Black Man with Sagging Pants Kicked Off Plane and Arrested, but Man in Panties Allowed to Fly

by Dr. Boyce Watkins.

Just a few days ago, a college football player was booted off a US Airways flight for having sagging pants.  As it turns out, sagging pants is considered to be worse than a man wearing nothing but  a pair of panties.  A US Airways spokesperson confessed as much on Tuesday, as she had to try to explain the inexplicable double-standard.

A photo of the man wearing panties was provided to the San Francisco Chronicle by Jill Tarlow, who was a passenger on the flight.  Tarlow said that quite a few passengers complained, but US Airways employees did nothing.  US Airways spokeswoman Valerie Wunder said that she received the photo of the man in panties before the sagging pants incident, but that the employees were correct to not ask the man to cover himself up.

“We don’t have a dress code policy,” Wunder said. “Obviously, if their private parts are exposed, that’s not appropriate. … So if they’re not exposing their private parts, they’re allowed to fly.”

What’s most interesting and contradictory about Wunder’s statement is that she had nothing to say about the incident involving Deshon Marman, a football player from the University of New Mexico.  Marman had been pulled off a flight to Albuquerque and even arrested after he refused to pull his pants up in response to an employee’s request.  Marman’s attorney says that surveillance video proves that the young man’s skin was not visible.

Marman was taken into police custody when he refused to get up from his seat on the plane.  He was then booked on suspicion of trespassing, battery and resisting arrest.  He is now at risk of having a criminal record for doing something that would have been overlooked if he’d been a white male drag queen wearing panties.

“It just shows the hypocrisy involved,” said Joe O’Sullivan, Marman’s attorney. “They let a drag queen board a flight and welcomed him with open arms. Employees didn’t ask him to cover up. He didn’t have to talk to the pilot. They didn’t try to remove him from the plane – and many people would find his attire repugnant.”

O’Sullivan then said, “A white man is allowed to fly in underwear without question, but my client was asked to pull up his pajama pants because they hung below his waist.”

Note to Deshon Marman:  Your status as a black man in America implies that you do not have access to basic freedoms and liberties that other Americans can enjoy.  In fact, you’re not quite a man….you even get less respect than a drag queen wearing his underwear in public.  This second class citizenship is especially prevalent when dealing with law enforcement and corporate America, where a young black male college student can be quickly criminalized because he refuses to follow the orders of an overzealous and possibly racist flight attendant.  It doesn’t matter if you’re in school creating a better life for yourself – in the eyes of some, you’re simply a thug who hasn’t yet learned his place in society.

Most interesting is that the US Airways crew member insisted upon making Marman get off the plane after the young man had already taken his seat.  If his pants were sagging (I am not a fan of sagging pants, to be honest), the fact that he was already seated strongly suggests that no one would be able to see the back of his pants anyway.  Their decision to push the issue even though Marman was already sitting down, as well as the fact that US Airways (according to their spokesperson) does not enforce a dress code on it’s passengers, makes this a clear case of racial discrimination.

Someone should pay a price for this one.

Dr. Boyce Watkins is a Professor at Syracuse University and founder of the Your Black World Coalition.  To have Dr. Boyce commentary delivered to your email, please click here.

 

 

 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

    This is enough evidence to take to court to get a settlement for Deshon Marman… I find it more offensive to see a man in panties and bra allowed on a flight and US Airways did not find this offensive? If any woman was to decide to travel in her panties and bra, she would not have been allowed to fly, where the hell do they get these people from who makes the decision as to whom is properly attired for flying? Where the hell was airport security and the passenger screeners to allow him to even pass the screening process to get this far into the airport to board a flight?…Deshon showing the top of his drawers is a lot more pleasant that this man sitting next to me in panties and all his male package on display…Imagine this dude getting up to go down the isle with small children on this flight exposed to this sort of perversion, unbelieveable…

    • Anonymous

      Obama’s first move (If he were indeed the powerful president many think he is) should have been a moratorium on racism and the institutionalized discrimination of African-Americans, (‘Blacks’). A cue that he is not working for the people is that he is not doing anything to make our lives safer or better. Everything he’s done on a governmental level proves that he is working exclusively for the Anglo-Elite.

      Our dilemma is that we are dealing with people who have been in the business of pillaging for eons. They know what physical and psychological power is needed to accomplish their goals, and they maintain the power to get it done however they wish. They have destroyed stronger unity than ours. They destroy whole nations now on a daily basis while using our taxes, our social resources, and our youth to do so. We have no proper leadership, unity, education, wealth, or awareness to combat such a formidable group of Anglos and their cohorts.

    • dondudz

      Well Shakka you just went ahead and made the mistake of endorsing discrimination against some but not others. You are a real genius aren’t you?
      You have zero credibility when you take this path.

  • Ebooner

    Listen up……Keep this type of madness up Amerikka and I swear it’s going to be an uprising like never before…. Surely we don’t need this but, what are you (powers-that-be) forcing the people to do….

