Dr. Boyce: BET Has Officially Become the New and Improved KKK

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I just spent the week in New Orleans, the powerbase for one of the most talented, powerful and destructive forces in the history of music: Lil Wayne.  I’ve admittedly bopped my head to the tunes of Lil Wayne in the past, feeling the same guilt that any man might feel if he were to enjoy a crack pipe or shot of heroin, knowing how these drugs destroy families, individuals and communities.  In other words, I consider myself to be a hip-hop insider, and I simply hate the idea of being labeled as a hater.  But as a father and black man who has seen too much death and devastation in my family and so many others, I had to say that “enough is enough,” leading me to candidly discuss my decision to walk away from certain styles of hip-hop music.

BET, the media company that targets black consumers, but is ultimately controlled by a predominantly white organization called Viacom, is not exactly on the same page when it comes to their assessment of Lil Wayne or any other artist (i.e. R. Kelly) who can be directly linked to the holocaust occurring within black America today.  Given that models of profit maximization rarely call for any assessment of the negative externalities that result from unethical corporate behavior, the executive committee for the BET Awards made the interesting decision to give the greatest number of award nominations to Lil Wayne, the man who said that he would love to (among other things) make a woman fall in love with him, convince her to steal and kill for him, and then murder her and send her dead body back to her boyfriend (“and then I’ll murder that b*tch and send her body back to yo ass”).  Oh yea, he also said that he would kill little babies, have sex with every girl in the world if he could, gladly use the gun he carries on his hip and “leave a nigga’s brains on the street.”

It might be almost feasible to overlook the “kill little babies comment” were it not for the innocent three-year old boy who was shot in the head by a 21-year old black male in my hometown just a couple of weeks ago – these atrocities are all too common in countless neighborhoods across America.  Also, this music is not simply harmless entertainment for millions of black youth who’ve had their history stolen during slavery and actually look to hip-hop music to tell them how to dress, talk, think, act and live.  There is no high school speaker more popular than a hip-hop star.

The Ku Klux Klan has been regularly criticized for encouraging violence against African Americans and terrorizing our community.  But the truth is that the Klan doesn’t have much power anymore, and their thirst for African American blood seems to have waned a bit.  At the same time, Lil Wayne and artists like him have made a habit of encouraging black men to shoot one another, to abuse or murder women, to consume suicidal amounts of drugs and alcohol and to engage in irresponsible, deadly sexual behavior.

As a result, black men are the most likely to die from gun violence, mass incarceration continues to decimate black families, drug addiction and possession ruins black lives in droves, and HIV is the leading killer of black women.  So, the truth is that Lil Wayne-like artists and the corporate armies producing this weaponized genocide have killed more black people than the KKK ever could.  By accelerating, financing and supporting the “Lil Wayne gospel” to a community that is already dying, BET has effectively positioned itself as a new and improved version of the KKK.  In fact, if we had a choice between eliminating the KKK or getting rid of BET, the black community would benefit more from the latter.

It’s one thing if BET reports on the activities of Lil Wayne or even has him as a guest on their network; we all know that celebrities increase ratings, and as a Business School Professor, I understand the need to pay the bills.  But by publicly rewarding his behavior, they are encouraging every record company executive and Lil Wayne wannabe to go to the lab and manufacture more of this musical poison.  As a result, there is some 10-year old boy putting down his textbook to watch the BET Awards, and effectively attending the Lil Wayne School of Black Male behavior.   Years later, when this boy shoots another black man in the face, infects one of his many “hoes” with HIV, ends up in a prison cell, dies from a drug overdose or beats his girlfriend to death, we will be able to link his behavior directly to his formative years, when we cashed in this child’s future for higher shareholder returns at Viacom.  Perhaps a day will come when those of us who know destructive music when we hear it will actually have the discipline to draw lines and seek accountability, rather than look the other way.  It’s not as if you can argue that Lil Wayne is actually GOOD for black America, and it’s small-minded to justify a man’s reckless behavior just because he’s wealthy – few communities are more blinded by money than African Americans.

Charles Manson is considered one of the most vicious killers in history, yet he never actually murdered a soul.  He has been in prison for 40 years because he convinced others to commit murder, controlling their minds through comfortable words and charisma.  If Manson had been given the platform supplied by BET and the rest of corporate America and a license to share his rhetoric without restraint, he could have caused the deaths of millions more.  Lil Wayne doesn’t explicitly tell young men to go out and commit murder, but he is no less persuasive than LeBron James in a Nike commercial, who never actually says, “Go out and buy Nikes.”  The reason that this company pays James millions of dollars to wear Nike sneakers is because there is clear scientific evidence showing that when young men see James in these shoes, they will copy him.  The same thing is true when Lil Wayne says, “I’ll run up in ya house and shoot ya grandmother up.”  In other words, he is endorsing a lifestyle in the same way that many celebrities endorse products – and kids are taking notice.

So, by publicly rewarding and applauding the words of Lil Wayne, BET is giving his beloved message a level of power, penetration and approval that is fit for a king – most interesting is that Wayne’s endorsement of killing women and children is far more vicious than anything Manson ever said.  By rewarding such behavior, BET is effectively saying, “This is the kind of music we WANT our community to listen to, we are explicitly encouraging you to make more of it and we don’t care much about the side effects.”  So, the next time we turn to the KKK, Tea Partiers or the Republicans as the greatest enemies of black people, we might want to take a look in the mirror.  By cheering for those who recite lyrics that encourage us to kill our babies, we are effectively sleeping with and exalting the enemy.

 

Dr. Boyce Watkins is a Professor at Syracuse University and founder of the Your Black World Coalition.  To have Dr. Boyce commentary delivered to your email, please click here.

 

  • Higgspatricia

    There is a lot of great performers out there. Not to let the bad pull them down. That is that guy with the bad mouth on him. some time people salute people just to keep from here what they have to say. when don’t really deserve it. I don’t like the things he say either. People like that I let them talk to there own self. You can’t let one bad apple steal your joy.

  • SapphiresMomma

    Dr. Watkins,

    You have finally written an article that is absolutely worthy of our attention.

    I tuned into the BET Awards show tonight only to see the biggest COON show that I have ever seen.

    When will be get enough of this type of ignorance?

    When will we take a stand against these people, Black and white who’s only intention is to bring us down through their so called “music”?

    When we stop glorifying BET, and stop our children from buying the product of those who disrespect us as a people, we may learn what it is to respect one’s self.

    These “entertainers” coming out on the stage looking like something out of an old coon show, hopping around like monkeys. Just plain foolish, and ignorant.

    BOYCOTT BET until they change their thought process, and start respecting the Black community. We allowed BOB JOHNSON to degrad us as a people and he became a millionair off of the ignorance of some black people, now we are allowing VIACOM to do the same thing only under a “different” format. Who are these people who make these decisions?

    Lil Wayne, indeed!  We should all be OUTRAGED!!!

    Nothing else to say about it!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EGXZ26MK42CPGJ2FMIR3VXS4T4 flextime

      Don’t get me wrong!  I love what you said… But on the flip side of this when BET had worth while shows they were the lowest rated!  So if BET or TV ONE decided to put on financial shows, Black news show, Investment shows.  Would you watch them?  Would anybody watch them?  Will we train our children that entertain show are fine but Investment money shows are better?

      • Khanharm

        You are absolutely right in implying that our children need to be trained to be more discerning when watching these shows, but that still doesn’t justify the idea that BET should be able to lend its programming to “whatever sells”. Reformat or come up with better marketing for the positive/helpful/progressive. I just don’t see soul selling as a viable alternative. 

      • Shelly D

        I don’t think that BET should show financial shows all day.  But, showing cultural events and family oriented shows would help a lot.  Videos, with booties shakin, and platinum teeth, and money being thrown in the air definitely is counter-productive.  There can be a balance between good family value shows, financial matters, cultural awareness and gospel that permeates the waves.  In time, children would get used to those images just like that have the videos.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EGXZ26MK42CPGJ2FMIR3VXS4T4 flextime

      Don’t get me wrong!  I love what you said… But on the flip side of this when BET had worth while shows they were the lowest rated!  So if BET or TV ONE decided to put on financial shows, Black news show, Investment shows.  Would you watch them?  Would anybody watch them?  Will we train our children that entertain show are fine but Investment money shows are better?

  • Soja

    “or any other artist (i.e. R. Kelly) who can be directly linked to the holocaust occurring within black America today. ”

    How is R. Kelly in anyway responsible to the occurring “holocaust within black America”? I don’t recall him singing about killing women or encouraging drugs. If I do recall correctly his last album is about the usual topics – Love and forgiveness.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YU67NKK6UQNFKNMBKPTF3YDFTQ Clifford

      He may have been alluding to the peeing on girls thing, I guess!

      • Ford

        How does songs like “I Believe I Can Fly” or “The World’s Greatest” allude to peeing on people? Running out of jokes, I see.

      • Ford

        How does songs like “I Believe I Can Fly” or “The World’s Greatest” allude to peeing on people? Running out of jokes, I see.

        • Shelly D

          Get your head out of the clouds,  WOW.  R. Kelly who is referenced in the writer’s response is also someone who has done damage and walked away from it.  He not only believes he can fly, but he believes in doing underage girls, as well. 

          But, this is not the topic of discussion.  I just didn’t understand how you missed that.

          • yeaheyesaidit

            Shelly D,
            I got it long time ago when it happened.  Good thing you pointed it out to our sister.  Each one teach one!

        • Markryze

          This is a perfect example of someone (wow possibly an adult),
          who ignores the fact that RKelly should be called out,
          & pointed out as being a “bad example”.Don’t be afraid of
          not appearing ‘kool’ to your kids.And be careful of weak adults.
          Keep them out of your house !

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YU67NKK6UQNFKNMBKPTF3YDFTQ Clifford

      He may have been alluding to the peeing on girls thing, I guess!

    • FA

      UMMM by being a damn unrepentant pedophile, dummy!

      • iilfdf

        The writer is clearly speaking about his MUSIC…. dummy!

      • iilfdf

        The writer is clearly speaking about his MUSIC…. dummy!

    • Feleria1212

      Oh yeah!!!! love & forgiveness, while making a porn film with an under age girl & pissing on her. Yeah, that’s love & forgiveness. It appears that you’re as warped as he is!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

    You are not going to get the people who put you in the the barrel, help to pull you out, that does not make sense, because  that was the main reason why they put you in in the first place…We fund our own oppression when we listen to radio stations, buy products from sponsors of these stations and don’t contact our cable companies to yank these cable channels from their lineup, better yet tun off your cable subscription and TV’s…We belly ache and cry and complain but the most important tool we have is our money, lets use that to do the talking and not our tongue…We have allowed degeneracy to become the norm in our communities, out of wedlock pregnancy, raunchy videos which we allow our children to be actors in, excessive tattoos on men and women, etc…When Bob Johnson and Debra Lee started this assault on our children twenty years ago, we all sat back and let it slide now this is what we have, an out of control genocidal community of youths whose life expectancy is going to be less that their parents…We have always had black people who had a hatred of themselves and all black people, from emancipation to present, who now that they have money and can live where ever they want, can express that hatred to the fullest since they no longer are forced to live with black people…

    Debra Lee, Bob Johnson and Cathy Hughes have expressed this hatred towards black people and for that, I will never forgive them for the genocide that they have done to this lost generation of blacks not only in the Americas, but throughout the world where this garbage is exported and will demonized blacks in the world view…I though that TV One would be an improvement over BET, but it’s replaying all the buffoonery of Martin, Sanford & Son, Good Times, etc and nothing informative in the ways of news programming, or informative adult discussions…These people and others amoung them, have done more damage to black people than the KKK have done since emancipation, in South Africa these people would have been take outdoors and given a South African version of the infamous necktie party… 

    • Friend/Truth

      Again Shakka Zulu, you are the intelligence we need as Mayors, Congressmen, Senators!

    • http://www.facebook.com/melvin.whitfieldbey Melvin Bub J Whitfield-Bey

      Bruh whats wrong with goodtimes and Martin adn Snaford and Son those are just television shows so what!!!the fact is that it isn’t buffunory and i bothers me when i hear that crap ,black folks can’t even act silly without being labeled a buffon!!

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t go as far to say BET is KKK
    but I will admit …. BET is decaying and destroying the mental, physical and spiritual essence of what BLACK IN AMERICA is all about.

    This show for kids, youth and young adults is a disgrace.cleavage has no place in a child’s mind …. camel toe has no place in a child’s mind.BET is a disgrace. – THEY TO SHALL END –  if they don’t step up to the plate.
    Change their programming –  and become a POSITIVE FORCE and not a negative one.

    if the devil worshiping rap stars and vocalist don’t like it ? 
    They have the money to start their own network
    BET ? and all the rest of you organizations and leaders who target blacks and other non whites. STRAIGHTEN UP –  or be brought down. 

    • Qboro

       I feel you. It’s interesting how only the devil worshiping rappers and singers are celebrated and all other artists are ignored.

      • Cosmic_rayz

        I say again, stop being a lazy Parent who lets there child watch what ever they want on Youtube and start monitoring what you’re child is viewing and listing to.

        • Anonymous

          What are you going to do when they go to school ?? 
          And those kids who parents don’t care – show them all the things they are not supposed to see –  on their iphones and so on ?

          the best thing to do is close down the sources of where it comes from …. BET targets blacks –  blacks should STAND TOGETHER and stop them. It would be a turn in the RIGHT DIRECTION.

      • Anonymous

        EXACTLY …. BET is only pushing negativity down our throats …

  • Anonymous

    You continue to refuse to put the responsibility where it belongs—-with the parents. My daughter does not listen to Lil Wayne. She does not like the lyrics. Maybe, as parents if we teach our children pride and respect of one’s self, his music would not sell. 

    • Qboro

       I agree with you regarding the lack of parenting in the community but you cannot deny the power of the negative music for the last 20 years. The record industry conveniently pushed out the progressive hip-hop in favor of “gangsta rap”.

      • Cosmic_rayz

        Still it starts at home if we take the time to teach our children how to respect themselves as well as whats acceptable for intertainment we wouldnt have these problems.Not enough Parents care anymore,alot of the parents are to cought up in the bling bling themselves.We need to get back to the villege concept.

        • charles

          We can always find ways to blame others for our misfortunes but as others have stated our parents were raised with values that they in turn instilled within us along with the neighbors who chastised us if they witnessed us doing wrong, as Mrs Clinton stated it does take a village to raise our children and until we recognize that as a community we will continue to plan funerals for our Black youth.

          • CultureKeeper

            Mrs. Clinton was never “raised in any village”, so how would she know?  She doesn’t.   What I’m getting at is this is something she has heard.  It is an African Proverb.  It always bothers me when people give Mrs. Clinton credit for this remark and not the African culture from which it originated.  Let us at least PRESERVE and recognize our OWN WISDOM — that’s all I’m saying!

      • Cosmic_rayz

        Still it starts at home if we take the time to teach our children how to respect themselves as well as whats acceptable for intertainment we wouldnt have these problems.Not enough Parents care anymore,alot of the parents are to cought up in the bling bling themselves.We need to get back to the villege concept.

    • http://www.facebook.com/unclekipper Kipper Jones

      The scourge of irresponsible parenting can also be directly traced to this “Lil’ Wayne-ism” as well!

    • http://www.facebook.com/unclekipper Kipper Jones

      The scourge of irresponsible parenting can also be directly traced to this “Lil’ Wayne-ism” as well!

    • Brook

      So, you’re saying that we shouldn’t blame Lil wayne for anything?  Crazy. 

    • Ggrandpoohbah1

      I agree with you on so many levels.  There was a time when some people didn’t have TV’s.  We should pull from some of the vintage ways of doing things which is being a parent that our child/children respect and listen to and in turn they will know how to respect and love themselves.  They may not do everything right or what we as parents want them to do, but you do the very best you can, make the little mistakes and move positively forward knowing you gave your best!  

  • MP

    This article fails to even mention the parents of these children listening to the music. Mason is a terrible comparison as he lead a cult that he directly manipulAted to do his killing. Outside of gospel music I believe 90 percent of music is directed at degrading, sleeping with or cheAting on women. Music is a scapegoat the problem is in the home. We never talk about the 100s of jobs that lil Wayne has provided for felons that would likely be out doing God knows what. Just Saying.

  • Sandra

    Dear Dr. Watkins,
    Your article about Lil Wayne was definitely on the mark!! I really would like to see this same article printed in areas where more of our black youth can see it.  It is an article that needs to be broadcast.  We are hurting our own culture and supporting the demonization of it.

  • Coyoteb1

    Very well said….

    • lynne

      BET has never been allowed in my home, I block it from the TV’s WHY? because  Most rap music offends and degrades women and the black community as a whole. As a parent it is my right.
      A few years ago, I read somewhere, most rappers do not allow their children to listen to the crap they put out. They know it is trash.

      Rappers ARE NOT a role model for my kids, Perhaps I am bias because my brother been a rapper for 20 years and STILL does not have a job yet.

      About Li wayne, (or whatever he calls him self) He is a clown plain and simple. 

  • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

    If white suburbanites are the largest consumer of hip-hop music, why is it that whites do not experience the same “holocaust” that blacks experience if both groups are listening to the same music?

    I’ll answer that: It’s because most of white America understands that the lifestyles protrayed in the music is fictitious and not a model to be imitated. And why does white America know that? Parenting.

    In 2009, it was estimated that nationwide, 67% of African-American children are in single-parent families. Well over 60% of black women are unmarried. It is common knowledge that the biggest driving force in a child’s upbringing is his or her parents, the values passed onto the child from the parents, and the relationship the parents display in front of the children. Well, with 67% of black kids being in single parent homes, and over 60% of black women unmarried, it’s a no brainer to realize that the missing part of the equation is black men who refuse to marry black women, who refuse to grow the hell up and act like a man and take care of the child they made.

    Rap artists are not to blame. The music is not to blame. Black men who have no idea how to be a stand up man are to blame. Absentee fathers are to blame. The lack of a father figure in the lives of young black children to tell them that rap is nice to listen to but the things they say are not to be emulated are to blame.

    I can make a very confident prediction: If that statistic from 2009 where 67% of black children are in single parent homes reduces by half, the very “holocaust” that plagues the black community will all but disappear.

    Time to step up to the plate black men. Growing up you might not have had a father but if you have children you have a choice: you can reject your responsibilities as a husband and parent and perpetuate the cycle of black kids growing up without fathers who are up to no good, or you can decide to break the cycle and be a better parent than your father was to you. Your choice. But the next time you point the finger at the source of the problem, make sure you do it in front of a mirror because only then will you be pointing at the REAL source of the problem.

    • 57

      I must admit that you are correct! Well spoken

    • Brook

      If you put all the black men in prison, as they did during the war on drugs – there are no fathers around to be parents.  We must deal with the systemic factors that caused the breakdown of the black family.  Black people didn’t just decide to stop being parents idiot. 

      • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

        I agree that black men serve much tougher punishments than any other people however we cannot forget the simple fact that many of these incarcerated men made stupid decisions by possessing drugs in the first place. A responsible adult and father does not participate in drugs.

        Or are you suggesting that these men are not to blame for their own predicament and every black man in jail was framed by a dirty cop planting drugs on him?

        Get real.

        • Rrchicagojazz

          AS A WHITE HONKIE YOU ARE VERY RACIST IN YOUR COMMENTS.WHITES HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH SHIT IN THIS COUNTRY,BUT THEY HAVE PUT BLACK THROUGH A WHOLE LOT OF SHIT THAT I THINK YOU AS A WHITE MAN COULD NOT HANDLE.IT MAKE ME SICK TO SEE THAT SOME STUPID MARRIED A STUPID HONKIE LIKE YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE,GOT TO HAVE THAT BLACK BOOTY.YOU NEED TO READ A BOOK CALLED THE NEW JIM CROW.THIS BOOK PROVES THAT IT IS RACISM AND RACISM ALONE THAT LOCKS UP PEOPLE FOR THE SAME CRIMES THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE LOCKED UP FOR.YOU ALSO NEED TO GO ON YOUTUBE AND LOOK UP DR KHLID MOHHAMED VIDEO SO THAT YOU WILL NEVER MAKE A MISTAKE LIKE YOU JUST DID .

          • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

            Thanks for your level-headed and calm response.

            I don’t deny racism. It’s rampant in this country.

            However that doesn’t excuse the fact that black men are not stepping up to the plate. The data shows it. They are not marrying black women and with 2 out of 3 black homes being single parent homes, they are not being good fathers either.

            Like Ed O.G. said in “Be a Father to Your Child”: “You’re not a father ’cause you got a son, unless you’re taking care of him.”

          • YeahIsaidIt

            The statistics don’t lie, the black community is facing a very sad tragedy.  I myself have looked into starting an organization to help promote fatherhood and do some repair to the damage these numbers reflect.  However, as a black man with a child whose mother I am not married to, I must stand up for others in my very same situation.  While things did not work out for their very own reasons between my child’s mother (I simply refuse to say baby mama) and I, I cannot accept blame for not making it work.  Relationships are a two way street and unfortunately many black women have sold the world the sad story that all of their children’s fathers are useless horn dogs.  Everyone throws those statistics around but very few, if any, ask whether it was the woman or man that left the relationship and why.  I have friends whose mothers left their fathers only to be the ones to end up on drugs and not being responsible and having to give the children up to the father later on because he was the responsible parent all along.  However, the way men are portrayed in the legal system, this seldom reveals itself until it is too late and the children are in harms way.  Many women convince themselves that they are ready for something they are not and end up running away from it, taking the child with them.  I could go on, but the point is not that black men need to step up, but the black community as a whole needs to have an honest sit down talk and correct the runaway train that is destroy itself from the inside out.

          • Dusttracks

            People, both black and white, kill me with these generalizations.  Can you name a name?  Two? Three?  Are there people that you know personally who are behaving in the way that you’re complaining about? 

            I challenge anybody on this post whose complaining “’bout the black man” to name two or three people that you know personally and reach out to them ‘personally’.  Help that woman or help that man.  Stop sitting on your arse spouting theories and statistics.  It does no one a bit of good.  Not. One. Bit.

          • Dusttracks

            People, both black and white, kill me with these generalizations.  Can you name a name?  Two? Three?  Are there people that you know personally who are behaving in the way that you’re complaining about? 

            I challenge anybody on this post whose complaining “’bout the black man” to name two or three people that you know personally and reach out to them ‘personally’.  Help that woman or help that man.  Stop sitting on your arse spouting theories and statistics.  It does no one a bit of good.  Not. One. Bit.

          • Jazzup

            Thank You Dustracks!!! I work hard as a volunteer. What I would like to see is more people out there helping folks who need  it. I dont discuss Wayne or BET…they are not a part of my world and get not one dime of my money or time!

          • http://www.facebook.com/calvin.sales Calvin Sales

            I can name 3 cousins.  Each with at least 3 kids by 3 different women.  I find it rather disingenuous when people deny statistics gathered over a large group in favor of personal anecdotes.
            I AM a Black man.  I’m married to the mother of my only kids.  And if you deny that the Black community has a HUGE problem, then your reliance on personal anecdotes as evident might be the source of your problem.

          • http://twitter.com/ajtaylor317 Ali Jamar Taylor

            A Black man can be a good father without necessarily being a husband. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/melvin.whitfieldbey Melvin Bub J Whitfield-Bey

            Dude shill the hel out with the Ed og remarks no shit one should be a father to hs child thats a no brainedr,the data???the data??tell me sir what is the difference between an excuse and a reason?

          • Poppichulo79

            I believe you have been on point with pretty much everything you have said. I see one thing from a different perspective though. You have stated that black men not marrying black women is a big part of the issue. I (a black man) see it as black women are not waiting untill they have husbands and are in a family situation to have kids. Not to take up for deadbeat dads but a woman should know she cant reallyrely on some guy she was only having casual sex with. Black men are not walking out on women they were never with and its difficult to be an effective dad when you dont live in the home

          • Rrchicagojazz

            you don’t know anything about me.i am not a writer,i play music.i have
            played with al green,tyrone davis,jackie wilson and the emotions.i also
            study black history,most black people don’t.i thought myself how to
            repair computers and i make leather hand bags,skirts jackets and hats.i
            am amazed when a black person goes to white schools and learn the white
            mans garbage and then call me ignorant.we really need to stop calling
            each other names and start to find some solutions to all the harm the
            usa white population has done to us.you really,really need to read
            Michelle Alexander’s book The new Jim crow.put in the search engine bbc
            history of racism and look @ what you don’t know.the point i was making
            by calling this honkie a honkie is that we really as black people don’t
            need him to come on a site called black world telling us what he thinks
            our problems are.something else you need to check on you-tube is the
            American drug war,where it shows the united states government putting
            drugs in the hood.wake up black sister or are you the kind that just
            say”give me Jesus” and   blind yourself to what has happened and what is
            happening to our people

          • Tekguitar

            the same thing could be said about you as a white man, marrying a black woman…one less black woman to marry..and again i say, you are in no position to give advice to any black man….the data shows that millions of acres of land was awarded to white males only..what happened in the past is the largest contributor of why america is the way it is today… you try to give advice to  black men, but make no mistake..the situation of black families goes a lot deeper than what you’re talking..since you pretend to be so interested in the black man’s family..read up on willie lynch..you’ll find out the truth about black families & why things are the way they are..

          • Dezzy

            It is quite clear that you have anger management issues.  I suggest you seek counseling ASAP.

          • Rrchicagojazz

            any black person who is not angry has got to be out of his head or totally unaware of black history.malcolm x said the same thing.any fool should he mad as hell for his ancesters being kidnapped ,made to work sun up until sundown without pay.most of the time worked until you die.i can trace my people back to 1852 when this man name rash was enslaved.my great gragfather’s land was taken in the south.this is wealth i am talking about that should have been passed down.that is just why till this day a lot of black people don’t have any wealth.the only thing whites gave blacks was jesus,no money for the work they had done,no deed to land they owned ,just jesus,turn the other cheek and forgive.well,i don’t have anymore cheeks to turn and i have forgiven until i am blue in the face.you damn right i have anger issues.

          • SapphiresMomma

            Folks,

            This is why some of us are on the bottom rung, and will stay there.
             
            Ignorance will never prevail. We will never move forward when we have people who present themselves like the following:

            “Rrchicagojazz (unregistered) wrote:AS A WHITE HONKIE YOU ARE VERY RACIST IN YOUR COMMENTS.WHITES HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH SHIT IN THIS COUNTRY,BUT THEY HAVE PUT BLACK THROUGH A WHOLE LOT OF SHIT THAT I THINK YOU AS A WHITE MAN COULD NOT HANDLE.IT MAKE ME SICK TO SEE THAT SOME STUPID MARRIED A STUPID HONKIE LIKE YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE,GOT TO HAVE THAT BLACK BOOTY.YOU NEED TO READ A BOOK CALLED THE NEW JIM CROW.THIS BOOK PROVES THAT IT IS RACISM AND RACISM ALONE THAT LOCKS UP PEOPLE FOR THE SAME CRIMES THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE LOCKED UP FOR.YOU ALSO NEED TO GO ON YOUTUBE AND LOOK UP DR KHLID MOHHAMED VIDEO SO THAT YOU WILL NEVER MAKE A MISTAKE LIKE YOU JUST DID .”

            Absolute ignorance!

          • Rrchicagojazz

            you don’t know anything about me.i am not a writer,i play music.i have played with al green,tyrone davis,jackie wilson and the emotions.i also study black history,most black people don’t.i thought myself how to repair computers and i make leather hand bags,skirts jackets and hats.i am amazed when a black person goes to white schools and learn the white mans garbage and then call me ignorant.we really need to stop calling each other names and start to find some solutions to all the harm the usa white population has done to us.you really,really need to read Michelle Alexander’s book The new Jim crow.put in the search engine bbc history of racism and look @ what you don’t know.the point i was making by calling this honkie a honkie is that we really as black people don’t need him to come on a site called black world telling us what he thinks our problems are.something else you need to check on you-tube is the American drug war,where it shows the united states government putting drugs in the hood.wake up black sister or are you the kind that just say”give me Jesus” and   blind yourself to what has happened and what is happening to our people.

          • Rrchicagojazz

            Sapphire, rrchicagojazz is a highly intelligent and compassionate Black man, though not highly educated.
             
