay to just sit on the sideline while our condition as a people is worse than its ever been. The President has addressed every other group you can name except us he has addressed agenda’s by gays & lesbians, latinos and immigration ,and the list goes on. This is the scenario that black people are setting up by being so damn emotional ,After President Obama has been in office for one term or two the next president that is in office will say ” YOU HAVE HAD A BLACK PRESIDENT IN OFFICE FOR FOUR OR EIGHT YEARS  AND YOU PUT NO DEMANDS ON HIM AND NOW YOU WANT TO PUT DEMANDS ON ME  YOU CAN EXPECT NOTHING FROM ME SINCE YOU DID NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT YOU HAD YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN ” !

    • Biznesschic

      Planned parenthood remained opened, use it, and don’t give your unemployed boyfriend his third child.  HBC received more funding from this president, make your 16 year old do his homework, and don’t drop out of high school.  Sentences for crack were reduced, stop robbing old ladies in your own neighborhood. 

      These are things we should be doing for ourselves.

      • Autochthon

        Are you aware that Planned Parenthood is an offshoot of the eugenics movement and that 70% of black people in this country are murdered in the womb.

        Stop having babies with bums.

        • Biznesschic

          Planned parenthood abortion rates pale in comparison to giving out birth control, in which some insurance companies refuse to pay for.  And I am sure you are willing to adopt those black babies, who would have been murdered in the womb, right?

          • Autochthon

            No. I practice what I preach. I have never impregnated a black woman. You act as if abortion is the only answer. How about waiting to be married before you have babies?

          • Biznesschic

             Obama fought to keep planned parenthood open, against the republican threat of shutting it down.  If you want to preach morality, you are on the wrong thread, and should go over to the teabagger site.  This is women empowering themselves, and making better choices, while our government is keeping the necessary choices available.

  • ChristianWrite

    Tavis & Dr. West oftentimes seem to forget that Barack Obama is not president of the Black United States, but of the entire country.  There are issues a president of any race or religion must deal with that encompass much more than the current plight of a single constituency, in this case, African Americans.  Real change takes time — not Smiley-West time, but real world time.  President Obama made history.  Let the man do what he was elected to do — lead — at a pace the benefits all in the long-run.  I say Tom Joyner got it right.  The Smiley-West duo has been divisive and vindictive, a team I no longer support on any front.

    • Anonymous

      @cd210cbc317aff85cbfc08fb71799426:disqus You have no idea what is really happening all around the world   do you?
      If you read some of my comments it might help you, but I have found that some people have minds that can only take in so much reality, and some have minds that can hardly take in any. Some people have minds clamped so tightly shut, that if they were told to get out of town because a major disaster was about to hit, they would freeze, while trying to process the information and get swept away.
      Have you seen what Obama’s name has been used to do around the world? Do you know? I’ll make it short and tell you this..None of it is good! It proves that the same people who were working behind GW are working to pull Obama’s strings or shall I say all they do is under the guise of Obama. Believe it or not!
      The U.S. President is not the seat of power in this country!

  • Taron30034

    They deserved it

  • SedonaJ

    Dam, Dam, Dam, Can we all just get along

    • Ronniesaunders

      SedonaJ: Don’t you think your above comment is a little shallow. Baby this is serious business that we are talking about in reference to the above article and not about getting along.
      The word is damn not Dam like in said river basin. Talk to me Queen!

  • Aza Nedhari

    What I do not understand, is how and why Black people are upset that Obama has not “done” anything for Black people. I never had the expectation that he would. He is not the President for Black People, he is the President of America (a corporation, governed by code of White Supremacy). Yes, he may do a few things, however, at the end of the day, he will represent and protect the interest of America (the business). As some others mentioned, Black people in America have historically displayed a Savior complex, much credit given to “Christianity” for this passive…sheep like behavior, always waiting on someone to save you; to be your leader (God); to be led, often led into deception and further oppression. As was exhibited in Black Walmart street in the early 20th Century, as was exhibited by Black people prior to integration….we must do for self. There is a party, the Freedom Party, which is for the people, a grassroots movement that is represented by the People, not the machine. Malcolm in his speech the “Ballot or the Bullet” discusses that neither the Democratic or the Republican party has ever really looked out the for interest of Black People. We live in a country where Black People had to have a “law” on the books in order to vote. Voting was not just a human right, something that was apart of the right as a so-called citizen of the US, it had to be given to you, as a privilege simply because of our perceived status. Now, how many years has it been since Black people were “given” the right to vote? Stop depending on other to solve our problems. We have the intelligence, the resources, and the power to solve our own problems, but the ability to make this happen is hindered by trivial intellectualism, religious disagreement, and inability to agree that the problem is White Supremacy and every thing is manifestation of such (racism, capitalism, poverty, war, bafoonery in Music and Television and the list goes on—see Neely Fuller for more in-depth analysis). The American Negro (Black Person), must begin to work together for the common goal of self-determine and self-dependence. We have gotten too comfortable, blinded by materialism, and the perceived notions of equality—(Black President). This is not a comfortable situation and never has it been. Mass incarceration amongst Black and Latino people still occur, police brutality, unemployment and underemployment rates are still the highest, lack of healthy food options and resources in our communities as compared to others, the quality of education and public school system, disease, gentrification, housing conditions, and the list goes on. Those so-called intellectuals who enjoy Mental Masturbation of one another, waste time and energy distracting nonwhite people from the issues, and serve the same role as the tabloids (gossiping and creating dissension). Nonwhite people should not disagree in public, nor slander another nonwhite person in front of white people. It’s like you momma use to say, “keep family business inside the family.” Until we begin to be codified in our actions, language, and behavior, our conditions will continue to be the same and the “niggerish” behavior exhibited by all parties, will continue to be a reflection of the devise actions that hinder forward progress. 

    • Teptep00

      Amen

    • Ladyrae3

      I 100% agree. He never ran on black agenda (hence why he won). I love the Black “leaders” but we have to note that not much has changed for Blacks since they have been at the helm- you have to want to do it for yourself and your community bc only then will it happen.

  • http://twitter.com/mer1maid Nancy Ellis

    I disagree with you on this.  Tom Joyner speaks for a lot of people who share the same thoughts.

    • WizardG

      @NancyEllis:disqus : That’s just it! The divisive factor! One of the greatest tools used in the ‘Art Of War’ is the (divide and conquer weapon). With that weapon used in various ways, by very crafty men, half the battle is won, because, to divide, and conquer, leads to creating separate sides against the same enemy. Split the two groups and now you have one side working for you!

      In this scenario between say Dr. West and Joyner. Ask yourself who cares for us as a people and who profits most from their actions. From my point of view and how I judge myself and others I see who truly care for me. I would choose Dr. West every time. If you see differently I would suggest that you try to reassess why you feel this way.

      Split one generally together group into two, now get them fighting each other and finally when they are finished, and weaker, destroy them both!
       

  • Meanchick

    Dr W.EB DuBois and Booker T. Washington strongly agreed on a number of issues affecting the black community. Washington thought DuBois was too radical and DuBois thought Washington was, for lack of a better term, an ‘Uncle Tom’ at times. There’s nothing wrong with disagreeing, but there is something wrong with implying that is you disagree with something simoly because a black man/woman is saying or doing it, that you should stand silent, is so very harmful. Great Article Dr. Boyce

  • Hausa84

    Dr. B,

    Many of the things you bring to us are right on point. But this nonsense? Not!  Cornel vs. Al Sharpton, Tom Joyner vs. Tavis, Joyner vs. West…are you kidding me? Stop with this nonsense. We have real – REAL – issues in the Black community that are KILLING us. This contrived tripe, where you are offended because one of your cut buddies was cracked on….pure nonsense! Take this take, Independence Day, to “liberate” yourself from this foolishness…if you are stretched for a topic, just post some more of Lil Wayne’s ignorant, hateful lyrics and ask your listeners to condemn him or act upon him in some way.  Put up a post on all the hate directed to Black women, our queens, and call out the foolish brothers who hate on them. Have a forum where you list every ill in the Black community and have us sign up to attack those ills – suggestions, plans, approaches that don’t involve Obama, the government or anyone but Black folks. Us about us! But please, please, please – no more “information” about your cut buddies being insulted! 

    • Anonymous

      @e7f83650b2fe4420a73e8e0c480dc41b:disqus I believe that everything our brother posts on HIS site is relevant to us! Everything he posts is important, and leads us to many topics surrounding the specific issue. If you wish to create your own site and choose your issues, then be my guest. I don’t care what ‘black’ people are discussing as long as we use the venue to gather information, get a better insight on the issues, and learn how to take some of the pertinent information and do further research. Maybe even come up with some brilliant solutions.

      I am very happy to read whatever Dr. Boyce puts together. His love for his people is evident in everything he does. I can see his love. I understand his frustrations. I can see the love in all of the men and women who put a step forward in some fashion shape or form to help us learn and understand each other. It is important that our more famous people get it straight between themselves, however if wealth attainment has anything to do with it, the matter takes a left turn.

      As it is, we do not understand each other well, but that is to be expected given the level of education we have been denied, the conditions many of us had to suffer in our upbringing, and what conditions continue to haunt us today in many forms. It’s a very tangled web we have all been caught up in and we can only deal with it in our own way, and if we don’t properly inform ourselves, and try to understand the psychological aspects of our position, and how many of these issues are connected, we are merely creating more disunity and fighting amongst ourselves about these issues which we haven’t quite gotten a proper level of understanding.

      I see the level of misunderstanding, disunity, ignorance, misinformation, reasoning, logic, and mis-education throughout this comment section. I understand how this is as it is, and I only hope that some will learn something, some will learn more, and some will change what confused information they have been told all their lives, and learn the truth, dig deeper for more understanding, and a better psychological self evaluation of ourselves.

      • Hausa84

        Wiz

        Appreciate your perspective, but I still disagree. Cornell West, Tavis, Tom and the good Dr. B are 4 of the most privileged Africans on this planet. That is not to say that they don’t face the same oppression that other Africans face, but for them to waste this time on who was insulted, who started it and the like is cartoonish. The house is burning down!!!  And these 4 are simply wasting time. Agree, critique and criticism can and should come from all quarters – with that in agreement, what is the purpose of this frivolity?  WASTE OF TIME.  

        If the energy and time that the brilliant minds who have commented – including the initial post – were to focus on a problem impacting our community, we’d be half way there and NOT worried about relying on one man – that is all that Obama is – to “fix” the U.S. for us. 

        Here’s my recommendation.  That we get the Tavis, Dr. B, Dr. West & Tom Joyner to pick one issue – locally or nationally – impacting Black folk right now and dedicate ourselves to resolving it. We get feedback via this same forum to make this happen. All the hurt feelings etc must be put to the side until we solve this problem or at least come up with suggestions to do so. This would be WORK…real work…is that too much to ask of “us” for “us?”

         I respect all 4 of these men – each has made a conscious choice to try to do good for “us,” but Malcolm and Dr. King are somewhere shaking their heads at the nonsense we focus on….and those who hate us are laughing at us….

        Where ya at on this Dr. B?

        • Anonymous

          @e7f83650b2fe4420a73e8e0c480dc41b:disqus I wrote exhaustively about what we are up against,and how we are purposely divided. We cannot unify, we cannot come together, no solidarity, because our thinking is too scattered for one thing.

          Our leaders are not allowed to correct our condition to any degree and if they even looked like they were accomplishing something that would bring us together they would be met with threats and assaults from our enemies. That is how, and why, King and Malcolm, were eliminated. This also means that, even a rapper or hip-hop artist who can influence the lives of millions is a threat. This means that these artist must choose carefully what the say. They can say negative things against their own forever, but the minute they start broadcasting the things I try to convey, to their broad fan-base, it spell trouble for them. With all this in mind you must understand that we have organizations that are ineffective  for these same reasons. Even our most famous athletes can not speak! The Elite-owned corporate media is also a major muting factor. They can actually make you or break you!

          The moral of the story is “Be Afraid, Be very Afraid”!
          Let these pseudo-leaders talk. One side is saying that Obama is not doing anything and they are right,  the other side is saying that just having a black face is enough, and they are dead wrong! (What neither side seems to understand is that, Obama is not as powerful as they think!) Who tells us the president is omnipotent anyway? The same people who sell us bogus wars of course.

          What many cannot see is that, having a ‘black-face’ in that position makes it easier for the Anglo-Elite to attack ‘blacks’ on all fronts, on all levels, and say..”We didn’t do nothing”, we have a black president!
          See how this works well for them? And again, they will not let us unify, they will not let a strong leader speak reality to us, they will not let our organizations be strong and show us how to gain our power and demand our rightful place in this Nation. They will not permit us to receive our just equality on social and economic levels. Forget about reparations, they still withhold billions from what few Native Americans we have left! They do not even want us here, and they would rather annihilate us altogether. It seems they are doing just that in the Diaspora, but here they must tread a little more lightly.

          • Hausa84

            Not allowed? Clearly there is resistance, but not allowed? WOW!
            We weren’t allowed to go to school – but we did. We weren’t allowed to vote – but we did. Manage- we did! Go to outer space – we did! Invent – we did! I could go on but will just
            Say that the mindset of they won’t allow us has to end. Or we never will!

          • Anonymous

            @e7f83650b2fe4420a73e8e0c480dc41b:disqus Believe me when I say that I feel you!
            I am not trying to contest anything. I am only trying to tell you what I’ve found to be the truth, and to be our reality.
            We weren’t allowed to integrate until our forefathers and their colleagues made such a racket that something had to be done before things got completely out of hand, and many ‘blacks’ may have been murdered in cold blood.

            We understand that many of our people died to get us to where we are today. Many were severely beaten, hung, burned, even chopped up!
            They fought the good fight, and many paid for it with their lives. Today we are experiencing a retraction of all of those accomplishments, but not only for us, but the accomplishments of all ‘Americans’..
            Those Anglo-Elite I speak of will give in from time to time after much pushing, but they always wait until later to get back whatever they lose, and rescind whatever they were pressured to give up. They find a new way to make it happen and our lives and rights are reset. As it is, our children will have to fight the good fight all over again, but the Anglo-Elite learn something new every time they witness an attack on their strongholds, and they find new, improved, and witty ways to hold the people back and continue manipulating mind and body.(Their information resource base scans the globe, because they use the CIA to collect information on how others react to this or that).

            We are talking about people who are able to destroy whole nations. Right now they are taking down at least three countries that I can think of. When I say they LET US have a little now just to calm the waters, it because that’s the way they function, but they are much more prepared, better equipped, and  very powerful, so again, whatever we get, it will be after immense suffering and when they finally decide to let us have a little.

            I had to do timely reading and research to see these results. I am not in denial about our position in this country, and how people can die if they aren’t too careful. MLKing died because he spoke about subjects that angered these people, and so did Malcolm. People can’t even make the connection for some who have been murdered, because they aren’t looking at the whole picture. You feel me?

            They’ve got a death grip on the economy of the world, not just this country. They can destroy any leader in the world on a whim. Those who try to fight them usually go down in flames, just ask Saddam, oh  you can’t they killed him, well ask Panama’s leader Noriega, if you can find out what cell they have him in. Ok ask Qaddafi…

          • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

            “brotha” u speak about them as IF they are God and we need to genuflect before them! they are part of the human species–now whom they serve-that’s another story altogether–but they are NOT infallible, with superhuman powers and by no means should people who believe in truth, justice and the power of good just resign themselves to lies, injustice and evil–because that is what is rampant on earth today–and whatever else you want to believe-those who wreck havoc internationally primarily happen to belong to a particular demographic–no further discussion needed. I don’t care how many warriors of truth & justice have fallen-we have got to keep our eyes on the prize and not give in or up til the goal is realized. We have the power to create either a heaven or hell here on earth. We’ve  seen what happens when those in power are committed to selfish control of precious resources for the benefit of a few–hell for the masses. I want to see what heaven would look like here on earth–not in the hereafter.

          • WizardG

            @twitter-250419899:disqus I hear what you’re saying  brother.
             Your mind, and emotions are true and good. Yet the fact still remains that these men have flipped the game in their favor on every level of human existence in every place on the earth, and now even iin space! No they are not “supermen” as they constantly portray themselves on television and everywhere they can assert that psychological input.
            We know that they are not Gods, but they do have a god-complex. And they have managed to take everything, from everyone everywhere, and at the same time project themselves as righteous people. Only a few of us can see their rampant wave of pillage for at least a millennium!
            Right now they are knocking down two or three nations at the same time!

            So few of us see the reality of our lives, so we are unable to be a collective of wise, and enlightened people. Therefore we remain ‘easy pickings’!

            Look at Haiti, and then to the whole of Africa. The activity you see there is made to seem a problem created by the aboriginals of those nations, but make no mistake, they are being played and annihilated.