    • Anonymous

      Know you that the masses in general are not only ignorant but are psychologically manipulated by “the powers that be” and even if we were to have a serious civil outbreak, those elite ‘powers that be’ will still be as powerful, and as wealthy as before but with less people of all colors to deal with. We are turned against each other for many reasons and because we cannot get a-hold of the true culprits of our agony we are forced to focus on the immediate lunatics whom have been easily manipulated, just as we too, are easily manipulated. It will always be a ‘no win’ situation for us all.
      As tragic as the story is we are left to fight it out without a hope or a prayer of winning. Follow history back to see how this all started if you can. Ask yourself exactly why are the Europeans the most powerful and wealthy of our species and try to come of with the correct answer.

      • Anonymous

        Whites are the most powerful and wealthy of our SOCIETY, not of the species. Nature provides equality to the members within a species. Civil society is structured by the members of the species, on the basis of cultural interaction with one another and their territories, in preserving that  equality. The social disparity is due to the violent imposition of inequality by whites against blacks, causing a wound that scabs over in the individual affirmation of inequality, under a scar that holds the collective attitude of racism. The questions are, what anti-bodies can we deploy against the infection, can we close the wound, remove the scar, and prevent another. Our only hope is to stir investment in human equality, and oppose investment  in human inequality, championing the idea that equality benefits all and harms none, granting freedom, prosperity, and happiness in earned and just proportions, under a bond of love that overwhelms our jealousy, lust, greed and hate, which truly have been the “four horesmen of the apocalypse” riding the ranges of the world, from Europe, in the conspiratorial and destructive cause of white supremacy, empowered by treachery and weaponry, since the middle ages. Civilly speaking, this has been no society, but a crime and cover-up in progress. This incident simply highlights that its methods may have changed, but its intents have not.

        • Anonymous

          Beautifully stated sir! Thank you. I only wish that the skeptics whom are predisposed to disagreement, could ‘reboot’, to allow themselves this precise understanding. Thanks again.

          • HipAmerican

            I’m doing what I can to inspire understanding and compassion, the two things most lacking in criminal (harmful to others) pursuits. Of course, this is to counter the manufacture of confusion, numbness, and apathy, from which the four horseman get their feed. Thanks for recognizing. Your post was my inspiration. I’ve been founding a program, called Tragedy’s End, to produce ways to achieve this end. A major aim is to run and elect candidates without funding, on the very inspiration of the people they actively commit to serve, in our representative democracy. Our nation has aa beautiful theoretical foundation, but our practice has been to build downward, rather than upward, or to move away from our stated purpose. I think we need to change direction and step up the pace. The Republican drivers of this hijack use clever means, that the democrats have no response for, missing many opportunities to derail the “loco”-motive, having abandoned all logic for fear, the specialty of the republican kitchen. I’ll be leading this effort with an offer to serve as America’s next elected president, not on a lark, but as I’ve prepared in my duty as a citizen, from my studies in life, ahving appreciatively grown-up, from a boyhood in Washington, D. C. I am pretty much alone in this volunteer effort, as the idea is so foreign to the mainstream of politics and media, yet, it should have been our tradition. A website under the name (without the apostrophe and space), at bravehost.com, has links to many of posts around the web, and more inforrmation at the site. Thanks foryour interest, encouragement, and mostly, the compassion and understanding I found apparent in your post.

          • keepintime

            Finally. I think I’ve found the intelligent home I’ve searched for on the internet. Having just this evening stumbled, quite accidentally, upon this site, I’ll admit I’ve eagerly sought out and absorbed both your words and the words of wizardg.  Useless and frustrating rants and raves can be found most anywhere people blog and comment in cyberspace – such a waste of potential. Insightful wisdom and calm, reasoned, reasonable solutions to humanities self-imposed social dysfunctions, however, seem exceedingly rare and hard to come by. Thank you. I’m reminded again of the sixties – we had such high hopes and dreams for the future…. I really do hope you’re both still here when I check back again – frequently, I’m sure, from now on :)

    • LB

      Whenever uprisings occur, the governments simply send out the troops. In our case, they would declare martial law and the remaining freedoms the ball player and the tranny have are pretty much out of the window. But I do understand your frustration. It seems we should be trying to solve our national debt with the little money our government has left us. Instead, we will be forever locked in litigation over stupid crap like this. I hope and pray we survive through all of this. The real “powers that be” are outside of America and are looking and waiting for us to fall.

      • Anonymous

        @8ad2bb2450b2eb89fff77c5e3696c6d1:disqus  If you find ‘William Cooper’s book “Behold A Pale Horse’. This man describes exactly what the secret societies were planning to do to the ‘American’ people. He wrote in detail how they meant crash this country and steal its wealth. He also foretold his assassination for revealing secret society secrets. He was murdered by government police right after GW Bush took office!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jaime-Pickering/100000725125113 Jaime Pickering

    roflmao. umm maybe just my thinking but…. if the guy in panties was told to put pants on, would he? The football player refused to listen to the flight crew, really had nothing to do with the pants.