            The reason he is not educated is because his own mother discouraged him from advancing.  His mother, like so many of our people who were and still are victims of the racism that engrained in us that we were not a capable people, did not recognize his talent and his genius.  In a white home, rr would have been told that he was bright and could achieve and excel to the fullest extent! 
             
            I have earned a Doctorate in Public Administration because throughout my childhood my parents encouraged me, thought me smart and put their money where their mouths were.  My sisters and I had piano lessons; and, as soon as we graduated from elementary school we attended Cortez W. Peters Business College, name for a Black typing genius.  They did this because they only wanted us to take college prep courses in high school but they wanted us to have business skills.
             
            My story is not typical of so many Black youngsters.  I grew up in an affluent white community near the University of Chicago where the schools were some of the best in the nation.
             
            I attended Northwestern University and received a Masters’ Degree.  RR was offered a scholarship to Northwestern but did not take it because all of his life he was told that he was not smart.  This is a tragedy!  In spite of that RR taught himself many skills that few can master.
             
            RR knows Black history and the plight of Americans of African descent.  He is not bitter, but he is knowledgeable.
             
            I met RR over the Internet and he has been a guest in my home.  I will send you a copy of the letter that I wrote to my local newspaper editor which was picked up by AP and then made its way to the Internet and I started getting calls from people all over the world, including RR.
             
            We call ourselves Conductors on the Modern Day Internet Railroad, a la Harriett Tubman who said she freed thousands of slaves and could have saved thousands more if only they had known they were slaves.  We. Conductors, are carrying on where Harriett left off.  We are educating our people and trying to awaken them to open their eyes, think for themselves and do their due diligence so they will be aware of what is happening in this country and why.
             
            When I wrote to our Conductors about the plight of a young Black high school graduate who wanted to go to college, RR was the first to respond to send money to an unknown child living in a different state.
             
            To know RR is a privilege for those who do not know him have missed an opportunity to know an angel, though unaware.
             
            Helen L. Burleson, Doctor of Public Administration,
             

        • Fitfour

          Tell me why is that both black man and caucasian man can do the same crime (as stats show) yet the black man gets a harsher sentence?

          Please allow your warpness to educate me on this one point.

          • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

            Did I not say that black men and white men serve different sentences for the same crime and that it was because of racism?

            Black youths get taught by their parents how to behave around cops due to racial profiling and how the cops treat blacks. This is a perfect example of good parenting. It’s a perfect example of racism but that’s another discussion for another time.

            So how come, knowing that blacks get tougher sentences for drugs, don’t black parents teach kids about drugs the same way they teach them about how to behave around cops?

            Then there’s still the simple fact that it’s a personal decision to participate in drugs. A responsible parent does not risk going to jail by participating in drugs.

          • http://twitter.com/ajtaylor317 Ali Jamar Taylor

            So in essence what you’re saying is that Black men should be absolutely perfect, blameless, without ever making a mistake and then they won’t have any trouble? 

          • Okpara

            Yes, you are a white man with a black wife. But that does not secure you in knowing anything about the black experience. Parents of children in this country have been “brainwashed” just as you have been as a white male. You assume that the problems of our children is due to the lack omf education provided to children by their parents. What is int that you believe that black parents should teach their child? Maybe, not to trust any white man, because they have proven through history not to be trust: They lie, they cheat, they steal, they kill, they rape, they destroy nature and everything they touch in the name of a God. This would be the ultimate truth that should be taught in order to protect their children and the rest of the world. Should we also be teaching our children that racism displayed by whites is a mental health problem as diagnosed by Dr. Alvin Poussaint. As whites would take their children to a lynching of black people and take pictures of them having a good time. If this is not a sickness, what is it? But, whites don’t want to admit that the problems of the world are Them! Because they revel in the destruction of others. If it were not so, it would not be happening. Prove it not to be the case?

          • Okpara

            Yes, you are a white man with a black wife. But that does not secure you in knowing anything about the black experience. Parents of children in this country have been “brainwashed” just as you have been as a white male. You assume that the problems of our children is due to the lack omf education provided to children by their parents. What is int that you believe that black parents should teach their child? Maybe, not to trust any white man, because they have proven through history not to be trust: They lie, they cheat, they steal, they kill, they rape, they destroy nature and everything they touch in the name of a God. This would be the ultimate truth that should be taught in order to protect their children and the rest of the world. Should we also be teaching our children that racism displayed by whites is a mental health problem as diagnosed by Dr. Alvin Poussaint. As whites would take their children to a lynching of black people and take pictures of them having a good time. If this is not a sickness, what is it? But, whites don’t want to admit that the problems of the world are Them! Because they revel in the destruction of others. If it were not so, it would not be happening. Prove it not to be the case?

          • Poppichulo79

            True but pointless statement

          • http://www.facebook.com/melvin.whitfieldbey Melvin Bub J Whitfield-Bey

            Because black kids like all kids in america live in a capitolistic society which states that money is the most important thing in the world,,its deeper than any of you seem to thnk,at least it seem that way.

          • Rrchicagojazz

            I AM SICK OF YOU.RIGHT NOW I AM LOOKING @ DR PHIL AND ALL THESE MIDDLE CLASS WHITE GIRLS SHOOTING HEROIN,DRINKING TIL THEY BLACK OUT AND HAVING SEX WITH ANY AND EVERYBODY IN SITE OF THEM.TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS .WHITE PEOPLE DO MORE DRUGS THEN BLACKS COULD EVER DO BUT THEY GET A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD EVERYTIME..JUST LAST MONTH I SAW A SHOW ON PBS ABOUT METH[THE WHITE MANS CRACK].ON THE WEST COST WHITES WHERE DOING SO MUCH METH THE CRIME RATE GOT UNBEARABLE .WELL IN COME WHITE LAW MAKERS TO THE RECUE.THEY LEGALIZED METH IN THAT PART OF THE COUNTRY SO THAT THEY COULD PICK UP METH @ THE DRUG STORE.YOU NEED TO GET OFF OF HERE AND GO TALK TO ALL THOSE WHITE PEOPLE WHO ARE DRUG OUT ,CAUSE THERE ARE MILLIONS OF THEM.

        • cw

          Why didn’t you respond to BlackHusbandBlackWife’s comments? I’m just curious why you feel so comfortable in lecturing black men on what they need to do?  Is this a refrain that you heard from your Black Wife?

        • http://www.facebook.com/melvin.whitfieldbey Melvin Bub J Whitfield-Bey

          Dude we are talking about 18 yr olds and younger how many stupid mistakes did you make at 18,regardless of the mistake made the young folks  are sent off in droves due to the war on drugs which s a war on the poor and disenfranchised

      • Mayne

        Why must you resort to name calling? That’s wasn’t necessary.

      • Debbibrown

        That last comment was truly not nesasary…He was is totally right ! stop making excuses The time for “CHANGE” is NOW …I was that young black single parent. we must change that statisticSTOP SELLING & DISTRIBUTING drugs in our OWN community !

        • Okpara

          Yes, we need to stop selling drugs in the black communities, as soon as the “government” stops bringing it over from other countries and giving it to the poor and uneducated in the black communities to sell. We know it’s a fact because they admitted to it in the Freedom of Information Act. Is so easy to blame the victims when you don’t know the cause of the affects.

          • SapphiresMomma

            Okpara,

            And just when will the “poor and uneducated” in the black communities WAKE UP, and educate themselves?

            How many decades longer will that take?

            We have been saying that the gov/whites bring us the drugs to use and sell for decades, and apparently we must truly be a stupid people because we just don’t get it!

            The government/whites or whom ever can bring anything they want to the black community, but it is up to us to reject it!

            Man! We need to stop placking blame on others for our negative behavior!  We have been there done that, now what do we do?

          • http://www.facebook.com/melvin.whitfieldbey Melvin Bub J Whitfield-Bey

            We dont exist as a community!!! WE exist as most american ,,,as individuals

          • Rrchicagojazz

            Sapphire, rrchicagojazz is a highly intelligent and compassionate Black man, though not highly educated.
             
            The reason he is not educated is because his own mother discouraged him from advancing.  His mother, like so many of our people who were and still are victims of the racism that engrained in us that we were not a capable people, did not recognize his talent and his genius.  In a white home, rr would have been told that he was bright and could achieve and excel to the fullest extent! 
             
            I have earned a Doctorate in Public Administration because throughout my childhood my parents encouraged me, thought me smart and put their money where their mouths were.  My sisters and I had piano lessons; and, as soon as we graduated from elementary school we attended Cortez W. Peters Business College, name for a Black typing genius.  They did this because they only wanted us to take college prep courses in high school but they wanted us to have business skills.
             
            My story is not typical of so many Black youngsters.  I grew up in an affluent white community near the University of Chicago where the schools were some of the best in the nation.
             
            I attended Northwestern University and received a Masters’ Degree.  RR was offered a scholarship to Northwestern but did not take it because all of his life he was told that he was not smart.  This is a tragedy!  In spite of that RR taught himself many skills that few can master.
             
            RR knows Black history and the plight of Americans of African descent.  He is not bitter, but he is knowledgeable.
             
            I met RR over the Internet and he has been a guest in my home.  I will send you a copy of the letter that I wrote to my local newspaper editor which was picked up by AP and then made its way to the Internet and I started getting calls from people all over the world, including RR.
             
            We call ourselves Conductors on the Modern Day Internet Railroad, a la Harriett Tubman who said she freed thousands of slaves and could have saved thousands more if only they had known they were slaves.  We. Conductors, are carrying on where Harriett left off.  We are educating our people and trying to awaken them to open their eyes, think for themselves and do their due diligence so they will be aware of what is happening in this country and why.
             
            When I wrote to our Conductors about the plight of a young Black high school graduate who wanted to go to college, RR was the first to respond to send money to an unknown child living in a different state.
             
            To know RR is a privilege for those who do not know him have missed an opportunity to know an angel, though unaware.
             
            Helen L. Burleson, Doctor of Public Administration,
             

          • Rrchicagojazz

            YOU ARE A FOOL.

          • SapphiresMomma

            Okpara,

            And just when will the “poor and uneducated” in the black communities WAKE UP, and educate themselves?

            How many decades longer will that take?

            We have been saying that the gov/whites bring us the drugs to use and sell for decades, and apparently we must truly be a stupid people because we just don’t get it!

            The government/whites or whom ever can bring anything they want to the black community, but it is up to us to reject it!

            Man! We need to stop placking blame on others for our negative behavior!  We have been there done that, now what do we do?

        • Rrchicagojazz

          YOU FOOL.YOU NEED TO GO ON YOU TUBE AND LOOK @ A VIDEO CALL THE AMERICAN DRUG WAR.THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL YOU KNOW THAT YOUR GOVERMENT IS THE ONE DISTRIBUTHING DRUGS IN THE HOOD .DO YOU HOMEWORK.

    • Shysubshe

      yes!! say it again & again & again & again & again & again!!!!

    • Shelly D

      Although your comments are well-versed, and your argument is viable, you are still missing the point of Dr. Watkins assessment of BET.  Understanding that your are white, would give you little insight outside of statistical facts, even if you have black children. 

      Yes, parenting is a major component in the effective raising of children.  But, you speak as if you are unaware of peer pressure, catchy beats, and observation.

      Believe it or not, those are a few components that are actually line up right after parenting.  As an African-American mother of 3 boys, that were teenagers in the 90’s at the height of being killed for starter jackets, the rise of “gangsta rap” and a single parent, (although single, it was because of divorce) I recognize too well how those other factors play a role in the development of young black males. 

      You are dead on when you say that black men have a choice whether to be  a better parent than they had.  But, the dynamics of the single parent (especially the mother – recognizing that single parents can be men as well), is the time that they spend away from the child to make a living.  This means that the child or children are not in your back pocket or purse everyday, so monitoring all actions by them would be impossible.  This scenario can be mistaken for an uncaring parent who isn’t trying to teach their children right from wrong.  A lot of statistics would stamp a seal on this giving the wrong impression.

      NWA, which I consider to be one of the most outrageous rap groups to be allowed to spew forth a whole new legacy of the hip-hop gangsta rap culture, was group that gave us such NOW respectable actors as Ice Cube, pulled an entire generation into the depths of human carnage.  My boys were infatuated with their music and lyrics because it gave them a way to channel their frustration of being without their father, who after losing a well paying job, became so depressed about it, he started to “free-base” cocaine.  This led me to throw him out, because I did not want my children to be taken down as he went down.  Of course that sent me and my family into the “dysfunctional category” because we are a minority.

      Had my family been white, and with great resources, I could have thrown him out and our lifestyles would have never changed, with the exception that I would have been able to get my sons counseling if need be to deal with their loss.

      This is where “celebrities” like Lil Wayne come in today.  They fill a gap for a generation of young people who are still searching for their meaning in tough situations.  The lyrics allow them to lash out at what they perceive to be an unfair life that they must live.  Even though that’s not true, Lil’ Wayned and others give them the impression through their music, that this is the way you should handle these negativities. 

      As I said observation is a key component as well.  Young folks today look at what is going on in the world, such as corrupt politicians, the history of slavery, the effects of crack on their community, the ability to obtain weapons, what can happen if you don’t have a weapon to protect yourself, and the most important thing, their families’ inability to support itself.  These factors allow a window to open where a rapper, such as Lil Wayne can get in.  Not for all, but for many.
      And one is too many.

      I commend Dr. Watkins on his expression of this topic.  Shutting down the system that supports it, such as the BET awards would be one of the best things that we could do.  Because just saying that parents are the only key to stop this destruction, is a moot effort.

      • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

        Thanks for your reply. It’s not that I don’t understand the allure of catchy beats, peer pressure, and observation. It’s just that I understand THAT IS A TIME when a parent has to be the most vigilant. That is when the parent needs to tell the child that while those things may seem cool, not only is it bad for them but that you as a parent FORBID the pursuit of it. It’s fine to listen. It’s fine to dress the dress or write your own lyrics. But it’s not who the child is.

        I remember when kids were being shot for their starter jackets. I remember when kids were killing for a Triple Fat Goose too. Because I wanted one. Bad. And my mother, being aware of the danger these jackets drew, explicitly forbid me to get one. That was good parenting. She didn’t cave to my pleas. She stuck to her guns because she realized that I would get over the desire to have one alot sooner than I would get over possibly being crippled by taking a bullet to my spine because some fool wanted my jacket. I was too narrow-minded to see that danger but that is where the parent needs to do their work the most.

        I do understand there is a double edged sword to being a single parent in that you have to work harder to support your children but by doing so that takes you out of their life while you’re at work and now they have no parental supervision. That is exactly the point I am trying to make – that is why parenting is a two-person job! There always needs to be someone around to guide our children and ensure they aren’t getting caught up in the stupidity. Someone needs to be around to tell the kid “Lil Wayne is good for entertainment but he’s not a life coach.” while the other parent is working.

        I am not trying to suggest that single black mothers are bad parents. Quite the contrary! I think black women who are single parents and successfully raise their children are true heroes! I know I couldn’t do what they are doing. All I am suggesting is that THEY NEED HELP and black men are dropping the ball on this.

        • oldwiseandcurious

          The answer is the Lord.  The problem is the misinterpretation of the free exercise clause in the first amendment, since the 1960’s.  Black families’ bond used to be tight as nails: and that during a time of depression and poverty.  We had nothing of material value.  What has changed….? mmmmm

          • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

            What misinterpretation?

            I’m an atheist so I’d be more than happy to debate you on religion and God.

          • Cooldreamz

            I am a black woman that grew up listening to rock music, they told me in these songs to kill myself and that life sucks my mother and father were good parents but peer pressure is based on the individual dealing with it I would not be pressured by my peers but by rock stars sure, I thought they were so cool and felt my pain… oh yeah watching a movie about runaways made me want to run away

            parenting is important but it is not going to stop that child from developing into whatever they become, we are all indiniduals, so some children may not take the music so literally and others may, Dr. Boyce wrote this in concern for the children that do take it literally,

            WhiteHusbandBlackWife  you said most of white America understands that the lifestyles portrayed in the music is fictitious and not a model to be imitated

            I’ll repeat we are all individuals I am from the suburbs so it wasn’t until I was older that I realized from other family members that live in rural areas it is not fictitious, some children walk out the house every morning not knowing if they’ll make it back that evening. Inner city youth are not imitating the lifestyle, they are amongst that, a kid in the suburbs can’t grab a gun a soot someone that wronged them (not without consequences) black youth have that choice because they’ve seen people get away with murders ( The person that murdered my cousins is still a free man) so they are aware there might not be consequences behind their actions and must make a choice of how to deal with it and they are more likely to make the wrong choice and go down the wrong path when it is glorified and encouraged by someone that they can relate to – a rapper (successful black person) from their kind of environment  so it is irresponsible of the artist who is well aware of the situation in the “hood” to continue to make this type of music 

            The longing for someone who understands the hardships – is the rapper who came from the same land where it is survival of the fittest (a mobb deep song)  everyday of their life…But what about the kid like me that wants to copy what they hear and see until they get old enough to realize why these shouldn’t do as these celebrities tell them…he may not get the chance to grow old enough to have this realization because he’s already made the wrong choice encouraged by the words of lil wayne.

          • Esoterics72

            If you TRULY want to debate the topic of Creation -vs- Evolution, then call Southwestern Christian College in Texas and state your Premise. But, remember that to create means to make something from nothing_ only God can/has done that. All others only reconstructs (manufactures) something from existing matter. I challenge you to prove otherwise!

          • Esoterics72

            If you TRULY want to debate the topic of Creation -vs- Evolution, then call Southwestern Christian College in Texas and state your Premise. But, remember that to create means to make something from nothing_ only God can/has done that. All others only reconstructs (manufactures) something from existing matter. I challenge you to prove otherwise!

          • KnowledgeBias

            What actual proof is there that this is true? The Bible? Which was written by man? Humans have the innate ability to over simplify certain things. This is sometimes a good thing and alot of times a very bad thing. Since the early stages of human life we did not fully understand how it was that we got here, and how we were so different than other species on this planet. So since we could not explain this, then it was automatically assumed that there was some “Devine Creator.” And now that it has been beat into our heads for centuries, we take it as the norm; when it is this thought process that has helped limit our abilities as human beings. We are at the threshold of understanding more things in our Universe, yet this idea of “God” is hindering us.
            Humans make something out of nothing every day, its called a thought process, thats how Atheism came about.

          • Jhall427

            You are an atheist? What a load of bullshit. Hell, even the Devil believes in God!!!

            To quote the comedian Ron White, “you can fix a lot of things, but you cannot fix stupid!”.

          • KnowledgeBias

            You sir make that last quote passable.

            Of course the “Devil” would believe in your “God,” he created him in your book.

            LOL

          • Matt

            Are you retarded?

          • Janice G Washington

            If the answer is the Lord, then where is He?  Where was He during the holocaust, slavery, 9/11 and Katrina?  This continual meme of “the answer is teh Lord,” vague as the meme is, at some point has got to prove itself out.  Repeating what others have repeated to you does nothing to further the cause of Christianity, nor does it solve anything.  If the answer is the Lord, then there wouldn’t be a problem for any of us to be talking about.

          • CW

            Right on Point Janice!

          • Listeningto

            Here is something we all should know about the lord during slavery. It was abolitionist that fought hard to get slaves out of bondage.  It was Nat Turner who caused the slave rebellion in Southampton county of Virginia that started the uprising to free blacks.  He was a faithful Christian who claimed to be following the voice of God before he went out into battle.  Many may ask how could he murder and follow the voice of God at the same time. Easy, if someone put you in a war, what else is there left to do but fight.  It was churches all through the south that put their lives at risk to make sure that the next man can be free and many of them died as well by protecting them. It was a Pastor name Martin Luther King Jr. that marched and went to jail over twenty times for blacks to obtain equality within this racist land. God has no control over the decisions man makes. When you underestimate God you glorify the devil.  That’s what’s wrong with this world now.  We underestimate the powers of this Dark Age.  

          • BlackBoi

            LMAO!

            CHRISTIANITY AND SLAVERY

            The largest slave trade in the history of the world was created by Christian
            European nations (Include the United States*).  This is a fact.

            It is also a fact that the Bible has many verses defending slavery.

            In America before the Civil War, the majority of evangelical Christians were
            totally convinced that “their personal relationship with Jesus Christ”
            authorized them to own slaves.

            Some evangelical factions in recent times did oppose the slave trade. 
            In England they helped abolish it in the early 19th century.  The radical abolitionist John Brown defended
            his raid at Harper’s Ferry, Virginia in 1859 as an act against slavery born out
            of his Christian conviction.

            However, throughout most of Christian history slavery has been a reality that
            has received the official sanction of the church.   Leading figures in the Catholic Church,
            from St. Augustine, to numerous popes, to consider the enslavement of human
            beings to be a perfectly acceptable practice sanctioned by God.  After the
            Reformation, this was a tradition that carried over into many Protestant sects
            as well.

            The set of quotes below makes clear the depth of pro-slavery sentiment within
            the history of Christianity.  They are not intended to be an exhaustive
            list.  Rather, they are but a fraction of justifications based on Scripture
            that were used to uphold the existence of slavery.

            http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Religion/slavery.htm

            Educate Yourself You Heathen!

          • MissAnn

            I hear what you and everyone else  are saying here, but just because they called themselves so-called ” Christians”, doesn’t mean were TRUE followers of Christ, which is what being a true Christian is…being a follower of Jesus Christ.

          • Tekguitar

            i agree with most of your comments however, there are people who use the bible, religion,politics & whatever else to justify their wrong doings..it’s not religion itself that’s bad..it’s the people who CLAIM to be religious and change the words & meanings of the faith to fit their own needs.

          • Tekguitar

            i agree with most of your comments however, there are people who use the bible, religion,politics & whatever else to justify their wrong doings..it’s not religion itself that’s bad..it’s the people who CLAIM to be religious and change the words & meanings of the faith to fit their own needs.

          • Sbg0718

            The Lord is right where He has always been!  He did not move the chain, we (mankind) did!!  We consistently bend or break the rules to suit ourselves, then cry foul if He doesn’t rush right in to rescue us out of our self imposed dilemnas.  Furthermore, even when He has intervened on our behalf (and there are many who can testify that He has, including me) we either ungratefully dismiss Him or set out to screw things up all over again.  It’s not His fault we refuse to follow His guidebook and keep shooting ourselves in the foot!!  He created us, but we act like we created Him and like He’s our personal Step-n-fetchit!!

          • =/

            really?if god were to appear to us in flesh as a man…everyone would follow him?everyone would then believe? if you are a rational person then you would know the honest answer  to that would be no.i dont see the point in debating or being condescending when regardless…some people would still reject god.arrogance,superiority complex,and ego…a few reasons why.even if god walked this earth someone would not like it.so cut the bull.the bible even states that we have choices and freewill.cause and effect.that explains your 911 etc.why would god say we have free will and turn around and control every single thing?people wouldnt even cherish life if they couldnt lose life.hell some people dont now.what grown man throws a tantrum everytime someone mentions god anyway?like..grow up! its their choice to believe what they want.oh i get it! you’d rather play god and have everyone to believe you and your story about how the world evolved….umm write a book and get over it.

          • CW

            The Lord??  That was because few options other than The Lord where available to black families.  Jim Crow forced us to be tight as nails.  

        • BlackHusbandBlackWife

          I am a African American father who raised four children.  I am aware of the problems we face as a culture.  I raised 2 sons 2 daughters and clearly understand at the experience level what peer pressure and teenage rebellion looks like.  I wonder how old your children are?  Do you even have any children?  Until you have experience this phenomenon (teenage angst) and more specifically (young black male teenage angst) your words are only theories and ideologies.  I have gone through the fire with my sons.  I have counseled, prayed, supported there efforts for their complete lives.  Yet I must say that it is tough…  The teenage years are both humbling, painful, and rarely rewarding, but I wouldn’t trade the experience for anything in the world. 

          I notice that you seemed to have a lot of statistics yet what I see (I live in a very culturally mixed area) is children of all socio-economic levels who are messed up.  You are seriously delusional  if you think little white kids are not being effected by the phenomenon of rap!  I see it everyday.  My wife is an educator who she sees it everyday.  I am not talking theories here, my friend.  I am in the trenches and I am working hard.

          So far I have three college grads and the youngest has given me a run for my money but I am determined to hold him down until he finds that path.  He’s got one year of college under his belt and he is touch and go with the next one. 

          What I got when I read your post is that you need to engage.  Yes you are reading and maybe even watching TV but it is time to touch the lives of those you are spout statistics about.  Lil Wayne is not someone I want my children to like (thankfully they all seem to think he is “whack”) but I am about stopping the bleeding from both ends, not just stopping the ears of my children but also changing rap rhetoric.  

          I have one question.  If a family moved into your neighborhood that seemed to be the most hip coolest family and their children were very popular but were real bad influences, how confident are you that you could shield your children from their influence?  would you not want them to leave your neighborhood?  That is what I want for Lil Wayne…  I want him to just leave.  He makes it more difficult when he could do the opposite.

        • Listeningto

          I’m sorry, what’s so entertaining about threatening the lives of women and kids. You just don’t get it.

      • DWimbelyeffect

        Shelly, you said, “Yes, parenting is a major component (it is by far the SINGLE most important ingredient) in the effective raising of
        children.  But, you speak as if you are unaware of peer pressure, catchy
        beats, and observation.”

        Parenting is the FOUNDATION.  Peer pressure cannot stand up against parenting pressure.  Catchy beats cannot stand up against parenting words/actions of wisdom.  Observation is key.  If children’s minds are filled with images of their destruction (some BET videos, weaponized lyrics, etc.) WITHOUT alternate images of black love, self-respect, etc. then it is proven to be effective.

        No, I am sure (though I do not know you or your boys) that you were more than equal to the task of providing a defensive mindset to the images that sought to destroy your sons.

        WhiteHusbandBlackWife is completely correct.  There is a statistical certainty that our children will continue this cycle of violence unless they are given images to follow that counter this madness.

        This is OVERWHELMINGLY done in each home with daily interaction through parenting.  This is the change we need.  Parenting is creating a system to protect your children so they can grow.  That system takes expert building, learning, responsibility.  We as a black community are abandoning these items specifically.  We can spot bad parenting a mile away, starting in our own homes.  Do NOT have friends whose children do not have your values.  Do NOT let anything into your home that will lead to your or their destruction.

        Do parent your child and demand that anyone who wants to be in your social circle do the same.  If they refuse, refuse them entry.  Now that is common sense that will build a nation.

        By the way, son 11, great soccer player, 96th and 98th percentile in reading and math with straight As.  Daughter, 18, attending a state university this fall on scholarship.  Says she wants to be a pediatrician.  Awesome dancer, too.

        • Shelly D

          DW, I am happy for your son’s accomplishments and think that is awesome that your children have not been affected.  I do not think that I gave the impression that that it was not vital for children to have good parenting.  You are also missing the point as well.  You can be an excellent parent and see your child fail.  It doesn’t always have to be a reflection of parenting.  As cooldreamz said, they are all individuals.  And conditions on the ground can be a very silent, coercive force.  If you had the luxury of having a parent work outside the home, so that the other can monitor the activities of the child, then teriific!  Far too often this is not the case.  And my bigger point is that other external factors play into the raising of children.   I was also making the point that statistics, no matter how they are exalted, do not give you a definitive view of what makes a single home. 

          You said that our children need images.  They have images.  Is not Barack Obama’s presidency not the most gleaming example of what they can be now? 

          Young people, who we know are very impressionable, do like catchy beats.  Black or white.  They do like the sounds of some of the songs and the look of what “balling” can bring to them.  Even though these balling rap artists, do not live these lifestyles that they rap about.  As soon as they make their first million, they buy an upscale home in the burbs and send their children to private school.  But, the kids who listen to this have no reference of that.  Like whitehusband, this is way over your head as well.

          • DWimbelyeffect

            Shelly D,

            I did somewhat miss your original point.  I apologize.  This is a topic very dear to me.  Think I got a little emotional. :-)

            I do however, think that parenting is about creating a system of images and interpretation of images that I condone as well as protect them from those I do not, for my children.  I come from a two parent household where both parents worked.  My wife comes from a single parent household.  We now both work and have advanced degrees.  Our goal is your goal, to eradicate these destructive forces from our children’s lives and in our community.

            Do want to say that I have been around for awhile.  This is definitely NOT over my head, you’d be surprised.  I’m not just spouting “words” but I’m involved in a National organization called Jack and Jill of America where I serve as an auxiliary father (safety and security, mentoring, etc.) for them.  I work in education and taught in a large urban area in the poorest of communities for 15 years, coached, and mentored, etc.