            Here we are not hit as hard and fast, as those kept out of the corporate media spotlight, but we are getting screwed nice and slowly, and now in the presence of a so-called ‘black’  presidential leader. (whom we still do not see his true colors).The game the Anglo-Elite are running is deadly and ingenious, irregardless of what we call them, or how we view, or cannot view, their game.

            Remember that there are very few of us who can see the whole game and even fewer who are willing to believe the frightening facts!

          • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

            This is my question: If you feel that the odds are in their favor and we the majority of the world are at a distinct disadvantage, then why even attempt to resist? If these people represent what God considers worthy of the highest levels of power, then I’d say we all need to  re-evaluate what we truly believe in and maybe consider that this TRULY is hell & we just don’t realize it. I’m not willing to concede this. I will never believe that sociopathic & criminally insane degenerates will rule into infinity with no hope for a global change. The people of the world-the masses who are suffering at the hands of these parasites–are and have been asleep and the ruling elite mean to keep it that way–but we will awake and I believe it’s coming sooner rather than later and I believe the powers that be know this and are preparing for it–hence the present nazi-fication of this country. You are right, they do have a major god complex but just like that infamous  biblical figure–in the end, they will be shown how un’godly they are. I believe they have a deep seated fear of black people rooted so deep they don’t even realize or recognize it any more and we have been so dis-connected from our greatness they have convinced US to fear our greatness too. We cower from our power more than they do. that has been their great success and our great downfall.  But again, a revolution has been in the offing and I believe it will materialize soon. And the universe will right the wrongs and bring all things back into proper alignment. As it should be.

  • Anonymous

    What’s interesting is that Tom Joyner and Al Sharpton comes out and says nasty things about Smiley & West while Smiley & West speak the truth about our president in office.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5IOGHXWFRAB3CV77RYIYFMGII Clinton_Hill_Cutie

      I think Tom Joyner’s criticism was immature. But Al Sharpton called it like it was and took Tavis to task for taking him completely out of context and misrepresenting him. I’m no big fan of Sharpton, but Tavis was in the wrong.

  • antoinette cottman

    Is just so sad that our black leaders can’t agree to disagree and continue to divide us at a time when we need their leadership so much…you know the a..holes at FOX are just sitting back enjoying the show…

  • antoinette cottman

    Is just so sad that our black leaders can’t agree to disagree and continue to divide us at a time when we need their leadership so much…you know the a..holes at FOX are just sitting back enjoying the show…

    • Autochthon

      We do not have any black leaders. They are all dead.

    • Ronniesaunders

      Read your history my good sister. There are more ASS HOLES at MSNBC, NBC than Fox could ever dream of. FOX. CBS, ABC, CNN. MSNBC, NPR PBS are all controlled by racist Whites who don’t give a sweet shit about you or your concerns.
      US crimes against humanity remain mostly unkown to its citizens for America’s propaganda machine is something that would even make Joseph Goebbels blush.

  • Anonymous

    We must stop voting for the lesser of two evils.

  • Anonymous

    We must stop voting for the lesser of two evils.

    • Autochthon

      The lesser of two evils is still evil.

      • Anonymous

        Right!

  • Anonymous

    Wait….so now Cornel West was right? How in the hell did I even get on this damn mailing list coming to this damn blog? Ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    Wait….so now Cornel West was right? How in the hell did I even get on this damn mailing list coming to this damn blog? Ridiculous.

  • Crystalr36

    Wow! So the ignorance of name calling, cat fighting and jealousy from “reality shows” such as Atlanta Housewives & Basketball Wives has manifested in the intellectual realm of dialogue? No matter who started what! We need to WAKE UP! TOGETHER WE STAND! DIVIDED WE FALL! Pay attention to the agenda of division being carried out here!

  • Anonymous

    We’ve been here before with Malcom X, King, Black Panthers, et al disagreeing in public about our black issues with others like below saying to keep quiet.  Change gonna come.

    • Anonymous

      @nordlie1:disqus You think “Change gonna come”. They have been hoping, praying, and singing, a change gonna come for decades. They only change that keeps coming is wealth from the peoples hands into the elite. The only change coming is the change from the positive results people suffered and died to receive, back to the negative results they fought against.

      The country was created from death and deceit. The people had to fight and die to get a better life for themselves. Now all of those advances are being whittled away piece by piece. Soon the people will be back where they started, with some having to suffer and die to get back what has been taken away.

      • Autochthon

        Unfortunately things have to get much worse for black people to wake up. Fortunately that is about to happen. Black people in this country are about to experience what happened to the native americans when it was determined that they were useless and in the way and a waste of resources. Latinos have been allowed to flood the country and they will work for less money and they have less melanin.

        • Anonymous

          @Autochthon:disqus  : It’s not quite as you think. What happened to the native Americans was done to take their lands. They were fighting back and they were overwhelmed by greater firepower and scheme by Anglos with a long history of conquering nations. Many of the natives were introduced to Christianity and it saved some of them from destruction, but many refused anything the evil ‘white man’ had to offer, and they had to be taught a lesson of death, destruction, and psychological breakdown.

          As for African-Americans ‘blacks’ or the slaves. The circumstances were quite different. They were taken by force across the seas, and by the time most of them got here they were already psychologically damaged. They were beaten and treated like work animals less than horses. They were mostly humble people from impoverished lands, because the whites were already pillaging.

          Here and abroad the Anglos have attacked ‘blacks’. Today (the era of Obama), these attacks have been ramped up! The unity a people needs to hold on to against these warmongers has long since been destroyed. We are scatterbrained now..We are drifting in every direction with no true culture, no true language, no true country of our own. We are unable to pull together what was lost centuries ago. Even the native Americans are unable to pull themselves together. The few of them left are seriously damaged and inebriated etc. Thousands of tribes, but few casinos will help some. Even today they are owed trillions that they are refused.

          Even today the Anglos refuse the reparations we deserve. There is no love for the black man in THIS country or ANYWHERE in the world by these marauding Anglos. It is absolutely foolish to think that a black man was placed in their highest position of recognition because they love us, or because they respect us, or because they love him. They are using him just as they are using us all.

          I’m just trying to inform a people who have been rendered totally confused by these shysters! You can try to understand this information and do your research, or hurl insults. I don’t care, I’m just the messenger. Don’t shoot the messenger!

        • Anonymous

          With the cost of living too high black people won’t have a pot to piss in or a place to call home.  Latinos will be the new nigg.. as we blacks join the lowest class.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5IOGHXWFRAB3CV77RYIYFMGII Clinton_Hill_Cutie

            You got it!!

      • Anonymous

        Change is happening now with the speak out against corporatism, a President not helping black folks, the unemployed, the education system and more!  People are speaking up for their civil rights.  Change gonna come as it did from standing up, resisting, and dying during the civil right movement.  History is repeating itself.  This is the beginning of the civil right movement part 2.  Many will die again to fight against this system.  At least they did not die in vain.  They tried and succeeded in making your life better than theirs though you may not think much of  how you’re living today, it is better than it was then.  America promulgates war, death and disease from the beginning when they took this land from the Indians and most likely will always do so.  Every man/woman needs to die for something greater than themselves to make this world a better place if necessary.  People are protesting around the world.  It’s a global issue.

        • Anonymous

          @nordlie1:disqus You are right in your assessments of what took place to get us (me) to where we are. It is because I have gotten to this point that I am driven to constantly compile information as to WHY everything is as everything is. I mean EVERYTHING! Now you were clear about those who suffered and died to give me a chance. I have lived a fairly decent life because of this, but I became quite angry as I watched all of our advances being torn away and something quite odd being placed in it’s stead.
          What our ancestors fought for is almost gone, and what we see now is a corrosion of everything for everyone including our white counterparts, if you will.
          I once thought that what we were suffering in this country was just against ‘blacks’, and as we are still at the center of the target, the target includes whites too! In fact the target is a global target where Europeans as well as Africans etc. will suffer great harm.

          Of course you and I both know that our likenesses will suffer the greatest harms, and you can witness the levels of tragedy all over the African Diaspora. So while the Egyptians, Syrians, and Greeks fight in vane for their rights, Africans are just being annihilated quietly, and diabolically.

          It’s quite an undertaking to study the bigger picture, and put the pieces together to connect the dots, but the signs are all there.      The research and reports need to be quickly done, but as we see, most of the people of the world are a bit confused, and not very informed on the reality of who our monsters are, and what kind of powers these Anglo-Elite really possess. Our protests, our fighting, our work at reclaiming freedoms, civil rights, economic wealth, equality, and democracy etc., appears quite futile.

          We are up against all the odds we could ever, or never, imagine, and we are not even understanding that the president is not   the true source of power in this country, and THIS PRESIDENT is only a token piece, a show piece, and that we should have long understood what token pieces look like, and what  work they contribute to this Anglo-Elite White Supremacist establishment.

          For some to argue and disagree over a person who is not really here to serve the people, is frustrating to say the least!
          Our level of understanding is flawed in each of us, but we must endeavor to keep at it, to keep learning, to try to understand better, to use logic, better, to connect the dots!

          I’m only a researcher, a messenger. Don’t shoot the messenger!

          • Anonymous

            I longed to hear this message from someone who thought the same as I as to this global outcry of austerity measures for the rich.  It’s like a group of men & women(?) hiding behind the curtain making a new world through strategically placed puppets worldwide to carry out evil deeds that they profit from the most.  They have no concern for the poor, the little that’s working, the middle class except to profit off us.  America is the worst terrorist.  While people are being distracted over other celebrities arguments and other media irrelevancies we are  losing.  Losing homes, jobs, life from drones carrying bombs, health.  It is designed to be paupers again worldwide where the people will be too weak to fight back. What about the government shooting people for protesting everywhere?  The same will happen here but illusions that that didn’t happen will be shown worldwide.  The illusions that all is well and those who see through it have reached a crescendo.  We need to go after the people behind the curtain.  Are they the G-8, G20 leaders?  Who’s pulling their strings?  We must go after the corporatists and then the puppets.  These corporatists are called all kinds of names…elite, illuminati, Walmart, GE…the George Bush family which started all this with the invasion of Iraq and worldwide market crash.  We Americans will stand up and demand change one day.  Hopefully soon.

          • WizardG

            @nordlie1:disqus : Now you and I have some knowledge of what we’re up against. I’ve been studying the goings on by the Anglo-Elite for more than three decades. They are illusive, they do keep very low profiles, and it would be fair to say that those who are nearest the top are closest to these secret society leaders. The wealthy are chosen to do the work for these nearly invisible people. It’s a long story as to how all of this is played out, but there have been some books to give us clues. One book ‘Behold A Pale Horse’, by the late William Cooper [Ex-Naval intelligence, ex-secret society] Wrote in the beginning of his book that he would probably be killed for divulging the information and he was murdered by government police after GW took office!
             As I have stated before. I have been doing some serious research on these very devious and very powerful people. These people can have anyone killed or imprisoned however they choose. These people have been the silent story behind the deaths of millions and the deaths of great good leaders. These people have control of the government, but more important they have been able to condition the minds of men from the moment we begin to learn and comprehend. That being said. These people devise very diabolical and quite devious ways to take our tax, and resource wealth, and use it, not only against us, but to pillage and conquer other nations, and to make matters worse they can use us, and our children to accomplish the actions on the ground.

            We are so conditioned that we hear the information they let out into their media and we accept it as truth and reality. Our children are the Agents, the police, the soldiers, the judicial sector. Our children are a part of us, but they are made to attack us, and other nations. We have been fired on and many killed by our own guardsmen, we have been attacked and abused by our police, we have been antagonized and turned against each other, and we have called other people who have done nothing to us as a people, our enemies, because this is what we have been conditioned to do! We are being thoroughly screwed by people whom we (many of us), don’t even realize exist.

            Now here’s the catcher! These people have been passing the mantle down ever since they took the country to begin with. Imagine this a group which maintains it’s level of activity generation after generation, since the very beginning! So when you hear the term “founding fathers”. Think about what that might actually mean and ask yourself what is the truth about the whole history, the whole story?

            These illusive people have accomplished every goal they set out to accomplish, by only giving a little when they must, but constantly pushing forward to take the resources of the world, and use all peoples of the world!

          • Anonymous

            You haven’t said anything but the truth.  Thank you.  What does the world do now about it is the question.  We outnumber them.  That’s what scares them.  Bullies and cowards who shoot/bomb first to kill.   We’ll still outnumber them though; can still keep coming after them.  They know the power we have in numbers & intelligence.  That’s why they create distractions, dis/misinformation to lower the numbers against them.  The day is coming (change gonna come) when we confront them worldwide.  Spooky to think how the so called “muslims” are/have been going after them now worldwide.

          • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

            Oh if you only knew the 1/2 of what the shadow govt is doing INSIDE this country. I am a victim of what I call the new co-intelpro, the 4.0 version, which has been merged with advanced military technology–when I say that the US govt (specifically the so-called intelligence complex of C(riminally). I(nsane).A(gency), N(ational).S(ociopathic).A(gency) & F(ascists).B(igots).I(lluminati)–is more evil than a million Hitlers and is actively working on a final solution in this country–believe me it’s based on historical precedence and my own personal daily experiences in the past year or so… and as black people we better realize that NOTHING has changed–this countries un-official motto when it comes to black people has always been-pick cotton or die! Meaning if they cannot in some way profit from us in some form or fashion, they have no need for us and they won’t hesitate to destroy us–we STILL have no right that the powers that be are bound to respect. don’t be fooled by the proverbial spook who sits by they white house door.

  • Anonymous

    Whatever Tom Joyner said about West and Smiley, he has my blessing. These two fools can’t see the forrest for the trees. The President has very little support from either side of Congress. The Democrates should be raising hell about the way the President has been treated and the Republicans should be called out the the race hating ass they have shown themselves to be. We should be raising hell about the way this man has been treated. The Republicans have fought him at every turn. He can’t get unemployment down because they don’t want it to come down.It seems as though they would rather see the country go down in flames than support the President. If you and the American people can’t see what is going on then shame on you and all of us. We all need to stand up and say we elected President Obama and if you can’t work with him to make this a better America for all us, then all in Congress should be voted out.

    • Satyrdean

      Amen!  Amen!!!!!!!!   Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Amen!!!!!

    • Satyrdean

      Amen!  Amen!!!!!!!!   Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Amen!!!!!

  • Floyd3049

    Stop blaming Obama for the ills of the black community. I come out of one of the worst neighborhoods in Miami having only a single mother to guide me along the way. I pull myself up by the bootstraps going to school and paying attention to what my teacher said. I put myself through college by taking jobs no one would take and accessing student loans that I am still paying back. I continue to move up the ladder in my field of study even though it has been a slow climb. The point of this is to not allow people to dictate what happens to you in life. Mr. Smiley, Dr. West and Mr. Joyner dispite their opinions, have not allowed criticisms from other people to stand in their way of achieving their dreams. The same can be said of Dr. Watkins. I don’t blame Obama for anything happening in my life. I choose my own destiny in life. Obstacles will always be in the path; it’s how you maneuver around them to get to the point you want to go.

  • Autochthon

    It is not about feeling good. It is about results. It is not about winning arguments. It is about results.

    It is insane to keep doing the same thing year after year after year and to be expecting a different result.

    I voted for Obama. He is really cool. He is also bombing Libya and helping the Europeans re-invade the African continent and get their greedy fingers on those African resources that are so essential to maintaining white global domination.

    • Ronniesaunders

      Now that you are aware of Obama’s flawed Presidency it is my hope that you will not vote for Obama next time around.
      America has lied since it initiated the imperialist bombing parade in Libya in March, saying that it was for, “humanitarian reasons.” That is a damn lie.
      If the U.S. had any kind of respectable mass media, they would have contested that lie, throughout this campaign of death. The U.S. is not waging war in the African nation of Libya because it has some kind of disdain for so-called dictators-after all the US. loves dictators. The American governent led by the tan puppet in the WH loves foreign governments that torment innocent civilians.
      As for dictators, the U.S. seems to pride itself in supporting dictators-so long as they keep America’s self-interest as a top priority. Whether is was the Samozas in Nicaragua, the Shah in Iran, Pinochet in Chile, or Mobutu in the Congo to name a few, the U.S. government has wholeheartedly supported murderous dictators after murderous dictators.
      Most Americans have become mentally expendable pawns systematically manipulated by the US ruling class.

      • Autochthon

        You are preaching to the choir. Hell no I am not voting for Obama, again. I knew it would turn out like this. I had hoped that I was wrong. 

        • Biznesschic

          So you will take my son’s place in line in a war with Iran, under president Mitt Romney, right?

