Dr. Boyce: Al Sharpton and Cornel West Faceoff Once Again

The National Newspaper Association took advantage of what some expected to be a major prize fight between Cornel West and Rev. Al Sharpton.  The group referred to their gathering at the annual convention of the National Newspaper Publishers Association as “The Showdown,” letting the world know that they expected Sharpton and West to draw blood, as they did in the past.  Such heated discussion is certainly necessary (I’ve had my battles with Sharpton over a few key issues), but both Sharpton and West are mature enough to realize that vicious language and fighting are simply not the way to get things done.

Both men continue to remain at odds over whether or not the Obama Administration is doing enough for the African American community.  Sharpton supports President Obama in nearly every way imaginable, and West spends his time with Tavis Smiley, a man who undermined his own access to legitimate criticism by engaging in what many perceived to be very personal attacks on the president back in 2008.

Sharpton, being the intelligent diplomat that he is, immediately squashed any expectation that there would be a nasty showdown between he and Professor West.

”I want to get (something) out of the way early,” said Sharpton. ”Folks have been saying that Cornel West and I are going to have a ‘showdown’ today.” If you’re looking for a circus ”there’s a Chicago zoo,” he said.

During the conversation, Professor West encouraged Rev. Sharpton to use his access to the White House to raise the issues of black unemployment, mass incarceration, and the needs of poor children.  Sharpton, of course, reminded West that he’s been fighting for the rights of the poor since day one.

Personally, I was happy to see that both men elevated the discussion, and when Sharpton and I spoke on the phone a few weeks ago, we were in agreement that this kind of blowup is not good for the black community.   I also let him know that I agree that Professor West hurt his own powerful arguments by making any mention of his personal issues with President Obama.  It must be noted, however, that having a personal issue with someone does not invalidate your critique altogether, and I am still waiting for one of the campaigners within the Obama Administration to prove that Professor West was wrong (as they come dancing by to beg for a vote that many people feel they never earned).

”The mainstream media has played up a lot of strife and exploited Rev. Sharpton and Prof. West and used their disagreement for their own purposes,” said outgoing NNPA chairman Danny Bakewell. ”We wanted to have a discussion in an environment where we would print (a firsthand account) from our own perspective.”

As it pertains to the Great Black Divide being caused by the Obama Presidency, it is important to remain focused on a few key facts:

1) Sharpton and West both mean well, but they are not without their biases.  It’s hard to imagine Rev. Sharpton criticizing the Obama Administration on almost any issue of importance, and it’s also hard to imagine West and Smiley being satisfied with anything short of actions that might mean political suicide for Obama.  Given that both groups have camped out on their personal ideological turf, I can’t imagine any of this changing before the 2012 elections.  Room must be given for us to have reasonable expectations of our president, but we must also accept the possibility that the president with dark skin is simply part of the establishment…..Barack may not care about you as much as you care about him.

2) Whether or not the Obama Administration is doing enough for the black community is certainly debatable.  But one thing we know for sure is that Washington politicians, as a collective, are DEFINITELY not doing enough for African Americans and care little about eliminating racial inequality.  I receive emails daily from people who are losing their homes, losing their jobs and wondering how their children are going to eat.  A recent Your Black World survey showed that 38% of African Americans have lost their jobs in the last three years, and another 24% have lost their homes.  Rather than focusing on solving the problem, the elitists in Washington are more concerned about who gets blamed for it.  The lack of accountability is simply appalling.

3) I see almost nothing about the 2012 presidential elections that inspires me as an African American.  No matter who gets elected, black families will remain decimated by the mass incarceration epidemic, black men and women will still suffer joblessness that doubles that of white Americans, and most poor children will continue to be left without the necessities to survive (a recent study showed that children on public insurance can’t even get access to a doctor when they are seriously ill).  This calls for creative action that goes beyond worrying about who sits in the White House, since the last three years have made it clear that the color of the president only matters when his face is on the cover of Essence Magazine.  This is no disrespect to Barack Obama, but it reminds black folks that we cannot be manipulated by political mind games that somehow make us believe that any man or woman in the White House is going to improve our day-to-day existence.  The evidence is simply not there.

4) All political parties should be invited to submit solutions to the black unemployment crisis.  Personally, I am willing to listen to any political figure who desires to get the black vote and can keep campaign promises (a bit rare in American politics).  The notion that we should support the Democrats simply because the Republicans are going to be worse is like giving us the choice between eating horse manure and rotten eggs.  It’s hard to imagine anyone being excited about either dish, so the best decision may be to walk away from the table and learn how to cook for yourself.  Coalition building, political education and empowered advocacy are the only solutions for the black community right now, and I personally look to objective political experts like Dr. Wilmer Leon at Howard University (who succeeds the late Ron Walters as a key figure in navigating the political process) as guides to understanding how to manage the massive machine of Washington politics.  No politician should be allowed to rely on irrational emotionality to obtain our vote and must instead provide hard facts and evidence that they are worthy of our support – in other words, falling in love with any politician is a generally bad idea – it’s like trying to get married to Wal-Mart.

I’m glad that Rev. Sharpton and Professor West got together for another conversation.  Now, all of us must have conversations and engage in the political evolution necessary to ensure that we are not controlled and deceived by the selfish and myopic Ivy League graduates planted out on Capitol Hill.  We must all make the best decisions for our families, and right now, the politicians in Washington “ain’t sayin nothin worth listenin to.”

Dr. Boyce Watkins is a Professor at Syracuse University and founder of the Your Black World Coalition.  To have Dr. Boyce commentary delivered to your email, please click here.

 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

    As I have been repeating,  Al “payoff” Sharpton and messy Jesse Jackson are managers of the pain and suffering of black people and will not solve our problems to put themselves out of business…These people have never seen an opportunity within the black suffering not to make a profit for themselves…These negroes are a disgrace to us and it’s time we lift their dresses and expose their bare asses…If Bro Malcolm was alive today, he would call both of these bottom feeders, house negroes which is a nice way of calling these well dressed and fed sambos, niggers…

    • Ronniesaunders

      Shakka Zulu: Mr. Sharpton and the Rev. Jesse Jackson have been pimping Black people  and our issues for years. Old Rev. Al has to be on the White House payroll he wouldn’t out there supporting the fake tan puppet in the Oval Office for his health.
       Sadly a majority of so-called national Black leaders like Sharpton in their pandering to white officials and establishment powers, have sold their families and traded their souls for a dry bone from the master’s table and the honor of currying favor with whites in power.
      Indeed Sharpton, Jackson, and that fake puppet in the Oval Office would be called “House Servants” by Bro Malcolm.
      West is correct in his  anaylsis of the failed Obama Presidency and now Obama is sending out his “Lap Dog” Sharpton to sale us on his weak ass record.

      • Anonymous

        @56a731d7c1c00cc7fa7e23b21c98b5a0:disqus  You have read how wealthy ‘whites’ fight to get their babies in the proper nurseries and the toddlers and teens into the best schools? They prepare their people well in advance for what’s to come if they have wealth and have been primed to do so.

        I BELIEVE MR. OBAMA WAS A PRIMED CHILD. I believe that it was not by accident that a white woman had him from a full blooded African, and that man was a product of a program to educate some Africans in the U.S., and once his job was done he could leave her to raise the child amongst an all white family, and he was watched and nurtured all through his life, and his education, and world travel was also important to these Anglo-Elite.

        IT SOUNDS FAR FETCHED until you understand that these diabolical people who continue to overwhelm whole countries, and destroy the leaders, are not well ahead of the game on many levels.