            My point is that what is clear to me is that parenting is by FAR the most effective way to protect your child and giving  peer pressure, television images, or any force that is destroying our children power is weak parenting.  Children reflect their parenting more than ANY OTHER influence.  To think that your children leave your influence and are susceptible to destructive influences is to say that your parenting was ineffective.  All of us make bad choices from time to time, but my (and your) children have been trained for YEARS to realize that they have a choice and better make the RIGHT one.

            I’m not trying to save the world…just my kids.  Do the same.

          • MLiza

            Thank you for at least conceding a misinterpretation.  Unlike others who are attempting to put the parents at the blame, please believe me that even with good parental influences much can “slip through the cracks.”  I can’t tell you how many good parents are unaware of some of the misdeeds of their children and are amazed when it is proven that many mistakes are made and unappealing behaviors become evident in classroom, school and social situations to the parent’s dismay — no matter how well they tried.  Usually the total effects of such maladaptive behavioe may not be lasting, but young people can engage in untoward activitiy and also support many artists that their parents never have an inkling they are listening to — particularly with the introduction of IPODS into our children’s life.  What parent is actually going to sift through all the words of the artists on their child’s IPOD or even CD collection.  Be for Real.  I have encountered many parents who do not have a clue nor a handle on their child’s actual outside behavior although they may try.  I applaud you that you made the right efforts and thank God that you were fortunate to be successful.  And while it may be true that parents must make the effort to make a good impression on their child’s mentality and morals, the truth of the matter is that we can only hope and pray for the best results.  Peer pressure and opportunity often win out in the end.  And even if they do not have that music in their collection, when you least expect they can hear it from any peer they encounter.  Many also do not listen to the words but are attracted by the beat.  Because I try to listen to what my “children” (Students) are listening to when I can force myself to enter their world at times for knowledge purposes, I myself was pulled in by one of the beats on a 50 Cents song, but I felt the words were demeaning to Black women and could not continue to listen to him — and little ot others as well but just enough to try to be knowledgeable and current with young people that I do try to influence to do the right thing.  (That was in the past; I am now retired and don’t even try that any more.) 

            I’m just saying that while parenting plays a part, it is not the crux of the matter.  I would much rather engage in a movement to significantly affect the problem where it starts:  with the music industry and the artists.  I believe they can be encouraged to make more positive and beneficial lyrics if we get the right people to influence them.

            Was anyone surprised that P. Diddy and Russell Simmons and some others were able to harness some of this energy to get out the Youth Votes for Obama?  This shows that change is possible.  In the past Jessie Jackson has also attempted to engage those in the industry to modify their lyrics.  There have been HipHop conferences with other Black leaders of note also with others in the industry, and they have attempted to impact these artists.  These efforts must persist.   It just has to come from a respected source in a respectful manner.  Relying on parental guidance is certainly not enough.

      • Gwen Wood

        WELL SAID! Mahalo for an excellently written piece of truth, logic & well-informed opinions.  Jus’ sayin’ by Gwen Wood, Honolulu, HI

      • Mahoganyone

        Thank you for your detailed posting. You left me nothing to add and I am in total agreement with your positions.

      • JazmineLives4God

        I agree, as a parent myself, I cannot control what my son listens to. I influence his decisions as much as I can. I strongly believe if I set the foundation of his life, I do not have to worry about anything else.

    • Shelly D

      Although your comments are well-versed, and your argument is viable, you are still missing the point of Dr. Watkins assessment of BET.  Understanding that your are white, would give you little insight outside of statistical facts, even if you have black children. 

      Yes, parenting is a major component in the effective raising of children.  But, you speak as if you are unaware of peer pressure, catchy beats, and observation.

      Believe it or not, those are a few components that are actually line up right after parenting.  As an African-American mother of 3 boys, that were teenagers in the 90’s at the height of being killed for starter jackets, the rise of “gangsta rap” and a single parent, (although single, it was because of divorce) I recognize too well how those other factors play a role in the development of young black males. 

      You are dead on when you say that black men have a choice whether to be  a better parent than they had.  But, the dynamics of the single parent (especially the mother – recognizing that single parents can be men as well), is the time that they spend away from the child to make a living.  This means that the child or children are not in your back pocket or purse everyday, so monitoring all actions by them would be impossible.  This scenario can be mistaken for an uncaring parent who isn’t trying to teach their children right from wrong.  A lot of statistics would stamp a seal on this giving the wrong impression.

      NWA, which I consider to be one of the most outrageous rap groups to be allowed to spew forth a whole new legacy of the hip-hop gangsta rap culture, was group that gave us such NOW respectable actors as Ice Cube, pulled an entire generation into the depths of human carnage.  My boys were infatuated with their music and lyrics because it gave them a way to channel their frustration of being without their father, who after losing a well paying job, became so depressed about it, he started to “free-base” cocaine.  This led me to throw him out, because I did not want my children to be taken down as he went down.  Of course that sent me and my family into the “dysfunctional category” because we are a minority.

      Had my family been white, and with great resources, I could have thrown him out and our lifestyles would have never changed, with the exception that I would have been able to get my sons counseling if need be to deal with their loss.

      This is where “celebrities” like Lil Wayne come in today.  They fill a gap for a generation of young people who are still searching for their meaning in tough situations.  The lyrics allow them to lash out at what they perceive to be an unfair life that they must live.  Even though that’s not true, Lil’ Wayned and others give them the impression through their music, that this is the way you should handle these negativities. 

      As I said observation is a key component as well.  Young folks today look at what is going on in the world, such as corrupt politicians, the history of slavery, the effects of crack on their community, the ability to obtain weapons, what can happen if you don’t have a weapon to protect yourself, and the most important thing, their families’ inability to support itself.  These factors allow a window to open where a rapper, such as Lil Wayne can get in.  Not for all, but for many.
      And one is too many.

      I commend Dr. Watkins on his expression of this topic.  Shutting down the system that supports it, such as the BET awards would be one of the best things that we could do.  Because just saying that parents are the only key to stop this destruction, is a moot effort.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J27C3H6GLGUBGP33LDHNCD7WDU ATRUERAIDERFAN

      Wow…..That should open the minds of alot of Blackmen. Just because you said it would get me riled up  and want to change. Thanks for being blount to the invisible black father’s out there.

    • Macran22

      I think your response should have less of a broad brush stroke. I am a black man, my father is a black man, his father was a black man. Get the picture? By the way, I work in a prison. I see MANY young white kids trying to emulate what they see in RAP. Look beyond the statistics.

      • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

        Sorry if I came off that way. I was referring to the men relevant to the 2 statistics I gave. Over 60% of black women are single. And 67% of black kids are in a single parent home. I have no doubt there are some black men who are the single parent, but I think we can all agree that it’s primarily the black women who are the single parents.

        So all in all, it’s about 2 of every 3 black men who aren’t stepping up to the plate in some way, shape, or form.

        • DWimbelyeffect

          I have to wonder… “67% of black kids are in a single parent home”  How EXACTLY does that equate to “…it’s about 2 of every 3 black men who aren’t stepping up to the plate?” What plate?  The marriage plate?  The parenting plate?

          Your judgement is the same media “story” that sells us the idea that since black men and women are not getting married, yet still having children, the men are somehow not “stepping up to the plate.”  What does that mean to you?  What are you saying?

          This is where charges of you being a biased poster are coming out.  While I prefer the scenario of husbands and wives raising children, I live in the community where many are not married, but are nonetheless raising the children together.

          Don’t judge people because they don’t act like you, WhiteHusband.  Rather help out your “sister’s-in-law” instead of driving a further wedge into the family you joined (your comments showed your bias toward the men who most likely will grow and mature to better understand their roles in the lives of their families and despite your venom, they are STILL the children’s FATHERS).

          To think that these men are lost causes, or speak of them with the venom you do, shows that you are following the footsteps of the ENEMY of our community; All judgement, no help.

          Stop it.

    • Fan of Gil Scott-Heron

      blacks artists are NOT the role models for white kids. However, black musicians are the role models for black kids hence the effect hip-hop has on white kids are different to the effect on black kids. white kids have a lot of positive rich and upstanding role models that pervade the media than do black kids. white are the largest consumer of hip-hop music in terms of PURCHASES because they outnumber blacks and have more spending power. however, a black child is the largest consumer in terms of time spent listening to hiphop. white parents keep their children busy in a large number of extracurricular events leaving a lot less time to spend listening to hip hope. black parents CANNOT afford such positive distractions for their children.

      • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

        RIP Gil Scott-Heron!

        I have to disagree regarding white kids role models. I grew up poor in Paterson, NJ. Look it up when you get a chance. My kindergarten picture looks like the inverse of the fly in the rice pudding – I was the only white kid amongst all black kids. My parents were far from rich, far from wealthy. However my father worked 2 jobs, 7 days a week. Sure, the stress of working turned him into an alcoholic, but he sacrificed his life in order to be responsible for the children HE CHOSE TO HAVE.

        I could have followed in his footsteps. I could have taken up the bottle and worked night-shift at Toys R Us in addition to a regular job and worked so much that I never really saw my kids, and when I did, I was so bitter at having to work so much that I yelled and screamed at them. But I didn’t go that path. I chose to break the cycle. I chose to learn how to be a father by doing the OPPOSITE of what my father did. The only redeeming quality I retained from my father was his work ethic.

        Also, I am 37 years old. My life runs parallel to the history of hip-hop. I remember when Cool Herc threw his first party in the Bronx. I remember vividly hip-hop from the beginning, to the golden age of the late 80’s early 90’s to the shift to gangsta. To be honest, one of my favorite artists was Paris – very black nationalist, kill whitey lyrics. So what was different, despite my growing up poor, that led me to only absorb the positive lyrics of hip-hop and reject the negative? I find it hard to believe others can’t do the same. Hell, my wife grew up in the deepest darkest ghetto in Philly and now she holds a Masters degree. She lived most of her childhood in temporary shelters. What one man can do, another can do. Her mother most certainly not afford positive distractions. It came down to my wife making intelligent choices and refusing to get caught up in the status quo and avoid negative situations.

      • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

        RIP Gil Scott-Heron!

        I have to disagree regarding white kids role models. I grew up poor in Paterson, NJ. Look it up when you get a chance. My kindergarten picture looks like the inverse of the fly in the rice pudding – I was the only white kid amongst all black kids. My parents were far from rich, far from wealthy. However my father worked 2 jobs, 7 days a week. Sure, the stress of working turned him into an alcoholic, but he sacrificed his life in order to be responsible for the children HE CHOSE TO HAVE.

        I could have followed in his footsteps. I could have taken up the bottle and worked night-shift at Toys R Us in addition to a regular job and worked so much that I never really saw my kids, and when I did, I was so bitter at having to work so much that I yelled and screamed at them. But I didn’t go that path. I chose to break the cycle. I chose to learn how to be a father by doing the OPPOSITE of what my father did. The only redeeming quality I retained from my father was his work ethic.

        Also, I am 37 years old. My life runs parallel to the history of hip-hop. I remember when Cool Herc threw his first party in the Bronx. I remember vividly hip-hop from the beginning, to the golden age of the late 80’s early 90’s to the shift to gangsta. To be honest, one of my favorite artists was Paris – very black nationalist, kill whitey lyrics. So what was different, despite my growing up poor, that led me to only absorb the positive lyrics of hip-hop and reject the negative? I find it hard to believe others can’t do the same. Hell, my wife grew up in the deepest darkest ghetto in Philly and now she holds a Masters degree. She lived most of her childhood in temporary shelters. What one man can do, another can do. Her mother most certainly not afford positive distractions. It came down to my wife making intelligent choices and refusing to get caught up in the status quo and avoid negative situations.

        • yeaheyesaidit

          I suggest you do more EXPERIENCING of the Black culture with an open mind and EYES (your Black wife should be able to assist you with this).  Neither you NOR anyone else on this earth is perfect.  White fathers (and families) are just as bad as the next.  The difference comes about when the media and people such as yourself takes the holier than though stance and project your (or a group of people) short comings, situations, etc., onto others to take the attention off yourselves and to make you feel better than/superior over others. 
          I AM A BLACK MAN that have listened to all types of music and still listen to certain types of rap music, educated, and have worked in the education, Human Services, and Entertainment industries at my young age.  
          You stated  “why is it that whites do not experience the same “holocaust” that blacks experience if both groups are listening to the same music? 

          I’ll answer that: It’s because most of white America understands that the lifestyles protrayed in the music is fictitious and not a model to be imitated. And why does white America know that? Parenting.Again, they are White and so are you and neither party(ies) will never know what it is to be Black.  HOWEVER, you all (Whites) still kill each other and other people as well. A great number of you die at the hands of your MOTHERS and FATHERS.  Why is that?  Did Rap music cause the parents to do this or was it beethoven or the “great parenting” of the  societal two parent household.  Then you have the grandparents in the White households covering for the parent who killed the child/children. This is the type of models Whites have to imitate. We won’t even go back to talk about things before you and I were born as far as imitating.  
          All households in EVERY race has single mothers and single fathers.  So society and a number of others feel that two parents in the home is better than one.  What happens when you have two parents in the home and one of the parents happen to be abusive?  
          Parenting entails a GREAT NUMBER of responsibilities and outlooks.  
          I come from a two parent home and Thank God everyday for the parents I have.  I just hope and pray that if you do have children with your Black wife, that you don’t feed them this misleading information about ALL black men, but you would allow and encourage them to learn about both sides of their ancestry (or how ever many is within their blood line). 

          Children are human and just as you and I, they too will have other influences in their lives that you WILL NOT be able to shield them from and they will eventually make their own decisions.  It’s unfortunate that you didn’t grow up around enough Black men because most of the ones I know (and I know a plethora of Black Men) have handled their business and a great number of others.  

          To my Black brothers and sisters out there, let’s get back to the massive business of being a true village and helping one another, each one teach one, not falling victim of all these societal norms.  Brothers we need to continue to build a STRONGER bond an when one is falling short, give him another positive way to look at or resolve the situation.  Our history is rich and it is still here for us to teach and learn (for those who don’t know it).  Don’t let anybody else know more about you and where you came from than you do.  Remember, Knowledge is POWER and when we gather together and learn (especially Black Men) it scares “society”.  They tried to keep us from gathering and learning during slavery (most of them not all of them).  I am proud to be a Black Man because I was a threat to society when I was born and even more of a threat now because I have parents and siblings and relatives who love me, raised my kids and a few cousins as a single FATHER and FATHER figure, we are all either college educated and/or own our own businesses with out small business loans, and we give back and forward when we can, but most importantly we love GOD and GOD loves us All!

    • Fan of Gil Scott-Heron

      blacks artists are NOT the role models for white kids. However, black musicians are the role models for black kids hence the effect hip-hop has on white kids are different to the effect on black kids. white kids have a lot of positive rich and upstanding role models that pervade the media than do black kids. white are the largest consumer of hip-hop music in terms of PURCHASES because they outnumber blacks and have more spending power. however, a black child is the largest consumer in terms of time spent listening to hiphop. white parents keep their children busy in a large number of extracurricular events leaving a lot less time to spend listening to hip hope. black parents CANNOT afford such positive distractions for their children.

    • Bdflo2002

      As with Shelly D’s explanation, the entire issue cannot be pointed to a singular source and as your name suggests, you’d be looking from the outside in only to observe what you’re able to see from a certain vantage point, not understanding that your view is obscured. 

      Parents do not often just choose not to be parents. There are often situations that have caused many different chasms within the family and therefore shifted the weight of influence to those that don’t matter (i.e. “celebrities”, music and friends with similar situations). When there an institution that is geared against you as a minority, especially a minority male, then situations become even more dire. As a participant and contributor to the very same system, you’re perspective is the least bit surprising. To sit here and give you an explanation of the discrepancies would be a waste of my time as my effort is targeted toward making my life better at this moment. 

      You would do well to research more of your perspective before you claim it to be gospel. For now, I will just leave it at this… situations are not always in your control regardless of who you are or what color your skin is, but a lot of times, skin color does provide to be a catalyst in many different situations and often to be in the negative direction. 

    • Bdflo2002

      As with Shelly D’s explanation, the entire issue cannot be pointed to a singular source and as your name suggests, you’d be looking from the outside in only to observe what you’re able to see from a certain vantage point, not understanding that your view is obscured. 

      Parents do not often just choose not to be parents. There are often situations that have caused many different chasms within the family and therefore shifted the weight of influence to those that don’t matter (i.e. “celebrities”, music and friends with similar situations). When there an institution that is geared against you as a minority, especially a minority male, then situations become even more dire. As a participant and contributor to the very same system, you’re perspective is the least bit surprising. To sit here and give you an explanation of the discrepancies would be a waste of my time as my effort is targeted toward making my life better at this moment. 

      You would do well to research more of your perspective before you claim it to be gospel. For now, I will just leave it at this… situations are not always in your control regardless of who you are or what color your skin is, but a lot of times, skin color does provide to be a catalyst in many different situations and often to be in the negative direction. 

      • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

        My wife has 3 sisters. All three are single parents. There are 5 different fathers of their children, all of whom are black. None of them are incarcerated. They are just deadbeat dads who made immature and irresponsible decisions. And all of them had good jobs so it wasn’t a case of the white man not employing them. Here’s the rundown:

        Sister #1: 2 children by 2 different fathers. Father #1 is a Muslim man and, unbeknownst to her, just married her to get his citizenship after which he flew his first wife over to America and shacked up with her. Father #2 is a Muslim man who spends money on shoes and selfish things rather than pay the rent and the electric bill. Both men with good jobs who are idiots.

        Sister #2: 3 children by 2 different fathers. Father #1 married her but had such psychological problems that he had a low sense of self worth and cheated on her numerous times. He had a good paying job and a nice house. Now both of them live on their own and have nothing to show for their money. Husband #2 just made the baby and then couldn’t be a real father because HE WAS ALREADY MARRIED WITH KIDS.

        Sister #3: 1 child. Father is a man in name only. He has the mentality of an 18 year old. Has no desire to get a job. In his late 20’s but still lives at home with mommy. Can’t cook for himself, doesn’t do his own laundry.

        Don’t even get me started on my wifes’ extended family. I can’t tell you how many times I go to functions where I am the only adult male there and am surrounded by beautiful, strong black women who all they want is a man with some damn balls to stand up and be a man.

        I spend a lot of time around my wife’s family’s neighborhood in Philly where quite often I am the only white guy around. And what do I see? Mothers walking alone with their children all over while black “men” hang out on corners or at storefronts shooting dice and drinking. And none of them have ever had a wedding band on.

        I don’t deny the institutional racism is a huge obstacle for black men and that they have to try 10 times harder than I probably every will. I don’t deny my white privilege.

        I’m just saying that these problems are infinitely easier to deal with, with a strong family unit and it’s a lot easier to pay bills and raise a child when there are 2 adults doing it rather than one.

        Black men need to step up.

        • Fitfour

          So you do believe you are the demigod. If what you are doing is so grand why are you bragging/beating down your wife’s family? What of your sisters? Where are they? Don’t tell me because I can not prove your worth neither can you tell me truthfully.

        • Whatever2962

          I’m a black woman with a black husband, father, grandfather, uncles, and a brother.  All are married men who take care of their families.  Your comments have some merit but are tainted by broad generalizations.  Sounds to me like your wife’s sisters also made some bad decisions.  

          • Markryze

            Stop Playin whatever2962 the crowd on the corner
            is deep in every hood.Just because a white dude is
            speaking on it don’t start that ‘generalization’ stuff.
            Be real with yourself now.
            Parents are scared of their kids nowadays.They want
            approval from ‘kids’.
            We can’t be scared to tell these young dudes (sons)
            to pull up the pants.

          • Hotdog090

            Markryze I agree with you to a limited degree. we need those old grandparents to teach us how to teach and raise our next generation. Due to decreased life expectancy for minorities in the US we lack that valuable insight. Again you are merely looking at the outcome you have to look at the entire math equation to come to the correct answer. 

        • http://twitter.com/ajtaylor317 Ali Jamar Taylor

          OR maybe those Black women need to make better choices about the men they choose to get involved with. It takes two to make a baby and just because your sisters-in-law are piss poor judges of character doesn’t mean you get the right to disparage and label Black men (OK, 2 out of 3) as harshly as you have.

          As others have pointed out, there is no single source at fault for the plight facing Black men and Black families. It is a combination of factors including but not limited to: racism in the judicial system, lack of good role models, lack of financial/educational resources and opportunities in urban neighborhoods, a largely White controlled media conglomerate that continues to portray minority stereotypes including minority figures who play into those stereotypes for a paycheck, and a host of other issues as well. 

          As for access to drugs, most Black youth are too poor to afford anything more than weed so if they’re getting harder drugs then they are probably getting it from their White counterparts who have the funds to do more “designer” drugs such as cocaine. 

          If you’ve never grown up with out a father or had him missing at some period of your life, you have NO IDEA the destruction and damage it causes to the soul and identity of young boy. Especially if the father was a drug addict or incarcerated at some point. There’s always this fear of a ticking time-bomb existing somewhere inside of you. 

          Also add in the simmering anger at a society that is mostly disgusted by you, vilifies you and treats you unfairly whether explicitly or tacitly. There may not be systematic methods of denial or outright racism, but it’s the subtle differences that are most infuriating. 

          Yes, Black men have a choice. Everyone has a choice of how they’re going to live their lives and how they’re going to react to the challenges they endure but spouting statistics and demanding better of Black men without acknowledging the challenges and hurdles they must face in the feat of enduring is ignorant at best. 

        • http://twitter.com/ajtaylor317 Ali Jamar Taylor

          OR maybe those Black women need to make better choices about the men they choose to get involved with. It takes two to make a baby and just because your sisters-in-law are piss poor judges of character doesn’t mean you get the right to disparage and label Black men (OK, 2 out of 3) as harshly as you have.

          As others have pointed out, there is no single source at fault for the plight facing Black men and Black families. It is a combination of factors including but not limited to: racism in the judicial system, lack of good role models, lack of financial/educational resources and opportunities in urban neighborhoods, a largely White controlled media conglomerate that continues to portray minority stereotypes including minority figures who play into those stereotypes for a paycheck, and a host of other issues as well. 

          As for access to drugs, most Black youth are too poor to afford anything more than weed so if they’re getting harder drugs then they are probably getting it from their White counterparts who have the funds to do more “designer” drugs such as cocaine. 

          If you’ve never grown up with out a father or had him missing at some period of your life, you have NO IDEA the destruction and damage it causes to the soul and identity of young boy. Especially if the father was a drug addict or incarcerated at some point. There’s always this fear of a ticking time-bomb existing somewhere inside of you. 

          Also add in the simmering anger at a society that is mostly disgusted by you, vilifies you and treats you unfairly whether explicitly or tacitly. There may not be systematic methods of denial or outright racism, but it’s the subtle differences that are most infuriating. 

          Yes, Black men have a choice. Everyone has a choice of how they’re going to live their lives and how they’re going to react to the challenges they endure but spouting statistics and demanding better of Black men without acknowledging the challenges and hurdles they must face in the feat of enduring is ignorant at best. 

        • DWimbelyeffect

          “Black men need to step up?”  White men need to avoid paternalism that we in the black community are rightfully wary of considering the racist nature of our laws, system, and organizations. 

          Don’t tell US step up, rather YOU GO tell our system to avoid racial profiling, our organizations to stop removing black children from their parents and giving them to the state, our politicians to stop using race cards, veiled and unveiled.  Go talk to YOUR OWN people and let us who are raising families in the community, have LOVE for our extended family and neighbors, who are working IN OUR COMMUNITY for PEACE talk to our own brothers. 

          Also, I have to wonder… “67% of black kids are in a single parent home”  How
          EXACTLY does that equate to “…it’s about 2 of every 3 black men who
          aren’t STEPPING UP to the plate?” What plate?  The marriage plate?  The
          parenting plate?

          Your judgement is the same media “story” that
          sells us the idea that since black men and women are not getting
          married, yet still having children, the men are somehow not “stepping up
          to the plate.”  What does that mean to you?  What are you saying?

          This
          is where charges of you being a biased poster are coming out.  While I
          prefer the scenario of husbands and wives raising children, I live in
          the community where many are not married, but are nonetheless raising
          the children together.

          Don’t judge people because they don’t act
          like you, WhiteHusband.  Rather help out your “sister’s-in-law” instead
          of driving a further wedge into the family you joined (your comments
          showed your bias toward the men who most likely will grow and mature to
          better understand their roles in the lives of their families and despite
          your venom, they are STILL the children’s FATHERS).

          To think
          that these men are lost causes, or speak of them with the venom you do,
          shows that you are following the footsteps of the ENEMY of our
          community; All judgement, no help.

          Stop sitting in judgment.  We already have that.  Help or shut the heeel up.

        • http://www.facebook.com/melvin.whitfieldbey Melvin Bub J Whitfield-Bey

          Seriously bruh you don’t realize that this shit is epedemic,it started a very long time ago,when fathers were a liability in the homes of many women who needed assistance,the fact is these same thigns affect whtes and whatever affects blacks is an american problem

        • Ahosea178

          Your post validates Dr. Watkins’ point about the music/media and the artists that are glorified.  Why would women willingly have children by men who repeatedly slack and don’t live up to their responsibilities?  In addition to all of the problems that black Americans have in this country (problems = systematic agenda perpetuated by the white power structure) that have been building up over the past few centuries, we now have the media that continues to perpetuate the racism and injustice by glorifying what keeps many in the black community down.  Why else do some black women keep choosing incompetent men to father their children?  One only has to look at the lyrics and images bombarded in their (black women) heads to understand why black women choose these types of men.  All black men are not slackers.  I am married (for the second time) to a strong black man who recognizes his responsibility to his children and family and happily participates in our life together.

        • Hotdog090

          I agree with your summation and yes there are black men who just give in to the second – class citizenship or succumb to the buffoonery of niggerdom. It happens. However again when you are stripped of all human dignity it creates a mentality that has been left unexplored.

          Let us take for example the psychological merit of The Standford Prison Experiment:
           
          http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=677084988379129606#docid=-8658861983866339316

          You as a white man would be considered the guard here in the prison of the US while ethnic groups such as Blacks and Latinos could be seen as the imprisoned.

          Your mentality is delusional at best because as Dr. King said in A Letter from Birmingham Jail you are not doing anything to alleviate the suffering of your black brothers.

          YET BECAUSE YOU HAVE A FETISH FOR BLACK WOMEN YOU BELIEVE IN ACTUALITY YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING!

          In actuality you are merely another plantation owner who took a black woman to fulfill your own fetish as opposed to a conscious individual seeking out the empowerment of a disenfranchised culture.

    • unbelievaque01

      lots of what you say are true. i have exception with one real comparison. why aren’t white kids acting out as the black kids are…1: i would say that they are, they just aren’t incarcerated at the same rate (johnny in orange county gets caught with weed on school property, he’s sent to detention, Raheem in harlem gets to see the judge) 2: White kids have ready and real examples of things they can become in their neighborhoods..if a white kid can’t shoot a hoop, or run a football, or rap or sing, their alternatives are still (from their frame of experience) limitless…all the well to do people in their neighborhoods and their surrounding neighborhoods look like them. …for the black kids, they see their only way out as celebrity or athletics…this adds to the hopelessness of their realities. if they can’t shoot/run/tackle or rap or sing…the world SEEMS so small for them…selling drugs, robbing become acceptable alternatives for them…IMO this helps to explain the differences between the effects of this horribly negative music on two different types of people. 

      • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

        Agree with the disparate sentencing. Blacks receive MUCH harsher penalties than whites. What we need to look at though, in knowing this, is that the black youth shouldn’t have the drugs in the first place. THAT is where the parenting comes into play.

        In regards to black kids only seeing their way out through athletics or music, again that’s a parents responsibility to show them there are a million other things they can be if they just stay strong, resist peer pressure, and focus on school. That’s the thing though, when any black kid who does good in school is teased as “acting white” there is a serious problem in the black community when being smart is associated with acting white. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy – if you associate being smart with it being a BAD thing, then the only recourse is to “be stupid”.

        You know what kept me in line to do good in school? It wasn’t because I liked it. Like most other kids I hated school. However I knew that if I did bad in school my dad would BEAT MY ASS. I was scared enough by that to do well. That is something missing in these black homes without fathers.

      • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

        Agree with the disparate sentencing. Blacks receive MUCH harsher penalties than whites. What we need to look at though, in knowing this, is that the black youth shouldn’t have the drugs in the first place. THAT is where the parenting comes into play.

        In regards to black kids only seeing their way out through athletics or music, again that’s a parents responsibility to show them there are a million other things they can be if they just stay strong, resist peer pressure, and focus on school. That’s the thing though, when any black kid who does good in school is teased as “acting white” there is a serious problem in the black community when being smart is associated with acting white. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy – if you associate being smart with it being a BAD thing, then the only recourse is to “be stupid”.

        You know what kept me in line to do good in school? It wasn’t because I liked it. Like most other kids I hated school. However I knew that if I did bad in school my dad would BEAT MY ASS. I was scared enough by that to do well. That is something missing in these black homes without fathers.

        • Fitfour

          Is it Okay for caucasian kids to have drugs just because they can get away with it? Where is the justice in this and if you can give it please refrain from telling me how to hanfdle my child. I get enough of this from black women(not all) who think I am too harsh.

          You wrote “That is something missing in these black homes without fathers.”are you saying your black wife could not handle it without you?

          What are you truly saying? You are not the savior of anyone. Please check your mental calibre! It needs adjusting. And don’t patronize me by saying you understand because clearly you do not!

          You keep excusing your bad behavior while loking at the black youths. Could you control your caucasian sons? Would you? Stop trying to be the demigod you are not.

          • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

            Wow you are a clown. Seriously I’m laughing at you for real.

            Are you going to talk about the topic at hand or are you going to cry about white kids and drugs? Everyone here knows white kids do more drugs and get much more lenient penalties. You’re telling us all things we already know.

            But we’re talking about parenting, being a responsible adult, and being the biggest guiding factor in your child’s life. Try to stay on topic, clown.

            By the way, I only have 1 son, with my wife, and he is biracial. Sorry to disappoint you, clown. You’re too angry to hear the truth in my words. Remember in my first post when I talked about looking in the mirror? That’s exactly what you need to do. Stick to the subject. 

          • BlackHusbandBlackWife

            The bulk of Black parents work normal jobs and are responsible, or are at least are working hard to be responsible.  You are sounding a little preachy for an atheist :-)!!  Most of the people responsible enough to read this forum and post to it are trying to be part of the solution.  Wouldn’t you agree?  So what is required here is not that we just debate and preach but that we also understand the nihilism we are facing in SEGMENTS of our culture.  Also that we not get it twisted, these same problems exist in the white culture too!!

          • jenkinsk

            Let me share something with you. I am an African American man married for 20 years to a south west Asian woman, originating from Kashmir/Pakistan. And I am the father of 3 children. I have gained a great deal of knowledge about my wife’s peoples history, language (Urdu/Pari), and regional (Azad Kashmir) culture. I am well respected by her immediate family, extended families, friends, associates, etc. Yet, because I am a gentlemen, posses discernment, and respect I am able to keep my opinions to myself. In other words, I reserve my comments and opinions until such time as they ask me to help them. 

            With all due respect, just because my wife is Kashmiri/Pakistani doesn’t give me the right to speak on issues related to their ethnic. It doesn’t matter if I believe I know better, can do better, or have a viable solution to a problem they are experiencing. What matters is that they have the right to be wrong.

            It would be supremacists/elitists of me to believe they do not posses the motivation, and ability to solve their own internal problems. 

            If you, Sir, desire to bring about positive change, please focus your attention on helping your  immediate family, extended family, friends, associates, etc. solve their own problems. Why? You are best qualified to help them…because you are one of them.

            Best regards

          • Tekguitar

            very well put

          • jenkinsk

            Let me share something with you. I am an African American man married for 20 years to a south west Asian woman, originating from Kashmir/Pakistan. And I am the father of 3 children. I have gained a great deal of knowledge about my wife’s peoples history, language (Urdu/Pari), and regional (Azad Kashmir) culture. I am well respected by her immediate family, extended families, friends, associates, etc. Yet, because I am a gentlemen, posses discernment, and respect I am able to keep my opinions to myself. In other words, I reserve my comments and opinions until such time as they ask me to help them. 

            With all due respect, just because my wife is Kashmiri/Pakistani doesn’t give me the right to speak on issues related to their ethnic. It doesn’t matter if I believe I know better, can do better, or have a viable solution to a problem they are experiencing. What matters is that they have the right to be wrong.

            It would be supremacists/elitists of me to believe they do not posses the motivation, and ability to solve their own internal problems. 

            If you, Sir, desire to bring about positive change, please focus your attention on helping your  immediate family, extended family, friends, associates, etc. solve their own problems. Why? You are best qualified to help them…because you are one of them.

            Best regards

          • Rrchicagojazz

            YOU MADE THE TOPIC YOU.CAUSE YOU DON’T KNOW YOUR EVIL WHITE HISTORY.

          • Lauren

            He’s not saying that white kids don’t do drugs, what I take him to mean, and I have seen this argument many times online yet it still seems to be misconstrued and misunderstood many times is that yes their is racism rampant in the system, no it is not fair.  But the longer sentences for black men should discourage them even more for doing/selling drugs!

            The point isn’t that the longer sentences are unfair, its that they shouldn’t have the drugs in the first place!  So while the system is horrible, the blame still lies with the parents or lack thereof.

          • Rrchicagojazz

            YOU NEED TO READ THE BOOK THE NEW JIM CROW.

          • Tekguitar

            it’s real easy to say what somebody else meant, misconstrued, misunderstood,…here are a few points that seem to get swept under the rug
            1.black people were not brought here to have families..they were brought here to slave
            2. if you were “lucky enough” to be allowed to marry, the white slave owner could take & have your wife to do whatever they chose to do with her
            3.if you had kids, they could be sold right out from under you
            4.there is still a massive amount of people who think that slavery was right & that black people are less than human & should stay down or be returned to africa
            5.THE PAST IS THE REASON FOR THE PRESENT
                i expect SOME white people to talk that “black families sticking together” crap because they only repeat what they hear in the news..but when black people talk that B.S. it shows that they have no education of their own people
            what i have learned over the years is that no matter how hard you work, how much you struggle, it can always be snatched out from under you by some powerful white person

        • Okpara

          Still white man , you still have not added the fact that black fathers are not in the home because they have been mentally and spiritual destroyed by white men through slavery and continues to be destroyed through racism, economics, classism and more. Matter of fact why are you even on this this, you are a fool in the mist of reality. Once you’ve taken a look at yourself and the history of your people from all that you’ve destroyed then you might have something intelligent to say. Read “Icemans Inheritance” by Michael Bradley.
          He is a white male who was brave enough to tell the truth about people who call themselves white. You suffer from psychological damage but refuse to admit you have problems as you expect blacks to admit to. Look In The Mirror First!

        • Okpara

          Still white man , you still have not added the fact that black fathers are not in the home because they have been mentally and spiritual destroyed by white men through slavery and continues to be destroyed through racism, economics, classism and more. Matter of fact why are you even on this this, you are a fool in the mist of reality. Once you’ve taken a look at yourself and the history of your people from all that you’ve destroyed then you might have something intelligent to say. Read “Icemans Inheritance” by Michael Bradley.
          He is a white male who was brave enough to tell the truth about people who call themselves white. You suffer from psychological damage but refuse to admit you have problems as you expect blacks to admit to. Look In The Mirror First!

    • unbelievaque01

      lots of what you say are true. i have exception with one real comparison. why aren’t white kids acting out as the black kids are…1: i would say that they are, they just aren’t incarcerated at the same rate (johnny in orange county gets caught with weed on school property, he’s sent to detention, Raheem in harlem gets to see the judge) 2: White kids have ready and real examples of things they can become in their neighborhoods..if a white kid can’t shoot a hoop, or run a football, or rap or sing, their alternatives are still (from their frame of experience) limitless…all the well to do people in their neighborhoods and their surrounding neighborhoods look like them. …for the black kids, they see their only way out as celebrity or athletics…this adds to the hopelessness of their realities. if they can’t shoot/run/tackle or rap or sing…the world SEEMS so small for them…selling drugs, robbing become acceptable alternatives for them…IMO this helps to explain the differences between the effects of this horribly negative music on two different types of people. 

    • Fitfour

      Why did you not marry a caucasion woman? They would not have you as a father because you are dysfunctiional in its truest terms. You marry black to make you look good. What do you say to sista who marry you when you get pissed off at life? Do you remind her that she has it good for marrying you? Where are your caucasian children? Who is your mama and daddy?

      As for statistics, like all other stats it can easily be manipulated and skewed. Peculiar how stats don’t mention fathers who are there and taking care of business or as you say, “step up to the plate”. I have met many guys as you who make it your duty to attempt to regulate the life of a black woman and child. You are not the rule but rather you are the exception. First you with hold job promotion and then you give it to our sistas who believe you think the world of them not realizing this is your attempt at demoralizing the black male/man. You are probably angry because your caucasian girl only looked starry eyed at a brotha. 
       How many black and brown men do you personally know? Not just to work but truly know and understand what truly happened? My mind tells me you do not care to know nor do you care as long as you can spew out stats that you have no clue how it was gathered. Contrary to your warped beliefs, you are not the savior of the world, you can not save yourself but you are a piece on the chess board being manipulated by someone else. However, as intelligent as you think you are you already know this. To soothe your uncalibrated mind you would want to impose your immature thinking(because it is not of truth) on others you think are too stupid to search out these perverted stats.

       What about the caucasians who are not married but shacking? Is this because the original dad/father ran off allowing another to take his place at the helm because he was abused as a child in a household that wanted to appear complete?

         Its good that you have a black wife but so do I and we are well together therefore what you speak is nothing. By the way there many other brothas with a black wife who take care of business without your influence.

      Question, do you work or do you pimp her like many of you pimp your caucasian wife having her work while you stay at home and fish or hunt? Or do you keep her home and enslave her to your misguided will. You probably have her work for her own money because your caucasian x-wife is milking you dry! Get real and talk to me/us if you want to know the truth.

      As for single mothers with children, how many have you or your brothers fathered and hide this fact? 

       We are not afraid of you!

      P.S. There are fathers out there not at home or pulling their weight but not as many as you would like to believe or stat because all I am seeing is dads doing their thing taking care of business. To you, this is an anomaly, to us this is the rule not the exception! 

       

      • WhiteHusbandBlackWife

        I didn’t marry a caucasian woman because I fell in love with my wife and wanted to marry her. Simple answer.

        You have a serious mental problem if you think it’s okay to get pissed off at life and then say to a woman “You have it good for marrying me.” The truth of the matter is that I am the lucky one because my wife is a wonderful woman.

        By the way, my stats weren’t made up. Look at them for yourself:

        http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=107

        My wife and I both work.

        Anymore questions or are you just going to stay ignorant? By the way, how’s the weather inside your own ass?

        You’re a fool and you’re exactly part of the problem. If you put as much energy into being a faithful husband and father as you do in attacking me, you might be getting somewhere.

        • DWimbelyeffect

          About your stats…I have to wonder… “67% of black kids are in a single parent home”  How
          EXACTLY does that equate to “…it’s about 2 of every 3 black men who
          aren’t stepping up to the plate?” What plate?  The marriage plate?  The
          parenting plate?

          Your judgement is the same media “story” that
          sells us the idea that since black men and women are not getting
          married, yet still having children, the men are somehow not “stepping up
          to the plate.”  What does that mean to you?  What are you saying?

          This
          is where charges of you being a biased poster are coming out.  While I
          prefer the scenario of husbands and wives raising children, I live in
          the community where many are not married, but are nonetheless raising
          the children together.

          Don’t judge people because they don’t act
          like you, WhiteHusband.  Rather help out your “sister’s-in-law” instead
          of driving a further wedge into the family you joined (your comments
          showed your bias toward the men who most likely will grow and mature to
          better understand their roles in the lives of their families and despite
          your venom, they are STILL the children’s FATHERS).

          To think
          that these men are lost causes, or speak of them with the venom you do,
          shows that you are following the footsteps of the ENEMY of our
          community; All judgement, no help.

          Stop it.

        • Rrchicagojazz

          WHO PISSED OFF ?I KNOW THE TRUTH.I SEE YOU REFUSE TO READ THE BOOK [THE NEW JIM CROW].YOU ALSO NEED TO GO ON YOUTUBE AND LOOK @ AMERICAN DRUG WAR.I KNOW WHO I SHOULD HATE FOREVER.

    • justsaying

      There are a couple things you might consider….

      1.  Just because suburban white kids spend more money on hip hop doesnt mean they listen to it more.  Most black kids cant even afford the music they listen too, but via BET, the local radio stations, and they’re parents they hear this destructive music.

      2.  The black family was destroyed long ago by slavery and it has been difficult for most to overcome the psychological effects of chattel slavery and the pre-determined destruction of the african family.  The dysnfunction we see today didnt just happen.  Black men didnt just wake up and decide not to be fathers.  This cycle goes directly back to slavery.  

      3.  Even if rap artist are not solely to blame, they have some culpability and responsibility.  It is called selling out when you do disregard you moral responsibility to you humanity just for financial gain.

      4.  I agree that black men need to step up to the plate and raise their children.  They must also change their thinking.  What gets rewarded gets repeated!  Lil Wanye was given awards and publicity and makes money with reckless words and reckless behavior.  Thus, our children want to repeat this.  African Americans must stand together and not support anyone that is anti-family and anti-community..  BUT, THE PEOPLE WHO REAPED THE BENEFITS OF THEIR ANCESTORS WHO ENRICHED THEMSELVES WITH FREE SLAVE LABOR NEED TO MAN UP AS WELL!  AFRICANS WERE KIDNAPPED AND SOLD TO WORK IN THIS COUNTRY TO CREATE WEALTH FOR WHITE PEOPLE, AND THROUGH THIS EXPLOITATION THE AFRICAN FAMILY WAS DESTROYED.  THIS IS THE ROOT AND REAL SOURCE OF AFRICAN AMERICAN PROBLEMS TODAY. 

      5.  Although I am of african descent, my grandmother was white.  She was instrumental in teaching me about how slavery had destroyed the african family.  She was a civil rights leader and stood up to do her part to make the wrongs right.  She left her family farm and inheritance which her ancestors had accumulated through the slave labor and the exploitation of africans.  So just because you married a women of color doesnt mean you speak truth about race and hatred in America. 

      6.  An employee from Interscope Records, home to 50 cents and Eminem, admitted that Interscope and Viacom have a unique relationship and they deliberately focus on marketing campaigns that depict black people in the worst possible light.  This is the focus of this article.  Look it up.   

      Question….do you work in the entertainment industry?  I believe that most of the post defending this foolishness is the industry are trying to keep sales up.

      • perfect gentleman

        appreciate your reply!

    • FUBU

      I despise your comments!!!  You, somehow, land a sistah and feel you are privileged to dump on African men, and since you are with a sistah, you now know wussup with Africans?  Hilarious!  First and foremost, I don’t think this conversation was for you (Your Black World);  this conversation wasn’t about you (Your Black World), so why are you here? Do you really think your comments are going to unite African people?  Of course not; instead, you will get a continuous amount of backlash because you are still our #1 enemy!  Despite the fact that Africans kill each other at an alarming rate, you are still the enemy!  Everything negative we do is because of you and since you want to bring up statistics, here are some stats for you: a good percentage of us still don’t trust you, don’t like you, and think you are always F.O.S, and I’ve seen your kind before, you surf the web looking for African sites to post ridiculous statistics and talk about what Africans should do, but your kind never do your part.  How about you talk to your people and ask that they even the playing field?  You didn’t mention that at all.  You didn’t come on here and say “look African people, I know that, us, whites have been doing you wrong for hundreds of years, but understand that I have your back and this is what I’ve done for you”, no you come on here and try and slam my people. And although that would have been nice to read, I still don’t want anything from you! So, again what was your purpose?  No white man has ever united African people, so you really shouldn’t think you’ll be the first.  
      In short, you are the typical white man, for you continuously kick Africans while they are down, yet with that being said, It’s nothing you can do for me and my people, but moreover, your negative comments aren’t welcomed and are truly unwanted.  I’m educated and my son will be educated, if every African does the same, then one day we will even the playing field, without your help! No thanks for your comment.  Fubu!

      • Lauren

        Maybe if you read his comments with a discerning eye you would see what he’s *actually* trying to say.  I’m not defending him, but I think some of his comments make a lot of sense and I feel that if his screen name was simply “Black Husband” he wouldn’t be catching all of this flack.

        The problem with a lot of black people (yes I am generalizing and yes I am black)  is that they have this “I can do bad all by myself” attitude.  They take any sort of helpful information as criticism!  

        “Of course not; instead, you will get a continuous amount of backlash because you are still our #1 enemy!  Despite the fact that Africans kill each other at an alarming rate, you are still the enemy! ”

        No the #1 enemy is no longer white people, the enemy is gansta rap thugs in the media like Lil Wane who are the enemy.  After all, the best way to take down a group is from the inside out.  So open your eyes, don’t direct your hate towards people who try to help blacks (other blacks included) by pointing out our flaws as a people, but direct it towards the people who do nothing but bring us down.

        • http://www.facebook.com/melvin.whitfieldbey Melvin Bub J Whitfield-Bey

          He would have caught it from me if he was black,because he like many of us blame the tree for burning when we din’t start the fire!!,I love that song by the way

        • Ahosea178

          Well, the one of our enemies as black people may be rap thugs, but the #1 enemy is definitely the white power structure!  That seems to be what many are overlooking.  Sure, we need strong parents united in raising their children to be successful and live full lives in today’s society, but we cannot ignore the legacy that slavery has had upon black people.  Sure this happened “a long time ago,” but unfortunately, not long enough.  Racism was still rampant and blatant as recently as the 1960’s.  It has not went away; how and when was this problem overcome?  The answer is never, and the fact is that racism has become even more insidious.  This means that those who control the record labels, those who own the corporations, and those that make the laws still happen to be racist, and these are folks who help make up the white power structure.  These people are the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those who helped create slavery and its legacy in the first place.  Now, if we compound slavery along with drug infiltration in our communities, and prison, with a lack of ownership of any real wealth (as a result of how most blacks came to exist in this country), we can begin to see how our (black Americans) dilemma began to take shape. 
          Once things are looked at from this level, it becomes clear that there is and has been an agenda to keep black Americans down-trodden, in one way or another.

      • Dezzy

        WhiteHusbandBlackWife has made some pretty valid points that MANY of us in the black community should already be aware of.  Those who tend to get mad at his comments are more then likely NOT taking care of their responsibilities at hand.  We all have to do our parts as parents to raise our children to be OUTSTANDING citizens amongst a sometimes bias world.  Kids did not ask to be here.  You made them, so give them the chance to excel at WHATEVER their hearts desire.  Please, don’t just be a father (any man can make a baby), but be a forthright daddy who is involved with EVERY aspect of their childs life.  That goes for the mothers as well.  The kids need ALL OF US to continue to step up to the plate and knock it out of the park in our parenting skills.  Respectfully written

    • rasil

      I agree but whose father is Lil Wayne?  Just having a father present is not the answer. 

    • IsItAlltheBlackMansFault

      I agree with you 100%, but that is only 50% of the problem.  Women should choose more wisely who they lie down with to produce these children that “appear” to be unwanted by the father.  Lil’ Wayne wanna-bes are not going to turn into Cliff Huxtable because he got a female pregnant.  Is that so hard for females to figure out.  It is all around us and it happens again and again and again.  Often to the same female with numerous men.   Your Black wife may have choosen responsibly, but unfortunately the same cannot be said of too many others.  Please, please, please address the entire problem.  Black men have been blamed, solely, for far too long.  Coming from a Black man who has three children with the same woman who just so happens to be my wife.

    • Black_Man_Not_Buying_it

      Bullsh*t

    • YoungGifted&Black

      This is the problem, epidemic rather, in our black community. We can’t forget or put aside our individual differences, opinions, personal triumphs or tragedies, to achieve a common goal anymore. I just spent 45 minutes of my life that I can’t get back reading garbage. It’s not about if WhiteManBlackWife or whatever is a racist or if you successfully raised your kids on your own, the POINT is, we have an oppressor that needs to be taken out.

      During the Civil Rights Movement it was Jim Crow and inequality, now sadly, its “our” own entertainment. I blame alot of “our” media on how screwed up we are. Lets face it, we’re influenced by media. Good or bad. Whether you bought a silver glove during the MJ era or you wanted to attend a college like Hilman. The issue is what we’re allowing and supporting in the media. When we give shows like “The Game, Real Housewives of Atlanta…” And others high ratings or purchase music degrading to women and families is the problem. Keep your eyes on the prize people and quit turning on one another and tackle the monster.

      No amount of parenting can disregard the influence of pop culture, we just have to be more vigilant in banning and speaking out against these things. In arguing or discussing this issue (where most of you alls points are only emotionally and personally validated) why aren’t you writing letters to your local radio station with a petition against certain songs, artists? Women raising men alone, why aren’t you pushing autobiographies of Malcolm X, Ben Carson, ect in your sons hands (all by the way were raised by single moms and became very successful) …you can’t change your circumstances, but you can change your outcome.

      • CultureKeeper

        You are absolutely right.  I have also tired of this useless rank against this single White man.  He alone is not the probllem and should thus be dismissed or left alone to his own ruminations.  His viewpoint does not affect us.  What is at stake is our youth.  Our energy needs to be on confronting this monster that is destroying our future — not on what happened in the past that puts some of us in the situation we find ourselves in.  The crux of the matter is to do something practical and expedient about it.  This industry must be challenged even if it cannot be brought down.  It surely can be affected if the best strategy is pursued.

    • Crisismemo

      To sit back and say “Its time for the black men to step up” is only addressing half of the problem.  How can we ignore the fact that the black women are choosing to lie down with these thugs/gangstas in the first place.  If the boy has no decent paying job, no education, no trade, pants sagging, bad attitude, doing drugs and selling drugs – why are girls laying down with these guys and expect for these bums to “step up”.  With all of these out of wedlock births – its obvious that these girls are not requiring that these bums wear protection (just look up the disturbing herpes statistics for black women -and yes I know that a condom won’t always protect).  I’m not giving black men a pass, I’m just stating that BOTH Black women and black men need to “step up”. We don’t need excuses we need action because this is epidemic – and yes music is ABSOLUTELY influential. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/melvin.whitfieldbey Melvin Bub J Whitfield-Bey

        Why can’t we see that any black problem is an american problem,its not just blacks its just that withh our small numbers we are disproportionaly effected by problems tha affect the country as a whole,These black girls that you speak of who except these “thugs” are not  at all doing something that wasn’t done long before them.We have to fix the problem at the roots.The sad thing is how can we expect children to make adult decisions!!!

         

    • Guest

      Because it has to do with generational curses and the need to fit in. Most white people have never felt deprived of anything, which in turn does not drive them to madness of heart and blindness of spirit.(Deuteronomy 28:28-29, 63-68)  They can connect with themselves and family in general.  But in a nation where African American Slaves were taught not to respect elders, the ‘Buck’ slave would get ALL the women, so on and so forth – it is very easy to see how an African American child can ‘grow’ wild.  Look at what Willie Lynch taught to other slave masters; look at how our children have no form of identity; therefore, they accept the concepts of WHOEVER has made it big, hoping to mimic that person’s plight in society.

      History repeats itself, when a nation does not learn from its shortcoming. Only now, the killing is coming from self and others… we facilitate our own shortcomings…

      • SapphiresMomma

        @Guest,@c32c37c3af233587ccc634d40d49a5c3:disqus 

        I know you may not even return to the site/article, but please STOP pushing the WILLIE LYNCH LIE!

        ” Look at what Willie Lynch taught to other slave masters; ”

        This is one BIG problem some of us have and that is believing everything that comes down the pipe-line that we can use to jusitfy negative behavior!

        When I hear young adults talk about this so caleed “WILLIE LYNCH” it makes me cringe!!

        Some folks just carry rumors/lies to others without ever checking out the fact for themselves. PLEASE stop this foolishness!

    • Dwayne Collilns aka Olafemi

      This is a very good point but Black failure goes beyond fatherless parenting. A man is supposed to be a provider. How can a man provide if he has nothing to provide with, he has no job, he has no proper education, he has no one to lend a helping hand? Our root has been up-rooted. But a white husband Black wife wouldn’t know this. His eyes only sees the suffering of the Black woman.

    • Hotdog090

      You are a white man living in a society that has (from it’s core inception has been created in order to accommodate better yet advance white males (remember the concept of divine right ect). Therefore through the act of slavery our society was and remains built on the perverse and distorted premisce that whites are superior and that blacks are less than human (I do not give a flying fish if you are married to a black woman, she agrees with your foolishness as well making her a distorted, misguided, and, separated enity from the black experience yes I said that!). Additionally this instituted racism has also created a caste society which places blacks, latinos, and, people who are of darker skin complexion at the back of the class. What then results? The lack of resources, lack of social standing which makes black men incapable of fighting for oneself. You as a white man can ALWAYS find employment, yet, even educated black males are less desireable then an uneducated white male! With a lack of resources, lack of constitutional, social, or, judicial advocation, we remain relatively powerless. So, until you live in a hostile country, that your people built from the ground up, I highly suggest that you become vested in educating yourself before speaking foolishly, because a black man like me will eat you alive sir.

    • Hotdog090

      You are a white man living in a society that has (from it’s core inception has been created in order to accommodate better yet advance white males (remember the concept of divine right ect). Therefore through the act of slavery our society was and remains built on the perverse and distorted premisce that whites are superior and that blacks are less than human (I do not give a flying fish if you are married to a black woman, she agrees with your foolishness as well making her a distorted, misguided, and, separated enity from the black experience yes I said that!). Additionally this instituted racism has also created a caste society which places blacks, latinos, and, people who are of darker skin complexion at the back of the class. What then results? The lack of resources, lack of social standing which makes black men incapable of fighting for oneself. You as a white man can ALWAYS find employment, yet, even educated black males are less desireable then an uneducated white male! With a lack of resources, lack of constitutional, social, or, judicial advocation, we remain relatively powerless. So, until you live in a hostile country, that your people built from the ground up, I highly suggest that you become vested in educating yourself before speaking foolishly, because a black man like me will eat you alive sir.

    • http://www.facebook.com/melvin.whitfieldbey Melvin Bub J Whitfield-Bey

      Bruh its deeper than you think though i do disagree with the overall premise of the Dr,.,I have to say that telling black men to step up is not the answer.The fact is people die, fahters die, it happens all across the board it happens in white familiies as well. We as americans need to realize that this is an American problem, its not just a black problem, blacks need to realize this as well. The overall structure of the black familiy s not in tact not just fathers,many of these men grew up as boys where they didn’t have a father and they don see the need for one…the real source of the problem s much deeper than just looking into the mirror the problem here in america is we only see what is before our eyes we ignore the causes,or the reasons that such problems are occuring now.

    • jenkinsk

      It is easy to single out black men as the root of the problem in the black community. 

      The Vietnam War, and Crack Epidemic of the 80’s and early 90’s ravaged black communities across America. 

      The Crack Epidemic coincided with the loss of blue collar industries and jobs typically filled by blacks and brown folk.

      My parents, the same of other white collar black folk, escaped the inner cities and relocated to suburban areas. We were fortunate to escape the carnage of drug wars fought by gangs, yet we were forced to live among white folk who were no happy we lived next door.

      Once thriving inner-cities became ware zones controlled externally by corrupt police, and internally by crabs-in-a-barrel black/brown folk who were unprepared for life in a fast developing high-technical nation.

      Men who are unemployed cannot provide food, clothing, and shelter for themselves, or their loved ones. Some men turned to crime, some joined the military, some maintained employment, some went to college, while others gave up and laid up on mammas couch. 

      Regardless of whether or not a male is lying on mammas couch and doing absolutely nothing with his life does not equate to him being sexually impotent. Yes, he still needs and wants sex. And the only females available to him for sex are the ones on, or at his level of knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. 

      At the end of the day, the female choose the male she develops a sexual relationship. No one is clubbing females over the head with a club and dragging their butts of to a cave. The female chooses from among the available males in her environment. All a man can do is stick his chest out, and present himself (game) as a viable partner. If he is a liar and a cheat…buyer (female) beware.