          • http://twitter.com/darthanubis darthanubis

            People like you and nospin are so ignorant of who actually runs this countries foreign policy. Here is a clue, it ain’t the fucking president of the us of a. This country will be at a constant state of war for the foreseeable future. Obama is not going to be president for life. Read PNAC. The countries we are going to attack are listed right there for you to read. Presidential elections are a complete soap opera.

        • Ronniesaunders

          Thank you

      • nosin

        “America has lied since it initiated the imperialist bombing parade in Libya in March”

        and why is NATO in Libya Ronniesaunders?

  • Anonymous

    Accountabiity transcends color, race or political affiliation.  This appears to be the message Tavis Smiley, Cornell West and others have proferred.  Visit the website http://www.coalition4change.org/  and click the video “Racism In the Federal Government A-Z”.  Perhaps, then many will begin to understand why addressing concerns of the Black community is an urgent concern that we all must collectively address including the present administration.

  • ForBlackEmpowerment

    Having a black president does not entitle every black person to anything. It entitles us to want to do more for ourselves!! I have always felt that President Obama wants us to turn our statistics around on our own by being a positive role model for our community. Let’s get to work, Brothers and Sisters!!!

  • Mclaucd

    I totally disagree with the response of Dr. Boyce.  Tom Joyner has every right to comment on Smilley & West the way that he did.  Smiley & West have been a thorn in the side of President  Obama since day one, and have never had anything positive to say about the President, or his administration.  Tom Joyner has always told it as it is, regardless of the subject, and he has continued to do so, as it applies to Smilley and West.

    • Ralphx

      What you state is not true.  Dr. West was an adamant supporter of President Obama.  Why do we make statements on emotions and not on facts?

  • james

    I don’t use all the big words you guys do but from where i stand Tavis, West, an Dr Boyce, I don’t know who is doing more destruction to the black race right now you all or Rush Limbaugh an that other right winger Glenn Beck. I think you all should go behind close doors an discuss these issues instead of putting your business in the street, each one of you have to have your own opinion an put it on the air waves, somebody need to pull the plug on you sell outs, we have been trying to elect a black President for eva, now we have one an all the fuss is coming from us, you guys sound just like them white i mean right wingers,  think President Obama can change everything over night,  we don’t need white folk to tear us down any more we doing a good job at it ourselves, the drug dealers in the hood, an the big time black book writers an commentators on the air waves, Tavis, Dr. Boyce an Mr West your no different than the drug dealers on the corner if not worse, only difference is your educated idiots, I use to respect each one of you but now i think you guys have turn in to the crabs at the bottom of the bucket, the old Willie Lynch theory is still alive an well if I had a radio show right now i’d get on the mike an say too all America “HERE COME THEM HOUSE NIGGERS” LOL, bunch of fools will do anything for that all mighty dollar, sell your souls to the devil. The only reason i stay subscribed to this news letter is to keep up with what you want to be’s are talking about.

    • Anonymous

      @7134498d7ff819839071bc235ff0b63f:disqus : Big words aside. The conservative right-wing Anglos pay Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Hannity etc. millions to spew filth across the nation, because they know how gullible Americans are, and they understand the white-supremacy racism still brewing in this nation. They use that to incite the people. Here we don’t have any world media, nor the wealth they pay. Here we are trying to understand what is going on in this very vile and conniving country. Here we are tying to make some sense of why this man was really made president and why his position means less-than-nothing to us here, and around the African Diaspora.

      Disputes between Tavis-West, and Obamacites like a Tom Joyner are to be expected between those who want better for us, and those who are still in shock that the “white-man” chose a black man to act like the leader.
      Always remember that “The White Man’s Got a God Complex”!

  • Gloria

    Well Stated!!! I have great respect for all the men spoke of in this article including you, Dr. Boyce with that being said, we are the only race of people who feel that we must all share the same sentiment in order for us to arrive at a conclusion that will serve us all. We have many great minds in our community, why can’t we express our common goals, take into consideration the opinions of all of our great intellectual resources that are available to us? my respect remains high for all, I just wish we could agree to disagree among ourselves and send the message that we all stand together for the common goal of stopping African-American genocide………

  • Aamuprophet

    I agree with JANET “So I guess Professor West essentially calling President Obama an Uncle Tom and Mr Smiley questioning the president’s “Blackness” because he didn’t attend his “wittle” Black forum is appropriate. West & Smiley started with the name calling and racial attacks a long time ago. They’re merely reaping what they sowed. ”

    I also agree with BROOK “So, you’re ignorant enough to think that Tom’s calling Tavis gay and a sellout is intelligent discourse? Grow the hell up!”     

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Avisjay-Savisti/617630819 Avisjay Savisti

    The truth is we’ve all have waken from the “Obama Dream” by now. And just like an addict coming down from his high, you find out that you still have the same problems (and maybe a few newer ones).

    We’re on the third year of this! Guess we’ll be waiting till the last few weeks of his presidency to see what he does specifically “for us”.

    (that last part can create a whole new discussion if you stew on it a while)

    http://www.livelinklounge.com

  • Sigmasoul

    Booker T. Washington and W.E.B. DuBois debated for years.  This debate between Joyner/Sharpton and Smiley/West is nothing different.   All of the above-mentioned parties sought/seek economic empowerment of African Americans.  All were/are critical of each other’s methods.  There is nothing to say that African Americans should always march “lock step”, with respect to the goal of self empowerment. To quote Rodney King…”Can’t we all get along?”

  • Anonymous

    Oh please…Tom had a valid point on the issue.  I don’t have a problem with Tavis and West, but there is always a way to voice your opinion without calling each other names…just like West did in his last meltdown in regards to Obama and Black America.

  • Jasonwilli05

    I wonder if Dr. Boyce’s tone would change if Tom offered him a commentarry gig on his show!

  • Satyrdean

    To Almighty Shakka Zulu, who relies on “Willpower”, who admits knowledge of Step One, but ignores Steps 2 & 3. (Came to believe that a Power Greater Than Ourselves Could Restore Us To Sanity; and, Decided to Turn Our Will and Our Lives Over to the care of GOD as we understand HIM), respectively.  I don’t want to get off into the recovery process; however, I would like Mr. Zulu to willpower Blacks to stop killing Blacks, willpower more Blacks to get up off of their asses and take advantage of the “free” job-training programs that are available, willpower a disproportionate number of Blacks to stop hijacking their brains with illicit/illegal substances, willpower Blacks to stop attempting to meet their financial responsibilities by selling the crap that is accentuating already warped minds, and willpower Blacks to stop filling up new jails before the last brick is placed in them.  Many of you disagree with the way President Obama, and even the white folks have dealt with our concerns; however, I haven’t witness a lot of solutions.  What would you do Mr. Zulu to create more jobs for Americans?  What would you do to assure quality healthcare for all Americans?  what would you do to end the wars in Afganistan, and Iraq/  how would you solve the middLE East crisis/ etc. 

  • Akahart

    I must say, that although I disagree with the vulgarity of each of the statements, I am however tired of the disrespect showed toward the president..I am saddened by the jealousies that we as African people’s display towards one another.  I believe that this is one of the reasons why we are in the state that we are in…not that we have to all think alike, and certainly no one is above being critiqued, it’s the nastiness that I object too..and why? did we display this same level of assessment towards the previous administration? certainly, we did not towards our “first Black President”, Mr. Clinton..so typical of Black people to always bow and shuffle in support of the White man, but for our own we have nothing but harsh words and recriminations…Spike vs Tyler Perry, Cornel West/Tavis vs Obama..both are shameful and smack of jealousy to me..In the case of “Spike” isn’t there enough money for everyone to make?  Spike had his time, now Mr. Perry is doing well..what is the issue? both are important and have c contributed to African American cinema..its the same with the whole “Cornel/Tavis vs Joyner” issue..I do believe that Mr West and Mr. Smiley belittle their stature when they engage in petty jealousies..our ancestors would be horrified at our disrespectful behavior towards our first,and probably only, African American President..I am all for discourse and critical analysis, I am not however,supportive of hyprocrisy and people being angry because they didn’t get invited to some event, or because Obama didn’t attend some function they were hosting..while they are engaging in infantile behavior, real issues like unemployment and crime are escalating in our communities…why hate, when we can participate!!! Why are they not calling  Black men to task for abandoning their children and communities!!  don’t like Obama, then don’t vote for him, but I seriously doubt that ANY of the Republican candidates even remotely have our best interest at heart..and, the brother is married to Michelle, that alone should score him some points!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Moses-Jones/100000212103235 Moses Jones

    I find it quite amusing and distrubing how i am criticized for disagreeing with President Obama policies,by my own Black Brothers and Sisters. I tend to piss them off too the highest degree when i complain about his lack of action regarding the Black communities issues;ie,the neglect of the Congressional Black Caucasus,and his conflicting rheortic when addressing those issues.When i start a conversation stating he is a President of color instead of a Black President,I always chart out my escape route from the building or leave my car running at the park.Actually,during our heated discussion, not too many Sisters and Brothers can tell me what has been done by the Obama administration which  impacted positively on the Black Community or the Country.
     Black people should pay more attention to our economic status and how it has been affected by the people we elect to represent us in all levels of Government,they are not missing any meals! We are rebuilding the infrastructure and schools in Iraq and Afghanistan and perhaps, Libya pretty soon. We are the Worlds police attempting to spread our democracy and beliefs on the world,all the time neglecting our own needs.America continue to decline due to our electing politicians whom consider their own needs first,not America’s needs.Much have changed and much have not,peace Sisters and Brothers,Luv

     

    • Biznesschic

      When I can walk down the streets of DC at 2 am, and not be afraid of getting robbed, come back and lecture me about what this president is not doing for the black community.

  • Walter Huston

    I agree completely with Tom Joyner regarding his comments about Tavis Smiley and Dr. West.! The issue is not whether a black person can disagree with the policies President Obama. it is the method that is used to disagree. Mr. Smiley and Dr. West have employed a very distinct and insightful disrespectful tone in their criticism of President Obama. The critiscism of President Obama is not merely about his policies, it appears to be personal. Mr. Smiley and Dr. West are entitled to their opinion as we all are, but let’s be clear on this matter, President Obama wa elected to be Presient of the United States, not just Black America! Mr. Smiley and Dr. West seem to have embraced the methodology of the Extreme Far Right in their zeal to personally attack Presidnt Obama. The only difference in the comments made by Mr. Smiley and Dr. West is that they have not used the exact terminology employed by Mark Halperin, but the message is same!  

  • Satyrdean

    If I may agree with DiannKirby for a moment.  What would the country be like if all of you intellectuals, Willpower advocates, and the like were placed in the Presidency for about a month?  What jobs bill could you propose/willpower that would get through Congress that would assure that more Blacks would be employed?  And, if it were passed, how would you assure that Blacks would be qualified/motivated to fill these technological positions?  What would you do to assure that the Drug Dealer ceases to sell drugs in order to qualify for these new jobs, and begin to decrease the number of Blacks being incarcerated on a daily basis?  How would you get the Palestinians and Jews to come to an agreement?  What would you do to bring our troops home from Iraq, Afganistan, and assure that Iran and North Korea would not remain a threat to the U.S.  Would you approve of high speed rail programs, and if you did, could you convince the governors of each state that it is would be a good thing for them.  What bill could you get through Congress that would assure a quality education for all American youth? Etc.  As Ms DiannKirby suggested, stop bitching, and start proposing a solution

    • Tamtam05

      Got your point! I know it’s easier said than done but if the president would just say what it is and not go along with the same B.S. he claimed he was going to change. There are those in washington that continue to disrespect the president. Some of them voted for NAFTA, the Banking deregulation bill. Both bills were sponsored and sold by the republicans. George H.W. Bush spearheaded and sold NAFTA and Phil Graham, Leech and Bliley spearheaded and sold the Banking Deregulation Bill. Now they are asking the president where the jobs are and and blaming the economy on him. I don’t think he nor the dems (he’s also fighting those within his own party) are fighting back. The president is making deals with the same devils who helped this economy into the tank.

       Had it not affected my 401k or my property value, I wouldn’t care. Since I am a homeowner and have a 401k plan for many years and lost close to 40% of it’s worth, lost money in my pension, I’m pissed! And if you have either, you should be too. This is about my money! What’s to stop Wall Street from another gimmick. The financial bill is a joke and Obama knows this. But it’s campaign season. You have to remember the president is a politican.

      The president made a deal with the phamacuetical companies and the insurance companies. I appreciate the fact the president passed Healthcare Reform, but he could have fought harder, why didn’t he?

      He compromised with the republicans on the Bush Tax cuts supposedly because they would not signed off on unemployment extentions. Well, what’s going to happen when the extention expires? He’s going to be in the same boat he was in before, again, he didn’t fight hard enough and go straight to the American people and say what needed to be said, most of which we already know.

      He sounds like a warmonger. Adopting the europeans thirst for dominance. Talking about killing people is not cool, especially when you are a leader of a country that has killed more people than I care to discuss. He is an educated man and I know that he knows that Arabs and Muslims never came to America meddling, the Americans went there lusting for Middle East oil. Does he not remember that he became president of one of the great colonialist, America?

      He says Qaddahfi has to go and went along with the lie that NATO’s mission was for humanitarian reason when from the beginning he knew the mission was to kill him. We does the West want Qaddahfi dead? Why is Iran, Venezuela labeled terrorist? Is it because all three countries banks are state owned, which means they are not part of the West monetary institutions, the IMF and the World Bank? Iran has the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world. The U.S. media doesn’t tell you the Qaddahfi was building an alliance between the African and Arab countries and establish their own currency. The West doesn’t like this type of action, they take it as a threat. Have you noticed not only is the U.S economy is in the take, but so is Europes.

      And then there’s the Israeli/Palestine issue. He knows that just like America’s many veto’s at the United Nations to end Aparthied in South Africa, the same is being done to the Palestinians. If the oppression of decendents of African people around the was and is wrong, than the oppression of the Palestinians is wrong. He wants to drop bombs on Libya and give a free pass to Israel, really?

      If there are forces preventing him from being the president of this country and he feels his hands are tied, than he should not run for a second term. Either put up or shut up! Don’t play with my intelligents. Something is just not right! I smell a rat called SETUP!

  • Tulsacrimemonthly

    The only two Negroes allowed on Meet The Press is primarily Tavis Smiley and Harold Ford Jr., two silly negroes that utter nonsense.  Tavis spoke about President Obama having a “Black” Agenda.  What in the hell does that mean?
       Opening up the prison gates and allowing all of these Black sociopaths back out on the streets to terrorize their neighborhoods once again?  Sending every Black person in American a monthly reparations check?
       Smiley and West are clowns.  Their minds are stuck in the 1960’s, 

  • Tulsacrimemonthly

    Also, I almost regurgitate whenever Smiley says his famous line, “Black Folk.”  Gosh, that pisses me off, just the way he says it.  And who the hell know what this bushy faced Cornell West is talking about?  Really, he’s not as smart as he’s fooled white people into thinking he is.  Both men are petty silly Negroes

  • Kcat444

    Thank You Toim Joyner!!

  • Melvin James (www.DAAMinc.com)

    Cornel West and Tavis Smiley found their own little niche of staying relevant within the political landscape by trashing President Obama every chance they get. They have questioned his “blackness”, called him an Uncle Tom and everything in between. It’s about time that someone called out The West and Smiley Minstrel Show. Their disagreements with the President’s policy is a mere excuse to keep themselves steadily booked on political shows and commentary. They are both looking and sounding like Armstrong Williams more and more everyday whenever the topic of President Obama arises. No one is saying that they have to agree with everything the president does. But they LOVE to use those disagreements for political fodder for their feeding and get paid while doing it.

  • http://www.perspectives-anotherwaytoview.blogspot.com Carolyn Moon

    The attacks on President Obama began when he was campaigning and escalated when he won.  To put the onus for all this disrespect on two men who have expressed their views about President Obama is disingenuous to say the least.  I can become very protective of the President when the bigots and naysayers racially assault him and his family, however,
    he’s not beyond reproach just because he’s the first President of color.
    It’s amazing that he can meet with Latinos/Asians/LGBT(s) and address their group interests but when it comes to black people the old trickle down theory is imposed.  What I do for all Americans will help black people too!  He’s got to feel a twinge when uttering that! 

    Nonetheless, I still support him and recognize what he’s up against, however, just like we
    petitioned Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and even George Bush to recognize the inequities our people still face in this country–President Obama shouldn’t be omitted from that just because he’s a President of color. That’s all I’m saying….