        I also believe that they released MANDELA from prison because the world embargo against apartheid in South Africa was causing them to lose too much. The smartest thing they did was to release a powerful man they had imprisoned for 27 years and allow him to be the president. Now their money is back and the South Africans are somewhat appeased. As far as we know that is, but  remember, that the Anglos are well advanced in their planning and schemes. How else can they take our tax and resource wealth and give it themselves, and make us believe they are doing everything for our own good!
        As it is, the men who have been able to gain notoriety by getting the corporate media to talk about them are fortunate enough to make it, even if they can do nothing for the ‘black’ masses, or the people of ‘America’ in general. We will continue to be caught up in this very bad position and they will be lucky to be careful not to trip over their own accomplished notoriety. You can thank the elite-corporate media for promoting them just as it promotes people like Palin, and Limbaugh, and Hannity ,and Connerly, etc.You can understand that they can only do so much, or go so far before they cross the line. If they cross the line they will be dealt with severely by these same people who made them famous. That is how Obama survives too. He is guaranteed success as long as he doesn’t do anything disallowed. He was never to serve us he was to serve the elite just as all politicians, government officials, and other wealth and famous citizens do.
        Most people could never conceive nor comprehend what is actually occurring right before them, while others seem to care less.

    • Anonymous

      @facebook-1379420279:disqus Brother I have been trying to keep up with your righteous comments. I can see the love you have for us in your comments. I think that you and I have reached areas around the same levels of sociopolitical world consciousness, but as in every mental process, humans rarely connect all of the dots, or tie all the strings completely. Where I may be enlightened more on some aspects you will be lessor, and where your enlightenment will be broader elsewhere I will be lacking. On this note. I understand your frustrations because they are also mine.
      Your frustrations explode on the expressions of the two religious leaders Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Your view of them is expected because you cannot understand what they are doing and how they got from being seriously caring ‘black’ men to becoming men who have both tried their hand at being politicians.
      Remember that politicians are not to be trusted period! Also remember that somewhere in all their greedy, power grabbing process there is still an area in the back of their consciousness that tells them they might be able to get at least a little done for the people. Yet somewhere along the line they have forgotten what a ‘black hole’ the political spectrum is, and how once you’re sucked in you may profit without helping the people, but the minute you cross the line to help, you’re screwed.

      They both seem to believe they may still have a chance to help people as they help themselves to the wealth and power so close but illusive to them. Jesse’s son has crossed that political plateau and he has become almost invisible as he sucks off the nation’s tax tit and whatever corporate-elite tits available. That said, we must remember that these men are trying to do something for us, but all of the forces of the Anglo-Elite ‘white supremacist’ machine are against them, but will offer them prosperity and a tad-bit of power if they don’t rock the boat, but will stump them asunder if they do!

      Think about the Tutsi and Hutu of Rwanda. These people were psychologically induced to attack each other, this was no fluke! The French along with the U.S. Anglo-Elite planned this well in advance of the French finally leaving the country to it’s people. The hatred for ‘blacks’ is evident everywhere you look, but most people aren’t actually looking, nor can they see the bigger picture if they were, in most cases. It truly takes very close observation, with a previously gained knowledge base of information concerning our plight and that of the African Diaspora.

      All this to say. Think about what it means to call these ‘black’ political wannabe’s out of their names in such a way as to denigrate and demoralize them in such a way. One of the methods of ‘The Art of War’ is to divide, conquer and destroy!

      Remember Rwanda?The Hutu’s and Tutti’s were reduced to calling each other ‘Roaches’ as they murdered and raped each other. These beautiful black people who lived in harmony before the French took their nation, used their differences to divide and conquer them, then built up such hatred to turn them against each other, but not before they equipped the side they had kept down, with the weapons to kill the side they had promoted in status.

      This Euro-centric weapon of divide and conquer has been used thoughout their history of rape and pillage, and it is used quite effectively today in every aspect of our lives and against peoples (of color) all over the world. Everywhere you look you can see it. Then you can start connecting the dots and tying the strings that show you the ever growing picture of deceit, division, backstabbing, enslavement, pillaging and plundering.

       With Sharpton and Jackson, you would be calling the wrong people vile names, but if it vents your frustration brother, then so be it. As far as Malcom and Martin. It is specifically because they wouldn’t bow-down, why they are no longer alive. Assassination or incarceration why we will never have a viable ‘black’ leader to lead us.

    • Cwrhodes3513

      Are you really black?  Your screen name is a dead give away!!!!a

      You sound like a plant to keep the dialog going while using racial slurs to bash our President and other blacks.  I don’t believe you are black!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

        Well i’m one hundred percent black and have no intention of pretending to be something that ‘m not unlike your President, who’s pretending to be one of the common people while enjoying the lifestyle of royalty…You might be the one who’s the plant, what racial slurs did I use again Obama? If you expect me to fawn over him, no that’s not my style for anyone who’s a human like me who’s just ripping off the public to make a good living…

  • Makarios72

    The virtue of the democratic party is that it has countless ideas, solutions, factions, and agendas.  It is also its biggest flaw.  We are never able to settle on one path, point or direction.  So, along with all of these ideas comes too many voices, arguments, and chiefs.  The republican party (of which I am NOT a  fan) manages to stand on one idea much better.  The problem is that the one idea that stand on will NEVER address the problems of black America.  If you think that this is untrue I would have to ask, “what world are you living in?”

    The democratic party will never be able to get much accomplished because when we get a morsel of power we want everything done immediately.  To expect anything more that incremental change is not only ridiculous, it is absolutely a pipe dream at best!  This president can most likely not be more than a step in the right direction.  His moves have to be so slow and measured as to not sound some imaginary alarm which would send us back 40 years.  Question..  Did we actually expect wholesale change to be a remote possibility??  If you did again I would have to ask, “what world are you living in?”

    Here is what I appreciate about President Barack Obama…  He is a patient, thoughtful, and steady leader who has been pushed, prodded as much by his own party as the one not in the white house at present.  With everyone eating at his flesh he has managed to maintain a decent sense of humor and focus.  His measured approach demonstrates to me a character that many of us do not possess.  Has he made the best decisions every time for me?  No.. Not yet, but I am sorry I am not willing to hand the reigns over to the Tea Party or any other faction of the conservative movement.  I am willing to hold out that in the end this journey/path we are on will lead to my betterment.  Contrary to all of the negative voices/noise I hear in the Democratic Party I am willing hold on to my reasonable confidence in this man.  I don’t agree with Dr. Watkins…  I believe he does care.

    Yet, having said all that I have, I still believe that some voice of criticism is necessary.  I just think we go way too far. 

  • Brook

    The focus is not on whether Obama is good or bad.  The focus should be on finding politicians who can help our people deal with this damn recession. 

    • Queenofmeanest

      Both parties are full of crap.  No politician wants to take on the recession without committing political suicide.

    • Anonymous

      @b6754121b38f18d0555df00eb4c3238e:disqus : The economic position we are in is no accident. There are a few books that inform of this happening in advance. My favorite was written by a ‘white’ man named ‘William Cooper’, the title ‘Behold A Pale Horse’. In his book he wrote “Because I’m a member of the secret society and have sworn to keep this secret I will probably be killed”. He was an ex-Naval Intelligence Officer, who revealed the intentions and machinations (among many other things), of the secret societies. Shortly after GW Bush became president, federal police killed him at his ranch.