      Black men, as opposed to black males, have a rough time in the USA. Because we don’t fit the low standard and expectation placed on us by society, and even within some segments of African American culture we are oft times viewed as elitists, arrogant, less authentically black (Uncle Tom’s), controlling, chauvinists, etc. But, we don’t complain… We marry wives, produce stable and well adjusted children, live well. WE KEEP IT MOVING… 

      We don’t waste time or lie to ourselves blaming so-called Thug Life or Hip Hop Culture and Music for the current state of the black community in America. We know exactly who is to blame for the madness. Yet, we know we are 100% response+able for solving our own problems. And the first set of problems we need to fix are found in our own backyards.

      The bottom line… Luke 9:60 

       

    • perfect gentleman

      i’ll answer that: it’s because white children have a far larger pool of role models who look like them to choose from.  simply put.  they’re not saying to themselves [even subconsciously] “i can do THAT when i grow up!” when they see lil wayne awarded for his lyrics.  white children, being of the dominant racial group in western society, aren’t necessarily looking for a “white role model” because there’s no need to search.  black [latino, asian, gay, pick a minority] youth are in a distinctly different place sociologically, being part of the Other, so when one of their own, or some advocate of theirs makes it to the top, it’s a lot more noteworthy than another white pop star.

      also, if you’re going to say what black men are doing wrong in their relationships, i sure hope you’re willing to explore what the cause of that symptom might be.  perhaps a backwards aesthetic, perhaps perpetuated by [among things] commercialized hip-hop.  you can’t simply place blame on black men for the entire race’s woes when the very point of this article was to theorize on the cause of that.

      you’re inadvertently turning this into a chicken v. egg issue, and those have no solutions.

    • LenierTheRemedy

      I agree with you on that.  But at the same time we shouldn’t give the message of destruction any type of opening for empowerment.  We as PEOPLE, whether Black, White, Hispanic, whatever should own up to the wrong we have let happen.  Nobody stands up for what is right anymore.  Everybody just wants to turn their heads until the situation is right up in their face.  Hello???  Wake the hell up people.  When the killing is done with one set of people, only the ones behind the gun will be the judge of who is next.  If you want to stop the violence, and all the negative influences upon the world, there must come change.  So *WhiteHusbandBlackWife* you are sort of right about who to blame, but you’re also forgetting someone else… YOURSELF!!!  We need to all rise up in UNITY to fight for PEACE, LOVE, and HONESTY instead of filling the networks with negativity and propaganda.  Therefore I am placing my vote as a Humanitarian-like citizen to actual give something back to the people that really matters.

      UHURU to the World!!!
      ~Lenier the Remedy~

    • Mike

      Hey everybody he’s here to rescue us! Its the self righteous douche bag, that would like to blame the entirety of the black youth’s problems on one statistic and coincidentally that statistic involves the “black man” Hmmm.. that white guy blaming the black man thing sure does sound familiar, doesn’t it? Well I don’t have two parents, yet somehow I am able to differentiate what I should and shouldn’t do when I listen to rap music. How is this? Maybe because I don’t live in abject poverty or attend a miserable school within an even more miserable neighborhood. And have you ever thought that these “absentee fathers” might not be the best thing for their children to see everyday and develop their own habits around? So next time you go on some tirade(that I would bet you hear out of your hunky loving wife’s mouth every time the issue comes up) think about maybe some of the real root problems before you start scapegoating. and on that point your finger in the mirror thing point it at your damn self because its pretentious scumbags like your self who devolve such a complex subject to simple scapegoating.

      • SapphiresMomma

        @MI@930c51b04029646edfae4b84fbd1946f:disqus 

        Please stop giving validity to the fact that some of us are so limited, and ignorant!

        You sound so foolish.

        Please take a long, hard look at yourself.

        It is fools like you that we no longer need.

        • mike

          How am I giving validity to the fact that some of us are so limited, and ignorant?

    • deb

      I clearly recall the white suburbanite rage over such things as Elvis, The Beatles, The Doors, Ozzie Osbourne, and so on.  All of which were great but did introduce some things to our children that parents did not want them taught or exposed to.  Good grief Elivs was forbidden from performing from numerous venues because families feared their children would be horribly influenced.  And that was during a culture when there were no civil rights and white families were predominantly two parented.  My point on that note is that white parents realized that not even two parent families could stop the influence the music could have on their children.  That being said, the author makes a very valid point.  We need to stop rewarding those who have the morals of an alley cat and who, by their own actions, tell our children its okay to be that way.   For goodness sakes, Paris Hilton, who has done nothing to contribute effectively to society, got her fame for making a sex tape.  However I digress.

      Perhaps the fact that BET is owned predominantly by whites could be a major reason why they couldn’t care less about what they put out to the black community.  I realize that its what the “kids want to hear’ however, the “kids” will want to hear whatever the media makes popular with very few exceptions.  Perhaps the majority of artists could get together to change up the drug fused, violent and sex laden music and video’s to something with a little more positive influence.  Being that BET is about the ONLY black entertainment network unlike the numerous white counterpart networks, BET has a greater responsiblity than other networks for ensuring that what they show is positive to its target audience while still keeping in line with what is popular.  I understand why BET is the target in this however, I think that there needs to be more steps taken to help communicate to our kids that what these types of rap songs display are way off base and not the way to a happy or healthy life.  We need to build those steps to begin to end the violence and destruction permeating the black culture and communities. 

    • Deedee

      oh please! you’ve had your holocaust years ago!… and hitler didnt need music to convince him or his army.im not condoning this at all,by the way.however,you dont have much room to even think about being self righteous.eminem raps about killing his ex wife/baby mother….umm how many white wives come up missing every month?(crickets) …not to say his raps encourage the criminals to do it..but it does encourage and ok the behavior.so ummm try again.

    • Hotdog090

      Although you’re insight appears to be insightful it is a screaming testament to your ignorance. Now understand that I do not mean the term ignorance as a term of insult but rather a lack of understanding of the complex issues facing black America.

      First and foremost you must comprehend this concept – America is not merely an oligarchy but an oligarchy incorporated into an iron – clad caste system. So what does that mean exactly? It means that the wealthy lord over people promoting their will even to the dismay of all others. Secondly the concept of a caste system which is a social structure that is not based on the individual merits of it’s citizens but on the preconceived roles that those individuals are delegated to play. You claim to be a white man with a black wife and I am sure that your wife has applauded your vast accomplishments in comparison to her black male counterparts (lack of education, lack of reliable income, ect). You more then likely stepped in and became her shinning white knight to save she and her children from the degradation of ghettos – maybe I am stretching it a bit, I admit.

      However, given the facts that I presented (and please by all means research them in such books as Working Towards Whiteness, The Antebellum Slave Auctions, amongst other noteworthy writings that I would be more then happy to share with you) if social roles were reversed and all privileges that you enjoy not merely as a white man but as an American, no wait let’s go beyond that and say as a human being where stripped away since birth….  I wonder what type of man you would turn out to be?   

      The point that I am trying to make is simple, when one is stripped of their human rights to be human with no social, political, economic, legal, or, dare I even say religious means of justification it produces a dis-functioning person. Why is it that an uneducated white male is more employable then an educated black young adult? It’s social relevant issues such as these which leads to the relatively minuscule issue of blacks not being suitable father figures. Let us look at the social, political, and, environmental issues leading to our conditions, not merely the conditions themselves. It is comparable as getting angry at the fruit of a tree for being bitter rather then looking at the soil conditions, the strength of the roots, the amount of light and water the tree receives leading to the undesirable fruit. Dare I say that America’s light is darkness, the soil is corrupt, the roots of the American tree are rotten, and, conditions are cold, therefore, do not speak to me about the flavorless fruit until the environment is upgraded for the American Blacks. We who originated the means necessary for our global structure to function sir.  

    • http://www.mbs-securityproducts.com Michaelsibley

      I co-sign on much of what you said,but you are missing the most important reason for the break down in the black community…BLACK WOMEN!!! Yes,one thousand times,yes black men need to step up and handle their share of responsibility,but who has the ultimate say in when a black woman gets pregnant and who she gets pregnant by? BLACK WOMEN!!! You see,it has always been popular and I suppose it always will be popular to blame the black man for everything,but it takes two to tangle.

      I heard it said somewhere that the strenght of a people lies in the moral foundation of the woman. When you look at it from that perspective it’s no wonder why we are in the shape we are in. Women of other races,at least to a much higher degree,get married FIRST,then have babies. Black women have babies by multiple fathers,then want to get married. They selection these bums to breed with and then are genuinely surprised that they are not responsible fathers.

      Black boys are the only group of people in the world who are expected to raise themselves. If the majority of black families are headed by women,who is to blame for how these boys turn out in life? What I’m saying is yes,black men share the blame for the current mess we are in,but black are constantly let off the hook!

    • Tekguitar

      and who ARE you?? when did YOU decide that you could tell black men what to do.? there’s no black man in your household. you know nothing about black men other than what you read. whoever you are, ( either a white man or a black woman) you’re not qualified to give advice to black men….i can make a confident prediction: the crap you’re talking is null & void, because  just like you & your wife ,the races are mixing so there won’t be ANY black fathers  around..period..on a good note though, there won’t be any more self righteous white men taking that B.S. about black men.

    • Anonymous

      Most of the rap songs are not fictitious. That is just a myth that all rappers speak about untrue stories.More like they don’t have a reason to imitate it. Why would white people have to sell drugs, be a thug, and struggle? Not in America.
      What is the percentage of European American children in a single-family or divorced home? What is the European women divorce percentage? So basically your saying that blk women don’t know how to raise their child? If so, I would disagree with that. You sound really ignorant and ready to continue stereotypes.Most blk men don’t refuse to marry a blk woman, some of them are refusing to commit, not get married and settle d@wn. Anyone can be in a relationship and not be committed also. Blk men and women in my family are married and it is people like you who share the wrong kind of information and make up those kind of fantasies. They don’t need a male figure to tell them that because anyone can tell them that. In my opinion that is why books are more important then the television.
      Some Blk men not being in relationships with blk women are not the problems in the blk communities, it’s the traps, and the struggles that blk people have to deal with. Not rap music, not a relationship etc.
      This sounds more like the female talking than the white guy.

      • Anonymous

        Wow!

        I am sorry, but are you an adult?

        If so please re-read what you wrote and tell us what you think  about your comment!

        Unbelievable!

        • Anonymous

          Yes I am. Why? Why don’t you tell me what you had a problem with. Or do you need me to re-read it to you? 
          Are you an adult? If so, let’s not play little games. Speak. If you want to make a point, do it or sit back and be quiet.
          I don’t read minds so make your issue known like a grown person. Should I even take someone serious named Buckwheat. What are you a cereal b@x typing that dumb sh!!?

          Now re-read and re-write your comment. Make sure you be grown and state your problem.

          Common Sense!

  • Rhett Bogan

    Be entertained “If you must” but “Be aware” .And I happen to agree with you Soja about that R Kelly comment…..It was way out of place….

  • God’s_Angel

    I couldn’t have said it better myself. Destructive rap is the new crack epidemic, helping to destroy our communities. Except this new destruction can reach our children, destroying their sense of reality & what manhood is far too early in their young lives.

  • God’s_Angel

    I couldn’t have said it better myself. Destructive rap is the new crack epidemic, helping to destroy our communities. Except this new destruction can reach our children, destroying their sense of reality & what manhood is far too early in their young lives.

  • God’s_Angel

    I couldn’t have said it better myself. Destructive rap is the new crack epidemic, helping to destroy our communities. Except this new destruction can reach our children, destroying their sense of reality & what manhood is far too early in their young lives.

  • Anonymous

    You’re right. I have a neighbor  of my color (Black) who plays such music. But he has children. As to loudness, I have asked him several times to lower the boom boom. That part he has managed to stop. But then one day he invited me to listen to the lyrics and found exactly what you’re describing. I walked out telling him I could not listen such words in my ears. Believe it or not he was disappointed I did not like the words in the music. Now guess who listens to his music every day? His kids. Chances these kids will grow wild and fail in school is great.  I hope God will put sense in my neighbor to change.

  • Nyladyj

    I totally agree with you in this matter!!! A thumbs up for expressing this point of view.

  • OMGoodness

    I so agree with Dr. Boyce. I used to like watching the BET Awards.  IT was a MESS!!  It seems as though these young Black Men don’t care about anything but getting paid. They don’t understand what they say or what they do and all the while looking a mess too! The only decent person that give all the credit to God that I saw was Steve Harvey.

  • http://ifelicious.pip.verisignlabs.com/ ifelicious

    what about songs that Lil Wayne wrote about the situation in New Orleans like “Tie My Hands”? i think the argument you make here is more complicated than you’ve presented. we subscribe to these popular artists as much as they are put before on us.

    • YeahIsaidIt

      I often find that the few songs that these artists make that reflect their more sensible side are too few and far between.  He made a song for the losses in Hurrican katrina, but he has done more damage to New Orleans than any storm could have, so its a toss up.

  • Msjoe43

    Proverbs 2:26~~~Train up a child the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it……We can all take a part in this as a (Black, Proud & former single Parent) if such matters) I must say that I did my utmost to raise my Daughter and sons to the best of my ability by monitoring what they read, watched and did, but even I don’t have the excuse of blaming it elsewhere because ultimately the responsibility was mine and mine alone, including the fact of choosing not to stay with, chase after or put up with their absent Fathers….While I agree with most of the COMMENTS, In my conclusion, it still takes a Village to raise the Children and from where I sit the Village is only interested in themselves, meaning (ADULTS.– some not all) We tend to want to blame everyone else for what WE ourselves have failed to do, because at the end of the day I can do my best to  teach my child the Best that I know and someone else will do their best to teach him/her the exact opposite, yet the responsibility ultimately lies with me because they are my Children (black, white, blue, green, whatever the color, there are only two(2) kinds of people in this world and they are GOOD AND BAD, nEEDLESS TO say That I only depended on Our Heavenly Father to help me with Mine and whomever he deemed fit to send my way to help me along this SWEET JOURNEY of MOTHERHOOD……

  • Maat1018

    Eh…I. am not supporter of BET nor Lil Wayne. I find it amazing how people who claim to abhor BET watch the awards shows season after season. I think its a waste of time to constantly criticize these entertainers like Lil Wayne because the fact is they are controlled by money & drugs. Period. As our those behind the machine known as BET. The fact remains that we as people do not have to listen nor watch BUT as you admitted you bob your head and listen to those killing baby lyrics. I know of people who NEVER listen to that stuff. People who were out. Enjoying any otheractivity besides BET award show viewing. My point is if BET is the new KKK then many of our “educated” leaders are indeed reminiscent of black leaders who took payoffd from white folk back in the day to allow the agenda of white supremacy to continue. Less talk about these rappers who continue to shine and more action towards getting us on track as a people by way of jos, schools, programs, family buiding, health workshops, etc. Thanks.

    • CultureKeeper

       Let me respond to your question of why some of us watch BET Awards.  Inasmuch as I actually only check on the BET programming occasionally to know how it may be progressing (or not) in order to be informed, I do watch these Award shows simply because I am somewhat “Starved” from seeing Black people get a realistic chance to be honored for their artistic work on TV.  However, this does NOT carry over to the HipHop community — which I do not appreciate and turn the channel at that point.  While I discredit the actions of Kanye West a couple of years ago on behalf of Beyonce, few people could dispute his intent — misguided as it was.  Usually the only way we are able to see our artists (True artists – not gangsta rappers) achieve their recognized success is on our own Award shows.  So that’s why many of us watch it — and turn off the rappers who generally come at the end.

  • Terry1801

    I agree Rap is the Dope game..rappers are the managers and sellers of the product like Frank Lucas but the distributions(Viacom, Vibe, and Radio) is controlled by whites.   Sad…Sad…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=772417809 Lamont Thompson

     I think this is a great opinion piece. I often feel that it has become way too easy for rappers like Wayne to dodge the accountability of the black community or “hip hop” community by saying that their product is merely “entertainment”. Interviewers often ask these guys how they feel about the kid that listens to their music then goes out and commits murder and they are quick to say that they didn’t put the gun in the kids hand. However, on the other side of that coin, rappers love to flaunt that “Hip-Hop is a culture”. Its a contradiction that goes far beyond entertainment.

    But, we in the black community are just as much to blame because we endorse these things. Parents aren’t parenting what their kids listen to or watch these days… at least not at a large capacity. And, that is in part due to the fact that the parents are listening and endorsing the same thing because in many households, they too are young and easily influenced.

    The solution would be to stop endorsing… boycott even. But, as you said, it is a guilty pleasure to bump your head to something that sounds and feels as good as hearing a Lil Wayne verse. And like Nino Brown in New Jack City testified to his dominance in the crack game, if you take one Lil Wayne out of the picture, then there will be a million others out there waiting to fill that spot.

  • bluemirror

    1. BET (even when Black owned) did our children a disservice. The network initially immersed as the “answer” to the ills presented to us by white corporate America television. The first mistake was having the word “entertainment” installed in our brains instead of the other “e” word – education.
    2. Lil Wayne will not have a staying power in the industry if this continues. He’s reached an all time low. His record sales will decrease. Give it time. The teenagers have a little more sense than what you give them credit for. 
    3. Spend more time educating young people about the Willie Lynch horror. The “divide and conquer” method is still working. 
    4. Stop using a white generated tactic to compare it to what it happening in music. This is an unfair comparison ans not very accurate. Once again, the white machine has won. “They” win every time you use their words. 

    • CultureKeeper

      Bluemirrir:  Are you aware that initially BET originated in Washington, D.C. maybe in the ’70s and actually DID mean Black EDUCATIONAL Television.  It attempted to have an educational programming — which was not slick but upcoming — yet WE WOULD NOT WATCH IT.  As much as I discredit Bob Johnson for “selling out”, I have to admit that the Black viewing community sold him out too.  Then BET became Black Entertainment Television and the rest is polluted history.

      Do you also recall that one of Michael Jackson’s brothers, pugilist Hollyfield, and others created an alternative Black TV Station.  It also was not supported by the Black Community and it failed.  We say we want these things but we do not support them if they make the effort.  I hear another new Black TV network is soon to be on the rise.  Let’s see what we will do to enhance and support that.  It seems to be a shame that BET is actually attempting to “improve” its programming — however, meager it may really be — ONLY after it is now in the hands of the white man.  I contend that we as a Black Community can still effect a positive change with BET and any other offending entity if we come together and make our voices heard.  So while it is not the sole culprit, I believe that a counteractive movement against honoring violence in music that BET tends to support is a good first step and well worth the effort.  Thank you Dr. Watckins for motivating the Black Community to be responsible for itself.

  • Anadinjo

    A must read for all parents and those who enjoy the hip hop scene.

  • Terry1801

    What is the difference between Rap and Fox news?  Nothing..Both target minorities.  Both focus on exploiting the negative.  Both are out to make a profit.  Russel Simmons, jay-Z, and P.diddy are no different than Rupert Murdock.  Both Products use the same slogan “Fair and Balanced”  but in the end. The products are unfair and unbalanced.  Also  another reason why Rap is still around is just like crack or anything else it’s cheap to make.  If you look at the ROI(return on investment) on a Rap Album vs a Rock or R&b album.  You  will see the returns are a lot higher on Rap.  So shareholders push Rap over music..sad

  • Swpkm

    Wow it gets no simpler then that……….. PARENTING – Amen, now what? My 13 year old son has the traditional, sereotypical family (Mom, Dad, God parents, even actively grandparents), yet his peers the one’s with no parenting and the ones with hella bad parenting, influence him in ways that I may never know for years to come.

    Giving a child something to fall back on such as a belief in God or Buda is what I call an insurance plan with benefits.

  • Josh99

    @d6457ddd4570e8404087f71302448b01:disqus   the same reason African Americans spend more time in jail for drug related offenses, than do whites, for same drug related offenses.  It’s a CON-spiracy.  Don’t you get it by now.

  • Blacknews101

    You seem to repurpose the
    same commentary every time BET is trending. Yes, finance professor, “we all
    know that celebrities increase ratings,” as does criticism of BET. But the
    leaps you have made here would stand up in few ivory towers, so I’m baffled as
    to why you would find it plausible to spout it here. BET, like most popular culture
    media, promote rappers and that makes them the KKK? Please stop. You’re
    pandering.
     

  • matthew carmody

    I say this as a 60 year old white guy. I’m sure parenting plays a part, but there are crowds of young white kids from stable, two-parent families just as lost as there are groups of black kids from strong homes. Why is the assumption made that because a kid is black s/he must come from a broken, dysfunctional family?

    Perhaps the white kid isn’t the product of a people that were violently ripped away from their culture and families, left to learn survival skills with absolutely no point of reference from which to begin. In America today there are millions of white kids who have no friggin’ idea of their roots who will scream, “USA, USA” at the top of their lungs with no knowledge of their own history.

    Even when slaves were freed after the Civil War, the stance of the whites was that “these people” now had everything they needed to survive and weren’t entitled to anything from their former owners. Really? They had no property on which to raise food and if they did own property they weren’t allowed to sell their crops in competition with whites. They had no place to live and many were forced back as contract workers to the plantations where previously they had been slaves. No amount of parenting erases the cultural remnants of that. 

    For people who know their history, they know that the reasons the GOP and conservatives hated the Warren court, and Earl Warren in particular, was because that was the court that came down with the Brown decision desegregating schools. Hell, southerners didn’t so much mind that blacks could walk the same streets with them or spend their money in white-owned stores just so long as their kids didn’t have to go to the same schools. That’s what the whole voucher program and charter school crap is about today. One of the ways the massive resisters tried to get around Brown was through voucher programs. And back then, the Patriots was a white supremacist group, as were the citizens’ councils. Haley Barbour is trying to rewrite history when he literally whitewashes the actions of the councils in southern life and the word “patriot” is being used as code by the Teabagger movement.

    Just drive south down Rt. 13 from Delaware, through Maryland and Virginia, and look at the stark differences between the large houses and the tarpaper shacks that are still occupied next to the railroad tracks.

    No  society that glorifies violence against any of its members is a healthy society. When we’re kids we all want things we’ll never have. The allure of hip-hop is that many kids see their peers acquiring things by becoming involved in the business or in the darker endeavors that supply contraband to those in and around the business.

    Excellent article.

  • Jason99

    again, @d6457ddd4570e8404087f71302448b01:disqus   your “parenting” comment doesn’t hold water with me.

     it always amazes me that white people think they have it going on in society, forgetting the evil ways of their past.   white “parenting” caused a whole nation of future white kids to sick dogs on African Americans, form all kinds of hate groups, beat, rop, rape, lynch a whole African American nation, and you wanna say that white ‘parenting’ is the bomb!  You’ve lost your mind!

    white people have unleashed their hate on every group on the planet.

    as far as your Black father comment:  white men (i.e. slave owners) still reign when it comes to illigitimate seedlings, having raped millions of Black women during slavery, jim crow, thus leaving a whole nation of fatherless kids.

    message to white people:   quit tryna label Black folk as a societal ill.   you are the worst, have been, forever will be.   just because we ‘civilized’ most of you, during the civil rights movement, doesn’t exempt you from your past crimes of evil, and devilment – for which you STILL have not been properly imprisoned. 

    If white people actually WENT to jail for their crimes, jails wouldn’t be mostly Black and Latino.

    That is all!

    • Antoine S.

      I am struggling to understand the anger at WhiteHusbandBlackWife. I am a black, 39 year old husband and father to 2 boys. I grew up in DC in a single parent household. Yet, I made choices different from many of my peers and the result is a college education x2, happy wife, happy children and a decent means of living. I’m not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but then again, who is? I don’t think the reason these things happened are because I am different or better but simply because I chose differently, despite being exposed to the same environment. WhiteHusband’s comments are really talking about the choices our community has made and are still making. The fact that he is white does not invalidate the truth of them just because we don’t like to hear these things from a white man.

      Black people, in particular black men, we have a big problem with criticism and self reflection. It is one reason why we have so much of a challenge dealing with black women. Let’s face it, no one confronts you like a sistah! Prior to the introduction of heroin, the black community had it right. Communities were made of real families. Every mom was “mom” to every child. Fathers sacrificed and when those who were less than men walked away, there were men willing to fill the void of fatherhood admirably. As a result, we had people aspiring to greatness despite the dearth of those very examples in the community and in the face of tremendous odds.

      Fast forward some 50-60 years and the doors are open wide for any of us to walk through if we had half the desire, focus and self-respect they had 50 years ago. But we whine about this and that and it all means nothing really. None of us had it or have it as hard as they did yet they accomplished more with less. How is that possible? It has nothing to do with the music. The music is a byproduct of what was already there. Sure, the music helps to continue the cycle but it didn’t create it. Remove the music without addressing the fundamental issue and something else more deviant will replace the music.
       
      It was family that made a difference. Families made the community. Real communities function differently. People knew each other. Cared for more than just themselves and what they have. The kids were safe even if mom or dad weren’t around because someone’s mom or dad was in eyesight. Correction for poor behavior and bad judgement was swift and to the point. That is not prevalent today. Black communities today do not function as a community. We are just a collection of individuals looking out for ourselves and little else. I saw a brother yesterday doing yard work. he had a leaf blower clearing the clippings from the sidewalk. What I noticed though is he took extra care to make sure he blew that trash well into the street away from his house as opposed to just picking it up and disposing of it responsibly. It is small, but the largest bodies of water started with one small drop of rain.

  • Lynn

    Dr. Boyce, this was an extremely powerful commentary.  Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    gwayne3000

    I thoroughly enjoy reading this web site and do so every time I see it in my inbox.

  • Macran22

    I think it is amusing to see a discussion like this. A few years ago clowns like this were revered as poets. They were telling the story of African-Americans in the city; NOW we see them for what they always were? These are the guys that ruin a community. These are the thugs who make our streets unsafe. These are the punks that turn our playgrounds into battlefields. Parents cannot change their childrens listening habits if they are blasting this music with their children in the car. Parents also should be ADULTS!! STOP CELEBRATING KIDS HAVING KIDS!!! Maybe after that we can work on some other family issues.

  • Macran22

    I think it is amusing to see a discussion like this. A few years ago clowns like this were revered as poets. They were telling the story of African-Americans in the city; NOW we see them for what they always were? These are the guys that ruin a community. These are the thugs who make our streets unsafe. These are the punks that turn our playgrounds into battlefields. Parents cannot change their childrens listening habits if they are blasting this music with their children in the car. Parents also should be ADULTS!! STOP CELEBRATING KIDS HAVING KIDS!!! Maybe after that we can work on some other family issues.

  • Cuse99

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    “So, by accelerating, financing and supporting the “Lil
    Wayne gospel” to a community that is already dying, BET has effectively
    positioned itself as a new and improved version of the KKK.”

     

    What??

     

    I understand your overall concern and criticism, but using
    illogical hyperbole undermines the point I believe you are trying to make.

     

    First, Chris Brown received the
    most nominations, not Wayne. Small point, but you have erected yourself onto a
    platform where information is dispensed so let’s at least inform correctly.

     

    By virtue of violence in lyrics
    and lifestyle, Wayne and others have “killed more black people than the KKK
    ever could”? Even metaphorically this argument is anemic, and in fact, absurd.
    KKK actively and directly intimidated a race of people with violence. You can
    make the claim that rap music has an incredible influence –sometimes
    negative—over our community without going to an extreme to suggest that folks
    have killed people just because they heard it in a song or, GASP, saw someone
    on BET.

     

    Where is the outrage at MTV for
    devoting an entire program (“Unplugged”) to Wayne, or Fuse for entire
    programming blocks featuring “Wayne-like artists,” or the radio stations that
    repeat the songs every hour, or you, the “insider” who bobs your head to it? 

     
    BET is always exclusively implicit
    in how every single black person on their network looks, acts, dresses, speaks.
    Unfairly. I like to joke that awards shows that are of highest quality are the
    ones that have the fewest rappers. I do not apologize for their mindless
    antics. They look a mess, sound foolish and appear to have no regard for
    hygiene. I blame the RAPPERS not one network out of many that broadcasts them.

     

    But the fact is, take away evil BET and murderous
    rappers and, as you eloquently noted, the community is still “already dying.” 