    BTW:  The majority of black people aren’t waiting on anyone to save them–there are countless instances and stories of us continuing to struggle and make our way in a society that has been hostile to us in a cyclic manner. That’s not the issue—but to petition to be truly free people and enjoy full citizenship can’t be lost or disregarded.  It’s a dual process and it has always been that way.  As one gentleman said at a rally–“I will do for myself–just take your foot off my head while I’m doing so”
     

  • Ametame

    Mr. Self proclaimed Dr. Boyce Watkins, i have observed your views for a while now and honestly you are not smart at all as you think you are.
    Dude chill out and stop hating cos if a person can agree with Lupe fiasco for calling the president a terrorist then you are very smart in your own sense.
    I don’t even read what you write anymore because you so not smart.

  • Tamtam05

    All these black voices that have the power to reach so many Black people in a positive way, choose to use their voices in such a negative way. How about Tom, Tavis, Cornell, Rev. Al agree to do a PSA for Black Media talking about bringing kids into the world you can’t take care of because the states and the federal government (taxpayers) will no longer have the money to provide for your child until they are 18yrs old. Talk to men (boys) about bringing kids into the world you have no intentions of supporting mentally, physically or financially. Talk about the issues that’s affecting the Black  Middle Class.  Everyone has control over where they spend their money. Corporate America does control policy in this country. President Obama is just a puppet.  Why are Black people still banking with Bank of America? What about gaseline prices, are you filling up every week or have you tried carpooling or public transportation? Everything from the price of gas to prescription drugs  is manipulated in this country, because they know Americans will pay it.
     
    What the government allowed Wall Street to do to this country is criminal. Black people better understand the gains that we have made the last 50yrs can possibly disappear, if we are not careful. We have lost money in our 401K plans and the decrease in property value. I’m not talking about the bubble property value, I’m talking about housing value before 1995. If you purchased a home in 1995, chances are your property value today is not much different. You have more and more 50+ year olds being laid off and can’t find employment paying a fair wage let alone healthcare benefits. How about the increase in food prices.

    This is what a lot of black people face today.
     
    We are so brainwashed as a people. We still beg the white man to educate our children, when the fact of the matter is we have access but parents who are lazy, have misplaced priorities and don’t set expectations for their children. If we don’t know our history, how are the generation that comes behind us suppose to know who they are? What is the “REAL” Black Experience in America and how does it affects other ethnic groups opinions of Black peopl? How we are programmed to sometimes play into those stereotypes. We must start to talk about the effects of oppression, not only on Black people in America, but Black people in the world. Not to drown in the sorrows but to understand, we are a powerful people and it is a reason why there are those that feel threatened by us. There is a fear of our power, that’s why throughout history any effort to bring that power to the surface has been crushed.
     
    We no longer have morals and values in our community. It may sound cheesy, but back in the day there would be no way in the world some little punks would take over a block selling drugs or walking around with their under garments showing. Cursing in the presence of an adult was just out of the question.
     
     
    We all have control and power, we just don’t use it. Even if you think it doesn’t do any good we need to vote and be a part of the political process. The president is Black and we should be very proud, but at the same time, we have to hold him responsible just like past presidents. It’s what he does while he’s president. Ask yourself, is it in your best interest, in the countries best interest? Times are too hard for a free past, sorry!
     
     Time out for this foolishness. None of them ever talk about what they should be talking about anyway!
     
     

  • Tamtam05

    All these black voices that have the power to reach so many Black people in a positive way, choose to use their voices in such a negative way. How about Tom, Tavis, Cornell, Rev. Al agree to do a PSA for Black Media talking about bringing kids into the world you can’t take care of because the states and the federal government (taxpayers) will no longer have the money to provide for your child until they are 18yrs old. Talk to men (boys) about bringing kids into the world you have no intentions of supporting mentally, physically or financially. Talk about the issues that’s affecting the Black  Middle Class.  Everyone has control over where they spend their money. Corporate America does control policy in this country. President Obama is just a puppet.  Why are Black people still banking with Bank of America? What about gaseline prices, are you filling up every week or have you tried carpooling or public transportation? Everything from the price of gas to prescription drugs  is manipulated in this country, because they know Americans will pay it.
     
    What the government allowed Wall Street to do to this country is criminal. Black people better understand the gains that we have made the last 50yrs can possibly disappear, if we are not careful. We have lost money in our 401K plans and the decrease in property value. I’m not talking about the bubble property value, I’m talking about housing value before 1995. If you purchased a home in 1995, chances are your property value today is not much different. You have more and more 50+ year olds being laid off and can’t find employment paying a fair wage let alone healthcare benefits. How about the increase in food prices.

    This is what a lot of black people face today.
     
    We are so brainwashed as a people. We still beg the white man to educate our children, when the fact of the matter is we have access but parents who are lazy, have misplaced priorities and don’t set expectations for their children. If we don’t know our history, how are the generation that comes behind us suppose to know who they are? What is the “REAL” Black Experience in America and how does it affects other ethnic groups opinions of Black peopl? How we are programmed to sometimes play into those stereotypes. We must start to talk about the effects of oppression, not only on Black people in America, but Black people in the world. Not to drown in the sorrows but to understand, we are a powerful people and it is a reason why there are those that feel threatened by us. There is a fear of our power, that’s why throughout history any effort to bring that power to the surface has been crushed.
     
    We no longer have morals and values in our community. It may sound cheesy, but back in the day there would be no way in the world some little punks would take over a block selling drugs or walking around with their under garments showing. Cursing in the presence of an adult was just out of the question.
     
     
    We all have control and power, we just don’t use it. Even if you think it doesn’t do any good we need to vote and be a part of the political process. The president is Black and we should be very proud, but at the same time, we have to hold him responsible just like past presidents. It’s what he does while he’s president. Ask yourself, is it in your best interest, in the countries best interest? Times are too hard for a free past, sorry!
     
     Time out for this foolishness. None of them ever talk about what they should be talking about anyway!
     
     

  • Autochthon

    The american flag is red, white and blue. The British flag is red, white and blue. The Confederate flag is red, white and blue. When a white person holds up their wrist they see red, white and blue. 

    Now pledge allegiance to the flag.

  • Marvin Smith10

    It is imperative that we stop these Inter-Community Fights and redirect our fights toward those who discriminate against us and cause so much misery in our neighborhoods. I have no doubt that Tom Joyner, Tavis Smiley, Dr. Cornel West, and you, Dr. Boyce Watkins all love and advocate for our Black community every day. However, Tavis Smiley’s and Dr. Cornel West’s propensity to aim their advocacy in the wrong direction is really disturbing! How solid, and effective, is their advocacy if they appear to be on different teams or on opposite sides of the really important strategies to achieve ultimate success? They need to be reminded who the real enemies are!

  • Anonymous

    For all the people who think President Obama should not be doing anything for them who are black–it is a vote against yourself.  Liberty & Justice for all!  That includes you!

  • Arneader

    Tom like me….love our first BLACK President!  We wish the best for BLACK people under his administration….still and yet we should NOT air out our dirty laundry.

    • Anonymous

      How can one love a politician? We have no true knowledge of President Obama’s personality or character. He is a public figure with a well-crafted image that is presented to us carefully in a very calculated manner. Love is a subjective emotion, but doesn’t one have to at least know the person he professes love for?

      Yes, I took what you type literally to demonstrate that we have been taught, bullied, and coerced to give President Obama a free pass. “Do not air our differences in front of white folk.” The time for all that nonsense has passed.

    • Anonymous

      That’s the problem people are embarrassed about their/our dirty laundry.  Clean it!  “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.”                                                                Martin Luther King, Jr.

    • Ronniesaunders

      You prove to me that Obama was the first BLACK President? Why do you believe such non-sense? Because the corporate sponsored media told you such lies?
       Warren G. Harding has many Black relatives living in Ohio and Michigan who would refute your assertion that Obama is the first Black President. Warren G. Harding white descendants/relatives have finally admitted that Warren G. Harding had Negro blood in his veins but they are still reluctant to do the DNA testing.
      Have you read the accounts of how the Democrats called Warren G. every kind of “nigger” in the book when he was running for President.Then READ READ/research before you reach such conclusions.
      Obama is the first African American President that acknowledges his Black roots from Kenya but he only used that for political advantage.
      Obama never would have made out of Iowa if we would have had a Miss Ann as his wife. Obama’s entire life has been one big political calculation designed by powerful interest to have their needs and interest served.  
      You may want the book the “Six Black Presidents  or other books on the subject

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Iris-Boyd/611306703 Iris Boyd

      Arneader, There is really nothing to air because EVERYBODY can see our dirty drawers but us.

  • Victoria Rowels

    Below is a CORRECTED version of a previously submitted comment:

    A Letter to My BrothersCopyright by Victoria Rowels, ©2011Tom, Tavis, and Dr. CornelThree brothers we all wish well.Y’all gotta a right to disagree.But I’m still hoping for unity. I done seen the enemy.And he don’t look like y’all.Sometimes he’s short.Sometimes he’s tall.He says he’s white,But he looks pink to me.He loves Black disunity. Pain done come and left its mark.The hidden stuff came of out the dark.But God is good and loves us all.My three brothers, I’m depending on y’all. The mic in your hands is a powerful tool.Of course they want y’all to cut the fool.Don’t give in and fall for the o-ke-doke.Y’all remember what they like to do with rope. Now they swinging rope all up in the air.It’s a high class lynching and it ain’t fair.But they play dirty and always will.Y’all intelligent and know the deal. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.A soul is too much to pay for fame.Yeah we are diverse and we will disagree.But I’m still hoping for unity. 

  • Virbea

    I agree with Joyner on this one about Cornel and Tavis. I have heard the two of them often enough to feel that they have been just as critical of Pres. Obama  in ugly ways as Halperin with out the use of the D*ck word.  They expect miracles of Pres. Obama. The two of them wanting to appear as great critics and want to be in the inner circle because they get a little media exposure, but they know how the game is played and how round the world is and how it goes around. They have been openly critical of Pres. Obama as any of his other critics.  They are not helpful to the cause.  Any specific deal or program that is brokered will benefit everybody. In my opinion, they are as bad as the Tea Party folks. I always thought  that Halperin had a bug up his insides when it came to Pres. Obama. His replies and remarks always sound tainted to me against Pres. Obama.  I’ll take Pat Buchanan, and his remarks, and we know where Pat stands, any day, as over against Halperin. 
    I say right on Tom!

  • Nickole

    All the commentary and soap box stands and not damned thing accomplished!!! Whew!Black folks…no wonder we flounder while Whites, Indians, Asians put our asses on the grind!!! Who cares what the hell Tom said about Tavis and who Dr. Cornell may be supporting!The same BS goes on and on and on! Who voluntered at DACCO or visited the childrens AIDS ward today,”our Independence Day”?… Thats what the hell I thought.  Go make a difference!!!

  • Anonymous

    Politics of fear all around on both sides of the aisle both run by corporations telling them to profit their pockets not ours from the supreme court to the white house.  The question is which puppet to put on the throne to carry out their evil deeds.  The puppet is going to do what’s best to profit the corporations.  Americans ought to be tired of this mess.

  • Alexander

    Apology for what? What  Joyner said is no more than what him and his staff say every morning about varied subjects. I love the fact that Joyner does more to educate our youths through his Foundation than most people in his position. While West and Tavis are criticizing, Tom Joyner is delivering. Go pick on someone else.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shantrell-Bertiece/100000429802781 Shantrell Bertiece

      delivering what? to whom and where?

      • nospin

        accidentally selected like instead of reply.

        Tom Joyner delivers for the black community Shantrell.  Do some research.

      • Alexander

        Shantrell i am very surprised you aren’t aware of the work Tom Joyner, through his foundation, does for historical Black Colleges, and the awarding of scholarships to African American students. You need to do a little research Shantrell.

  • Goldie G

    As you serious Boyce? What is it with you, no one including Tom Joyner says that you cannot give your appinion or critique Obama. You and everyone else who is honest knows that Tavis and West have been on the attack since day one!  So now that a well known figure has the courage to publicly say what so many of us have been saying about the personal attacks on the president you act like it is a terrible thing.  What payroll are you on, or what can Tavis and West do for you. Those guys are out to make a pofit for themselves and always have been, selling books and getting paid to attack the president. I have seen Tavis try to force his guests to speak negatively about the president, it is amazing! Something is going on underneath the exterior that has led both those clowns to behave like this.  Thank you Tom Joyner!

    • Ralph2x

      So not true; Dr. West was an avid supporter of President Obama during the primaries, and when he took office.  Tavis had an issue with his passing up his invitation to his forum, while Hillary accepted, but West had not been “on the attack since day one”.  What payroll???  Damn talkin about head in the sand.

      • Goldie G

        So a passed up invitation led to this kind of on going attacks on the part of
        Tavis? Yes I said payroll as a matter of speaking. You nor I know what is really going on behind the scenes but having spent money on books and forums for Tavis and West I have seen first hand how egotistical they are even before Obama!! 

  • Michaelfauntroy

    So, I guess Tom is still mad at Tavis for not accepting the Fly Jock’s request last year that Smiley return to the TJMS. Just a little inside baseball that may help clarify some of this.

  • Biznesschic

    Sorry Boyce, but Dr. West is from a bygone era, when white academia sough diversity, and there was slim pickings in the black community.  Now we have black professors who have degrees in economic theory, and can write books on how African Americans can maximize their 401ks, or how to receive a U.S. patent for an invention.  Unfortunately, Dr West has not evolved.

    How about educating inner city youths about the TRIO program, that has been in exsistance since Johnson?  There are enough HBC to educate every black child in American, so why doesn’t West use his “Princeton” influence to set up programs that inner city high schools are “gateways” to these colleges, as  Catholics or Jews? What about utilizing college saving programs at most banks, as if a parent would save $20 out of each their paycheck when their child is born, by the time that child is 18 and ready for college, could substantially aid in tuition?  I tell you why.  Cornel and Tavis are poverty pimps who stand to gain more money if they just tell us to wait on white America, (or a black president) to do for us, what we should be doing for ourselves. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shantrell-Bertiece/100000429802781 Shantrell Bertiece

    Joyner is and always will be an A#@, and God has nothing to do with that. Instead of questioning the sexuality of  Mr.Cornel and Mr. Smiley,  Joyner should question him and bobby brown as to why they cannot keep their hands off each other.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shantrell-Bertiece/100000429802781 Shantrell Bertiece

    I feel that Tom Joyner is just that ” An Uncle Tom” who is tryn to win more brownie points.

  • Mzlary43

    This is so typical of us (African Americans). Satan sure stays busy, divide and concur and all of them are too stupid to see the distraction. OMG when will this crap end, my god I get so tired of reading this kind of stuff. When are we going to unite like the Spaniards, and Italians and every other nationality. Everyone but us, it is sickening.  Name calling how lame is that!

  • Leta

         The powers that be are ordained by God! President Obama becoming the first black president is so much more significant then his color.  Not only is he half black and half white but he is also a christian with muslim roots.  Where do our most volitale issues present themselves? in religion and race!  Obama was never meant to be the savior of the world or the black race, however he is the vessel that was chosen to take this position at Gods’ appointed time.  For those who are unbelievers and don’t believe in God I understand that your perception will be different and you have the God given right to choose who and what you want to believe in so hold your persecution.  A house thats divided can not stand and as we continue to listen to our intelligent brothers converse in reference to what our President is or isn’t doing the media is having a field day watching the black race self destruct.  Each one of these brothers are passionate about helping the black race better themselves.  I was blessed to attend two of the forums Tavis Smiley held in Atlanta that were enlightening to say the least.  When he wrote the contract with Black America, Louis Farrakan made a statement about the contract that made it null and void because white america never kept any of their prior promises.  He specifically said that we are waiting on the government to do for us as a black people what we must do for ourselves!  When Obama didnt show up for Tavis Smileys forum as he began the presidential race, from that day forward Tavis Smiley has been nicety meaning nice nasty in addressing the president and what he is not doing for the black race along with Cornel West. Its unfortunate that Tavis took the rejection personal.  Now we have Cornel and Sharpton going at it while the media is enjoying the movie.  I would reccomend that you watch Oprahs Master Class series and especially her part 1 and part 2 class which his her history from the time she was born until this present day.  She was born in poverty and oppression.  But she is the richest black woman from Misssissippi as of this day.  Why? Choices!  Watch a couple of episodes of American Gangster and watch the history of these brilliant black brothers that chose to sell caine and crack and made millions of dollars all the while destroying the very seeds they fed  the poison to.  Some have died in prison, and some will die in prison and some have been given a second chance at life and are making a difference in the lives of the next generation because their freedom matters. Why?  Choices!  The bottom line is it does not matter what color the president is, until we take responsibility for our choices we will continue to self destruct. We can be a part of the problem or a part of the solution.  Each one can reach one in order to teach one their value and significance for finding their unique place in this world in order to make a difference in the life of humanity as a whole. We can choose life  or death, good or evil, the choice is ours! 