      All this to inform you that there are no politicians who will ever remedy our problems. They don’t have the power nor the will to rock the boat. Their intentions are to gain a bit of wealth and power. If lying is what they must do then so be it!

    • Cwrhodes3513

      The problem is…people stayed at home during the mid-term election.  Which is what the tea baggers were counting on…and African Americans gave them their victories!  If the same people that elected President Obama had gotten out to vote and send him some help…maybe we would be in better shape today.  To those that didn’t vote in November 2010…just take a look in the mirror and see why the President’s hands are tied while the GOP/Baggers work towards making him a one term president by causing failure to his administration. 

      Think we are in trouble now…imagine Michelle Bachman as president…the Tea Bagger candidate!  Close your eyes and invision her as president…can you see it?

      Keep Obama bashing like the GOP/KKK/Baggers and you may get what you want and lose what you have!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QOJQQIPMNVFQMGLZMVTNEOJV4I MGJ

    Shakka if Malcolm were alive today he would be no different so quit living in the past.  YOU have no idea what would have transformed Malcolm.  He had already gone through one MAJOR transformation when he saw his white, blue eyed brothers during his Hajj.  

    Black folks need to quit bitching and help themselves.  What has Cornel West EVER, EVER done to help anybody black except sit his black ass on panels and write books…that goes for Tavis Smiley and the rest of the professional black panel sitters.  All they do is TALK.  

    They have been talking about the same things since I can  remember and have guess what?  NOTHING.

    Tell me something you black ass lazy, backstabbing black folks…what did Reagan, Bush I, Bill Clinton, Bush II do for your black asses? THING except make your lives more miserable because they surely did not make it better.  Oh yeah, our great “first” black president did more to hurt black men than  anybody else.  His disproportionate sentencing allowance for crack/cocaine was a real help wasn’t it?  Bill’s repeal of the banking laws for the republicans is what created the “too big to fail” banks.  Oh yeah and let me not forget good old NAFTA that Bill signed into law for Bush I that promptly sent thousands and thousands of jobs out of the country beginning with Mexico.

    So, please spare me the “nigger” crap because I am so sick of it.  Look at our young black men and women and tell me they give a damn with their hoochie mama clothes and boys with pants showing all their ass.  Talk about a lost generation…thank God these are not the people we had to depend on to get our civil and voting rights passed. And all of that is again under assault by the republican party…

    Get a clue go do something to help somebody black get on their feet and quit bitching and expecting the government to help.

    Lastly, I find the black community to be lacking in compassion for each other, lacking in standing together to build a better community, and those with the “means” to be lacking in   putting together financial programs to help blacks succeed in business, politics or whatever they want to do to improve their lives.

    President Barack Obama cannot fix all the problems in this country.  They were here long before him and they will be here after he is gone…

    Stop expecting him to be our Savior…save your own damn people…

    • FaiCole

      I am in agreement with much of what you say. You would think that Obama was the ONLY official in Washington. All we hear about is what Obama isn’t “doing for Black people”. In the meanwhile, I’ve yet to hear Tavis or Dr. West (who I genuinely like but disagree with on this issue) hold any elected officials responsible for “not doing anything for Black people”. White folks know that all politics is local. Obama organized Chicago communities. Where’s the current crop of community organizers? Who’s gonna take the place of ACORN now that Black elected officials stood on the sidelines and let Republicans strip the organization of funds?

      Obama is only ONE of 435 elected officials. If folks were as willing to critize and denigrate their local and congressional reps as loudly and viciously as Shaka and Ronnie are doing Obama (to the point of calling him names – talking about juvenile!) we would see “change we can believe in” because WE would be the change agents. “It takes a great carpenter to build a barn. Any JACKASS can tear one down.”

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

        There are 535 legislative members in congress (100 senators, 435 congressional representatives)…When Obama went into office he controled both houses and as the leader of his party he should have shown leadership and do what the people who elected him wanted and not what his doners asked from him…he’s weak, does not have any leadership skills and it’s time you people look beyond the black/brown face and see him for being a damn politician looking out for his best interest and could give a damn about you or me…When the hell has politics only done anything to relieve our sufferings in the hell hills of North America? You people are still on these party plantations of democratis v republicans and are not seeing that these people are all about themselves..Where the hell is the Congressional Black Caucus? Doing what all politicians do, get a taste of power, are soliciting campaign donations to stay in office and could give a damn about what any of us are suffering…For the first time in history we have a black man, first generation African American, bombing the African Continent and assisting the Euopeans and Asians in the reinvasion of the continent…The white man has done a real snow job on some of you negroes, putting a black face as the leader of “the free world”, while whitey continues to plunder Africa and have blacks and latinos fight each other over jobs and housing, something they have absolutely no control over but whitey created these artificial issues to have us fight over this mess created by whitey…When you allow yourselves to be used by whitey to supress black people I will call you out, Sharpton is the attack dog for the WH and can see nothing wrong with this WH ignoring black people and our issues…Sharpton pimped himself out by allowing Obama to kick off his re-election campaign at NAN’s convention, he’s steady trading black votes to keep himself relavant and in the money…Malcolm might have soften his stance about whitey after making the Hajj, but he still viewed them as the problem and not the solution since he was using them by way of the UN to plead black peoples human rights issues for reparations…I have no illusions about any of the forty four presidents that occupied that oval office, they are there strickly for the corporations interest, and it does not matter if you’re purple, if you put yourselves into the presidential cesspool for fame and fortune you will get shit on yourselves and will also smell like shit…

        • Scoop

          “For the first time in history we have a black man, first generation
          African American, bombing the African Continent and assisting the
          Euopeans and Asians in the reinvasion of the continent.”  <-Now that's a FACT!

          • Come on man!!

            The leader of this African country that is being bombed (Khadafi) is killing Africans by the numbers and you are defending him??  Give me a break!!  He has no regard for the lives of people of dark complexion.  We are so mixed up I am really tired of all of this rhetoric.  Give me some solutions instead of bitching so much!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

            Prove to me that he Gadaffi is killing black people? He’s the the only Black/Arab leader in North Africa that did not decide to join the Europeans to kill their people like the Saudi’s and all the other Arabs and African Leaders have done to get a buck…When you have Europeans invading your country it’s because you’re not doing their bidding…If it was not for Gadaffi and Castro, Mandela would still be in prison and South Africa under apartheid rule…He did more to help the African Continent that any European or American who’s main goal is to exploit the people…If whitey have exploited us in the US what makes you think they are going to be benevolent to Africa which they have always used as their out house?

    • Anonymous

      Thank you!!!  This was well said.  I too am so sick of hearing about what Obama has not done for Black folks.  Get off your butts and help yourself!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Thank you!!!  This was well said.  I too am so sick of hearing about what Obama has not done for Black folks.  Get off your butts and help yourself!!!!

    • Makarios72

      I too am in agreement MGJ with of what you said…  Some of the language is kind of counter productive, (I refuse to even comment on what Shakka Zulu and Ronniesaunders had to say) but you made your point. 

      One more thing, I will always err on the side of is this…  I have love for my people (Shakka Zulu and Ronniesaunders are my people too)  and I am not going to put them down like they did some of our leaders even though I think their comments are completely off base!