    • Shelly D

      I totally disagree with you, Cuse.  You say “Where is the outrage at MTV fordevoting an entire program (“Unplugged”) to Wayne, or Fuse for entireprogramming blocks featuring “Wayne-like artists,” or the radio stations thatrepeat the songs every hour, or you, the “insider” who bobs your head to it? ”

      My response to that is that the others are not bearing the name BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION. The other mediums also do not reach as many young blacks either.  That’s the difference.  I don’t expect the others to live up to educating and encouraging our children.  They never have.  MTV orginally didn’t want to air Michael Jackson.  So, who cares.  BET was created to be the outlet for blacks and was the initial standard bearer.  They also didn’t start out with the outrageous line-ups that they currently have.  (I remember my horror when they first aired Neffie and her mama – Keyshia’s family)  The Toya and Tiny thing as well. 

      Bob Johnson didn’t care because he was getting paid.  He then sold it to Viacom and became our first black billionaire.  Viacom was happy to not only keep the bs going, but added to it, all for the sake of the almighty dollar.

      You would think that the BET Awards, with their Lifetime Achievement Awards, and salutes to the Military and other people who are trying to make a change, would not want to denigrate those images with sagging pants, platinum teeth, and folks jumping around looking like the monkeys that blacks are always perceived as.

      But, I’m just sayin…….

      • DWimbelyeffect

        Bam!  My sentiments exactly, Shelly D.  Keep teaching…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T563IRI2GEXXKTAEB52VRCJ6HE Lavender Times

        Right on , Sister, right oooonnn!!!

  • Anonymous

    This article makes some very strong accusations and disproportionate analogies.  It is very extreme to compare the Black Entertainment Network to a white supremacy group known for their belief in maintaining a pure white race through active violence and harassment based on ethnicity and blatant ignorance.  I don’t believe that this group’s “thirst” to seek and destroy communities of color has died down considering  that up to 2011 (today), our news stations still report requests by the KKK to have marches in opposition to issues which make them uncomfortable (ironically). No, I don’t believe this to be a fair comparison, nor do I think it appropriate to say that there is a holocaust occurring within Black America.  This is an extreme misnomer. 

    We cannot hold the media responsible for raising our children.  Yes, youth are more easily influenced as they progress through adolescence and into their adult years, but it is very difficult to sway from a solid foundation provided by parents and family.  Our children are empty books whose pages we fill for years in their early life.  Our voices may fade into the background as they mature however a parent’s multifaceted role as educational, moral and social reinforcement (at the least) should never cease to exist. Under these conditions you are more likely to produce a secure individual who trusts his/her own judgment enough to make wise decisions with a vested interest in his/her future. 

    Lil Wayne has lived an exposed lifestyle from a very young age; this is what he raps about…this is his life.  BET and other media outlets promote the artists which thereby promotes their music, videos and sold persona but this does not mean WE have to expose ourselves or our children.  Therein lies consumer freedom.  Therein lies good parenting through monitoring and filling our children up with enough of our own good teachings that they are not empty vessels to be filled up solely by empty, impersonal images and words put forth by the dollar chasing media.

    BET cannot be held solely responsible for black on black violence and a lack of self worth among black youth.  I agree that what they promote can often hinder positive black progression through portraying negative imagery like gun violence (less often shown today), and supporting negative concepts like misogyny, promiscuity, adultery, and materialism.  Naming BET as the scapegoat removes the blame from harsh daily factors of reality: neglected urban schools, lack of positive recreational activities, politicians leading uninvolved and often unaware communities, poverty, unemployment, poor values passed down through generations (often due to lack of education), adult illiteracy, and most importantly poor family structure and parenting.  The structure of an individual starts at home.  Before we ever become aware of what a tv or radio is we know the nuturing voices of our mothers, fathers, and guardians. This article is a bit irresponsible in overlooking these major factors.  BET is not analogous to the KKK, rather it is merely a sorry education for a neglected and empty vessel.        

  • Anonymous

    The shame of all this is (1) a black man gave up control of a communication outlet (no one does that!?)-in one of the most powerful medias-TV. (2) Several years ago, black women were trying to warn us of this “hip-hop scourge”, and no one really listened, because it was women talking. 
     Now we begin to get excited because the young brothers have become crazed killers!! What did you expect – black women raise young black boys. It was decided we were not worth listening to…I guess those young black men also decided we women weren’t worth listening to either!!! 
    Please…do not expect corporate America to have a conscience…this country was not built on morality, but on a “dollar bill” – read your colonial history!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TSXBCWW3LMANG2DGBUWMXSTT2U joelv

    Well done article…Remember the movie “Bamboozled”! Enough said.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TSXBCWW3LMANG2DGBUWMXSTT2U joelv

    Well done article…Remember the movie “Bamboozled”! Enough said.

  • Firstladbrett1953

    HOLOCAUST???Dude,you are officially a DEMAGOGIC POPINJAY A**-CLOWN!!!!
    The pre World War Two Holocaust involved a genocidal group of beasts,the Nazis,who used the Germans’ latent anti-Semitism-and disdain of anyone they thought insufficiently Teutonic,i.e.,blond and blue-eyed-along with the Germans’ historic unthinking obeisance to authority to exterminate six million Jews and a nearly-equal
    number of Poles,Russians,Czechs,Romani (then called “Gypsies”),gays and others un-til war was declared on these mass murderers by the Allied Powers after Pearl Harbour.(You DO know who was responsible for Pearl Harbour,right,Boyce,bud?)
    The only “African American Holocaust” involves dumb-a**es’ attempts to emulate these rich “raptards” such as Lil’ Wayne,50 Cent,Three Six (IQ,that is!!!)Mafia,and these other advocates of the “black authenticity”/”keepin” in real” thug-life ethos of dressing,speaking,and behaving like a street hoodlum,FAR TO OFTEN WITH FATAL RESULTS!!!!-which bids fair to do what 350 years of slavery and another century of legalized oppression failed to acheieve,namely threaten THE VERY EXISTENCE OF AFRICAN AMERICANS!!!Now read something beyond that black nationalist bull-s**t you pitch to your lemming-like followers-oh right,YOU CAN’T,BECAUSE THEN THEY’D SEE WHAT A SLEAZE BALL YOU ARE!!!!

  • Brittany

    This article was nice, and im not saying that what was being said saying about the type of music that Wayne and other artist are putting out, but at the same time, the issue with the black community cant lie strictly in the arms of lil wayne, the issue that needs to be discussed is that the parents of these young african american children are allowing their children to hear this type of music. 

    Growing up in my house hold stuff like that was not getting listened too, so when went to my first lil wayne concert, when i was 20 years old, my mom was shocked as to why i was even going. Well my boyfriend at the time had tickets and so we went.. and after seeing Wayne perform live, I love him.. but at the same time listening to his music doesnt make me feel like killing anyone. The thing that people fail to realize is that this man is trying to make money so he can make a living. No one talks about the movies being made where the same exact thing that Wayne might rap about is being done actually showing these children how to do them, and get away with them. No one says anything about these movies because “its not real”, “its just a movie”, “stuff like that doesnt happen in real life”.. how about you think about that for the song lil wayne raps about.. “its not real”, “its just a movie”, and “its just a song”..

    What the black community needs to do is come together and work on all the issues and try to fix them, not try to find who they can put the blame on. 

    • Concerned Dad

      When you begin to identity the problem make no mistake artists with lyrics like these would have to be included. During the black exploitation movie years the outcry was strong. Black people saw the cult damage being done and stood against it. Do you still see these kinds of movies running rampant? Lil Wayne is just another exploiter of my community.

      • Cooldreamz

        exactly !

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T563IRI2GEXXKTAEB52VRCJ6HE Lavender Times

      What is the problem with blame on a guilty party?? And we don’t have to TRY and find someone, we already know it when we see it.  Like in the 70’s when black women could only portray whores in Hollywood movies and black men criminals and pimps.  We fought and wrote AGAINST those images.  Why do u think the Huckstable’s were so poplar?? We have been fighting the same devils since “The Birth of a Nation”.  The difference now is we are fighting the effects of brainwashing and self hate of our grandchildren and children. And for the record coming together in the black community today usually means attending a funeral, sad but true.  We still can’t fully define what we have lost and how to get it back.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T563IRI2GEXXKTAEB52VRCJ6HE Lavender Times

      What is the problem with blame on a guilty party?? And we don’t have to TRY and find someone, we already know it when we see it.  Like in the 70’s when black women could only portray whores in Hollywood movies and black men criminals and pimps.  We fought and wrote AGAINST those images.  Why do u think the Huckstable’s were so poplar?? We have been fighting the same devils since “The Birth of a Nation”.  The difference now is we are fighting the effects of brainwashing and self hate of our grandchildren and children. And for the record coming together in the black community today usually means attending a funeral, sad but true.  We still can’t fully define what we have lost and how to get it back.

  • Brittany

    This article was nice, and im not saying that what was being said saying about the type of music that Wayne and other artist are putting out, but at the same time, the issue with the black community cant lie strictly in the arms of lil wayne, the issue that needs to be discussed is that the parents of these young african american children are allowing their children to hear this type of music. 

    Growing up in my house hold stuff like that was not getting listened too, so when went to my first lil wayne concert, when i was 20 years old, my mom was shocked as to why i was even going. Well my boyfriend at the time had tickets and so we went.. and after seeing Wayne perform live, I love him.. but at the same time listening to his music doesnt make me feel like killing anyone. The thing that people fail to realize is that this man is trying to make money so he can make a living. No one talks about the movies being made where the same exact thing that Wayne might rap about is being done actually showing these children how to do them, and get away with them. No one says anything about these movies because “its not real”, “its just a movie”, “stuff like that doesnt happen in real life”.. how about you think about that for the song lil wayne raps about.. “its not real”, “its just a movie”, and “its just a song”..

    What the black community needs to do is come together and work on all the issues and try to fix them, not try to find who they can put the blame on. 

  • Msoyekan

    Thank you, thank you, thank you and tthank you. These are my sentiments exactly. I dont understand why black folks cannot see this. Its truly disturbing.

  • WOW

    Why am I not surprised at the fact that “WhiteHusbandBlackWife” have the most likes? A bunch of self-hating coons.

    • Lauren

      You shouldn’t be surprised because his comments actually make a lot of sense.  And maybe its is “self-hating coons” (by the way, way to defend your race, good job!) are the ones who recognize it.

    • SapphiresMomma

      @WO@7ec6615e5f89273d3f291c8f4d68624d:disqus 
      You sound very foolish.

      Why so much anger towards “WhiteHusbandandBlackWIfe”?

      Much of what he stated is true!

      You may not want ot hear the truth no matter who tells it, and that is one of our problems!

      We are so stuck on the past that we are blinded to the present and the future.

      BLACK FOLKS, PLEASE WAKE UP!

      • perfect gentleman

        the pushback whitehusband is getting is more in response to his condescension and presumptuousness than anything he’s suggested.  [even though flaws in his arguments have been pointed out].  coming from within, a lot of his points would be seen as a proverbial call to arms, but coming from some dude who married a black woman [which brings up SO much more to discuss!] it sounds unauthorized, and frankly, disrespectful.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZBJCWPQD5NRVCOAGLGLDFHEQAA WhoCares

    Well shame on you Dr. Boyce if you’ve ever “bopped” to any of that filth that comes from this dirty little boy! I am a mother of 4 sons. With one being wayward-the biggest struggle and heartbreak of them all, it is my duty to stand for dignity in our community starting with my own life. I, for one dismantled my relationship with BET many, many years ago! Its a travesty that people see that as the go to place for all black people. I was even watching a comedy show (Payaso comedy) when one of the comics said “I watch BET, I know black issues” that’s not how I want to be viewed by other cultures as pathetic and hopeless. That’s the message that  BET represents to our community and this generation-PATHETIC and HOPELESS.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZBJCWPQD5NRVCOAGLGLDFHEQAA WhoCares

    Well shame on you Dr. Boyce if you’ve ever “bopped” to any of that filth that comes from this dirty little boy! I am a mother of 4 sons. With one being wayward-the biggest struggle and heartbreak of them all, it is my duty to stand for dignity in our community starting with my own life. I, for one dismantled my relationship with BET many, many years ago! Its a travesty that people see that as the go to place for all black people. I was even watching a comedy show (Payaso comedy) when one of the comics said “I watch BET, I know black issues” that’s not how I want to be viewed by other cultures as pathetic and hopeless. That’s the message that  BET represents to our community and this generation-PATHETIC and HOPELESS.

  • Anonymous

    Dr. Boyce,

    I have written several posts about subjects where I strongly disagree with you, but this is not one of them.   You commentary on Lil Wayne, BET, and disrespectful rappers is spot on.   Last night’s award show was so disturbing that I could not sit through the whole thing.   I turned to another channel about half way through.   

    Do black people actually enjoy watching other black folk dressed like idiots, singing violent   songs with disgusting lyrics so foul that every other word has to be bleeped out, prancing around the stage, grabbing their private parts and ripping off their ghoulish shirts to a thump, thump, thump beat ??   Is that actually enjoyable to people ?

    But MOST disheartening was to watch beautiful black women in the audience stand and applaud such behavior.  The songs are denigrating to black women and they stand and applaud !!!!   

    All I can say is that I am glad that I am at an age that I probably won’t be around to watch when this ‘Hip Hop’ generation gets to be middle age (if they live that long) and have kids who follow in their footsteps.   It seems that to be rich and famous these days, one must find a way to be even more outrageous than the last Godless creature performing for whitey.

    God help us all.

  • Anonymous

    Dr. Boyce,

    I have written several posts about subjects where I strongly disagree with you, but this is not one of them.   You commentary on Lil Wayne, BET, and disrespectful rappers is spot on.   Last night’s award show was so disturbing that I could not sit through the whole thing.   I turned to another channel about half way through.   

    Do black people actually enjoy watching other black folk dressed like idiots, singing violent   songs with disgusting lyrics so foul that every other word has to be bleeped out, prancing around the stage, grabbing their private parts and ripping off their ghoulish shirts to a thump, thump, thump beat ??   Is that actually enjoyable to people ?

    But MOST disheartening was to watch beautiful black women in the audience stand and applaud such behavior.  The songs are denigrating to black women and they stand and applaud !!!!   

    All I can say is that I am glad that I am at an age that I probably won’t be around to watch when this ‘Hip Hop’ generation gets to be middle age (if they live that long) and have kids who follow in their footsteps.   It seems that to be rich and famous these days, one must find a way to be even more outrageous than the last Godless creature performing for whitey.

    God help us all.

  • ‘dr j’

    Outstanding, Dr. Boyce!  Brilliant.
    ‘dr. j’

  • ‘dr j’

    Shelly D….off the hook awesome!  Thx!!!!
    ‘dr j’

  • Mirijacobs

    It is very very very sad that we’ve allowed Lil Wayne to even come this far. He is lost in a world of money and no respect for himself.  He looks like the devil himself.   However God has a plan for him also.  In the meantime we just have to let our young children know to stay far away from him and his music and we must keep him in prayer.

    Concerned Grandparent (MJ)

  • neetra

    This is nothing new, we need less talk and more action.  We have given up our power, do we have to listen to BET? Hell no.

  • Chunsu King

    I worked at the white owned Source magazine and it is sad to say that we simply do not care, as a people, about our culture). If Little Wayne decided to make raps with a positive message he would be shut down because in the rap/music industry that is just not acceptable. Little Wayne is not the problem, he is just a pawn in the game.There are a slew of rappers out there who can shut down Little Wayne lyrically—especially KRS-One, Rakim, and Methodman but the white-owned industry has laid down a rule that once you live past the age of death and imprisonment they do not want to hear a word you got to say. The media is a powerful tool in helping to shape our minds and form opionion, so I understand your point but we need to start creating our own media because Little Wayne’s success is simply a by-product of a white supremacist’s agenda.

    • BlackHusbandBlackWife

      Well said.

  • Eve

    This article is ridiculous. How in creation is a network comparable to the KKK? Seriously? For the record, Lil Wayne is not just on BET. He also appears on FUSE, MTV, VH1, magazines from Rolling Stone to Vibe and all over the internet. So then ALL of those media outlets are the KKK too?
    BET does have some shortcomings, but it has become the “whipping post” for all that is wrong in Black America, and that is not fair. To my knowledge, no one has died as a result of anything on BET, while the KKK… it’s simply not the same.

    • DWimbelyeffect

      BET – BLACK Entertainment Network, as declared by that foolish man who started it.  BET, to make money and pay bills to Viacom, will put anything on that black people will watch.  We won’t watch reruns of the Cosby show, nor will we watch, A Different World, or Teen Summit.  What is left?  The crap that comes NONSTOP on this network.  KKK or not, BET does not reflect anything that I would want to raise my 11 year old on nor my 18 year old.

      To your point, other media outlets do not advertise themselves as OUR entertainment and news source.  So you are completely WRONG.  The article is FAR from ridiculous.

      BET should be a “whipping post” until it gets it ish together, or stop marketing to my children.  I say again, KKK or BET?  What’s the difference?  I have to protect my children from BOTH of these destructive forces.

      Peace to you, Eve.

      • Eve

        There is a difference between what is marketed to your children and what they watch. There are also sweets, food that does terrible damage to our bodies, and violent video games advertised everywhere, and people don;t focus on what that does to our communities as well. 
        What YOUR children watch is YOUR choice. Why blame the network? That is nothing but laziness. People don’t want to do the work of parenting, but instead want to blame every other outlet for the ills of the community. BET may be a PART of the problem, they do not make up the whole problem. The network also hosts shows that highlight positive actions, and people don’t watch them. Do you watch the network nonstop? If you don’t, then how would you know it’s nonstop crap? 

  • God’s_Angel

    There are both single parents & 2-parent households that instilled good morals in their children, but still watched outside influences enter their child’s mind. Sometimes, the things you tell your child to stay away from are the things luring your child. Children become curious, and danger becomes intoxicating to a child that may have been sheltered as a child. And until you have teenagers, you have no idea how much influence that their peers, & society, has over them once they get “curious about life”.

    Just like Eve became curious & ate the apple with Adam, because an outside influence peaked her curiosity, our children also become curious when lured by outside influences.

  • Mayne

    Dr. Boyce hits the nail on the head w/ this one.  I was so disgusted by the BET Awards and the glorification of Lil Wayne and the likes that I had to turn my tv off.  We need to stop blaming white America for Black America’s (especially black males) problems.  Black men (like these) are black men’s problems.  When black males exalt the likes of Lil Wayne et al as God (really little g-od), it’s no wonder our black men are a dying breed.  And at the hands of other black men.  It’s no wonder sisters are more and more dating men outside their race.  As much as we don’t want to admit it, the BET of the 21st century IS the new KKK.  Long gone are the shows that edified our youth like Teen Summit.  That show taught young people how to carry themselves in a respectful, get an education, have healthy relationships, grow up to be upstanding citizens in their communites.  The BET of the 21st century does the exact opposite, meanwhile raking in millions and probably billions of dollars for VIACOM.  So sad.

  • http://twitter.com/quest4me gayle harvey

    Bottom line….It’s all about the money, Our youth wants it, and coorporate america wants to see and hear of this type devistation in our culture. All of these lyrics are alive and well as a way of life in a lot of communities!! “Precious” is not far fetched!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7ONMGPITX2AX7HEXKFV56TZOU JellyBean

    I have been saying and thinking the same thing for years. Not so much about BET but our own (black)  people, in how we act like the KKK. Back in the day, white folks would terrorize your neighborhood. Now it is our kind. If we speak out, we are selling out. We even made shirts about “Don’t Snitch.” Interesting. Come on, black america. My heroes; Thrugood Marshall, Dr. Martin L. King, Rosa Parks, and my great-great aunt Fannie Lou Hamer did not put their lives on the line so that I (we) could  just create this kind of situation in our neighborhood. We gotta do better, black folks. That is why I boycotted Hip-Hop years ago. The same things that we blamed white folks for years ago, we are doing the same thing to ourselves..just turning our backs because it is our own kind doing it to us now. Shame black america. Shame.

  • Thebshopper

    it seems like every race has a similiar issue, so what’s the difference??? I listen to alot of hip hop but I get up and go to work everyday and pay a lot of taxes.. I haven’t decided to go and kill someone. People have choices, it’s their dumb fault if they choose to go and do something stupid. Lil Wayne didn’t make me do it, neither did Scarface or Biggie..

  • Anonymous

    BET stopped being BET when Johnson sold out to Sumner Redstone. Now it’s just what Redstone and his minions think of African Americans,and not what you think of yourselves at all. BET lost it’s relevance years ago,but for some strange reason that I can’t figure out,African Americans continue to watch. If someone(BET and Sumner Redstone)  portrays you as ignorant buffoons and you continue to support that channel,it’s your fault. 

  • Ms. Chickee

    So true, this type of music does cause Mental Shackles.   “Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery Non But Ourselves can Free our Minds have no fear…….”Bob Marley
    “Music is suppose to inspire.” said Lauryn   Song of Joy and Gladness make us free empowered!

  • Mammanono

    To Sag Or Not to Sag: Is Ghetto The New Black? Perhaps it is time for us to unite and get rid of vermon like Lil Roach boy. Written by Janet Hubert (Fresh Prince old mom) Also on Eurfacebook. A  must read. Why has it taken you so long Dr Boyce? BET stands for Black Exploitation Television, always has.

  • tk

    I myself have a a few opinions on the above matters mentioned in the article. First I am offeneded that there is even a BET to begin with. There would be an uproar if there was a strictly white television channel. That is a double standard if I ever saw one. And second when in god’s name is color going to stop being a crutch? Can I as a Native American tell all of you transplants to give me back what is rightfully mine and my children’s? We have been all but erradicated. I am sick of hearing about how bad life is because of skin color. Grow up, hold your head up, close your legs, and raise a respectful family. Children are only as strong and respectful as their parents raise them to be… So stop balming TV stations and skin color and start blaming yourselves.

  • Gwen Wood

    I haven’t watched the BET Awards ~ but I intend to do so TODAY & I’m sharing on FB, this piece by Dr. Boyce that has inspired me to do so. I had no idea how BAD & DANGEROUS the streets of the USofA have become for our African-American children WHICH to some degree spend their time listening to the likes of  ‘LIL WAYNE instead of reading the books needed to DO THEIR SCHOOL HOMEWORK for the NEXT day! SO SAD! jus’ sayin’ <3 Gwen Wood, Honolulu, Hawaii

  • New School Teacher

    Dear Dr. Boyce,

    As a teacher in NYC public school I am often confronted with “information” regarding the achievement gap in education between Black, Latino and White students. As an educator I would really like to solicit your opinion on the “why’s  behind this gap. I understand that the more well educated parents are… the better prepared students are for school and I have read all the research that I can get my hands on, however I am dissatisfied with the answers. 
    So, I am curious if you believe that as we head toward a numerical “majority” minority nation, the “achievement gap” conversation is just another way to maintain the status quo? It seems to me if we spend the next 10-15 years arguing that Blacks are at fault for the gap and continue to allow 50% of African American and Latino males to drop out of high school and fill prisons, becoming a numerical majority will mean nothing positive for people of color in this nation by 2050! It seems to me that this is a way to maintain the status quo ( like just before the civil war) without bloodshed and bullets.
    If we provide a free but inadequate education to those who are already disenfranchised and disconnected from the mainstream systems ( i.e. voting, education and industry), we reinforce their perceived position of inferiority and then capitalize on it for political and economic gains. 
    The “achievement gap” is a very profitable business for Ivy grads with big ideas about how to educate “poor minority” kids. But when we “forget” how to teach? We effectively educated African American kids before civil rights in the face of tremendous adversity… so what could be our excuse now?
    Furthermore, all of us should recognize that poor education is a guaranteed pipeline to prisons which have become private on the public dime.
    Dear Sir… I am just trying to see the big picture to understand how to attack the problem effectively. Please help!!!

  • Kindred2x

    There has been an undercover social engineering project to destroy the black family.  Having said that since the problem exists and it is in an ”emergency status.  Black organizations, black churches, black politicians, black entertainers, black athletes, wealthy caring black persons as well as any one else who cares   need to meet, create a plan to address the following issues:
    Promoting marriage
    Promoting responsible fathering. whether married or not
    Promoting responsible parenting
    Promoting economic growth and development
    Destroying the criminal mindset being developed in our young people
    Promoting education
    Addressing the corporate prison system that entraps our people. 

    For every rap video that BET plays with negative messages they should in turn show a Public Service Announcement highlighting positive mindset.  In fact they should use athletes and entertainers, politcians and entrepreneurs to do these spots. 

    Every black person should constantly ask themselves “what small or large thing could I do to move myself, my family, my neighborhood forward toward successful living. 

    The time for talk is over.  Action speaks louder than words and can we please put our egos aside and do something.  Time is running out. 

    • CultureKeeper

      At last!  A rational response WITH A PLAN OF ACTION.  Very interesting and very much needed.  Puts teeth into the lipsynching.  There may be more to be done, but this is a great start.

  • Jazzy

    Original poster: Yes, parenting is very necessary in ALL communities (not just black).  I am disappointed that someone in an interracial marriage can point to black fathers as the sole fault of the black community (not in so many words…but you did).  I actually see parenting as the controlling factor in all races–actually more white than anything.  Kids do stupid things.  As parents, we (generally speaking) will never be able to be next to our kids 365/24/7.  I having lived all over the world my entire life, have seen more dissenting *white* kids, versus black.  This is not racial profiling, this is facts.  If black people get harsher sentencing because of their wrongs, than they are adamant to apply pressure to future wrongs against said behavior.  However, if the white person is only getting a slap on the wrist for the same crime/misdemeanor…wellllll???  (Yes, they will continue the behavior).

    Another point I’d like to make is the fact that you mention parents tell black children how to watch out for racial profiling.  Well, I can probably tell you a high percentage of blacks have been subjected to racial profiling, so therefore, they know how to act in said situation.  How many of those same people have had weed in their car (smoking, selling, etc.)?  It’s common and common sense not to commit a crime, so telling your kids not to do it is just a job of parenting.  Just because a kid gets caught with drugs or other crimes does not mean he had bad parenting…rather, he did something stupid and got harsher punishment than his white friend/counterpart.  It’s not really *normal* to be stopped two streets from your home and harassed just because you drive a nice car (but it happens more than drug crimes).

  • http://twitter.com/Pahlewan2 Bhimsen Kumar

    I quit watching BET and switched to TVOne and The Africa Channel.  If enough people did that, maybe something will change or they’ll pull the plug altogether.

  • Anonymous

    Dr. Watkins:

    GREAT post!  Arguments about the effects of violent music on youth are always distilled into the need for parenting and personal responsibility, but I am more intrigued by your claim that Lil Wayne is a newer, improved version of the Klan.  Just to play devil’s advocate, how would you respond to the proposition that Lil Wayne is a conduit of black wealth and therefore helpful to the black community?  America loves a Horatio Alger story, and Lil Wayne’s is that of someone born in the slummiest of projects who transcended to become one of the wealthiest Americans under 30.  He’s a living testament to the American dream.  He is able to transfer wealth from the upper echelons of the (white) music industry and trickle it down to black communities.  I don’t even know if he is actually doing that, but it seems to me that what differentiates him from the Klan is his potential to transfer large amounts of money theoretically from white hands into black ones.  Do you think that’s a valid differentiation?  A black person’s acquisition of wealth has to be intrinsically valuable to the black community, right?

  • Marilyn Chery

    Parents really have to control and monitor what their children are watching.  I have an eleven year old and nine year old boys and a four year old girl.  I’ve been monitoring their television watching for eleven years.  I happened to be at my father’s house  when unknowingly the BET awards was showing.  I was getting my Dad, who has alzeiheimers for bed.  My 22 year old niece also lives with him.  I heard the TV playing in the living room when I walked into the apartment, my kids went towards the TV; I went the opposite direction with my Dad to prepare him for bed.  I kept hearing my niece giggling from what she was viewing on the TV, but my kids I didn’t hear them laughing.  I heard one of them say “Oh my God, why is he up there with his shirt open?”  Another child said.” look at his pants they’re about to fall down”.  WhileI exiting the bathroom with my Dad, my older son walked down the hallway; and said to me, “Mom can we go?”  I said, “I’m almost done with grandpa”.  He did not go back to the living room, but went to the kitchen instead.  I finished with my Dad and left his bedroom.  When I got to the kitchen I saw all of my three children were there. Once my older child got up the other two joined him in the kitchen.  Only my niece was watching the BET awards.  When I went to see why the kids left the room I saw 4 people on stage.  One was an overweight guy with his shirt opened and his breasts bouncing up and down. Another guy with long hair with his pants under his derriere.   I saw my niece with the biggest smile on her face, like this was” the best stuff on earth that she was viewing.  I felt very proud of my kids because they got up from what they were viewing because something in their consciousness told them to get up and get out.  So it starts with parenting.  If the parents are watching this junk, their kids will follow. When I watch TV with my kids I talk to them about the negative behavior they are viewing.  The negative things are not limited to adult movies.  My kids don’t view adult movies.  All the negativity are in the cartoons, family sitcoms, and family movies. With the DVR technology, I  have the luxury of pressing the pause button and have a teachable moment with my children  as its happening.  Waiting until the show is over is too late because the child will not know what you’re talking about   and I risk the chance of not remembering which parts to go over with my children.  It felt good to hear my kids speaking up for something they knew that would not benefit them, but the sad thing is my 22 year old niece kept giggling unitl I left the apartment with my children.