    • http://twitter.com/MauMau1067 Mau67

      The powers that be are ordained by God!–after reading this lead-in statement there was no reason to go any further, Sis. So if you REALLY feel that way, I’d say get your ass back on the plantation & start picking that cotton–you got a lot of time to make up for, what with emancipation over 200 yrs ago. In my opinion, MOST of the worlds’ leaders appear to be demogogic, lying, greedy, sociopathic, opportunistic, conning,manipulative despots–if THAT’s what God has ordained, then this is hell and we’ve all done something in a previous life to be sent here to live at the mercy of these fools.

  • Coypughii

    Who chose these guys as our leaders? What real contributions have they made to saving our people? Tom Joyner has a comedy show that imitates a radio show, Tavis and Cornel are entertainers and enablers who, have no clue as it relates to why Johnny cant read and would care less that Johnny is being targeted in third grade to feed the Prison Industrial Complex. While we as Africans in america are lulled to sleep with barbecue and reruns of ophrah on this fourth of July, our role in this so-called society is bordering extinction. Aint nobody mad either. We expect a nation built on terroist ideas to offer some sort of equality to enslaved people, when that doesnt happen we ask for reparations for the greatest atrocity ever inflicted on a race of people. We cant blame America for the Obama diversion, they knew he would do what they do, or he would not have been allowed to be where he is. we would probably do everything we could to preserve the american dream if had been ours to build. We as Africans in america have to learn to avoid the diversions and be about building our way out of this through globalizing our struggle.

    • nospin

       “What real contributions have they made to saving our people?”

      none outside of Tom Joyner who has a longstanding record supporting our community.  He puts his money and time where his mouth is.

  • Anthony II

    I guess because this is happening among those who are recognized as the talented tenth(?), or at least the celebrities in the black community, it carries more weight or influence.  Maybe to an extent, because of their achievements, it does, but also because of those achievements, one would think they would have learned a more pro-active way to address this.
    When the bottom line is reached, this feels like situations I’ve experienced where I learn that a major disagreement jumps of b/t two friends or associates that I know and one begins to lobby for my support against the other, or because they no longer like this person, they want me to “not like them either”.
    As I admire all three of the people involved here,  I refuse to take sides, despite what I sense are Doc Watkins’ best efforts to relay the info as objectively as he can.
    Perhaps because these people have reached a stage of “importance, status, celebrity, etc. they no longer feel they require the services of “conflict resolution” like the children they are mimicking and many of the comments reflect this as well.
    As “close” as things are for African-Americans,(apparently money is not a guarantee) and Africans in the diaspora as a whole, learning to see a bigger picture is critically important but apparently it is also becoming a more difficult vision to see.
    I did vote for President Obama and I probably will again and that’s because too many of our ancestors died for that right, not that I feel it’s a guarantee that we could achieve “Our Own” or do for ourselves in the process.  I think he’s the best candidate from either party but ironically he still remains the lesser of two evils because the system runs that way as Democrats and Republicans are, in my opinion simply two sides of the same coin.
    Whatever this rift is about,  I can’t make any determinations until I learn more about what’s at the root.  If we’re in each other’s corner, (which obviously we’re not,)  someone needs to sit these children down and iron things out. Any Black Grandmothers out there willing to address this?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000329480303 Jack Reinhardt Smith

    I AM DISAPPOINTED BY THE BEHAVIOR OF MANY BLACK LEADERS. THEY ALL HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER IF IT GREASES THEIR POCKETS. BLACK AMERICA REMAINS POOR AND UNEMPLOYED. WHILE THESE SLAVE MASTERS BECOME RICHER. IT’S SO UNFAIR FOLKS.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FGOEVRAILJZSQUO6XJFNU7VD2U TSnotaTrannyUBiotch

    VERY WELL SAID DR. BOYCE

  • http://twitter.com/WellDamn24 WellDamn24

    I completely agree with this article.  To tie Halperin to Smiley and West is ridiculous and flimsy.  I’d have had more respect for Tom Joyner if he’d just owned up to the fact that he didn’t like both men and called it a day.

    Clearly if a White man verbally disagrees with Obama and his administration’s politics then its political discourse.  But if Black people disagree with Obama about the same issues then they are selling out.  It’s a very interesting double standard that some of us have that traps us in homogeneity.

    We can debate the motivations of Tavis Smiley’s and Cornel West’s issues with Obama, but I can almost guarantee you that Halperin did not take his cues from them.  Rampant covert racism, perhaps?  Political partisanship, maybe?  A desire to one-up the leader of the free world, possibly?  But certainly not because Smiley and West.

    It speaks to how little Tom Joyner comprehends the complexities of politics that the only people he could think to blame for this are Smiley and West.

  • Bmwmd69

    Cornel West is one of our best black intellectuals!  I have heard him speak twice in person.  He is extremely bright and has a good grasp of the issues.  I don’t think his attacks on Obama are personal;  he just really loves his black people and wants to see some change in our communities.  Not sure about Tavis.  I do think it was distasteful what Joyner said and I disagree with it.  I think there is room for healthy debate i.e. West and it appeared Joyner’s attacks were personal and cannot be compared to Mark Halperin’s.  Seems to me Joyner was justing waiting to vent his anger and this gave him a good excuse to say nonsense.  Even though I love and am proud of my President I do think he could do more for black folks.  I am hoping after he gets re-elected, now not having the pressure of a re-election, he alters his approach to our community.   

  • Anonymous

    First of all, thank you Brother Watkins. Finally someone is
    seeing “IT” for what “IT” really is! As a Black American, I
    was so very proud and happy to see a Black Man in the White House. I was all
    excited and had high expectations. I thought that we were finally going to see
    some real CHANGE, finally! Then came the big day! The first day in office of
    the first Black President.
    Then, suddenly my hopes, my bubble, my world came crashing to the ground –
    really fast, really hard! So I now hope that Bro Sharpton, Bro West, Bro Joyner,
    Bro Jackson and others will come to see as Bro Watkins seems to have done, and
    realize that it ain’t about the color of your skin! IT IS ALL ABOUT THE SIZE OF
    YOUR WALLET! I have come to detest and despise RACISM in any form. Racism of
    any kind is all about antiquated, ignorant stupidity! Whether it be White
    against Black, or Black against White, it is a sign of extreme ignorance!
    “They” are playing us! “They” love it when “we”,
    who should be teammates, are spending our time fighting against each other. I
    pray for the day that “we” wake up and see that we are truly
    teammates and stop being fooled by the “racist propaganda” that is
    being spewed out to us – daily. The racist propaganda is working really well
    because we are too damned stupid to see it and understand it!
    Let me take you back to when my bubble, my world, my hopes first came tumbling
    down! If you will recall, when George Bush, commonly referred to as the
    “worst President ever”, was leaving office, he was propping up the
    Big Banking Elite. Stating that they were too big to fail. (Speaking of
    Corporate Welfare!). Well, I say Bull$hit! Ain’t nothing too big to fall. If
    you doubt it, ask Goliath! Nothing is too big to fall! At the same time,
    “we” are being led like sheep by racist propaganda and being made to
    think that “we”, who should be teammates, are each others’ enemies!
    We, then are at each others’ throats, talking about “WELFARE” and
    laying blame on each other! What “we” receive as welfare is chicken
    scratch when compared to corporate welfare! When Obama took office, his very
    first move was to continue the corporate welfare that Bush had started by
    propping up the Big Banking Elite. Now in the meantime, “we”
    continued to lose our homes to foreclosures, “we” continued to
    experience rising cost of living, “we” continued to see rising
    unemployment, and “we” were unable to receive credit or loans from
    the Big Banking Elite. The same Satanic Entity who had been put on “Easy
    Street” by Mr Obama.
    Now America, I do not care who you are, whether you be Black, White, Latino,
    Mexican, Native American, Middle East, Asian, black, white, red, yellow,
    purple, silver, coppertone, I don’t care, “Mr Obama” is not on your
    side!!! “Mr Obama is on the side of Corporate America, Big Central Banks,
    Big Pharmaceutical, Big Agriculture, (Monsanto, Syngenta, Bayer, Dupont and
    others)
    “We” in America are ALL going to DIE unless we wake up and bust
    Goliath’s Big A$$ between the eyes!! Mr Obama is the exact same
    “soup”, rewarmed, and served in a Black pot as opposed to to a White
    pot!!

  • Joan

    I am a 60 year old, college educated; African American female and I believe Tavis and West are correct.  What decisions have Obama made that will reduce the high unemployment in our community? 
    I am looking for Obama to cave in to the Republicans on Social Security and Medicare.  People plan on Social Security and Medicare at my age.  The question for African Americans to consider; are we better off now than we were three years ago? (before Obama)  I think not.
    We need to vote for something/someone rather than vote against something/someone.
    Just because he is black, does not mean he should not be held accountable.  If he wants my vote, he needs to give me a reason to vote for him in 2012.
     
     

  • Joan

    I am a 60 year old, college educated; African American female and I believe Tavis and West are correct.  What decisions have Obama made that will reduce the high unemployment in our community? 
    I am looking for Obama to cave in to the Republicans on Social Security and Medicare.  People plan on Social Security and Medicare at my age.  The question for African Americans to consider; are we better off now than three years ago? (before Obama)  I think not.
    We need to vote for something/someone rather than vote against something/someone.
    Just because he is black, does not mean he should not be held accountable.  If he wants my vote, he needs to give me a reason to vote for him in 2012.

    • nospin

       so don’t vote Joan.  Good luck with Paul Ryan’s medicare plan

  • Pdayh

    When are we as Blacks going to start reading? Just some advanced researching? We allow our fear of bigotry and racism to rule our intelligence. First, Blacks, althougth more than ever in history voted because of President Obama, couldn’t have elected him on our own. If we don’t research as do Tavis and Cornel and more men and women of INTELLECT, then we don’t know that the Billionares that own the Banks throughout the World elect the Presidents and Directors of Ministries. Let’s pull the perverbial cotton out of our heads and think about it my people.; I’m as proud as anyone that our first Black PRESIDENT  was finally elected. But we are not the most powerful nation in the world anymore. Look around, travel, China is the most powerful at this time. I think Obama is going to be elected again for a 2 term, because the powers that be $$$$$ want it so. Men like Buffet $$$$ are paying for it. What do you think happened to the middle class of this country?  Those powerful men that made this election happen pulled off the most powerful cou ever performed: the banks forclosed on the housing scam that they set up. We bought homes we couldn’t afford, the cotton in our heads was to thick.  The very very rich don’t want middle class so they bankrupt the middle and make them slaves to the rich. Rich and poor only is what the Multi billionaires that own the world desire. What Tavis and Cornal see much further than Tom Joyner is the real of our Present Presidents election. The two former Presidents were elected  by these same Billionaires.  See “The Bildeburg group” Dig deeper than the Racist Fox News, As long as we are in battle with each other and them “people who we think our racist agaainst  Obama” then THEY WIN IN THE END!  THAT IS THEIR GOAL. …TO KEEP THE COTTON IN OUR HEADS…if you think that i am way off, as in insane then i challenge you to reasearch it Phyllis

    • nospin

      “If we don’t research as do Tavis and Cornel and more men and women of INTELLECT”

      stop right there.  How about you research who is funding Tavis and lately Cornel, you will realize the premise of your statement is hogwash.

  • ELDWIN GRIFFIN

    I TOTALLY AGREE WITH TOM JONYER WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS OUR PRESIDENT  IS FACEING  IT TAKES TIME. NOT CRITISIM ESPECIALLY FROM SOME ONE SOME PEOPLE CONSIDER SMART.I ONCE RESPECTED WEST,SMILEY, BUT I HAVE LITTLE RESPECT FOR ANYONE WHO CRITISIZE MY PRESIDENT, SHAME ON YOU GUY,S     

  • http://twitter.com/womenforaction Julene AllenDellAmor

    Tom Joyner may not have been tasteful about his comments. But I have not found Dr. West to be as standup either. It seems that when we use emotion in politics and reasoning, we stop making sense, and people stop listening.

    I would be careful about defending any of the three. All three are promoting their work, their books and taking advantage of this great opportunity in capitalism. And that’s quite fine. Kudos to them. But let’s keep it moving.
     
    Their emotions, opinions and the need for making money, gets bundled  into this idea ,that many of us seem to think, that they are doing it for the good of the people. No, they are doing this for the good of self and their new book.

    These are human-beings,… men. We need to stop having these high expectations for other people. Because at the end of the day, we can not make them accountable. But we can be accountable for ourselves and the work we do.

  • Anonymous

    This is actually beyond Joyner, Smiley and West, and speaks to the divide over the relevance of a Black president serving interest.  As a collective Afrikan community, we are going to have to raise our political “radicalism” and group consciousness to a level that better advances our self interest and determination beyond the marginal limits of Democratic and Republican Party politics.
    For whatever the motivation of critique by West and Smiley (genuine, self fulfilling, hypocrisy) of President Obama, if we analyze the content of their decent, non reactionary, West and Smiley have stated the truth, but the majority of Blacks are still romantically caught up and politically neutralized with idea and fallacy of a Black president without substance and/or accountability. If we “clearly” analyze both domestic and international policies of this president’s administration, it reflects almost identical if not expanding, the same imperialistic and White – supremacist agenda of its predecessor.  We always want to invoke the vision and spirit of MLK (are really serious about MLK?). If he were here today, MLK would be verbally attacking the so called first Black president in way that caused his assassination forty three years ago.  
    What continuing political naiveté allows us to defend and support jive politicians (local or national/ Black or White) that turn their backs on Black interests when convenient. Why should we defend those that don’t defend our interest and righteous cause (in balance) to our citizenship? If the “so called” right wing attacks the Democratic Party/President, so what, because they/he themselves are involved in hypocrisy politics against Black advancement. It’s been almost three years since the election of President Obama, and from a policy position I ask, what “structurally” has been set in motion to reverse long term, Black disenfranchisement, zero.  Why are other special interest heard and acted upon and not ours? I greatly respect the moral and ethical sacrifice made by MLK Jr. to our struggle. Did MLK Jr. and others fight and die so we as the consciousness of America come only to replace and emulate the same bankrupt, White supremacist policy values (militarism, imperialism and socioeconomic class exploitation) as Euro-America?  
    Let’s be brutality honest, this president was not brought to power to assist the disenfranchised and oppressed, but to advance America’s international strategic security objectives i.e. Afghanistan and now Libya (Afrika), and domestically maintain the corporate elite status quo (Wall Street). President Obama like all others before him is a tool and instrument for American White supremacy policy domination. How is any of this involvement translating into Afrikan (“American”) independence and a redistribution of power? Now you have a “so called” Black president attacking an African nation, under the cover of NATO. What are we (Blacks) saying about this?  This is no different than Black- on-Black crime in the streets of America, now it’s just a state sponsored attack order by a Black president on people of color. Even racist Bush and Chaney didn’t attack Africa. Are we satisfied with just seeing a policy corrupt and bankrupt Black president executing White supremacy policies? White supremacy and capitalist exploitation has not changed in America under a Black president, but only now advanced by a so called Black man.                  
    What are the interest of Afrikan people in the twenty first century and what illusionary distractions continue to block our clarity and perception of reality? Is there any significance of a Black man serving the highest office if it doesn’t advance our agenda?
    Afrikan (“American’s”) Must Unite.

    • http://twitter.com/darthanubis darthanubis

      I could not have said it better! However, you are wasting your breath with these Uncle Tom Joyner , and Goldman Sachs employee Obama defenders in these comments section. Our people are truly sad victims of the cult of personality.

  • Chh324

    I am so glad that Tom Joyner called out Smiley and West.  I have never had much respect for the intellectual acuity of Smiley, but I had so much respect for Professor West that his published woeks were required reading for my univeristy graduate students!  I have now informed them that this requirement is now null and void.  I no longer respect Prof. West after his joining in the Obama Bashing with “Idiot Smiley”.  It is so obvious to me that Tavis Smiley has a deep seated jealousy of President Obama.  Personally, I believe in the possibility that both of these two persons have been paid off by other Obama detractors to get on the air waves as often as possible in an attempt to turn  Blacks (and others) against our president.  

    Let us all remember this:  Barack Obama is president of ALL Americans.  In order to be re-elected, he can never be seen as just  the president for Black Americans.  No, he has to be envisioned as the president of all of us Americans in this country.  If he follows the stupid wishes of the Smileys and Wests of the world,—–he will definitely be a one-term president.   Is that what  “Idiot Smiley” really wants?     Is personal jealousy that strong for this brother?  I think so.