    • Anonymous

      @yahoo-QOJQQIPMNVFQMGLZMVTNEOJV4I:disqus  You have an interesting perspective on the condition of our people. The problem is (as it always is with many of us) is that you are missing all of the relevant pieces that give more insight as to why, why, why this is, as it is. Why ‘black’ people are still relegated to the lowest denomination in this Anglo-dominant social climate. There are so many reasons, but in order to gain some proper perspective you must endeavor to read the right books on these subjects, and subjects which connect to our plight, and the blight of ‘blacks’ across the African Diaspora.
      You might begin by reading all of Randal Robinson’s books, starting with ‘An Unbroken Agony’.
       Reading a host of material might help if you are in the right frame of mind to accept this information, but there is so much more to consider, especially the psychosocial aspects of our society and as it pertains to ‘blacks’. There are, as there always has been, many racist based instruments working against us that many of us either cannot ,refuse to, or are ill equipped to see. That is to be expected given the great turmoil we have been, and are constantly exposed to.

      This U.S. political machine was never devised to incorporate ‘blacks’ and it continues to rip us to pieces without our collective understanding or acknowledgement of how and why. Even after great study some would still find this difficult to understand, so imagine the 30 to 40 million who don’t/won’t seriously study these issues, and cannot grasp the idea that we are constantly being played in a great number of ways. You can look at Africa and think that they are doing bad things to themselves, but as you think this, try to remember the history of America as the Europeans began to take it and what lengths they went to, to annihilate the natives here. Imagine what South Africa was like before the Dutch and British took it. The examples as to why we are in this condition in the U.S. is seen by paying close attention to what the Anglos are doing across the African-Diaspora as they pillage the continent, as they pillage the whole world!

      Any ‘black’ leaders respected and powerful enough to reach the masses to properly inform them are purposely shut down. Any ‘black’ nation leader who doesn’t turn over his nation’s wealth to these Anglo-Elite is destroyed. We will have no unity, and we will have no collective understanding of our plight!

      • Hotdog090

        Exactly!! Dr Henry Clark said it best, “You show me your ignorance and lack of education by telling me what you haven’t read!” Foolish people merely look at the fruit as opposed to the root of the cause. 

        • Anonymous

          It is what the elite count on, but not only do they count on the "foolishness" and ignorance of the masses, they employ devices into the society that guarantees things stay that way. They rarely allow room for their plans to go wrong and when they see a 'leak in a dike' somewhere, they quickly rush to shore it up in any way they must. The people are to remain dumbfounded, ignorant, poorly educated and passive. This one of the reason education is becoming more difficult to receive, The elite are always in favor of "killing two birds with one stone". The sap the tax wealth from reduced education benefits and the people are left so much more uneducated, ignorant, and dare I say 'retarded'.
           Jimmie W. Johnson-Gadson

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          • Makarios72

            I am somewhat amazed at the level of skill and cunning you attribute to the “anglo-elite”!!  Based on your assessment not only will things never change, we also have no hope either!! 

            I refuse to accept your premise.  I refuse to allow you or any other person to so totally map out the control my destiny that I sink to a state of nihilism and depression.  This would lead me to a state of lawlessness which would eventually land me in a place of incarceration or worse.  Should we just kill ourselves?  Or should we take up arms and declare a race war??  I really want to hear your solution to the plight of Black America,

          • Anonymous

            I don’t mean to offend anyone or cause anyone grief and sorrow for themselves. I only mean to drag out the facts and lay them bare on the table for all to see. I’m not advocating we should roll up in a big ball and die. I merely want to create more open minded thought processes.
            The Anglo-Elite are very powerful. The have made it to this point where they can attack other countries without anyone stopping them, and tell any kind of boldface lie without anyone batting an eye. They can put buffoons in office without hesitations and they can attack our buildings and steal our economic wealth and place blame wherever they please!
            I’m saying that they have disemboweled the whole country, but have a special distastes for ‘blacks’  to a point that they are quietly and systematically annihilating us across the diaspora.
            Now what you do with this information is up to you, but you must maintain a strong constitution to deal with the ultimate reality of our existence.

    • Jimmybean080

      If you read the new biography of Malcolm written by the late great Dr. Marble Manning, I can say assuredly that Malcolm X would not have fallen for the Obama mascaraed as we have today. The only difference between Obama and Bush is that under the Obama administration there is more then 1 dick in the white house.

      • guestestwitthebestest

        I don’t understand this post.  Do you mean to imply that Michelle Obama has a wang?

        • Hotdog090

          It’s a reference to two things; first the MSNBC commentary, the second is to President Obama’s cabinet and fiscal advisory team who caused the economic collapse under the Bush administration and  continuing it under the Obama administration. Please look up the documentary “The Inside Job.”  Additionally “Capitalism A Love Story,” is another well written documentary highlighting the economic conditions leading to the loss of millions internationally. For some odd reason I think Michelle is a beautiful woman.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

      What the hell has Sharpton and Jackson done for black people? I have seen nothing gained by black people playing in this political cesspool called politics except you come out smelling like shit..I look at all the immigrant groups who have come to this country and seem to make a nice living off us while we sit back and wait for the government to give us a job or these poverty pimps who also are preachers, do nothing but chase ambulances to make a living off the sufferings of black people and other peoples of color…I see the Koreans who came to this country sixty years ago and took over the black hair care business in less than forty; Indians, Arabs and Pakistanis who have taken over the corner grocery stores and gas stations in our communities, Chinese with their nasty foods and bad behavior in our communities and a I see all black folks braking their necks and waiting in lines to be poisoned and insulted by these immigrant groups…These people are building up their economic base and could care less about who the damn president or representatives are, we have been sold a bag of goods about running after these politicians while neglecting our communities and allowing other people who don’t look like us, drain all the resources from us, apparantly we have money because every ethnic groups comes into ur communities and make their money, while not contributing anything to our infrastructure…We have always been out here on our own, why pay for a straw man do do what we can do for ourselves? I don’t trust any POLITICIANS, PREACHERS, or anyone who dont look like me claiming to want to help me…The europeans will not fund or educate you to take over their business and put them out of work or to out compete their children…Get  grip…

      • Cwrhodes3513

        The difference with the immigrants IS they stick together!  We are the only race that fight against each other.   Immigration reform will fix that…if we could get it passed through the racist Congress.  It is not realistic to believe that we can ship all immigrants back from whence they have come from…but we can stay focused and get as many people out to VOTE to get rid of the right-wing bigotry that will do nothing except help the rich get richer at the expense of the poor/workingclass Americans.  That is our only voice!

    • Cwrhodes3513

      I feel your passion and I totally agree with you!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Avisjay-Savisti/617630819 Avisjay Savisti

      I posted this, but it disappeared on me. Please excuse if shown as a repost.

      The sad thing is that it’s business as usual even with Obama as President. The truly sad reality is that none of us recieved the hoped for “I told you so” moment that we wished would crush the pessimism that lurked in the back of our minds during Obama’s Presidency.

      As the record shows, pretty much nothing has changed in the Black Community. And now Black America sees that it controls it’s own fate. Super-Negro isn’t coming! If you’re extremely overweight, would you cry out, “someone needs to help me lose weight”. And some actually do! And in 100% percent of those cases those persons will die from their obesity. It’s until you stop looking “outward” for help and realize nothings going to get done unless YOU DO IT. Unless you break the cycle.

      And it’s a hard thing to do! But sometimes your survival is dependent on you doing so. And it’s the same in the Black Community. I mean, we’re flying pass a rock heading to the bottom of the lake like it was standing still. Everyone knows the problem. But how many still allow their children (and friends of their children) to play active role in the very things we complain about?

      Quote from MGJ:
      “What has Cornel West EVER, EVER done to help anybody black except sit his black ass on panels and write books…that goes for Tavis Smiley and the rest of the professional black panel sitters. All they do is TALK.”