  • chrisw7kids

    I scarcely don’t know where to start. Your article is flawed from it’s very inception because it’s based on young black males not having enough brain power to be able to decipher any negative messages from any forms of music…not just hip hop. Then to further state the only reason the white kids aren’t driven to these extremes is because of parenting! This is simply absurd…are there NO black parents around? Is it hip hop that’s driving the young white kids to meth or cocaine?…haven’t heard one hip hop lyric that says to engage in this activity but yet meth is the number one drug of choice for them, how is that explained…with their parents in the house too? White people seem to have kids that are out of control to the point where they make TV shows about their  I am a single father of 7 children (5 boys and 2 girls) and I have 3 kids in college, 1 in HS and 2 in grade school…all have exceptional grades and are involved in various activities…all listen to hip hop…NONE arrested, gang bang, do drugs, both daughters still virgins! I just wanted to drop some knowledge on you since you’re a professor and all…uplift bruh!

  • http://twitter.com/globalfusionist global fusion prod.

    It seems many Black Folks on this thread can’t handle WhiteHusbandBlackWife’s truth. We need to stop making excuses because nothing he has said isn’t true & can not be proven at any randomly picked Black Urban neighborhood. Our excuses only give us temporary solace from moving forward & making real changes. We can’t just blame BET, Rappers, The White man & his racist rules etc. We all know racism exists, we all know that Blacks get incarcerated more than whites etc. so stop being demagogues & constantly talking about it instead of doing something about it. Racism & Society is not going to change any time soon so we better start changing. WhiteHusbandBlackWife is absolutely right while your teaching your children how to interact with cops teach them or better yet give them the skills & resources to never have to use the how to act with cops training. There are people all over the world who live with poverty & limited resources yet they raise great children & understand the value of marriage. Black Americans are not the only ones who experienced slavery & racism -there are Africans, Indians, Latin Americans, West Asians etc. all over the world still experiencing slavery & racism without the legal protections & any type of welfare system to help them in any away yet somehow they still get thru, understand the value of marriage & parenting with or without marriage. Let’s stop the excuses & break the cycle because our children need us!

  • Amma Sarfo

    It seems many Black Folks on this thread can’t handle WhiteHusbandBlackWife’s truth. We need to stop making excuses because nothing he has said isn’t true & can not be proven at any randomly picked Black Urban neighborhood. Our excuses only give us temporary solace from moving forward & making real changes. We can’t just blame BET, Rappers, The White man & his racist rules etc. We all know racism exists, we all know that Blacks get incarcerated more than whites etc. so stop being demagogues & constantly talking about it instead of doing something about it. Racism & Society is not going to change any time soon so we better start changing. WhiteHusbandBlackWife is absolutely right while your teaching your children how to interact with cops teach them or better yet give them the skills & resources to never have to use the how to act with cops training. There are people all over the world who live with poverty & limited resources yet they raise great children & understand the value of marriage. Black Americans are not the only ones who experienced slavery & racism -there are Africans, Indians, Latin Americans, West Asians etc. all over the world still experiencing slavery & racism without the legal protections & any type of welfare system to help them in any away yet somehow they still get thru, understand the value of marriage & parenting with or without marriage. Let’s stop the excuses & break the cycle because our children need us!

  • Hermhawk1951

    Dr. Watkins, you have spoken on an issue I have felt strongly about.  I have not watched BET in over a decade due to the garbage they have put out.  However Viacom should not get all of the blame; they were merely following the coonery put out and allowed by their predecessor, the founder Bob Johnson.  With companies like this, who needs the Ku Klux Klan.  This is the new genocide.  BET in my opinion now stands for “BLACK EMASCULATORY TRASH!”

  • Fashionfair2

    Dr. Watkins, you used one of the most important and potent words in the dictionary…ACCOUNTABILITY. Why??? is it that Viacom,BET and Lil Wayne are “accountable” to our community and our youth? Should we as parents and the “village” not be so? All too often, our intellectuals hinge the growth and survival of the Black Community on mainstream media, corporate, politicians and White America. I believe as WhiteHusbandBlackWife points out the myriad of issues the Black community experiences are all to often due to lack of PARENTAL and community “Accountability”.  STOP!! the rhetoric and angry speak and tell the truth as to the matters. State fact and not oponion so that WE are abl to make informed choices and decisions.

    • M.Hicks

      Stuff ain’t mutually exclusive. It isn’t “either/or,” it’s “both/and”.

      Dwayne Carter is wrong. BET is wrong. When we do not parent as we should, we are wrong.

      Problem is, how do we fix the damage when so many Black folk as destroyed and lost in a haze of drugs, crime and stupid behavior? Who’s going to be the mamas and daddies of kids whose biologicals made them, but either don’t or can’t have the abilities to properly raise them?

  • http://www.aleishagore.com aleisha

    Really well written…definitely disturbing and not something to just think about but rather to act upon.

  • http://www.aleishagore.com aleisha

    Really well written…definitely disturbing and not something to just think about but rather to act upon.

  • Theunknownauthor11

    The bottom line is TRAUMA. The cycle of trauma/the seed of self-hatred & self-sabotage that was planted during the times of slavery within the Black community needs to stop, we have done a fantastic job taking over where White people left off. I come from a TWO parent dysfunctional home, all of the emotional & physical abuse I endured was a result of a long line of dysfunction. The kids who live by these networks/rappers are trying to be a little less lonely in this world & I understand, but the negativity within our community needs to stop it needs to nothing more than nihilism & when you get to that point you just don’t care about society anymore & poor decision after poor decision follows.

    Show your kids the RIGHT way by loving them & treating them like human beings who are deserving of respect & love, if you fail to do this they will turn their attention to all of the negative things available to fill a void.

  • Theunknownauthor11

    The bottom line is TRAUMA. The cycle of trauma/the seed of self-hatred & self-sabotage that was planted during the times of slavery within the Black community needs to stop, we have done a fantastic job taking over where White people left off. I come from a TWO parent dysfunctional home, all of the emotional & physical abuse I endured was a result of a long line of dysfunction. The kids who live by these networks/rappers are trying to be a little less lonely in this world & I understand, but the negativity within our community needs to stop it needs to nothing more than nihilism & when you get to that point you just don’t care about society anymore & poor decision after poor decision follows.

    Show your kids the RIGHT way by loving them & treating them like human beings who are deserving of respect & love, if you fail to do this they will turn their attention to all of the negative things available to fill a void.

    • Cooldreamz

      could not have said it better myself, this is the whole point of this discussion..thankyou for breaking it down :)

  • SapphiresMomma

    Folks!

    Please let’s stay on topic here!

    We all know what was done to us during slavery. That was hundreds of years ago!

    We need to put that behind us and stop using slavery as a scape goat for everything negative about us!

    We need to deal with the NOW!  Not the past!

    In fact, after slavery and during the Jim Crow days we did not have  black folks acting like they do today!  Back then black people had respect for themselves and each other. Black parents took care of their children and raised them right!

    We have parents today that are not raising their children!

    Some of these parents know darn well what their children are doing, but they do not care!

    Black women are bringing black babies into this world that they know they can’t take care of, and they know that the fathers of these children can’t and will not take care of them.

    We have lost respect for ourselves (some of us, not all), and it is far too many and that brings us down as a whole!  Let’s call a spade a spade!

    We neet to stop supporting those who are out to disrespect and destroy our children.

  • Jaleelshkr

    Mental slavery has been our problem for a long long time.
    When you see so many of us choose indecent morals and ignorance as a life style what
    do we expect G-D to do with us.We as a race of people have turned our back on our best
    leaders,no other race of people on earth have been given as many leaders as we have and
    look at the lot of us following ignorance,foolishness,perversion and indecency.
    Because we choose to follow falsehood rather than the truth and satan and his schemes
    G-D has cursed the black race in america and africa.  

    • Cooldreamz

      G-D hasn’t cursed us, we are blessed with many talents, wisdom, and shades of beauty. G-D gave us plenty gifts and I’m not talking material things. The ones that recognize and free themselves from mental slavery currently are raising their youth with freed minds also and they will be freeing the rest of our people in the future……but we are exactly the opposite of cursed :)

    • http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/ John Prewett

      No race is cursed and No race is saved.   You are not a race.  You are a person.   Your relation to God is  up to YOU.   “seek and you will find”  “knock and the door will be opened” Up to YOU. 

      • Cooldreamz

        we are a race, a race of dark complexions that protect us from the sun and wooly hair that doesn’t fall in our eyes and block our vision and its tones of brown like our eyes, we have round to flat noses not high nose bridges that hinders us from seeing the opposite side of our face, so don’t say we are not a race of blessed people, the effort was made to keep our true history from us because they want to deny us that but it can be denied no longer. :)

        • Listeningto

          That is some BS, but worded well.

  • Drlori4

     I agree with Dr. Boyce….it was a shame and a disgrace. I actually got tired of looking at a grown man’s underwear!! Pull your pants up for heaven sakes!! How can we even consider this music. I mean really. I also agree with you WhiteHusbandBlackWife. Thanks for having the guts to say the TRUTH!!! Love your  wife with every thing in you.

  • TheSwats

    There are plenty good black men with jobs and a good head on thier shoulders.  I dont understand how when black women BREED with the worst of us…we are the dam problem. 

  • http://twitter.com/deedeerussell Dee Dee Russell

    I TOTALLY agree! I’ve been saying this on stage and screen for years now. Self hate misogyny and closet cases and RUINED the Black community. Dr. Boyce is saying the same stuff that Kola Boof says. Bravo!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/samsarah.morgan Samsarah Morgan

    completely agree – our songs were meant to uplift us, educate us or help us transform… its no surprise that BET  a white owned corpration aids and allows this soul destroying music…

  • http://www.SaNaBlues.com SaNa

    It is an unconscious residual of slavery. “If you can control a man’s thinking you do not have to worry about his action. If you make a man feel that he is inferior, you do not have to compel him to accept an inferior status, for he will seek it himself. If you make a man think that he is justly an outcast, you do not have to order him to the back door.  He will go without being told; and if there is no back door, his very nature will demand one. Carter G. Wood (1933). The Mis-Education of the Negro

  • http://www.SaNaBlues.com SaNa

    It is an unconscious residual of slavery. “If you can control a man’s thinking you do not have to worry about his action. If you make a man feel that he is inferior, you do not have to compel him to accept an inferior status, for he will seek it himself. If you make a man think that he is justly an outcast, you do not have to order him to the back door.  He will go without being told; and if there is no back door, his very nature will demand one. Carter G. Wood (1933). The Mis-Education of the Negro

  • Daddy-O

    Well said. I’d love to chat if you can. -Daddy-O (Stetsasonic)

    • M.Hicks

      Go Stetsa I is a personal favorite.

      Good to see that a cat like you is involved in the “community.”

  • Ctucker

    Well said, Dr. Watkins. The only thing you forgot to mention is that BET is run by a BLACK WOMAN. Debra Lee is directly responsible for the destruction of black male and female identity around the world. Her embrace of Chris Brown last night and her corporate practice of cultural genocide is the modern day version of the Willie Lynch letter. And while BET is owned by Viacom they seem to hold their other network MTV to a higher standard and refuse to show some of the videos that BET keeps in heavy rotation. But the only people that can change BET is US. WE MUST DEMAND BETTER and hold BET accountable.

    BET is public enemy number 1!

    • Listeningto

      That is so true!

  • Bkl

    I found the article very interesting until the last paragraph when you actually put the KKK, Republicans and Tea Party in the same sentence as if they have anything in common. ignorant statement!

    • Concerned Dad

      No. The statement is no ignorant. He sees each of these entities as not meaning the black community any good. Just because one was hooded and anonymous doesn’t mean the others, who are not hooded, are not equally as treacherous.

      • Anonymous

        Please explain to me why Republicans and Tea Partiers are “treacherous”. I can’t wait to hear this…

  • YoungGifted&Black

    This is the problem, epidemic rather, in our black community. We can’t forget or put aside our individual differences, opinions, personal triumphs or tragedies, to achieve a common goal anymore. I just spent 45 minutes of my life that I can’t get back reading garbage. It’s not about if WhiteManBlackWife or whatever is a racist or if you successfully raised your kids on your own, the POINT is, we have an oppressor that needs to be taken out.

    During the Civil Rights Movement it was Jim Crow and inequality, now sadly, its “our” own entertainment. I blame alot of “our” media on how screwed up we are. Lets face it, we’re influenced by media. Good or bad. Whether you bought a silver glove during the MJ era or you wanted to attend a college like Hilman. The issue is what we’re allowing and supporting in the media. When we give shows like “The Game, Real Housewives of Atlanta…” And others high ratings or purchase music degrading to women and families is the problem. Keep your eyes on the prize people and quit turning on one another and tackle the monster.

    No amount of parenting can disregard the influence of pop culture, we just have to be more vigilant in banning and speaking out against these things. In arguing or discussing this issue (where most of you alls points are only emotionally and personally validated) why aren’t you writing letters to your local radio station with a petition against certain songs, artists? Women raising men alone, why aren’t you pushing autobiographies of Malcolm X, Ben Carson, ect in your sons hands (all by the way were raised by single moms and became very successful) …you can’t change your circumstances, but you can change your outcome.

    Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

  • Gaprap1

    Dr. Boyce, it warms my heart to read your comments. I find it so disheartening to see what has happened to BET and the message conveyed on award shows such as the one the good Dr. profiled. I also find it uncanny that there are a group of outstanding, skilled, black artist who are as aware of what Lil’ Wayne is doing and represents, who stand in league with him for the sake of show business.  I believe that artist who profess a love for their fans and the betterment of you folks show refuse to take the stage when “Wayne” is going to be one of the performers. It’s almost like when Ray Charles took the position that he would no longer perform in areans where blacks were not allowed, or where they were relegated to particular seating arrangements. Our artist ought to overlook money, fame, and fortune and REPRESENdT! I don’t want to hear that Wayne’s crap is art when it gives rise to the manner in which our young black men carry themselves, disrespecting elders, women, babies, and anything else that does not align with the manner in which they care to live. Wayne is a waste!!!  I applaud you Dr. Boyce.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent article!!!!!!!!……..up until the very last sentence. Why did you have to diss Tea-Partiers and Republicans? Why is it so commonplace to believe that the Republicans are not for black people? This is a result of the liberal media. George Bush did far mroe for blacks than Obama has done. Obama has done far more for homosexuals than blacks, and while the US is at nearly 10% unemployment, the black community is nearly at 30%.
     
    All the Republicans and Tea Partiers want is lower taxes and less government. How can anyone argue with this? The government in San Francisco literally BANNED Happy Meals! Why does the government have so much power that they can literally come into your house and tell your kids what and what not to eat? This country is in horrible debt, and the answer to debt is not always “we should make more money”. NO. The answer is being more responsible with the money you already have. How can our government be the richest government in the world, but be in debt? The answer is bad spending and that’s what the Tea Party is all about. I’m a black man and there are several black Tea Partiers.
     
    It’s bad enough walking around and my family thinks I’m a disgrace, please don’t endorse this nonsense too. Martin Luther King Jr was a Republican (his kids said so themself), and Condoleeza Rice said her whole family was Republican because the Southern Democrats tried to intimidate any blacks in her city from voting. All black people used to be Republicans (especially since LIncoln freed the slaves) but it’s as if the Democrats literally bought us out by creating the Welfare system.
     
    Looks like there plan worked…
     
    Now I’m one of the “greatest enemies of black people”?
     
    SMH.
     
    What a tragic end to such a wonderful article

  • Paige Eldridge

    Dr.Boyce,I’m so sick and tired of you educated guys that equate to educated fools.A Lil’ Wayne boycott is as foolish as you if you think your boycott of him will make any kind of a difference..I have young daughters to and I see the destruction of our young black males everyday living 15 minutes away from Washington D.C. in Fort Wasington Md.His lyrics are tradgic but this young man has 10 million followers in the States to your maybe 1,000.So you do the math.Hip-Hop is the most powerful forum to date,so we need to get smart and not pissed this madd genius off but to get on there level if there’s any hope for change…Until all you smart guys realize we need to get as smart as one William Lynch,and teach in our Churches and forum’s like yours the destruction of his teachings..Lynch explain if his methods wer followed it would destroy our race for 300 years if not for a lifetime…William Lynch teachings are the issue not Lil’Wayne or BET…We have to reprogram our race and the only wat to do that is to stay on the William Lynch topic and drill it and drill it and drill it in some more.Lil’Wayne and most of these guys don’t even know who William Lynvh was and that’s what’s tradgic.Our religious leaders are to blame for not teaching  why we hate each other so much…It’s pretty simple..Smarter not harder!!Please develope ways to encoporate these teachings and with the right energy and effort you will begin to see a change…I know once i exposed these teachings to the young blackmen i mentor there whole attitude changes.Get on board!

    • SapphiresMomma

      Paige Eldridge,

      It is hurtful to read any comments that push the WILLIE LYNCH LIE, and speak of it as if it was truth!
       
      Please STOP, and do your research and you will see that many of “us” teach this lie without ever THINKING in the first place!
       
      We go along with the foolishness of a made up white man like it is truth.
       
      Black folks, do the research and STOP pushing this fictitious story, of  this fictitious white man to your children!  I guess you want WILLIE LYNCH to have power over your children as well, huh?
       
      Education is the key to freedom!

    • Listeningto

      I’m sorry, you sound just as foolish as Wiz Khalifa saying we don’t need to learn big words.  That’s the sad part, he has so many followers.  If they follow what he talks about in his lyrics, then that goes to show why blacks have the highest poverty and prison rate in America.  Willie Lynch is not the only ones to blame but the uneducated fool as well. Instead of becoming educated himself, he knocks those that are educated while pointing the finger at everybody else as to why he is not. The wide path is full of fools.  The narrow path is full of survivors.

    • Listeningto

      I’m sorry, you sound just as foolish as Wiz Khalifa saying we don’t need to learn big words.  That’s the sad part, he has so many followers.  If they follow what he talks about in his lyrics, then that goes to show why blacks have the highest poverty and prison rate in America.  Willie Lynch is not the only ones to blame but the uneducated fool as well. Instead of becoming educated himself, he knocks those that are educated while pointing the finger at everybody else as to why he is not. The wide path is full of fools.  The narrow path is full of survivors.

  • http://www.Shaskespeareguirand.com Shakespeare

    Dr Boyce! Brother Boyce! i admire your courage to write and develop that subject…I have a lot of admiration for the Black American intellectual…even thought their thoughts and great moral values they represent for this contry is not taken in consideration by the actual society…but intellectual as you and so many others who commit themself to be the voice..the light for the futur generation of American period!…as you said BET is leading by a group of African American who’s so eager to known fame and fortune!..ha ha while the white supremacy are satisfy their taste…let them be their own victim from this Holocaust!…your thought,,your courage…your part as a great American Citizen! should be awarded!…ayibobo!

  • http://www.facebook.com/pages/OOMGO/105306552834498 OOMGO

    Guess who’s not coming to dinner!!!

    WhiteHusbandBlackWife…you sound like someone who sits around the table and says..”I have a black wife so I know the black community.” I’m sure you have A LOT of Black friends TOO!!! Frankly, based on your comments it’s clear you understand VERY LITTLE about the day in the life of a black man AT ALL.

    Keep your stats for yourself, no one really cares about them…what we do care about is OUR LIVES AND OUR PERSONAL STRUGGLE…if you think that all black men have to do is be like you -then your more delusional than I thought. Yes we as black men have to do more for ourselves, our wives(children’s mother) and our children…I would say that it has been “systemic inferiority brainwashing” that has put US as a community in this position and it will TAKE the “systemic reprogramming” of positive images to get US out of this WHIRLWIND of problems.

    Lastly, Lil Wayne has mental problems and some of us are his patients and hooked on the same ills that he has. But lets not blame the SICK MINDED lets look at the root cause of the addiction and I’m sure if we look in the mirror hard enough we will see YOU BEHIND IT POINTED FINGERS!!!

  • Towan_53

    This takes me back to Amos and Andy when that show was picketed and thus went off the air , it put black people out of work. I happened to enjoy the Bet Awards there was a diverse population and age group. Dr Boyce I respect your opinion however you are barking up the wrong tree on this issue. I believe this is a thinly veiled dagger in Lil Wayne’s back and you are willing to take a whole network down to accomplish your mission. Do you know how many channels there are? I like having options and if I don’t like whats on I simply change the channel. Please stick to sports or finances where you can be objective. This article is so beneath you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/OOMGO/105306552834498 OOMGO

      I do not want to speak for Dr.Boyce who can speak for himself…I’m sure, that said…your comment Towan_53 about changing the channel is an idiotic one and proves that you have no clue as to the real issue here.

      Let me speak for myself here…the similarities with BET, Lil Wayne and the KKK are obvious to the educated(school and or life experience)and well informed Black Woman/Man….have you ever heard the term “Neo-coon”

      Dr.Boyce if your reading this thank you for sharing your insight and I appreciate your HONESTY, as always!!!

    • Listeningto

      Yeah and if one of her gangster thugs attacks her like they did Rosa Parks during the crack era, I guess that wouldn’t affect her either. What the ignorant does affects our whole community. We have to live among them. We could have so much more than a few cable channels if we grow up.  I don’t recall Amos and Andy talking about women and kids the way Lil Wayne does.  So I heard, because I don’t even listen to him. Personally I think he’s whack. I listen to real hip hop to the fullest. You are what you eat.  If your spirit can be fed by those types of lyrics, then that says a whole lot about you as a person.

  • Brian

    I thought it was a decent article until the end when you take a gratutious shot at the Tea Party. You lump the Republicans and Tea Partiers in with the Klan? First, you need to pick up a history book. The Klan was the armed wing of the Democrat Party. The same party that fought tooth and nail against the Civil Rights movement only 40 years ago. Perhaps if the “black community” (as if it’s one monolithic group) were to subscribe to some of the more conservative principals of self reliance and responsibility, you wouldn’t have to write this type of article. Let me assure you that black Americans biggest enemy is not the Klan, Lil Wayne or Republicans. It’s racial aggitators that suggest that everything that happens within that community is still caused by external forces. Sounds like a 10 year olds arguement.

    • Anonymous

      Preach!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just said similar comments hoping Dr Boyce will respond!

    • Listeningto

      Sounds like a new argument.  Have you been on change.org People within the African American community are still serving unjust sentences?  Political prisoners have yet to be freed.  This is something that the republicans and tea party simply chose to ignore.  If you are saying this is a ten year old argument then you have much to learn about your own history.  There are people out there that work hard to change this corrupt system that in your eyes is probably consequences of our own failures.  You have to do more than just read your history book.  Just like the Bible you have to understand it as well.  There are a lot of black responsible people out there that don’t support the tea party or republicans because of their bias opinions and uncompassionate heart.

    • Listeningto

      Sounds like a new argument.  Have you been on change.org People within the African American community are still serving unjust sentences?  Political prisoners have yet to be freed.  This is something that the republicans and tea party simply chose to ignore.  If you are saying this is a ten year old argument then you have much to learn about your own history.  There are people out there that work hard to change this corrupt system that in your eyes is probably consequences of our own failures.  You have to do more than just read your history book.  Just like the Bible you have to understand it as well.  There are a lot of black responsible people out there that don’t support the tea party or republicans because of their bias opinions and uncompassionate heart.

  • Dwayne Collins aka Olafemi

    I think that successful Black people always need somebody to blame for poor condition that Black minds take on. You have a successful Black professor talking down to other Black people trying to make a living. I think that we have to make the best of what we have to assure a life for ourselves. 

    I have been without a job and have been lacking in support from these successful Black civil rights activist since 1983. Now who should I blame? Well I blame all those Black people who have been able to become successful from the blood of all those who marched and died and were placed in jail so that I could enjoy better job opportunities, better housing and better education. These people look down on the ways that we are forced to live after they refuse to live in our communities, refuse to use their success to benefit other Black people who strive to be better and they refuse to solve the problem that was created by a program that matches Blacks people against Black people.

    Now you want to criticize people who created to become a success from what was left of a life for them to live. The successful Black people who left Black communities defenseless are the ones to blame. Just think of those who are now millionaires who had no chances before civil rights became effective. Just think of what could have been done if successful Black people hadn’t looked upon other Black people suffering and turned their backs or would rather placed their hard earned monies back in the hands of our white oppressors. Just think if the success of Black people would have reached down in their pockets and gave back to those poor Black people who gave their last to support them in their success.

    Lil Wayne and all those other successful professors, entrepreneurs, and any other civil rights leaders are to blame for the downfall of the Black people who are now colorless or raceless or have no ethnicity. We can’t even find a cultural background that can suit us, all we know is that we were once slaves or does that still take affect?

    Dwayne Collins aka Olafemi   

  • Patricia Young

    I am a mother of two college Grads one male one female, I let them listen to whatever music they liked, it had not adverse affects on the kids.  Kids do what their parents teach them to do, to value what we value.  Turn off the tv and the music and have a talk with your children.  Kids are people that need to be listen to and respected. If you only needed God this would be done but there is a human factor that has to be addressed.  Kids of color are experiencing 40% unemployment, Black men and women 17% unemployment.  Lil Wayne is nothing.  A job and a career and education should be the focus of the Black community I work hard daily to dismantle racism be it Cultural, Structural or Institutional these are the real problems in our community along with internalized racial oppression.  Since people of  Color are viewed as a group and white folks as indivduals they do not carry the burden of the community.  Be the change you want to see in the world.. Ghundi 

  • Kbgetitdone

    WE AS A PEOPLE HAVE LEFT GOD OUT OF THE EQUATION.  HE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ANY RAP STAR OR MEDIA MOGUL!!  WE USED TO KNOW THIS AND WAS TAUGHT IT BEFORE WE COULD TALK.  WE SAW MOTHERS AND FATHERS ON THEIR KNEES, BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS, WORKING AND SAVING HARD AND PUTTING THEIR CHILDREN BEFORE ANYONE OR ANYTHING ELSE.  NOW WE THINK WE DON’T NEED GOD – HE IS JUST FOR OLD PEOPLE. WRONG! WE HAVE BECOME LIKE THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, GOING AROUND THE SAME STUPID WILDERNESS (MORE THAN 40 YEARS NOW).  OUR ANCESTORS ARE WEEPING OVER ALL OF THE BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS THEY SHED TO LEAD US OUT. WE’VE WASTED ALL OF THEIR PAIN AND SUFFERING BECAUSE WE THINK WE’RE FREE!  DR. BOYCE IS RIGHT ON POINT, WE’RE NOW OUR OWN WORSE ENEMIES.  TAKING GOD’S GRACE AND TRAMPLING IT UNDER OUT FEET FOR THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR.  THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE AND THE HEART OF THE MATTER.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O4RPCOM5PO7PUDENF5ISJDZC64 pamela

    Didn’t watch the BET awards but… however I lament for my people. It is said “My people die from lack of Knowledge” (Wisdom”) what you have written about the outcome of the event and the praises to a “product of a curse” needs to be known. His time is short… however, you are in power to destory him with just the words that you have written to us who do not hear the words of evil feeding our youth. Through a connection with He who is in control this too shall pass. I thank you for sharing.