    CHH:  chh324@aol.com 

  • Anonymous

    This is actually beyond Joyner, Smiley and West, and speaks to the divide over the relevance of a Black president serving Black interest.  As a collective Afrikan community, we are going to have to raise our political “radicalism” and group consciousness to a level that better advances our self interest and determination beyond the marginal limits of Democratic and Republican Party politics.
    For whatever the motivation of critique by West and Smiley (genuine, self fulfilling, hypocrisy) of President Obama, if we analyze the content of their decent, non reactionary, West and Smiley have stated the truth, but the majority of Blacks are still romantically caught up and politically neutralized with idea and fallacy of a Black president without substance and/or accountability. If we “clearly” analyze both domestic and international policies of this president’s administration, it reflects almost identical if not expanding, the same imperialistic and White – supremacist agenda of its predecessor.  We always want to invoke the vision and spirit of MLK (are really serious about MLK?). If he were here today, MLK would be verbally attacking the so called first Black president in way that caused his assassination forty three years ago. 

    What continuing political naiveté allows us to defend and support jive politicians (local or national/ Black or White) that turn their backs on Black interests when convenient. Why should we defend those that don’t defend our interest and righteous cause (in balance) to our citizenship? If the “so called” right wing attacks the Democratic Party/President, so what, because they/he themselves are involved in hypocrisy politics against Black advancement. It’s been almost three years since the election of President Obama, and from a policy position I ask, what “structurally” has been set in motion to reverse long term, Black disenfranchisement, zero.  Why are other special interest heard and acted upon and not ours? I greatly respect the moral and ethical sacrifice made by MLK Jr. to our struggle. Did MLK Jr. and others fight and die so we as the consciousness of America come only to replace and emulate the same bankrupt, White supremacist policy values (militarism, imperialism and socioeconomic class exploitation) as Euro-America? 

    Let’s be brutality honest, this president was not brought to power to assist the disenfranchised and oppressed, but to advance America’s international strategic security objectives i.e. Afghanistan and now Libya (Afrika), and domestically maintain the corporate elite status quo (Wall Street). President Obama like all others before him is a tool and instrument for American White supremacy policy domination. How is any of this involvement translating into Afrikan (“American”) independence and a redistribution of power? Now you have a “so called” Black president attacking an African nation, under the cover of NATO. What are we (Blacks) saying about this?  This is no different than Black- on-Black crime in the streets of America, now it’s just a state sponsored attack order by a Black president on people of color. Even racist Bush and Chaney didn’t attack Africa. Are we satisfied with just seeing a policy corrupt and bankrupt Black president executing White supremacy policies? White supremacy and capitalist exploitation has not changed in America under a Black president, but only now advanced by a so called Black man.                 

    What are the interest of Afrikan people in the twenty first century and what illusionary distractions continue to block our clarity and perception of reality? Is there any significance of a Black man serving the highest office if it doesn’t advance our agenda?

    Afrikan (“American’s”) Must Unite.

  • Sirce08

    Tavis Smiley and Dr. Cornell West need to go somewhere and sit down….what does bickerng and complaining about Obama’s politics 2yrs after he has been in office going to accomplish.  Why carry this on and on.  Why not approach him and talk in confidence about their  concerns.  I remember when Tavis became angry with the campaigning candidate, Obama,  in 2007 when he sent Michelle to represent him at his “The State of The Black Union forum…and Obama did not show because he was very busy trying to obtain the nomination…Tavis was livid and behaved like a sulking baby…he didnt want Michelle Obama replacing her husband at his event.  People tried to explain to him he was wrong to feel that way….he never got it.   I listened to him on the Tom Joyner show and other shows and read his biography……loved me some Tavis Smiley.  But all that changed for me when he started dissing Obama before the man even got in office.   I never saw this level of venum spewed by him when Bush was in office….Clinton left us with a surplus economically when he left office…he should have been putting bush down in the same manner…jealousy…that is what this is about.  If the shoe fits Dr. West…then sobeit!  

    Where I come from “sidekick” refers to Tonto and The Lone Ranger, or Batman and Robin…I have no idea how Dr. Boyce reads homosexuality into this???  I am sure Tom did not mean that…that opens another can of worms… 

    What they should be doing is talking to him or his people privately about the politics and complementing the president on being the first Black man to obtain the office and telling him what a great role model he is to have a strong black woman on his side and highlight his family man attributes….. Their mother and mine always said …if you cant say something good…dont say anything at all!!!  They need to shut up and sit down!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shantrell-Bertiece/100000429802781 Shantrell Bertiece

    Tavis Smiley and  Cornel West, thank you for standing and showing what true intelligence and courage is in  expressing  opinions without the concern of stepping on egg shells because we have lots of our so called blk?african americans who would stand and look across the street at another person murdering someone , yet they proclaim they have seen nothing.  It is because the majority of our people are so caught up in other folk tradition and thinking they would lose their little ten dollar an hour jobs, that they would say and do anything to justify the wrong doing of others in whom they are so diligently afraid.hmmmm Ignorance is not bliss. and yes tom joiner is file as the day is long and he would say and do anything for the almighty dollar. 

  • Tmccull98

    When are we going to stop with all this “Black” agenda and start looking at the human agenda. We are never going to go anywhere until we unite as a people and not as a race or color of people. We have to be helpers one to another. God is not the God of the white man as Allah is not the God of just the Muslims. Those that rule like this type of separation of race so they can target whom they will and make us all suffer because we won’t unite and become a powerful planet of intelligent human beings whom God created us to be. He said He gave us dominion over the earth, so why are we still poor, or sick, or still fighting among-st each other.

  • Hulksmashtinyman

    So if I say NO to unjust war, NO to the patriot act, NO to torture, NO to corporatism, NO to aid to dictators and apartheid state of Israel, NO to NATO, NO to NAFTA, NO to the IRS, NO to the FED, NO to the war on drugs, NO to the military industrial complex, NO to the prison industrial complex, NO to the bailouts, and NO to occupation, just as I did with Bush, then I’m a “sellout”…… Get real, people.. OBAMA = BUSH LITE.. plain and simple..

    • nospin

      bullshyte

  • Rev Powell

    Dr. Watkins while I don’t cpmpletely agree with Smiley and West they do make some points, I think we are a bit naive to think President Obama can affect all the issues we want to address without risking the possibility of being considered as favoring his race. While many white presidents have done just that I am afraid that might unfortunately be political suicide for him. We keep forgetting that it was not just black folks that got him elected. I am holding out hope that he can get a second term and take on some of our major issues. It is my prayer that he will be more embolden in a second term.  

  • Kenicoe

    Dr. Boyce,

    Don’t ever referee a sporting event, your palpable bias will lead to your discredit. Word to you my brother, no matter how hard you try, no matter the amount of azz kissing, making up you do, Smiley is not going to like you – stop waiting for that call.  Smiley is about Smiley!

    Now to your discourse.  No question Joyner was “wrong” with [any] support for the corporate bully Walmart, and his pocket interest were obvious, but his lapse in judgment does not make his point of view regarding Smiley and West any less [correct]; except for the sexual orientation references (no place!). 

    Smiley was exposed as a selfish corporate book selling brand during the Obama Presidential campaign and the backlash in the black community has more to do with his own surprising rhetoric.  Outside of making Smiley rich, what did any/all of his pompous books and State of Black America events ever accomplish for the elevation of black America?  Nada!  West, the Smiley intellectual sidekick has taken the lead in blasting Obama and in his rant looks so cranky, and borderline crazy, no one is really listening.  Who the hell knows what a Plutocrat is?  Tone it down a notch Mr. West, and maybe you will find an audience – you are not wrong!!!!!!!

     

  • Rev Powell

    I was about to go to work when something else popped in my mind. I believe that we are all focused on the wrong issues. We are not fighting this battle where we can be most effective, We need to be looking at our local politics our city councils, state legislatures and our Governor offices. This is where we can best effect theses issues. In the last mid terms the turnout for blacks was dismal and president Obama had nothing to do with that. Republicans swept state houses and are enacting all kinds of laws to lock us out and Tavis, Dr. Boyce, Cornell nor Tom Joyner can affect that it is time for us to to fight for our communities and our children we should stop blaming the President and look at ourselves and do something more than just talk. We need to become involved with PTA, get on political campaigns and start finding candidates that will address the issues. President Obama is not the whole problem nor the entire solution it is us changing cities, states, our country and finally yhe world.
      

  • Alice

    What is sad for me is that the “Willie Lynch” syndrome is alive and well and still doing the business of the enslavers in Black America!  Think about it!  None of the people who are so vocally against President Obama dared make such claims during any other administration nor did they come out and call out former president Bush for failing to do the same things they expect President Obama to do overnight!  Why is this?  Why didn’t the Black community as a whole make this much noise about how we are routinely left out of the mainstream by all of the presidents before this one?  Why do we expect this President to undo in one term (not even a whole term) what decades by the other presidents has wrought against us?  It is not just your Tavis Smileys or Cornel Wests, it is black radio talk show hosts and various and sundry black folk who themselves do very little for anyone other than advancing their own brand who are making such public noise about what the president is or is not doing for black people.  My question is what have any of you done for Black people on a mass scale?  How many of you use your knowledge to truly educate your brothers and sisters about how to traverse this system called American Capitalism?  How many of you pool your resources that you have made off the backs of your less fortunate brothers and sisters into enterprises that create jobs in the various black communities?  How many of you instead of pandering to the established ports of capitalism, actually build something i.e. hotels, manufacturing plants, etc to help provide a base for wealth within the black community? How many of you are so busy running to live amonth the so-called enemy, that you forget that you too once lived in depressed areas and there but by the Grace of God could have gone all of you?  In my opinion, you all talk a good game, but none of you actually live out what you spout in your self-proclaimed greatness. Our people need all of us working together for our collective uplifting instead of always working against each other for our collective demise. Stop the public flogging of each other and let us go behind closed doors, iron out our differences and come out united for the good of all concerned.  When we come together, let us not forget to leave our collective egos at the door!  Real work needs to be done and we cannot do any of it by bickering and playing the dozens with each other.  The time for games is over, the issues facing us as a people are just too serious for us to still be playing as if we are truly part and parcel of mainstream America, regardless of how much money you may or may not have!  The time is now the issues are clear,let us get the work done and shut up unless you have something encouraging and uplifting to add!  I make all of these declarations to you from a vantage point of love, now can we please put the busines of the collective ahead of the individuals?

  • frdmequal

    Way to go Dr.Boyce! Tom Joyner is selfish and strikes out against prominent black people like Michael Jackson, himself. Tom Joyner calls men deadbeats just for having a different address by not recognizing the illegalities, the anti- family spirit, and slavelike scam of the child support system. Joyner has no room to judge others.

  • frdmequal

    Way to go Dr.Boyce! Tom Joyner is selfish and strikes out against prominent black people like Michael Jackson, himself. Tom Joyner calls men deadbeats just for having a different address by not recognizing the illegalities, the anti- family spirit, and slavelike scam of the child support system. Joyner has no room to judge others.

  • Shipley 4

    I have been in academia for many years and enjoyed the works of Cornel West and the commentary of Tavis Smiley. I have also enjoyed listening to Tom Joyner for many years. I agree with Tom Joyner. We, Blacks, are far too willing to defer to certain of our people becoming “spokespersons” for the race. That takes on significant meaning when those Blacks are embraced by white media and others. All too often, those Blacks seem to forget themselves and begin to bask in the attention (not to mention money and public attention). Cornel forgot himself long ago, and Tavis thought himself a “national’ figure. Their criticism of Obama is ridiculous. they want him to really think of them as “touchstones’ for the race. I never saw/heard either so outspoken before either their elevation to national exposure and their books began to sell. I am totally disappointed in both men. Tom Joyner had both the nerve and guts to “call them out.’ The overwhelming number of Blacks agree with Tom Joyner and realize that both West and Smiley have lost touch. Unfortunately, Black academics have neither the nerve or outlets to speak the truth.  

  • Shipley 4

    I have been in academia for many years and enjoyed the works of Cornel West and the commentary of Tavis Smiley. I have also enjoyed listening to Tom Joyner for many years. I agree with Tom Joyner. We, Blacks, are far too willing to defer to certain of our people becoming “spokespersons” for the race. That takes on significant meaning when those Blacks are embraced by white media and others. All too often, those Blacks seem to forget themselves and begin to bask in the attention (not to mention money and public attention). Cornel forgot himself long ago, and Tavis thought himself a “national’ figure. Their criticism of Obama is ridiculous. they want him to really think of them as “touchstones’ for the race. I never saw/heard either so outspoken before either their elevation to national exposure and their books began to sell. I am totally disappointed in both men. Tom Joyner had both the nerve and guts to “call them out.’ The overwhelming number of Blacks agree with Tom Joyner and realize that both West and Smiley have lost touch. Unfortunately, Black academics have neither the nerve or outlets to speak the truth.  

  • Shirlimo

    amen.  I surprised at Joyner.  We as a community need to learn how to agree to disagree and accept other individuals points of view.  He has villified two erudite individuals with unwarranted commentary.  Hope he gets it together.

  • Ronniesaunders

    It takes one to know one.

    Thank You

  • Bj 4 Me

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    do not argue with an idiot. he will drag you down to his level
    and beat you with experience.

  • Brook

    Anyone who thinks that it makes sense to defend President Obama needs to provide evidence that he’s doing his job, and not just fall back on their love of his black skin.  Black people need to grow up. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LOELPS6SE5GV5MVTAWIG5T5YQE bigmamamuley

    Dr Boyce, you are one stupid asshole. Let me get this straight. We should not be worrying about Black thugs, that are in jail. That’s exactly where criminals are suppose to be. If Barrack Obama, or any other President would waste their time, pardoning or reducing these criminals sentences, they should be thrown out of office. As for the unemployment question, yes there needs to be more done about this. But, who the hell wants to hire ignorant people, who walks around, with their pants on the ground, calling themselves Nigger”s? Did society tell these morons to drop out of school, and go around spreading their seeds from one woman to another, and produce children out of wedlock? This President, and no other President has the power to change wannabe gangsters, and rappers lifestyle. It is up to our community to give guidance to the youth of today, not pamper or make excuses for them. Tavis Smiley, Cornell West, and you Dr. Boyce, are nothing but race baiting hustlers.
     If you three, were really concern about what is happening in the Black community, you all would go out into the community and meet with these young people, and teach them about self respecting themselves, and mentor them on what it takes to get a decent job, and how to stay the hell out of jails. The only thing that the three of you seem to be interested in is ridiculing this president, so as to get invited on t v shows, and secure your White sponsors like Walmart. That Tavis guy, is still so mad that his beloved Hilary Clinton didn’t win, that he is willing to go to any length, to destroy the re-election chances of Obama.

    • guestestwitthebestest

      i love when non-black people get online under the cloak of web disguises and pretend to be black so that they express their hateful, ignorant, racist gibberish.

      So original.

      Or, do you really believe that unemployment is the fault of the unemployed, and the imbalanced and unethical practices of the judicial system are to be blamed on the imprisoned?  Do you really believe that healthy, critical, public debate by the educated automatically means that they are not reinvesting sustainable resources into the community?

      Vote Mumia, election 2012.  Rock the vote!!!!

  • Dcollins

    This self-appointed, “schalor for black America”  make that a “liar for black America

  • Faidahmoore

    Tavis Smiley?  Please! I lost respect for him a LONG time ago….

  • cslay

    We have more pressing issues in our community than the constant gossip that is offered by so called “Black News” sites.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brotherap-Green/100002088326522 Brotherap Green

    Black folk should not get side tracked by the pettiness of either of these three.  Tavis sounded real petty suffering from a case of Negro paranoia while publicly attacking Obama, a few years back.  Cornell West sounded consummately silly, wasting broadcast time on the MSNBC Ed Show, a few weeks back, with a flimsy critique of Obama.  Now Tom Joyner launches a simple minded, typical Negro, “y’all need to hush y’all’s mouth” attack on the other two.  Real Amos and Andy stuff, in my opinion, going on here!  This is not unlike the public attacks by blacks who set upon Marcus Garvey back in the 1920s. Read “Negro with a Hat”.  However, where I disagree with Joyner, and not-unlike in the case of Garvey, white folk threatened by the symbolism and potential advancement of Garvey did not require the dissatisfaction of Negroes to launch their insidious attack.  They haven’t required a Smiley or West to show their disdain and disrespect for Obama as Commander-in-Chief.  We’ve seen white media folk spitting, Tea baggers placing Hitler mustaches on Obama, and carrying around stuffed monkeys on their shoulders.  

    • guestestwitthebestest

      So true.

      Like anyone white looks to anyone black for permission to do anything.  It certainly wasn’t Tavis Smiley or Cornel West that created the comfort level for that cartoon of Obama as a chimpanzee being assassinated, or for the New Yorker to portray Michelle Obama as a militant and Barak as a jihadist.  It has not been their heated debates that cause many people to believe that Obama is best friends with Bin Laden.  They will believe and print and say what they want.