      First Cornell West is an highly revered educator in African American Studies. To suggest his role is insignificant would be absolutely ridiculous! Everyone is in agreement that the lack of knowing and understanding of our history is one of the “key” problems in Black America.

      And the fact is we need more intelligent people that are knowledgable about these issues to put them on the table. He’s doing his part in my opinion. To look for him to do more than he’s already doing would be the same as hoping Obama would save Black America. Truthfully this dialog needs to be in our public schools. To get our kids thinking and understanding to “realities” of life and the uniqueness of being African American in this country and not the MTV bullsh*t they digest as being real. Because we’re “not” all the same(at least not here). Any immigrant getting off a boat that has never been to the U.S. already knows where you should go to buy drugs, where the worst schools are, what neighborhoods have the highest crime rate, who has the highest STD rate and the best place to step up a simple small business. We need to stop being apologetic, “go along to get along” Negroes. And demand “Real Talk” subjects in our community schools. That our children want to come home and talk about these issues.

      I know it’s easy to become extremely frustrated when the despair we’re facing is realized. But more voices need to be heard. Cornell West in my eyes is doing what Malcolm and Martin did by talking and reasoning with the people. The issue is unlike them, we’re afraid to preach to those that really don’t want to hear it (that’s why we get on these forums, but most won’t carry the passion outside of it).

      Think of it this way, how did you become a Christian or a Muslim. Did anyone force you? No, they talked with you about it. By reasoning you opened your heart to it and held it so dear that you would give your life for it. And we have to make it En Vogue to give a damn about our community again.

      What we do all too well, is make excuses for our inactivity (as you’ve noted). And what’s paramount in my opinion is that we need to start seeing each other as allies and living more practical, getting out of the mindset of being competitive consumers.

      Avisjay – http://www.livelinklounge.com

    • Anonymous

      MGJ
      You and Shaka Zulu both make some very good points. I feel that many of us have a lot to learn. Let me please point out to you that Shaka is on key about the actions of the current administration. This administration is in Africa, bombing black people, furthering the cause of the Globalist Elite, not Black people. I feel that you make some very good points as far as Black people helping ourselves by correcting our own image. The Black man needs to first look inward if he intends to improve his statue in America. However, please listen to Shaka about the actions of this current administration. I hope that the two of you will be able to see the commonalities that you two have and work together. I feel that both of you are or will be in a position to guide and lead the masses of Americans – Black Americans, White Americans, Mexican Americans, Native Americans – all Americans!
      But let me say this, Obama is not on the side of masses of Black Americans, nor the masses of White Americans, the masses Mexican Americans, the masses of Latinos the masses of Native Americans nor anybody else except the Global Elitists, Corporate America, Big Pharma, Big Ag and the Big Banking Industry. If you are in debt, Obama is not on your side. All of the masses of America need to wake up and understand the need for teamwork. We need to stop point fingers at each other before it is too late. We all are steady loosing our constitutional rights. It is not that Black Americans are suffering alone. We are all suffering if we owe money to the Big Banks.  Now on the matter of “Damnocrats” v “Refucklicans”, it is all a big farce. A scam! When you go to the poles to vote, what are your choices? A Damnocrat or a Refucklican. That is it! Please know that the Damnocrats and the Refucklicans are on opposite sides, but of the same coin. THE SAME COIN!! Now when you flip that coin, it matters not whether it lands HEADS up or TAILS up. It is the same coin and when you take that coin into Walmart, or McDonalds, or Home Depot, or anywhere else, it buys you the same thing! There is no difference between the two, so stop thinking that you are going to vote yourself out of your misery!!

  • Msoyekan

    The remedy to our problems would be equality in rights.  However, that equality will never  be reached as long as we are viewed as second and third class citizens.  The disease of racism is alive and well.  I say we as black folks need to start looking in the mirror and at one another and start our own econimic empowerment by starting small businesses.  But in order for that to work we’d all have to have the same mind set.  This is the problem we too busy with other things.

  • Anonymous

    It’s easy to tell which one of these men is firing on all cylinders of truthfulness and love for all peoples. That would be Dr. West, who has nothing to gain or lose from being specific and pulling no punches when exposing Obama for what he is and what he will not do. But Cornell doesn’t understand yet that Obama does not hold the real power and he is restrained from doing anything to benefit anyone without a go ahead from his ‘Elite’ handlers. Anglo-Elite handlers are not favorable to ‘blacks’ and it now appears that they don’t even care about the condition of the European people.

    What Rev. Sharpton is doing is cozying up to the Administration in hopes of getting anything he can for the people. What he doesn’t understand is that Obama cannot do anything for ‘blacks’ he neither has the power to do anything, nor the will (It isn’t what he was chosen for and it isn’t going to happen). What Sharpton does understand is that if he keeps on the good side of Obama there is something in it for him personally–wealth perhaps, or maybe even a stately position in government. He’s a pseudo politician whereas Dr. West makes no attempts at the political spectrum and only wishes to bend the ears of the political sphere, but again he doesn’t yet realize that the politicians are all playing a game on the people, and nothing he says or does will correct this. What he also doesn’t realize is that he could possibly step into some manure he didn’t know existed. Dr. ML King stepped into this manure when he was told not to cross the line in politics, but failed to listen because his heart was pure for the people of the country and he had decided that it was important enough to sacrifice his life. That is where Dr. West and Dr. King are comparable. They are both heartfelt fighters for the people and they both had no eyes on becoming a politician. Yet they both misunderstood the power of the  villainous machine they were fighting against. (Which can be somewhat compared to an average person going up against any powerful Mob). Most average people try to hide from these sorts of super-powerful criminals and keep very quiet, some even go into witness protection from these sort of all-seeing powerful mob people. The sociopolitical climate we live under is very much like this but few are able to see this without proper mental clarity and deep study. Many seriously fail to connect the dots, and many have no vision or awareness of these dots at all!

    Al Sharpton will most likely find himself a favorable position as long as Obama is posing as “the greatest and most powerful world leader”, as long as he (Sharpton), stays on course.   Dr. West will find that his problems will intensify as long as Obama remains in office and he will eventually realize that he and his kind must be very careful in what they say or do because they have a mass public appeal that surely disturbs those Anglo-Elite who sit on the throne  and push the buttons of the political machine. (They are known to destroy men with great public appeal used against them).

    We must keep in mind that these Anglo-Elite have no love whatsoever for anyone. They have even less love for those they cannot use, manipulate, or steal from. We must also keep in mind that these men topple whole nations and imprison or murder powerful world leaders. With that in mind a conversation between Dr. West and Rev. Sharpton is moot!

  • Scoop

    Question,how do I “get off my lazy black ass and help myself” when unemployment in California for African American’s is at 60% and out of the 60% 11% have college degree’s.I just graduated from UCLA with Business Economics as my major and STILL don’t have a job.Any help magical Negroes that know so much?Simply put fuck YOU and OBAMA!

    • Cwrhodes3513

      Unemployment for African Americans is so high because so many of our young men are walking around showing their draws…and the young ladies with pink hair and longggg finger nails and NO HS Diploma…if we take them out of the scenario then the rate would probally be more compatible with whites.  I have always heard that” there is no fool like an educated fool!”  If your attitude reflect your business skills…then you may be unemployed for a while.  Stay at home on election day or vote for the GOP/Baggers…and you may not only remain unemployed…you just may be the last one in your family to get a degree!   Think about it!