  • BlackWifeandBlackHusband

    There are a lot of black men that take care of their responsibility.  Black men have grown a whole lot since the 80′ and 90’s.  When you have buffoonish rappers rapping about things we’ve overcome that makes us look really bad.  Lil Wayne is very uneducated and can be used as a tool to keep the black community down.  The opposite race learns mostly everything about us on television.  If lil Wayne is rapping to lyrics that disrespect all women, while his kids are dancing on the stage, that’s says a lot about his character and those that support him. He gives the opposite race the impression that we are all like that when we are not.  But when you have a bunch of black people supporting his music it shows differently. Mostly every woman today that lives in my black neighborhood has the father of their kids within their home. This was very different then when I grew up.  Almost every home including mine did not have a father.  Many of them grew up and made something out of themselves despite their circumstances.  I didn’t have a father in the household, but I had a very good mom that did not play.  That alone can make a big difference. You are right; Wayne does have the support of white America.  I mean who is he marketing to anyway? Things that make you go hmmm.  If a rapper can make a bunch of young men walk around in extremely tight jeans hanging from their behind looking a hot mess, then getting them to be rude and disrespectful to women wouldn’t even be a challenge.  As of always, black people do take pride in the way they dress. Just the mere fact that he threatens the lives of women and children tells me clearly that he is nothing but a coward and not real man.  It’s best he markets it in the white neighborhoods because my kids will not be listening to any mess like that.  I listen to real hip hop music.  My kids listen to what I listen to.  We have the final say on that in my house.  I don’t fall into the traps of, “they are just kids” because one little mistake can cost their whole life. The prison terms for young black men are lengthy and I can’t even protect them once they are caught up in that systems.  You should do yourself a favor if you and your black wife have kids.  Turn off the radio because if your kids get caught out there in some mess, then you must know that they are automatically black and will be sentenced just like any other black man.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T563IRI2GEXXKTAEB52VRCJ6HE Lavender Times

    I think it was Chris Rock who said “like an uncle who sent you to college but also molested you”.  Lil Wayne is part of us but don’t love us.

  • C.Warren

    The problems facing Black America are multi-faceted and they are entrenched in a history of neglect, racism, prejudice, and a very public, mainstream propagandizing of Black as inferior.  Many Black youth fall victim to the “my only way out is becoming an Entertainer/Athlete” syndrome because they just don’t have ENOUGH models of people who look like them advocating for them and demonstrating the discipline to abstain from poisonous influences.  The mainstream has manufactured fantasy as a reality and capitalized on the trauma of communities who’ve been disenfranchised for generations!  We need more scholars and professional Black folk being public and identifying the issues and not as Dr. Boyce said, “looking the other way”.  Ultimately though, these artists need to take back ownership of their gift and their artistry.  It is my personal believe that they will be held accountable by God, but beyond that, WE have to hold them accountable and use our influence to bring awareness to an issue that is far reaching and more complex than we understand.  There is no short-lived, one word answer that will serve as a panacea to the wide-spread destruction being caused by the music industry, but if we pay attention to how our tolerance for the music we listen to has changed, you notice a positive correlation to the decline of moral values, the Black family, and the deterioration of the Black community at-large. 

  • Kevaowens

    if I as a mom, allow my kids to watch the BET Awards, I am the blame, if I as a mom, allow my son to walk around sagging and don’t buy him a belt or surround him with positive male influences (THEY DO EXIST) its my fault not BET’s, matter of fact if I subscribe to the station and/or don’t use parental controls on my computer/television it is my fault…where is the personal accountability and responsibility?

  • Rodney Derrick

    I simply don’t see the benefits of this kind of music, especially when it comes to African American youth. Our homes are not only broken, but broken into tiny pieces; therefore, I doubt too many parents will be able to protect their children from this kind of music.
    A little over a month ago, two Oklahoma City African American men shot a
    deputy in the head, robbed him, and left him for dead. This culture of
    violence has to stop, and I think it starts with our music. 

  • Anonymous

    Well written.  Thank you.  I hope your title cause many to stop and read your post.  This should alarm all blacks concerned with our youth and our community our future, really.  I’m a teacher and I see our young people especially our young men willing to fail.  We are our own worse enemies. It’s just so sad.  Unfortunately there is much money to be made and those making it, don’t care about the ramifications of what they say, do and promote.

  • Sherry

    I agree with WhiteHusbandBlackWife!!!!  Why do we ALWAYS put the blame on someone else.  Take some responsibility for your own actions.

    • Hotdog090

      You are a sad person. You do not realize the reality of our environment. If you could possibly comprehend the actuality of the terrible condition of our living here in the US maybe you could one day comprehend the causes of ills. You are a sorry case…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/meetdc Derrick Palmore

    You know whats Hilarious, It’s apparent that Jim Crowe has evolved and grown to a systemic problem. A house divided cannot stand. Rappers are reporters of a wider problem. I myself being an artist believe that we ought to be more responsible vocally. Our own entertainment is not our own. It is tainted and has been hijacked by people with an agenda. The monster is more than one sole topic. In this post I have seen the fruition of what the problem is. White man calls black man clown, no black woman comes to black mans aide. Black man calls white man racist names (devoiding his argument).

     White man black wife, you are wrong. You assume that single parent homes are all women when they are not. 2. You hold your nose in the air acting as if the solution to the problem is simple. However (not you) but your people have been families since before America was formed. We started late, then were ripped apart by your people. We became free and began to band together, that’s when our Government poisoned our community, assassinated our leaders and began a more covert plan to destroy us.

     You made having a man null and void with welfare and the legislation that was passed to set traps for us. Black men need to step up no doubt. But lets talk about how your people give our women a blueprint through religion and moral basis of what their spouses ought to look and act like. All the while the laws and socio-economic structure is in place to produce the opposite result. How often do blacks (men and women both) go at eachother all the while smiling in the face of whites. We still act as if their our masters while hating ourselves. White man black wife, we call people “acting white” because we have been programmed since the “house negro”(-being nice) phenomenon that anything that resembles white is bad. When it is not, but that is what centuries of programming through media, and social bias’ have taught us. 

    In my opinion black men and women need to be honest with ourselves and admit the animosity we have toward one another rather valid or not. My story is not told in the media however my cousins is. My story is that of a kid at 15 who had kids early, now married to my childrens mother and have been together since kids. The story of my convicted felon cousin is told more often than not. Coming from the streets I know that white people use a ton of drugs. They aren’t put in the spotlight. What’s reported is what the agenda calls for. Barack Obama and his wife are examples. Their love is on display and shortly afterward BET and other networks have specials on being single and black in America and how there arent enough men….. Really? Noone noticed that huh? Wake Up it’s bigger than Wayne, Jay-Z and any other artist. It’s systemic programming that we are infected with that sets us against eachother. 

    • Cooldreamz

      You are truly a great man to be able to explain that so well, my husband and I say speak of the same things in discussions. I was born in bedsty, Brooklyn in the hood, my mother was a single parent on crack so when when she wanted to get clean we moved. I was only in the 3rd grade we moved to a town with all whites not for any particular reason accept thats where her rehab and social worker placed her. I lived the rest of my teen years there, when we first arrived I felt like I was on another planet but after awhile I got use to it. When I was in junior high and learned about slavery I hadn’t really ever heard about it, that was in the 1980’s. I felt so hurt and betrayed, although my mother was single and never me see my father …he’d mail me and my sisters Harriet Tubman comic books but I thought they were boring and never read it now looking back that was a great thing he tried to do and he is 100% involved in my life now. But that made me realize as an adult black children in my situation actually need extra counseling when they are learning about slavery I was told by a male white teacher, I was the only black student in the class and because I’m light skinned he put me on the spot and said ” Many slave owners raped their female slaves,” Then he looks at me “Your ancestors were probably one of the slaves I’m talking about otherwise you’d be as dark as your African ancestors (my first time ever hearing this I have a fraternal twin who is dark skinned) then all the students look at me I remeber feeling more anger then I’d ever felt in my life (I was only 12) and my mother wasn’t the kind of black lady that was all hugs and kisses she never even stressed the importance of getting good grades so I couldn’t talk to any one about these feelings of betrayal. I hated being in America but I had a lot of libraries in my town and I went there got books and learned as much about it as I could, there are stories that make my kids cry when I read them but it needs to be discussed with kids so they can try to grasp the cruel torture we endured and it was hard for me to separate the white people around me from their evil ancestors.
      But still had no one to talk with about it I damn sure wasn’t talking to the white counselors at school and no mom around she actually became a successful drug dealer and she is gay -thats a typical African American household.  They now are too programed into believing selling drugs is the only way because like you said    ” Coming from the streets I know that white people use a ton of drugs.” my mother had the same customers for 13 years and they were all white.
      It doesn’t matter if theirs a father or mother in the household if that African American child one day sees our world for what it is and says those words you wrote they are free from the mental chains and the more that happens the better our lives as a race of people will become. My husbands mother was a on dope all his life and she still is, in the same hood where both my cousins were gunned down and he is a great husband and father ( he never knew his father) he played football and bonded with his coach, he’s always listened to gansta rap thats really not going to stop our peoples advancement, it’s when we know the truth of whats been done to us and work against it.

      A lot of black parents weren’t into teaching their kids about slavery and the importance of education but more are now and knowledge is at everyones fingertips, unlike in my day. I’m excited for the next generations because it will spread more truth even our brothers that are locked up are seeking knowledge and coming home wiser men. …nice talking to ya !

  • Anonymous

    I am thrilled to read this article, in particular because it was penned by a black man.  Black women are often dismissed as whiners and complainers when we chide black men about about irresponsible behavior, and black men (Bill Cosby, Barack Obama, e.g.) are labeled as sellouts when they try to hold black men accountable for their destructive behavior.  Unfortunatey, the people who most need to heed Dr. Watkins’ (and Dr. Cosby’s and Pres. Obama’s) words are not reading this article. 

  • Kingtroyboy

    POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK.  How can you compare BET with the KKK and criticize them for promoting the negative messages in Hip Hop, when you yourself purchase the music.  You are worse than BET in my opinion.  The only reason Lil Wayne is even allowed to be on such a grand stage is because people like YOU BUY HIS MUSIC.  You mentioned capitalism several times, but do you not understand capitalism?  The consumer drives the market.  If there is no demand for Lil Wayne then there will be no supply of Lil Wayne.

  • http://www.facebook.com/twyche Terrill Wyche

    @WhiteHusbandandBlackWife:disqus:
    White Americans are the ones who created this society and all of its dysfunction in general, particularly racism. Whites who watch BET are enjoying the fruits of their ancestors manipulations.

  • Jhall427

    Well said, well said!

    We,Black people in America, lead the world in self-imposed genocide!

    Looks like the NAACP is also joing the ranks of honoring “gansta rappers” as well.

    So, when several of our so-called Black society institutions will not step-up responsibly in the positive role model issue, then what should/can we do at the grass roots level?

  • Jakada

    Jakada Zo: 

          Greetings to my “Kind”, as I pray for my “People”. Surely in the days to come we will be less concerned about the entertainment world, and more concerned about the survival world. All great societies go through this form of idle worship. Lets not be so critical, because sometimes the court jesters show us how not to be. In the words of Tupac: Only God can judge us.  Rise above in pity the folks who don’t know what time it is. All of us are not going to make it, God willing an the creek don’t rise, the truly talented tenth with have the wisdom, knowledge and understanding to forge a new race from the mis-guided aches of the old. Peace and light.

    Jakada, The Transient Foreigner….

  • Billyrayholloway2000

    Until BET change, my grandkids is not allowed to watch it while visiting.

  • http://profiles.google.com/mkhrub Makheru Bradley

    Lil Wayne is a terrorist.

    Every system and
    institution of oppression maintained by terrorism has several interlocking
    mechanisms.  Lil Wayne, a real life
    Sambo/Quimbo, with his lyrical weapons of mass destruction, is one of the
    terrorists who helps to maintain the mental slavery of far too many Afrikan
    people. Mental slavery is invisible violence with physical manifestations. 

    We tolerate terrorists who actually kill children, and terrorists who threaten to kill children.

    “Blessed are they who dash your baby’s brains against a rock.”  Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s  explanation of Psalm 137:9 is applicable to Lil Wayne and his legion of fans.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ

    Frederick Douglass said
    that the “limits of tyrants are proscribed by the endurance of those whom they
    oppress.”  At what point does our
    endurance of this corporate tyranny (Universal Music Group, Clear Channel
    Communications, Black Enslavement Television/Viacom, etc.) expire?

     

  • AnnoyedAmerican

    Stop trying to find a scapegoat and come up with a real solution if you really give a damn about Black America.

  • Terri

    Dr Boyce:
    I am concerned that it took you so long to recognize the cancer. I am appalled at your comment: “It might be almost feasible to overlook the “kill little babies comment” were it not for the innocent three-year old boy who was shot in the head by a 21-year old black male in my hometown just a couple of weeks ago – these atrocities are all too common in countless neighborhoods across America.”  I don’t think I read it out of context. The idea of tolerating ANY part of his rantings really speaks to how pervasive destroying our community by our self loathing, self hate, rude behavior continues in the lyrics. 

    Please add some balance by celebrating and showcasing artists such as Anthony Hamilton, Jill Scott, Kelly Price, Elizabeth Withers, Musicsoulchild, Kem, Leela James, and others who believe in the purity of soul music. 

    Write about folks who are in the trenches trying to make a difference. 

    Give us multiple perspectives.  If folks find better things to do with their time, they won’t watch BET… maybe they will start up their own media outlet with positive results.

    Terri

  • Terri

    Dr Boyce:
    I am concerned that it took you so long to recognize the cancer. I am appalled at your comment: “It might be almost feasible to overlook the “kill little babies comment” were it not for the innocent three-year old boy who was shot in the head by a 21-year old black male in my hometown just a couple of weeks ago – these atrocities are all too common in countless neighborhoods across America.”  I don’t think I read it out of context. The idea of tolerating ANY part of his rantings really speaks to how pervasive destroying our community by our self loathing, self hate, rude behavior continues in the lyrics. 

    Please add some balance by celebrating and showcasing artists such as Anthony Hamilton, Jill Scott, Kelly Price, Elizabeth Withers, Musicsoulchild, Kem, Leela James, and others who believe in the purity of soul music. 

    Write about folks who are in the trenches trying to make a difference. 

    Give us multiple perspectives.  If folks find better things to do with their time, they won’t watch BET… maybe they will start up their own media outlet with positive results.

    Terri

  • http://www.facebook.com/ali.lee1 Steve Ali Lee

    I think KKK is a bit strong….I think the bigger issue in our communities is the lack of identity with who we really are..There was a time that our communities were about building leaders however, With more men of color behind bars or dead we must fix the basic problem of self worth with our men first so that  when these young men and women go to create they know that it is unacceptable in our communities to make music this way. I do not think BET is the new KKK. Viacom is a huge Company which sells entertainment as a product. Unfortunately, we gave power to Lil’ Wayne and his music, remember if we do not make it HOT the white community does not buy his stuff . Music, Hip-Hop music has been pimped by not only our own but by others..anytime you pay attention to just the profits the art dies…Hip-Hop the kind I grew up loving is now not mainstream..the Hip-Hop that is mainstream is formulated to extract profits not art form..just as TV has reality stars..Hip-Hop has the poster boys and girls..The window of opportunity for most artist now is short so to maximize this gimmick artist place higher than true musicians.

  • http://www.facebook.com/larrymak1 Larry McKinzie

    Lil’ Wayne is the new House Ni66a like the many entertainers and sports figures. I know the some of the articles will make him more sensitive to his products The question is “Who is the person making a conscious effort to talk to Lil’ Wayne into trying to save his soul and/or the soul of his people.”

  • Vlfuller2004

    I have to say that I agree wholeheartedly. Ever since the Notorious B.I.G., I have secretly bopped my head to the infectious rhythms of hip hop music while steadfastly refusing to purchase most of the albums due to their violent and misogynistic lyrics.

  • DreddedDeuce

    when it comes right down to it, the simplest thing you can do is change the channel. Nobody is forcing anyone to watch the crap they show us on BET.

  • JazmineLives4God

    AMEN!!! I do not listen to his type of music, and I am glad I am not the only one who thinks of it in this way. Although, 23 years old, I have the wisdom to know better. Thank you for this article, I will be sharing it!

  • Taritari

    Yesssss,

    Our music has to change.  Originally rap music was considered a social change and realization message.

    But it changed to yes sarcastic lyrics but it was seen as comedy and entertainment until it was realized that some were beginning to believe and really live out the lyrics.

    Now we must bring our children back to reality.  Not everyone is strong enough to overlook the dumb stuff and know enough to not believe in it!

    Church music no longer has the flavor it once did to push us to keep the faith in Jesus, God, Allah, Yahweh, Emmanuel etc.  The numbers are down in churchgoers, especially our youth.

    The children are seeing the truth and the lies and have become confused.

    The adults in the past began to use the children to carry out drug deals knowing that the child would get a lighter sentence until they began to became the new younger dealers.

    We must look back deeply into the past and see our history e.g. when and how did prostitution begin, the rapes during slavery, the breeding and the trading or selling of our children, not just for blacks or Africans but other cultures as well.

    Revisit the past and current paths of violence, not only was it happening for the African Americans but look at the wars of the past and current.  The Greek, Armenians, Europe, Viet Nam, Korea, Africa, United States etc.

    Prior to a time just after slavery, African Americans could not afford drugs, did they have the interest in record numbers as they do today.  Someone dreamed up the idea to make it affordable and slowly it crept into their lives, thus destroying the communities slowly.

    Many African American musicians or entertainers, boxers etc., began to experiment with drugs and later became addicted to the point of ruining their careers!

    Until we stop lying to ourselves and our children, we are going to continue to see the self destructive path continuing.  We must re-examine ourselves not on a dedicated day, once every year but every day!

    Maybe there will be a new generation of children, youth, adults who can bring about change but they must revisit the history of our past failures, provoked and adopted.

    Spiritual cleansing and prayer to do and do better by actions is going to save us hopefully.

    We must stop selling ourselves with cheap entertainment for money and publicity that is going to hurt us.

    Other cultures need to learn from each others’ pain and move forward to become one and that shall be oneness leading to the supreme spiritual being!

    We must learn to forgive and move on, not forget but forgive, live and march forward!

    I had a chance to see some of the Jim Crow papers, why is it still a big secret to many?

  • Uziel777

    If you really would like to understand the significance as to why and how detrimental S.H.I.T. – Hop is please visit anyone of these sites. Thank you and YWHY Bless.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muYaBj_70QE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc7lfa8pkUw&feature=channel_video_title

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEkANn1IBaQ

  • Luke

    I have to agree with Walter E. Williams in regards to what’s really happening. It’s not just the corporations; it’s the mega corporations in conjunction with the government. Crony capitalism – not true capitalism. Welfare doesn’t help either. Rather than liberating people from poverty, it keeps them in it.

    ‘Government poverty programs hurt black Americans?’
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdmqtpvleko

  • YS

    I am concerned with the representation of young black artists on the BET Music Awards. What is going on with that program now – what has happened to tasteful and respectful performances? This is so contradictory to the image they want to portray! How can they talk about caring for and offering uplifting comments and inspiration for young people when they allow young males and females to have distasteful lyrics and gyrate all over the stage. Surely there can be some parameters set for what is acceptable to air – regardless of the songs the artists WANT to perform! These programs target young people, but instill the WRONG values in them with most of the songs they perform. The songs and antics only tell the young people that it’s OK to say and do raunchy and vulgar performances. I just wonder what the other artists (like Patti LaBelle and Gladys Knight) REALLY think as they sit in the audience and listen to that mess!!This is SO sad!! Someone needs to rethink this quickly!!

  • Mrlank

    Nothing is said here about Cris Brown winniing his share of BET awards after viciously beating the s–t ot of Rihanna. Why ?

  • ALICIA BANKS

    soul music is dead because most have lost their souls

    lil wayne and hobama are dual symptoms of our collectively lost souls…

    shame!!!

    http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/732765426/where-is-the-rebel-music—pimping-past-the-revolution/

    http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/751600565/a-third-open-letter-to-that-minstrel-tom-joyner-about-that-dick-hobama/

  • Rrchicagojazz

    I REFUSE TO COMMENT ON LIL W CAUSE I DON”T  NEVER LISTEN TO THAT KIND OF TRASH ANYWAY.AS I SAID BEFORE I WAS THE 1ST TRUMPET PLAYER WITH THE EMOTION,TYRONE DAVIS,JACLIE WILSON AND HAVE PLAYED WITH AL GREENE.WHAT MAKES ME ANGRY IS FOR SOME WHITE CRACKER TO COME ON HERE AND TRY TO DOWN THE BLACK MAN AFTER HIS PEOPLE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN THERE POWER TO HURT BLACK PEOPLE.BELOW IS ANOTHER BOOK FOR BLACKS THAT DON’T KNOW THERE HISTORY TO READ. Medical ApartheidFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaMedical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present is a 2007 book by Harriet A. Washington. It is a history of medical experimentation on African Americans. From the era of slavery to the present day, this book presents the first full account of black America’s mistreatment as unwitting subjects of medical experimentation.[1][2]Medical Apartheid traces the convoluted history of medical experimentation on Black Americans in the USA since the middle of the eighteenth century. Harriet Washington argues that “diverse forms of racial discrimination have shaped both the relationship between white physicians and black patients and the attitude of the latter towards modern medicine in general”.[3]The book is divided into three parts: the first is about the cultural memory of medical experimentation; the second examines recent cases of medical abuse and research; while the last addresses the complex relationship between racism and medicine. Some topics discussed are well-known, such as the ‘Tuskegee Syphilis Study’ (1932–72), in which African Americans suffering from the disease were prevented from receiving the necessary medication by the US Public Health Service so that the evolution of the disease could be observed, but other episodes are less well-known to the general public.[3] The book also mentions cases of Medical Experimentation in Africa and their links to African-American cases.Medical Apartheid won the 2007 National Book Critics Circle Award for Nonfiction. Harriet Washington has been a fellow in ethics at theHarvard Medical School, a fellow at the Harvard School of Public Health, and a senior research scholar at the National Center for Bioethics atTuskegee University.[4]

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad I recorded the BET Awards Show, only half of it was worth watching. It’s was sad and frightening to see the likes of Lil Wayne being rewarded, rich, famous and popular for all the wrong reasons, is not rewardable criteria.  The majority of our African American youth are so lost… The African American community needs many more positive male & female role models and mentors,  Steve Harvey’s program of mentoring young men, should be duplicated throughout the United States, there needs to be young women’s camps too.  The reasons for the decline of our society is so complex, but we’ve got to start somewhere…  Get rid of award shows that glorify socially unacceptable individuals that lead the youth down a path of destruction. BET, find the honorable, hardworking young men and women in our communities who have succeed despite hardship and adversity and award them…

  • Eddie

    Just don’t watch Bridezillas. Your head will explode.

  • Maalak

    I agree with Dr. B, though not all the Hip Hoppers are bad and there and many aspects to this problem.  Black people angry and hurt at seeing our actors n entertainers being used as modern day pied pipers.  No more flute but “funk” this time!  Some whites trying to understand and don’t, while others could give a !@#!  So for the ones trying to understand just imagine………. young whites searching for identity, being paid hundreds of  thousands and millions of dollars to say things that have rhythm and sounds like:

    Walking thru da hood
    like a mad peckerwood
    one hand on my d***
    the otha on the trigga
    gittin redy ta  smoke that white nigger
    bangin the preachers daughter like a trailer trash ho
    n all she can do is open wide n holla for mo
    soundin like momma waiting her turn next door
    Rev’s out preaching but ahm doing da real teaching
    cause ahm a cold white niggah  wit my hand on da triggah
    n everywhere I look is big white niggah booties,  white niggah booties
    damn she gotta lotta donkey for a honky 
    silly peckerwood running thru the hood blockin my big booty view
    don’t know it but his white ass is too thru
    one hand on my d*** the otha on tha trigga
    n everybody bout to  kno……Ahm a cold White Nigga, etc., etc., etc.,

  • Maalak

    imagine………. young whites searching for identity, being paid hundreds of  thousands and millions of dollars to say things that have rhythm and sounds like:Ahm walking thru da hoodlike a mad peckerwoodone hand on my d***the otha on the triggagittin redy ta  smoke that white niggerbangin the preachers daughter like a trailer trash hon all she can do is open wide n holla for mowhile her  momma waiting her turn next doorRev’s out preaching but ahm doing da real teachingcause ahm a cold white niggah  wit my hand on da triggahn everywhere I look is big white niggah booties,  white niggah booties
    Feel my manhood gittin bigga hand tightenin on the trigga
    damn she gotta lotta donkey for a honky silly peckerwood running thru the hood blockin my big booty viewdon’t know it but his white ass is too thruone hand on my d*** the otha on tha triggan everybody bout to  kno……  that I smoked that peckerwood
    like a White Nigga should            
    N ahm uh a cold White Nigga,
    a cold White Nigga,    ,etc., etc., etc.,

  • Maalak

    First time I posted this article U ran it to the bottom of the list in 2-3 minutes, behind things written 6 and 7 days ago.  I post again to see what happens and U run the lyrics and words together to make sure folks can’t read it or will ignore thinking some
    no spelling idiot is tying up the board.  Who are U??   Never mind.  I’m finished and reccommend others cut U loose also…..   Adios!

  • Myopinion

    Viacom isn’t controlled by white people, it’s controlled by Jewish people.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe that’s what BET is because it is now owned by a white male.

  • Jovannyespino

    Well… I am from the Dominican Republic….I am  totally agree with all these comments did it by Dr. Boyce, but sometimes I believe (although that is not true) that the musicians (singers) forget that children are listening and that these childrens learn their songs much before going to school. Nor do they realize that they are penetrating the minds of childrens and youngs people who are believed invincible and therefore do many of the crazy things they say these lyrics. Particularly destructive rather not hear music, or sexist, or who insist on violence, no use of drugs, or anything that ultimately undermines the individual, family and society in general. Many times when we think we are listening a Niñ and learn specifically those things that we hear or say that he sees us doing. I think we can make good music with good lyrics and will be well received.

  • Jovannyespino

    Well… I am from the Dominican Republic….I am  totally agree with all these comments did it by Dr. Boyce, but sometimes I believe (although that is not true) that the musicians (singers) forget that children are listening and that these childrens learn their songs much before going to school. Nor do they realize that they are penetrating the minds of childrens and youngs people who are believed invincible and therefore do many of the crazy things they say these lyrics. Particularly destructive rather not hear music, or sexist, or who insist on violence, no use of drugs, or anything that ultimately undermines the individual, family and society in general. Many times when we think we are listening a Niñ and learn specifically those things that we hear or say that he sees us doing. I think we can make good music with good lyrics and will be well received.

  • Brenda Dcarmen

     I could go on and on about this argument Dr. Boyce has made, as a criminal justice and criminal law major i have convinced myself that hip hop and the gangsta rap culture has definitely affected young black men the most. If youre going to argue that high incarceration rates are caused by lack of parenting, absentee black fathers you have to look at first of all WHY! im sick of peoples steriotypes about black men not being there for their children without thinking about the macro perspective of this.Studies have shown that black men are actually more supportive fathers than white men. As for those that are absent in their childrens life, well they are in prison and why are they in prison? thats up for debate but the hip hop culture has something to do with it.We know that discrimination in america has not ended, in this new era that we call ourselves colorblind, we still incarcerate a disproportionate amount of blacks for the same crimes that whites commit. BET is only re-enforcing the oppression and inequality in our society. The socialization process begins at birth, and if the child’s parents are not there because they are in jail for possession of crack, who is going to be the agent of socialization? and most importantly where is this child going to live? in a middle class suburban neighborhood? i think not. The child is going to be raised in a a very urban and poor area. And will be influenced by peers that live in the same neighborhood and by the media of course. And what will this child end up doing? possibly prostituting or selling drugs. Later go to jail and be labeled as a felon which will be hypothetically marked in permanent marker across his/her forehead. Now who wants to give this person a job when they have to mark the ex felon box? who wants to give them housing? or an education, perhaps financial aid? NOBODY. Now this person has to make a decision on whether they want to be a homeless and starve or survive, what options does this person have other than continue to sell drugs and engage in other criminal behavior? this is why we have such a high recidivism rate, its a piece of shit justice system that is only costing us more money! Its an ongoing process that people do not understand, a domino effect and before you open your mouth about black men being horrible fathers and about America having equal opportunity for all; you need to educate yourself and look at the bigger picture.

  • Bcsupercoop

    Black, white, purple etc. It doesn’t matter the color! Our american children are being used by these so called music companies and they are corrupting their minds with hate and a false vision of how the American dream is obtained. Education, hard work, love of God, country and family will take you to the top. God help our children and this country.
    MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

  • Carvalholisbet

    Wow! How Horroble!! Worste then a horror movie. I think lil wayne should be punish for his actions. I think the should give him the death penalty.