      So true.  Tom Joyner is a puppet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/twyche Terrill Wyche

    I’m not surprised at Joyner’s response. He’s a pitchman for a major airline. Joyner’s is as co-opted as one could be. So anyone who questions policies that do not support corporate greed and mismanagement would be villified on his radio show or anywhere else.

  • Goingkoconuts

    I often find your remarks a little off color. I personally agree with Tom Joyner position regarding Tavis. I lost respect for Tavis when he acted like a little girl regarding President Obama’s inability to attend his annual forum, which doesn’t do anything but turn up the heat in the kitchen and feed only the members of the panel. Yes he was jealous of President Obama, and because of his behavior myself and many other Black citizens no longer view or respect him or his opinion. His removal from televison would only result in the loss of his wages. He is not an asset to the black community.

     I have personally watched Tom Joyner do more for our communities than either one of these gentlemen, including yourself. I might add that I’m really falling out of love with your platform as well, it started with subject matters that mean absolutely nothing towards the advancement of our community. Hint: Kim kardashin

  • Anonymous

    Dang.. I can’t believe so many people would turn there backs on the profound words and wisdom of Cornel West.. Obama has expanded the Afghan war, unconstitutionally waged war on Libya, has killed a mass amount of civilians in Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Libya, he’s still endorsing torture and secret prisons, he gives unwavering support to the apartheid state of Israel (Yeah, Dr. West was right in saying that Obama is more comfortable with upper class whites and jews.. get over it), he endorses the unconstitutional Patriot Act, he supports the war on drugs aka the war on black people, etc etc…. Geez, when will people stand on principle rather than just shilling for some “black face in a high place”.. I mean if you really support all of the above stated policies than OK, I got nothing for you other than to say your philosophy scares the hell out of me and does nothing but undermine our freedoms, liberties, and national security. But if you thought they were wrong when Bush did it, then geez, show some freaking backbone!…. TOM Joyner… pshhh what a fitting name..

    • guestestwitthebestest

      Love this post.

    • nospin

      bullshyt

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Iris-Boyd/611306703 Iris Boyd

    Joyner has a right to criticize Smiley and West but comparing them with Mark Halperin was a bit over the top. Just like calling Obama a “black puppet” and “mascot”.  West better watch what he is saying because what he is getting ready to do with the likes of Jane Hamsher and FDL, he will end up becoming one himself. http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/05/firebaggers-genius-plan-to-primary-obama/

  • guestestwitthebestest

    I have met Tom Joyner…once…and never need to again.  Tapdancing is in his grin.

    Also, I stopped listening to his show when he and his ridiculous panel of comedians berated a mother for not thinking the Disney cartoon, Frog Princess, was suitable for black children, noting that her daughter had been frightened by the shadow man (among other reasons, which I personally do not disagree with).  They blamed this mother for the child’s fear, defended Disney as if Disney was they mama, and then hung up on her.  One of their loyal listeners.

    That is why Wal-mart pays him, why he can be the spokes-person for billion dollar companies.  He will gladly and without remourse humiliate his listeners to side with multibillion dollar corporations that also disregard us.

    He is no better than Tavis or Cornel West.  And furthermore, at least Tavis and Cornel are cheering against Obama for what I believe they believe is what is best for the people.  And we must remember that Obama is not a black man who is president, but that he is a black man that has become a multi-billion dollar corporation.

  • balampop1

    i am sorry to see professor boyce defending tavis and west .i beleive boyce will lose credibility doing this.it’ obvious to me tavis and west are running personal agendas.i
    wrote west and tavis off in 2008,the way it looks boyce will be the next write off.so
    sad, sad ,sad.

  • Cobbbobo

    Travis & West has a right to there opinion (don’t agree) but that’s there right  Tom Joyner is just as bad because of the saying among blacks we don’t stick together.  don’t know anything about West but whatever relationship they have that’s their business  Far as people changing both Travis & Joyner aren’t the same as they were in the beginning. The president is doing the best he can just like any other president nobody can really make everyone happy, only GOD.

  • Anonymous

    Obama has lost a whole lotta votes from a whole lotta people.  Whether they vote for someone else or don’t vote at all…he is responsible for that.  Hope he don’t get selected like Bush.

  • Kitty

    Dr. Boyce
    I use to like Tavis Smiley and Cornel West but something happen to these two guys before and after with our President. It’s not about Accountability -“Holding the President Accountable” This has nothing to do with “If you don’t agree with the President” then you’re a hater and if you can’t see through both of these guys, you must have on blinders for sure. West, testing the President blackness, are you kidding me? What does his black card have to do with Accountability> So Mr. Boyce, since West decided the President is not Black enough, now he hides behind the shield of Accountability. Now Smiley, the President couldn’t be at his all black conference to show how black he is and again just because The President was absent from the circus show of blackness, Smiley threw a tantrum in Blackville and now the President has to endure harsh attacks from both wounded men. It’s okay to disagree with the President and hold him accountable to ALL Americans but Dr. Boyce come on here, these men Smiley and West are throwing tantrums on something far less than “HOLDING THE PRESIDENT ACCOUNTABLE” these guys are straight haters of the President. And I wish both of these men would stop thinking they are the Messiah Voice of the Black Community, this too has bruise their ego. They are no longer sought after for the voice of reasoning now that the President has taken the spotlight. Dr. Boyce, even Stevie Wonder sees through these guys! GEESH!!!
    And Tom Joyner is correct in his statement and I agree, these two men have open up the door for non-sense. I say like Tom Joyner says IM DONE-WELL DONE WITH THESE TWO!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dwayne-Jenkins/1235404930 Dwayne Jenkins

    Dr. Boyce….you can’t be serious….I can’t believe you would under play the words of Cornel West. 

    “I  think my dear  brother Barack Obama has a certain fear of free black  men,” West says.  “It’s understandable. As a young brother who grows up  in a white  context, brilliant African father, he’s always had to fear  being a white  man with black skin. All he has known culturally is  white….He has a certain rootlessness, a  deracination. It is  understandable.
    “He feels most comfortable with upper middle-class  white and Jewish  men who consider themselves very smart, very savvy  and very effective in  getting what they want,” he says.

  • http://www.thebatchelorpad.biz Michael_ingram25

    Joyner is full of it. This is the invertebrate that cooned it up in front of a nationwide audience on MSNBC (Must Sellout Negroes By Cable) with Chris Matthews when the young brother from Texas Southern nervously asked a question re reparations: (AWWWWW, MANNNNNN…we ain’t gonna get no 40 acres anna muuuuullle!)

    That was the best he could do??? And Matthews let that crap slide (as did the other resident “smart people” on the stage) Regardless of how you feel about reparations, the foundation for an intelligent conversation at a HBCU was squashed; and the gesture by Joyner made it a double insult!

    How many people on this stream are aware that on 7/29 this year it will be THREE YEARS since Congress formerly apologized for slavery?

    But CNN didn’t think that was Black enough to be thrown into the “Black in America” B.S. in 2008…

    Doc B is right on one thing for sure; Joyner didn’t let his corporate sponsorship interfere with his business agenda. Sadly, he did it at the expense of other Black folks before him.

    Fly Jock, my ass – Joyner is toxic.

  • Franceskive

    I agree with Dr. Watkins, uncle Tom…I mean Tom Joyner should apologize he went to far.  Tavis and Dr. West have a right to question what the president has done for Black people with our  tax dollars.  It has nothing to do with us helping our communities which is a seperate issue.  We are talking about Policies people, two different thiings!  Look up policies, then follow President Obama’s record on new policies for different groups, from the super rich to illegal aliens and everyone in between, except us!  I think they all should apologize to each other and move forward with helping shape new policies to benefit tax paying Black people!!

  • Gesimpson7

    I hear you Boyce, but I disagree with your interpretation of what Tom is trying to say. First of all, the hood I come from is Harlem no other, none better. With that said, I enjoy listening to Tom, I think he is a refreshing entertainment piece and platfrom for the Black Community, and unlike Tavis or even Cornel who used to be my “internal intellectual mentor”, he actually provides ACTUAL activities and platforms for the Black community, not just talking head stuff.

    Now I am sure he did not infer anything “gay” or homosexual and now you have opened the door for another demographic to come and stomp all over Tom, from your “misinterpretation”. I, like Tom do not believe it is neccesary for those guys to attack the President when they have no solutions and have not really looked at the policies that he has put out there the really help Blacks, in general. Also, he is the President of the USA, not just “po black folk”. And he is delivering what he promisded, but damn, he can’t raise the flicking dead.

    Unemployment among the Black community ahs a lot to do with us, not taking advantage of the many programs that are there to help educate themselves is the number one factor. Look, I was a single mom, holding down tow jjobs until I recieved my graduate degree and then eventually finishing my classes towards my doctorate. I di not get help from NOBODY. I have over 154k in lains and thanks to the OBAMA administration they are now more managable for me to pay, in addition too having modifications available to me to help restructure my debt and mortgage, but we don’t talk abot that. how about those ‘folk’ collecting 99 weeks of money to stay afloat? What other president did that? and the TArp money for people to build self employment? Who finally opened the doors to allw those black men doing all that federal time? Who is applying for that; not us.
    So when I see Tavis or Cornel marching down the streets of Washington DC, like I have, they can keep the rhetoric on Bill Maher, who also is buying into the “lets get Obama BS”.

    Hey in my “hood” you keep the family stuff in the “family”, you don’t give everyone food for fodder” as they are doing and that is what I believe Tom meant. I always loved and respected Cornel and never liked anything Tavis stood for, he is a gypsie, in my opnion and Cornel  must be reaching demetia stage to align his good name with that man.

    I like you Boyce, and I “argue” with you all the time….you just don’t know it

  • Sheri Townsend

    Re: Tom Joyner vs Tavis Smiley, Cornell West

    WOW! I read the article and a little over half of the responses. All of it reminds me
    Of a Bill Cosby episode(TV) show, where Dr Huxtabal and his wife, Claire were having trouble controlling their kids and eventually started fighting each other. At one point, they had to regroup to get things back under control. The “who’s is right and who ‘s wrong” debate has been with us throughout history, I.e. Dubois vs Booker T. Washington, Malcolm vs Martin, etc. All it really serves to do is point out FRUSTRATION. Blacks, hurting and concerned about their future, are displaying a feeling of powerlessness. Our so-called leaders are at each others throats because they either don’t have answers or the power of persuasion to be effective. So, we sound off. We attack. If not our leaders, we attack each other. It’s nothing new. Every man/ leader is an individual and can only bring to the table that which he perceives to be true. It would be uncanny if they all agreed. This does not mean they are jealous of each other, love black people less or are siding with the “enemy” trying to destroy us. Personally, I don’ t think Tom Joyner Is the “brightest bulb in the house”, but I admire his contributions as well as those of Mr. West, Mr. Smiley and President Obama. I understand that we need direction. The whole country needs direction! Still we can respect ourselves and each other by disagreeing without being disagreeable. keep working in your communities, push through programs that support you, tutor, mentor, work with groups that are against legislation that seeks to destroy your gains. Network with other groups to push through a common cause. The more you do, the less helpless you feel. A lot of activities were taking place in the south before King emerged. Three blacks ran for president before Obama. Change will come if we understand where our power is and how to use it. Though frustrated, we can affect positive change without the hate, fear and drama.
    S.T.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZBJCWPQD5NRVCOAGLGLDFHEQAA WhoCares

    Presently, I can’t think of any subject that divides black folks like that of President Obama. If you aren’t riding the Obama train than you’re a sellout-Period. The truth of the matter is that Obama followers are working or don’t understand politics@ all-that’s my experience. Everyone doesn’t want welfare and food stamps. Where do we find jobs? How can we feed our families? I have always questioned his position on African-Americans. When the Obamas left Chicago, it was clear-crystal clear that the state of our Black men was detrimental! Cook County jail is over populated with them not to mention a staggering amount of black women! The penial system is killing our families. Drug crimes plague the streets of Chicago, black on black crime unthinkable-poverty is undeniable! Funding cuts all from the bottom NEVER from the top. This is African-American life throughout the United States yet, his response is hold on. Unemployment? Hold on. Everything is about waiting!! The banks didn’t wait- Wall Street didn’t wait! The auto industry didn’t wait! Black folks have always waited-when will the wait be over? Tavis Smiley said from the very beginning that he would hold Every President accountable-well, surprise people! Barack Obama is a President and must be held to the same standards!!! Shame on Tom Joyner. If he wants to protect his seat @ the White House that’s fine but everybody isn’t a millionaire and can’t afford to look the other way.

  • Anti-theatrics

    Dr. Watkins lost me at ‘Hello':  “I remember Tavis Smiley telling Al Sharpton that he loved him right before he proceeded to attack him with the ferocity of an angry baby’s mama looking for additional child support.”

    Then commenter Shaka Zulu: “You’re talking like an emotional fool, sounding more like a woman who’s baby daddy said he was cutting the child support payments in half.”

    It is unfortunate that so-called intellectual black men, in their quest to levy the harshest insult default to comparing men to stereo-typical emotional single mothers.

    This alpha-male pissing contest is beyond boring. Wake me when any one of them are saying anything that’s not simply to further their own careers.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Tom Joyner.  Moreover to show support for his position. I’m unsubscribing to Our Black World to no longer support yours.  Peace.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Tom Joyner.  Moreover to show support for his position. I’m unsubscribing to Our Black World to no longer support yours.  Peace.

  • Mitch

    Dr. Boyce, I’m in Syracuse as well; we should talk.  I disagree with your premise here in supporting Smiley and West based on basically one thing.  One Smiley’s show recently he had West on, and West said “President Obama is basically a white man with brown skin.”  That was enough to justify everything Tom Joyner said because Tavis didn’t disagree with West when he said it, didn’t stand up for the president, and thus he pretty much indicated that he agreed with it.  Nope, can’t just let that kind of thing go on; it does give credence to white people that want to say the same types of things about the President. 

  • Reda StCyr

    I disagree  I think Smile, West an Boyce are out of line with their attacks on POTUS It makes me sick to hear them!

  • Milsmom

    I have been saying the same thing about Smiley & West that Joyner said for the last three years. I’m not homophobic, just observant. I had complete collections of both of their works. I recently burned that phony jebberish in my fire pit. The reason I watched my hard earned money go up in smoke was that I watched Smiley interview his “brother”, West last month on his PBS show. They truly disgussed me in their continued conversation of lies, envy and hate towards our President. It wasn’t criticism, it was a b_itch session. With the same spite of two ugly girls carrying on about the most popular one in school. If they have such love for black people, they have a horrible way of showing it. They write one thing and practice another. I had expected so much more of these two emerging supposed intellects among us. I am dissappointed and done with them and any of their work products. I am personally boycotting them both. I could go on, but others have done well in expressing what our community at large truely thinks of these two…NOT MUCH!

  • http://jeffwinbush.com/ Jeff Winbush

    f someone who doesn’t know you talks smack about
    you, ignore them. If someone you only have a passing familiarity with talks
    smack about you, you can probably ignore them. If someone who knows you
    and helped you achieve the level of success you enjoy talks smack about
    you, believe them. They know your virtues as well as your flaws. Tom
    Joyner knows Tavis Smiley and I believe Joyner.

  • Jack

    I can’t believe you actually have a job at Syracuse Boyce Watkins.  I have read your articles that they amount to something that should be left at the bottom of a bird cage. Your writings are a joke. Remind me to never send my child to Syracuse especially if you are in the classroom. Pathetic.  You are another one of these so-called experts on the Negro collecting your check from a white institution and keeping African-Americans in the mindest of victims. I will never come to this vile site again or invest an ounce of my time in reading your crappy writings. I hope Syracuse is not dumb enough to give you tenure. Your stuff is trash.

  • OntheBlackside

    A hundred years from now, both West and Smiley will not even be foot notes in Black History or great events that improved the lives of African Americans, while the election of Obama, and just as importantly, the wonderful job he has done in very difficult circumstances, is a major game changer.   It will be icing on the cake if Obama can get reelected.  Any black person trying to rain on this parade is doing harm to the African American community and should be held in distain.  At this point in our history, it is simply more important that Obama is successful than in promoting a narrow black-specific (if not black nationalist) agenda, or negative outbursts from a West/Smiley self centered, self promoting peanut gallery.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-James/893180452 Robert James

    I enjoy coming to this sight and reading the comments. I would like to ask all of the writer to read what Willie Lynch said about our people mostly because it is true. We as a people have no real respect for each other and our Black Professionals the most well educated are the worst.All of you are so white that you don’t have time to be Black and you sound terrible speaking about each other in public. I don’t care how much money you got break Willie Lynch back in his 200 year old grave stop acting like you have no soul or feelings for each other. you helped elect our first black President in still all White controlled America,now answer me this have you helped him since? White america has been beating president obama down since day one and all i see coming from Black professionals is some of the same treatment. mamanim is not proud of yall.