      • Queenofmeanest

        Cwrhodes3513, your response lacks the reality of the plight of Black people.  Education nowadays are a known fallacy.  One can obtain a degree and may never find work in their field.  The only jobs available are: Customer service and data entry.  Jobs that at one time did not demand a H.S. Diploma.  I once worked in customer service for Diner’s Club and I sat next to a Black Man with a Doctorate in Sub Atomic Physics.  So regardless of how many degrees a Black Man may have, unless he is “high” yellow, he may never get a job in his field.

        I grant you that there is a major problem with tie-dye hair, long fingernails, breasts about to run over blouses and sagging, blame that on the parents, blame that on the Black Gays and Lesbians which is now supporting this trend and I am talking about the over 45 y.o. going through this childish phase.  Blame it on BET and rappers who made this “style” mainstream, blame it on the ones who think that gold grillz are the best thing since sliced bread.

        So don’t blame Scoop for his attitude.  he has every right to express his feelings without anyone coming down on him.

        • Cwrhodes3513

          I am in agreement with you on all that you say…I just believe that people like West and Smiley in the media bashing the President is not the way to do it.  They should be encouraging our people to use the only voice they have and that is their vote.  They should be telling our people that the GOP is changing the voting process as we write these posts just to make it harder for them to vote in 2012.  If the GOP/Baggers had their way we would be back to paying poll tax and counting jelly beans in order to vote.  This is not the time to be fighting with one another.  We must look at the situation realistically…and give our President support and not bash him LIKE the racists are doing. particularly when ALL of the GOP/Tea Party candidates don’t give a damn about black folks unless they put the blackest ones behind them on the podium in their weak effort to deny their racism.  If we had gotten out the vote in Nov, 2010 and retained a democratic congress/senate I do believe we would be in better shape.  Florida just changed the voting law that no one can vote a straight democratic/republican ticket.  The voters that we can always rely on are the Seniors and they almost always vote straight ticket.  Many cannot see well or read…rest assured that we will be swamped with GOP poll watchers and scrutinized with every voter the need assistance.  If we want to get out of this mess that the Bush administration left for us…joining in the Obama bashing is NOT the way to get there…what it will get us as African Americans could very well be a seat in the back of the bus.  Wake up people, let’s not fall for this sale out mentality that I am reading on this sight…if there was any time that we need to stick together…it is now!   

      • guestestwitthebestest

        you are kind of a racist, aren’t ya?  you seem like you hate black people.  there are many well educated and articulate individuals who have paid into the system only to get peanuts back, if that.  to generalize blacks in this way belittles our struggle.  since you hate blacks so much, you should be happy when the GOP/Baggers roll up to your porch, cross torched in your yard.

        as for someone’s attitude.  not everyone is meant to lick boots as a means to get by.  though boot-licking certainly has it’s place.  people are frustrated; people are angy and they are entitled to their anger.  displacement is a b*tch.

      • guestestwitthebestest

        you are kind of a racist, aren’t ya?  you seem like you hate black people.  there are many well education and articulate individuals who have paid into the system only to get peanuts back, if that.  to generalize blacks in this way belittles our struggle.  since you hate blacks so much, you should be happy when the GOP/Baggers roll up to your porch, cross torched in your yard.

        as for someone’s attitude.  not everyone is meant to lick boots as a means to get by.  though boot-licking certainly has it’s place.  people are frustrated; people are angy and they are entitled to their anger.  displacement is a b*tch.

        • Cwrhodes3513

          I do not hate black people. As far as the boot licking…that appears to be what Smiley, West and people like you are doing.  As far a cross being torched in my back yard…would imply that I am not a part of their (KKK, Bagger, GOP) agenda…but then you may share in their disdain based on pure jealousy, and  maybe that’s why YOU are not worried about the cross being torched in your yard!  I agree with your asessment in regards to Displacement is a bitch…your anger should be with the white folks that go against everything the President tries to do.  America is a democracy and not rule by dictators.  There is a process..and it is apparent that you have forgotten where the jobs went prior to 1/20/2009. 

  • Ormash

    I don’t think it would be political suicide for President Obama to push forward with central issues in th Black community because most of our core issues effect all poor people. This would be an excellent opportunity for President Obama  to defiinitely make a change that we can believe in. He had a world wide support base plus a Nobel prize when he rode into office; tap  that base.
     Unfortunately, President Obama is a corporate lawyer in a corporate job, surrounded by corporate people. He is a part of the elite system of things.  Now, who do you think he will be siding with. We did’t choose President Obama, we voted for him.

    • Cwrhodes3513

      The victory of the Obama presidency will go down in history…for we may never see this happen again.  There are so many intellectuals on this site and yet what most are lacking is plain old common sense.  I have not read one post from the Intellectual Elite on this site that acknowledge what the real problem is with the President and the Party of NO.  What the intellectual Elitist are doing is joining forces with the white bigots/racist to make this President a one term president…thereby narrowing their chance of seeing their sons and daughters have a chance of being CEO of the greatest country in the world one day.  We as a race are our own worst enemy…we get a few dollars more that our brothers and sisters…and a couple of degrees and we forget where we come from and the struggle it took for us to be able to have elected a well qualified Black man as the President of the United States of America.  Face it…those of you that are educated…you could be in the same place as President Obama…what would you do?  You would have a Congress hell bent on your failure because you are black and negroes asking “What have you done for me lately?”  I am not a racist…so don’t even go there.  It is sad to read the vitriol from people that look like the First Family.  If any of you believe that life will be better with a President Romney, Bachmann, Palin, Cain or Paul…then you are lacking plain old common sense.  There is no fool like an educated fool!

      • Makarios72

        Read the posts of Makarios72 and tell me there is no one else on this post that understands the situation as it is.  Not some pipe dream or lofty notions about Geo-Political conundrums…  I am tired of our rhetoric on the subject of this President.   And believe there is a lot of it on this subject.

  • bluemirror

    Cornel, have you heard of Willie Lynch? His philosophy is still alive and well – and residing in the heart of a man too intelligent to fall for the dupe. 

  • M.K.

    So I guess the people protesting and dying in Syria, along with those from Honduras, Taiwan, and several international countries fighting for freedom, independence, and economic equality are doomed too because of the powers that be?  What about the people in Wisconsin, fighting to ward off the elimination of their Unions? Or Undocumented students organizing and fighting here in Georgia to protest Governor Nathan Deal’s immigration bill?  They’re still fighting zealously and raising their voices, it would behoove us to do the same in this corporate controlled climate.

    Is that what I’m getting from some of the comments here?  Regardless of what we feel about President Obama and the job he’s doing, it’s safe to say that we as Blacks have forced him to do nothing for us.  Remember, while he was on the campaign trail for president, everyone else BUT us asked the question, “What will you do for us?” We basically said, “Wait until he gets in the White House, then….”  What will we do the NEXT time he and the Democrats come around?  Challenge them?  Stay home?  You tell me.

    We all know politics doesn’t work like that. A closed mouth doesn’t get fed.  Moreover, in our local communities, there are politicians who are ignoring our issues as well, but are running unopposed on the ballots come election time.  Who’s fault is that?  How can we stand by and allow mostly Republican governors to either reject or hold on to the stimulus money that WASN’T allocated to Wall Street.  Because of that, many states lost out on important projects and potential revenue-generating jobs.  Can anyone say we were loud enough to silence the cries of “Obamacare,”  in regards to the President’s original healthcare plan?  If the Japanese can force two emperors to resign in the last three to four years, and the Spanish can remove their Prime Minister for siding with former President Bush on the war in Iraq, as well as the British forcing Tony Blair to step down weeks AFTER he was reelected back in 2004, we can’t get the government to do for us like they do for others.  Really?

    Make no mistake, politics and voting is just one aspect of all of this, the other is economics, how many people are going to be BBQing this weekend celebrating the so-called Independence of this nation, for example.  We can talk all we want about Black-this and Black that, but how many of us are going to truly reflect on what Independence Day truly is, through the eyes of those who fought and died for us?  Are we really committed toward self sustenance? As opposed to the annual holiday spending sprees that occur year-round.  Maybe, maybe not. Yet another aspect is accurate information.

     I’m sure that many of us will agree that we are in a Depression, not a “Downturn.”  A downturn suggests a temporary condition, not one that will last for a long while. This “recession” cold potentially last for the rest of this decade, because some of the solutions being enacted are dubious to say the least, by people who caused the problems in the first place.

    Also, the mainstream media is outright lying to us about what’s going on, and not covering other important facets to the crisis occurring before us.  Who are we looking to on a consistent basis for accurate information and truth that we can consider and move on, while providing the support for them to continue?
     
    Lastly, support.  Who are we willing to support and team up with to begin moving towards the goals we seek.  Like Derrick Boazman says on his show “Too  Much Truth,” be an army of one if necessary. A bill to reduce mandatory minimums for crack-cocaine has been passed, and can work to reduce sentences for drug offenders past and present.  Only Congress can stop it from passing.  How many of us will tell Congress to pass this bill post haste, for example?

     I for one don’t pretend to be doing all of these as proficiently as I need to be doing them, however, the models are all around us, and all we need to do is plug in.

  • Cwrhodes3513

    It is really sad to see this type of discussion being publicized by MSM.  West and Smiley are the kind that would divide the black community for their personal gain/satisfaction.  America as a whole is sufferinging during the employment crisis.  President Obama is the president…he is not a dictator!   There is only so much that he can do… He has made appeals to families black and white to take more interest in their families.  It would have been great for the two of them,Smiley and West to have used thier influence to encourage the African American community to get out and vote in the mid-term election and send President Obama some help!  The GOP/Baggers WON! and have come against EVERYthing the President has tried to do…to make him a one term president. The Party of NO and the very weak Black Caucus are the culprits.  I don’t hear from my Congresswoman until election time…then I am swamped with robo calls and literature.  The reason for that is that the black baby-boomers have not really embraced Obama…they had their heads up the Clintons butts even when the Clintons started their race-baiting during the primaries.  Rev. Sharpton has said many times that it is their responsibility to communicate with theri cinstituents and not to make the president The BLACK President for the black people…he was duly elected by the majority of the American people.  As far as I am concerned as an African American…there is no doubt of my choice for President in 2012.  All of the crazy bigots on the other side enjoy listening and reading about the black crawfish that will help them defeat the first African American President that has done a great job against the odds that includes people like West and Smiley.  If the African American voters feel that the President is not doing his job to their satisfaction…stay at home on election day or be stupid enough to vote for the racist GOP/Bagger group and see where it will get us in the future! 

  • Eodeniyi

    My personal feeling is that if the president’s agenda is dominated or obviously tilted towards black issues, he will never get re-elected. I say lets give him the benefit of doubt, get him re elected, and I for one am very sure we will see more action related towards the black agenda. President Obama has consistently shown he has more brains than all of his critics in my opinion. I am of Nigerian descent and really appauled about criticism from blacks levied against the president. Lets get him re elected, this guy is brillaint, I am convinced the president has a plan.

  • Eodeniyi

    My personal feeling is that if the president’s agenda is dominated or obviously tilted towards black issues, he will never get re-elected. I say lets give him the benefit of doubt, get him re elected, and I for one am very sure we will see more action related towards the black agenda. President Obama has consistently shown he has more brains than all of his critics in my opinion. I am of Nigerian descent and really appauled about criticism from blacks levied against the president. Lets get him re elected, this guy is brillaint, I am convinced the president has a plan.

  • guestestwitthebestest

    I think both of these men are respectable and I applaud what they do.  I do not agree with what either of them has to say on all accords or how they behave, though, I really liked that Dr. West was on the counsel in The Matrix II.  That was nice.

    I will be voting for Mumia in the 2012 election.  Rock the vote!!!

  • guestestwitthebestest

    I will add.  I think that it is funny that all these people keep saying that black people need to help themselves.  We are talking about Obama, a politician who was elected into office by our vote.  For non-blacks, their votes bought them a representative, however for the black vote his political influence and sway is expected to mean nothing.  That is a double standard.  The non-black interest groups, such as the gays, demand his attention and he is put under the ram if he is unable to provide the proper response.

    Why should not Black expect the same from their duly elected officials?  We are not asking that he dawn woven sandals and walk on water, but that he give the same consideration to Blacks as Americans as he does to the rest of the country.

    Everyone is charged with helping themselves as individuals, but as a nation, our president has a duty to us all. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Ferguson-III/100000465374118 Daniel Ferguson III

    ALL THIS LET’S ME KNOW IS , NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE SOME DUMB SLEEPWALKING NEGROS HERE IN DETROIT ! I SEE NOW THESE SHEEPEOPLE ARE EVERY WHERE ! ANSWER THIS ! WHO WOULD KEEP SUBSCRIBING TO A SYSTEM THAT FOR OVER 400 YRS , IT’S DESTROYED OUR RACE ! 

    MARCUS GARVEY WAS RIGHT ! MALCOM X WAS RIGHT !  WE WILL NEVER BE FREE UNDER THIS CORPORATION ! EVER ! 

    AND IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE ME LOOK UP THE 13TH AMENDMENT !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Avisjay-Savisti/617630819 Avisjay Savisti

    The sad thing is that it’s business as usual even with Obama as President. The truly sad reality is that none of us recieved the hoped for “I told you so” moment that we wished would crush the pessimism that lurked in the back of our minds during Obama’s Presidency.

    As the record shows, pretty much nothing has changed in the Black Community. And now Black America sees that it controls it’s own fate. Super-Negro isn’t coming! If you’re extremely overweight, would you cry out, “someone needs to help me lose weight”. And some actually do! And in 100% percent of those cases those persons will die from their obesity. It’s until you stop looking “outward” for help and realize nothings going to get done unless YOU DO IT. Unless you break the cycle.

    And it’s a hard thing to do! But sometimes your survival is dependent on you doing so. And it’s the same in the Black Community. I mean, we’re flying pass a rock heading to the bottom of the lake like it was standing still. Everyone knows the problem. But how many still allow their children (and friends of their children) to play active role in the very things we complain about?

    @yahoo-QOJQQIPMNVFQMGLZMVTNEOJV4I:disqus  “What has Cornel West EVER, EVER done to help anybody black except sit his black ass on panels and write books…that goes for Tavis Smiley and the rest of the professional black panel sitters. All they do is TALK.”

    First Cornell West is an highly revered educator in African American Studies. To suggest his role is insignificant would be absolutely ridiculous! Everyone is in agreement that the lack of knowing and understanding of our history is one of the “key” problems in Black America.