  • Anonymous

    Boyce is just as critical as those he mentions in this datribe.  He has bashed the president from Day 1.  I agree with Joyner 100%.  Neither Tavis nor Smiley have contributed anything to the Black community and neither has Boyce.  Talk is cheap and so are books.  Get lost and stop being the hypocrite that you are.  Your voice resonates with NO-ONE.

  • Qebenford

    Tom Joyner is not wrong. They (Smiley and West) have been jealious of, and have been attacking the President since he took office on the first day. They both have me wondering who is paying them to discredit the President. It is obvious to most of us that they are trying to sabatage the President. They were critical of him before he even had a chance to try and do anything. I think that both men are disgraceful.I am happy that someone finally said what most of us have been thinking. Thank you Mr. Joyner. Emma

  • Dangeruss

    Is this where all the obama fans come to party?  Talk about crushing any form of dissent towards the POTUS.  

  • Zela

    It’s amazing to me how the more educated we get, the more foolish we appear.  Black people are Americans!  If President Obama gets education assistance for all that includes us, health care for all includes us, jobs for all includes us.  He has to operate within the parameters of the times.  As the 1st Black President, he can not have a “Black Agenda.”  All of us should be intelligent enough to recognize that.  Do we have the right to question, critique and criticize him, yes!  But do it with respect!  We were taught to keep our dirty laundry at home.  Both Tavis and West have enough clout that if they wanted to help the President, they would talk to him directly…not go on national tv and give the pundits more weapons against him.  This is why we as a race are no further than we are….it’s always about me…especially if I have more than 1 pair of shoes now….I become the “somebody” to be reckoned with.  Tavis has been “pissed” since the campaign when Candidate Obama did not attend his “Think Tank.”  West seems to be upset about the inauguration.  They both seem petty.  What makes you think any of you can tell any of us how to think?!  I at least respect Tom for having the courage to go ahead and say what he feels about their behavior.  Some one in the Black community with the resouces  needed to say it.  And to those that want to mention King and X when discussing differing opinions, is it necessary.  Everyone of us has a different opinion, the question is can we have our opinion and support someone else’s that may be able to accomplish the goals of their opinion.  All these critics, why don’t some of you get in to hot seat and see how much you can accomplish for “our people”? 

  • Zela

    It’s amazing to me how the more educated we get, the more foolish we appear.  Black people are Americans!  If President Obama gets education assistance for all that includes us, health care for all includes us, jobs for all includes us.  He has to operate within the parameters of the times.  As the 1st Black President, he can not have a “Black Agenda.”  All of us should be intelligent enough to recognize that.  Do we have the right to question, critique and criticize him, yes!  But do it with respect!  We were taught to keep our dirty laundry at home.  Both Tavis and West have enough clout that if they wanted to help the President, they would talk to him directly…not go on national tv and give the pundits more weapons against him.  This is why we as a race are no further than we are….it’s always about me…especially if I have more than 1 pair of shoes now….I become the “somebody” to be reckoned with.  Tavis has been “pissed” since the campaign when Candidate Obama did not attend his “Think Tank.”  West seems to be upset about the inauguration.  They both seem petty.  What makes you think any of you can tell any of us how to think?!  I at least respect Tom for having the courage to go ahead and say what he feels about their behavior.  Some one in the Black community with the resouces  needed to say it.  And to those that want to mention King and X when discussing differing opinions, is it necessary.  Everyone of us has a different opinion, the question is can we have our opinion and support someone else’s that may be able to accomplish the goals of their opinion.  All these critics, why don’t some of you get in to hot seat and see how much you can accomplish for “our people”? 

  • http://twitter.com/Dasamota Daniel Asamota

    tavis smiley is an uncle tom negro who is gonna’ get a shower of tomatoes and rocks the next time he speaks publicly against the President. I’ve lost all respect for cornel west too. They both need to run back home to their mamas and let men take care of the business of men!

  • http://twitter.com/Dasamota Daniel Asamota

    tavis smiley is an uncle tom negro who is gonna’ get a shower of tomatoes and rocks the next time he speaks publicly against the President. I’ve lost all respect for cornel west too. They both need to run back home to their mamas and let men take care of the business of men!

  • http://twitter.com/Dasamota Daniel Asamota

    Everyone get those rotten tomatoes and rocks ready for the next time uncle smiley and westyboy speak.

  • http://twitter.com/Dasamota Daniel Asamota

    uncle boyce, you deserve a few tomatoes too! Don’t thinky I’ve forgotten about your pompous, arrogant, imperious ass! Just because you managed to get dr. in front of your name doesn’t make anything you say carry more weight! Who’s paying you to down the President? Who’re you whoring yourself out too fatboy?

  • Shpthompson

    Regarding Tom Joyner’s comments, he is closer to the truth about Dr. West and Mr. Smiley.  Both of these gentleman can point to any more work for Blacks than President Obama.  People make contributions and move on and it should be that way.  We do what we do and can do, but the “high profile” want accolades and awards.  I do believe these gentlemen have a streak of jealousy based on their approach of speaking out about the President’s recordson Black issues.  Where is there plan to help move Blacks from their current position.  Education is still our best life line and we are not pushing this with rigor that we should.  They both have access to forums that the everyday Black citizen doesn’t have.  We can help on a onesy-twosy basis or what we can do.  That’s what I do.  The energy used criticizing the President should be used to have forums for black people – educating them on issues, what is available to them, teaching them how to apply what is out there the best beneficial manner to them and their families.  Perfect example, people who use food stamps- buying TV dinners versus the food and cooking it,  I can afford to purchase in that way, yet, I know it is not cost effective and I don’t do it.  Most of these young unwed mothers on public assistance have never been taught how to stretch a dollar.  The simple things can help us until we get that job.  

    Every citizen have the right to criticize the President and Our Elected Officials but the other groups are addresing the small things that will help their people through the tough times. 

  • BeingHuman

    Boyce you are apparently on the side of S&W. I think Joyner has the right to express his views like you and myself. I am on the POTUS team. It amazes me how supposedly smart, thinking, well read black men can hate another because he is his own man. I say that to say he don’t need West or Smiley telling him what he needs to do, why didn’t they run for the office if they know so much. That man has more on his plate than any other President in the history of this country. But he is suppose to act like he is just black people leader. He has gotten it from Farrakhan, Jackson, West, Smiley, Steele, Cain, just to name a few of “free black men”.  All professors of love for the black race, hipocrites backbiters and jealous small minded individuals. What happens after the state of black union crap tavis and west host? NOTHING!! They sell useless books and pat each other of the back. And this garbage go on for days. They accomplish no thing. It’s all bullshit. Much like West is with the comment I called him brother, comrade. POTUS saw  West for what he was. An unkept, unshaven loud mouth who speak to impress himself, while attempting to be important. He is a professor, NOT  a Civil Rights Leader. Stay in your lane. While I am not homophobic one should view any 50 year old man never linked with a woman as suspect. Not that there is anything wrong with it, I’m just saying, besides West love white women, and Tavis is a black male.  

  • Anonymous

    Watkins, West and Smiley need to stop with the “LOVE” bs.

  • Casper

    Boyce,

    If we look at what our president has done it is formidable. And yes Tavis and Cornell are “Busters”. Keep talking Steve and TJ.

    Us real Africa Amercans and understand you as we can identify with you. How many of us can identify with the “Busters”???

  • Anonymous

    You guys have got to be out of your irrational ass minds! Firstly Barak Obama is not above criticism. He has thrown black people under the bus as he has made his trek to the presidency. In order to appear as race neutral and as Presidential. I understand the fevor and the adulation of having the First Black President. I ask what has he done to affect poverty in a concerted manner, as his biggest constituents his biggest voting block black people suffers the most! He threw his pastor Rev Wright under the Bus, He threw Minister Farakahn, under the bus, he never spoke out about Sean Bell when he was murdered, He never campaign for the Black mayoral candidate in New York gave him a “shout Out”, He tried to influence the first Black Governor who supported him forcing not to run!! He is far more symbolic than substance! He capitulates when the Tea party and Republic point there fingers in his Chest! You see Tom Joyner Reverend Al Sharpton and Steve Harvey enjoy having a place at the table and an invite when ask to the parties and can’t be objective. When did Black people give white folks license to disrepect us, that we can blame Black folks who critque our President? Barak Obama has made a lot of mistakes!

  • MGJ

    Dr. Boyce you are about as bad as your buddies Tavis and Cornel.  Both are hypocrites and you would be as well.  You and West LOVE those Ivy League schools dontcha…hypocrites.  Tavis LOVES sucking the teat of the corporations that rip the black community off.

    I am still waiting to find out who sponsored and paid for the bus trip to divide the black community.  Tavis is DEAD to many black people and rightfully so.  His “covenant” with the corporations has been exposed.  

    Cornel Jungle Fever West should just go somewhere and sit down.  He never met an Ivy League school he didn’t like.  

    HYPOCRITES…

  • koal blak

    I know many of you Guy’s are going to jump all over me for what I am about to say, but I have got to get this out. Before you level your hateration at me, please, just read what I have to say, then have at it. I welcome all that would set me straight where I may be mistaken in my judgments, or statements, where I have misspoken, or where I am just wrong.  Much of what Tom Joyner and Steve Harvey and others are saying, appears on the surface to be not only creditable, but also socially responsible responses that can be applied to any criticism of the president. Or, criticism of anyone that will shine a light on the plight of too many Blacks, and too many Poor People of all colors that have no hope except that which was placed on President Obama as the Black president. It is inescapable, Mr. Obama is a black man that is president. I say that because it seems that many will jump on that statement by saying that Mr. Obama is every ones President, not just the Black President, I cannot deny that he is, but so were they, “every ones president“, all those that were white and proceeded President Obama in that office. Were they not every ones president?? They were all White, look around, and see the difference that that WHITNESS has made in white peoples lives and in Black human Beings lives. Compare any vital statistic, economic, mental and physical health, pre natal death rate, you name it, you will readily see how being WHITE, and also the president of this country has helped the white community prosper, and also gain/add to the wealth they already had achieved through the slavery of Blacks and their free labor . True, the president is only one man, but one man that wields considerable power and influence as president.. Martin Luther King once said that “The true measure of a man is not how he behaves in moments of comfort and convenience but how he stands at times of controversy and challenges” ~ Who among you will argue that we have not arrived, right now, at that proverbial time of challenge. Many of you suggest that if somehow, President Obama were to apply any concerted effort to come to the aide of Black people, to help right the many many wrongs done to Blacks, and are still being done, (check out the incarceration rate of young black men) , and that If he were to use the bully pulpit of his office to bring attention to the plight of the homeless, the hungry and disenfranchised, that effort would hurt his run for the oval office. That criticism of the status que, would arm the talking heads with verbal ammunition to use against president Obama. It amazes me how easily you brand those voices that speak truth to power a sell out. I like comedy, but I like it in the proper context. These are serious times that we are living in, and I personally have little time for foolishness. In my estimate, the real sell out are those that have a platform, via the radio, or TV, mediums that most often allows one to talk and no one can talk back, and they use that platform to waste precious morning hours to fill our children and many older adults heads with foolishness. If you have a platform, and you do not use it to breathe life giving intelligence, wisdom and the truth into our young minds as they prepare for school and work, those are the sell outs.
    When you are comfortable, have a JAWB that is situated in the present economic system, and a place to call home, it will be probably be easy to agree with the statements of someone known as Fly Jock or comedian Steve Harvey, and others who follow their lead, and who, appear to me to be hating on Tavis and Dr West for at least trying to send out a clarion call to arms on the desperate situation of too many. Perhaps those in that category can hold out for another day, another month or year, or, until after the next presidential election before they seek change or relief. Those examples pointed out as programs the president has successfully moved forward, such as the Pell grant and other initiatives, would certainly support the rising tide/boat theory. And that’s good, because we need all of those initiatives, and so much more. But WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE TIDE RISES AND YOU DO NOT HAVE A BOAT?? Yes, the president is only one man, but it was only one man that sent troops to Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan and so many other places to squander blood and treasure, while our elders, the poor, the cities, the schools, hospitals and our Black communities go neglected.There are TENS of thousands of people that are homeless, sick, unemployed, and so many of our BLACK young men locked up in a racist prison industrial complex. Yes, I know, “If you do the crime……“ but if that is true, who should really be locked up for the crimes committed against humanity, mother earth and GOD in the name of greed???? There are so many of these that cannot wait another hour, or day. Many cannot hold on another month, another year, or until after the next election. We have lost many, and will lose many more, unless someone takes a stand, draws a line in the sand and declare, Enough!. Thank you Tavis and thank you Dr West for your assistance in drawing that line. Many here assign their motives to personality conflict, while other say that they are missing the big picture and through their voice, they are hurting the president. Somehow the hope for change that so many had when Mr. Obama won the seat is no longer an issue. From where I sit, it is business as usual. Who sent bombs into LIBYA to kill another black man, and destroy a country that did not have any homeless, where all had free health care, and had not lifted a finger to hurt this country? Who it is that did not bring anyone to Account for the lives destroyed, the billions, given and lost, to and by the greedy Bankers, Warmongers, and wall street executives that created this economic mess, while they got fat?? ??
    We are fast losing our children through senseless violence, we are losing our strong black families that were once the bedrock of the black community, and we are losing our minds. We all, Black and white, are living with the consequences of four hundred plus years of slavery, Jim crow, and untold atrocities committed against blacks by whites and a recalcitrant government. All to the benefit of whites and to the destruction of Blacks. In my opinion, it is only right for the president of this country, regardless to who that maybe, President Obama, Bush or whoever, to do what is right and address the needs of ” The least of these” . It is only right in the minds of sane and normal people that the many, many wrongs be righted. There should never be compromise in doing what is right.
    If I had the presidents ear, I would tell him to do what is right. I would tell him to help the needy, the poor and the misused, the abused and those that have suffered the most. Use your voice, your office and everything that is in you to help Right the many wrongs. If you cannot do it all, do what you can, but do something! Bring the troops home, and all the money being spent on war should now be used to help rebuild the infrastructure of black lives, and the infrastructure of this country. Today as I listened to the news about the wildfires raging in Texas, the announcer stated assuredly the following quote from President Obama; “ I guarantee that funds will be available to meet your needs”. There was no mention of “I have to go to Congress!” There was no mention of “I am only one man, I can’t do this alone.” No, he did what he knew was right.Mr. president, When you do what is right, you can never lose. By not holding the president accountable to live up to his campaign promises, by not bringing attention in order to help the poor, many of whom were not poor a short while ago, by not stopping the senseless wars, and to do what is right, you do president Obama, this country and the whole world a great disservice. If by righting these wrongs, president Obama loses the next election, it will not be because he did what was right, but because of the robber barrens, the greedy, and those that want to maintain the status que, and especially to many of you who think that Tavis and Dr West should stand alone, be hated on and criticized for their efforts. Just as Jesus was, just as Malcolm was, as Muhammad Ali was , and just as DR King was because they did what was right, and because, at the time it was politically correct to hate on them. Just do what is right, and fcuk the personality BS. Just think of the difference it would make if we all stood together, on the RIGHT side of that line in the sand by saying ENOUGH! LETS DO WHAT IS RIGHT!!!!

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  • Jeddta5

    At the end of the day West goes home to his 3rd white wife and Tavis goes home to his mansion. Instead of criticizing the President, why don’t these two black men teach young boys and girls how to accomplish what they have accomplished (status quo) Their time would be better served by making a DENT IN THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP not criticizing the President!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=574761427 Renee Criswell

    Many of you are blaming blacks for being the cause of their
    own problems; that goes against the evidence. Listen to the words of Dr. King
    and learn something! Additionally, don’t hate those that choose to tell the
    truth as they see it. Disprove what they are saying, if you can; but if what
    they are saying is true, work to make a change for the better.

  • mary l. Brown

    what is happening to our country.  It seems that when President Obama was elected our President, everyone was very upset about it.  I’m talking about all the “white people” who are scared that black people are moving faster than they thought.  I know that we still have a long way to go but I know that we came from a dark place in our history.  So to all those haters out their.  You can’t stop us now or ever.  Can’t you see that we were made from a special type of material.  We are not like you.  Jumping out the window when you can get the money.  Taking more drugs than black people would ever take.  History said that time repeats itself but this time it’s last will be first and the first will be last.  Think about!

  • Tricia :

    These stuck up, poorly speaking Toms, including the author of this article…can’t shine Obama’s shoes with their tongue. Jealousy and gay hatred are the reasons for their vitriol. They are under the spell of “Miss Hilary” and mad that Obama sees through their act. West and Smiley are each other’s Bust it Babies and Boyce is the side piece to their sodomite act.