    And the fact is we need more intelligent people that are knowledgable about these issues to put them on the table. He’s doing his part in my opinion. To look for him to do more than he’s already doing would be the same as hoping Obama would save Black America. Truthfully this dialog needs to be in our public schools. To get our kids thinking and understanding to “realities” of life and the uniqueness of being African American in this country and not the MTV bullsh*t they digest as being real. Because we’re “not” all the same(at least not here). Any immigrant getting off a boat that has never been to the U.S. already knows where you should go to buy drugs, where the worst schools are, what neighborhoods have the highest crime rate, who has the highest STD rate and the best place to step up a simple small business. We need to stop being apologetic, “go along to get along” Negroes. And demand “Real Talk” subjects in our community schools. That our children want to come home and talk about these issues.

    I know it’s easy to become extremely frustrated when the despair we’re facing is realized. But more voices need to be heard. Cornell West in my eyes is doing what Malcolm and Martin did by talking and reasoning with the people. The issue is unlike them, we’re afraid to preach to those that really don’t want to hear it (that’s why we get on these forums, but most won’t carry the passion outside of it).

    Think of it this way, how did you become a Christian or a Muslim. Did anyone force you? No, they talked with you about it.  By reasoning you opened your heart to it and held it so dear that you would give your life for it. And we have to make it En Vogue to give a damn about our community again.

    What we do all too well, is make excuses for our inactivity (as you’ve noted). And what’s paramount in my opinion is that we need to start seeing each other as allies and living more practical, getting out of the mindset of being competitive consumers.

    Avisjay – http://www.livelinklounge.com

  • Tobbo Hugo

    i do agree with MGJ. most definitely

  • Tobbo Hugo

    i do agree with MGJ. most definitely

  • Aintsaying

    First of all, thank you Brother Watkins. Finally someone is seeing “IT” for what “IT” really is! As a Black American, I was so very proud and happy to see a Black Man in the White House. I was all excited and had high expectations. I thought that we were finally going to see some real CHANGE, finally! Then came the big day! The first day in office of the first Black President.
    Then, suddenly my hopes, my bubble, my world came crashing to the ground – really fast, really hard! So I now hope that Bro Sharpton, Bro West, Bro Joyner and others will come to see as Bro Watkins seems to have done, and realize that it ain’t about the color of your skin! IT IS ALL ABOUT THE SIZE OF YOUR WALLET! I have come to detest and despise RACISM in any form. Racism of any kind is all about antiquated, ignorant stupidity! Whether it be White against Black, or Black against White, it is a sign of extreme ignorance! “They” are playing us! “They” love it when “we”, who should be teammates, are spending our time fighting against each other. I pray for the day that “we” wake up and see that we are truly teammates and stop being fooled by the “racist propaganda” that is being spewed out to us – daily. The racist propaganda is working really well because we are too damned stupid to see it and understand it!
    Let me take you back to when my bubble, my world, my hopes first came tumbling down! If you will recall, when George Bush, commonly referred to as the “worst President ever”, was leaving office, he was propping up the Big Banking Elite. Stating that they were too big to fail. (Speaking of Corporate Welfare!). Well, I say Bull$hit! Ain’t nothing too big to fall. If you doubt it, ask Goliath! Nothing is too big to fall! At the same time, “we” are being led like sheep by racist propaganda and being made to think that “we”, who should be teammates, are each others’ enemies! We, then are at each others’ throats, talking about “WELFARE” and laying blame on each other! What “we” receive as welfare is chicken scratch when compared to corporate welfare! When Obama took office, his very first move was to continued the corporate welfare that Bush had started by propping up the Big Banking Elite. Now in the meantime, “we” continued to lose our homes to foreclosures, “we” continued to experience rising cost of living, “we” continued to see rising unemployment, and “we” were unable to receive credit or loans from the Big Banking Elite. The same Satanic Entity who had been put on “Easy Street” by Mr Obama.
    Now America, I do not care who you are, whether you be Black, White, Latino, Mexican, Native American, Middle East, Asian, black, white, red, yellow, purple, silver, coppertone, I don’t care, “Mr Obama” is not on your side!!! “Mr Obama is on the side of Corporate America, Big Central Banks, Big Pharmaceutical, Big Agriculture, (Monsanto, Syngenta, Bayer, Dupont and others)
    “We” in America are ALL going to DIE unless we wake up and bust Goliath’s Big A$$ between the eyes!!  Mr Obama is the exact same “soup”, rewarmed, and served in a Black pot as opposed to to a White pot!!

  • Anonymous

    First of all, thank you Brother Watkins. Finally someone is
    seeing “IT” for what “IT” really is! As a Black American, I
    was so very proud and happy to see a Black Man in the White House. I was all
    excited and had high expectations. I thought that we were finally going to see
    some real CHANGE, finally! Then came the big day! The first day in office of
    the first Black President.
    Then, suddenly my hopes, my bubble, my world came crashing to the ground –
    really fast, really hard! So I now hope that Bro Sharpton, Bro West, Bro Joyner,
    Bro Jackson and others will come to see as Bro Watkins seems to have done, and
    realize that it ain’t about the color of your skin! IT IS ALL ABOUT THE SIZE OF
    YOUR WALLET! I have come to detest and despise RACISM in any form. Racism of
    any kind is all about antiquated, ignorant stupidity! Whether it be White
    against Black, or Black against White, it is a sign of extreme ignorance!
    “They” are playing us! “They” love it when “we”,
    who should be teammates, are spending our time fighting against each other. I
    pray for the day that “we” wake up and see that we are truly
    teammates and stop being fooled by the “racist propaganda” that is
    being spewed out to us – daily. The racist propaganda is working really well
    because we are too damned stupid to see it and understand it!
    Let me take you back to when my bubble, my world, my hopes first came tumbling
    down! If you will recall, when George Bush, commonly referred to as the
    “worst President ever”, was leaving office, he was propping up the
    Big Banking Elite. Stating that they were too big to fail. (Speaking of
    Corporate Welfare!). Well, I say Bull$hit! Ain’t nothing too big to fall. If
    you doubt it, ask Goliath! Nothing is too big to fall! At the same time,
    “we” are being led like sheep by racist propaganda and being made to
    think that “we”, who should be teammates, are each others’ enemies!
    We, then are at each others’ throats, talking about “WELFARE” and
    laying blame on each other! What “we” receive as welfare is chicken
    scratch when compared to corporate welfare! When Obama took office, his very
    first move was to continued the corporate welfare that Bush had started by
    propping up the Big Banking Elite. Now in the meantime, “we”
    continued to lose our homes to foreclosures, “we” continued to
    experience rising cost of living, “we” continued to see rising
    unemployment, and “we” were unable to receive credit or loans from
    the Big Banking Elite. The same Satanic Entity who had been put on “Easy
    Street” by Mr Obama.
    Now America, I do not care who you are, whether you be Black, White, Latino,
    Mexican, Native American, Middle East, Asian, black, white, red, yellow,
    purple, silver, coppertone, I don’t care, “Mr Obama” is not on your
    side!!! “Mr Obama is on the side of Corporate America, Big Central Banks,
    Big Pharmaceutical, Big Agriculture, (Monsanto, Syngenta, Bayer, Dupont and
    others)
    “We” in America are ALL going to DIE unless we wake up and bust
    Goliath’s Big A$$ between the eyes!! Mr Obama is the exact same
    “soup”, rewarmed, and served in a Black pot as opposed to to a White
    pot!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nealhugh-Hurwitz/552859129 Nealhugh Hurwitz

    Happy to have found you…I started Friends of SNCC at Columbia University in 1964 after the deaths of Chaney Goodman and Schwerner in June…
    and so: are you the first black Professor at Syracuse?

    Thank you, Neal H. Hurwitz, NY NY
    nealhugh.com 

    Executive Director
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