    • Anonymous

      The problem is that the crew used their discretion in a discriminatory manner.

      • louise

        Look at the rapper entertainment world, these rappers having their pants hanging down.  This type of entertainment showing young black males in america its okay to dressed this way.  When I heard about the drag queen dressing with barley nothing on the US Airway, it blows my mind.  How anyone can passed this indivdual through, this is double standard and this is discrimination. I will not ride on U.S Airways.

        • DeShae

          I used to favor US Airway, but subsequent to an incident, I no longer. For example, once I purchased a ticket, in a rushed line, and after thoroughly reviewing my ticket, I discovered that the ticket agent who could barely speak English, had misspelled my name. When I went back to have it corrected, I was harassed to no end, rather than the ticket agent  haing admitting to the Airline’s mistake. Although I passed the security check, I was asked to go into a room with a female security guard, as a male security guard said, “This lady passed the security check, so why should she be going back there?” Although he called the supervisor, It was to no avail. In the room, the security guard looked in my bosom, asked me to pull up my dress; then, to pull down the top of my panties, as she looked, in addition to spreading my legs apart and patting me down. I felt so violated!  I was not even wearing saggy pants. I was dressed in a three-piece suit, and had on my fur coat. However, I am African-American! Is US Airline any different than the others? I doubt it! Delta Airline’s ticket agent once asked me when I purchased my ticket, which will it be plastic or paper? I thought that she wanted to know if I were using a credit card or cash. I said that it was plastic, since I was using a credit card. All of a certain, I was asked to stay where I was, to take off my shoes, and not to touch my luggage. Subsequently, I was taken to security, my purse was taken out of my view, and I was taken to another section to be swiped, including my luggages. I was told that to ensure that the plane would land safely in Salt lake City, I could not board the plane. I informed the Airline that I needed to be on that flight, since it was the last flight of the day and I would miss my business appointment. About 15 minutes prior to the departure, I was allowed to board the plane, but my luggage had been torn by security guards, and as they announced for me to board the plane, as I ran to board it, some of my clothes were falling from the luggage, as people watched, as if I were a terrorist!  After I reached my destination, I discovered that significant items were taken from the innermost part of my luggage, including jewelry and money from my purse!

  • Rooseveltt104

    How do the FCC look at interstate discrimination? the 1964 civil right act was clearly
    violated by us air. they should be penalized for such blat in behavior!!

  • Anonymous

     African-Americans should boycott this Airline and any other airline which allow ‘blacks’ to be treated the way most racist police agencies treat us.
     I have seen and experienced this white supremacy hate against blacks for more than five decades. I have read recent books that show proof a blatant abuses here and abroad, by ‘whites’ whom are staunch and belligerent in their bias – denial of any wrongdoings. Most of White America (those who’s skin color is fair) is on a constant media blitz to denigrate, demonize and reduce darker skinned, ‘blacks’ to nothingness.
    What is worse is that they get help from a great number of us who are lost in some strange faze of denial, wealth grab, and psychological turmoil themselves to a point that they exacerbate the problems.
    I can see fifty years from now that blacks will still be under attack and many will have suffered great loss and death, with this still as a serious ongoing problem. That is unless whites haven’t NUKED the whole world, which seems the only way we will ever be free of such human lunacy!

    • guest

      “Most of White America (those who’s skin color is fair) is on a constant
      media blitz to denigrate, demonize and reduce darker skinned, ‘blacks’
      to nothingness.

      What is worse is that they get help from a great
      number of us who are lost in some strange faze of denial, wealth grab,
      and psychological turmoil themselves to a point that they exacerbate the
      problems.”

      -coSign

  • Brook

    This kid needs to sue the crap out of this airline.  I don’t want to ever fly with them again. 

    • Sasa

      Protecting our children is our duty, I will not fly this airline anymore unless and until they correct this double standard and clear this young man completely of all allegations. They should publicly apologise and make restitutions, this is like something out of 1930, where a young black male forgot to lower his eyes when white people spoke.

    • Sasa

      Protecting our children is our duty, I will not fly this airline anymore unless and until they correct this double standard and clear this young man completely of all allegations. They should publicly apologise and make restitutions, this is like something out of 1930, where a young black male forgot to lower his eyes when white people spoke.

  • Kevin T.

    America? Hypocrisy? The same country that has gone all over the world fighting for “Human Rights”, while enslaving a people,  denying these  same American Citizens virtually every right possible. Spreading propaganda that their savages and ugly. Yet this country makes tanniing their skins, puffing up their lips to look like them and imposing their will on tiny countries at gunpoint? WAKE UP, PEOPLE!!! Nothing new.

  • Lynn

    I’m getting ready to fly US Airways..had I read this first, I never would’ve booked a flight with them.  A drag queen in under wear versus sagging pants..please give me a break..neither is acceptable public wear..Is CNN covering this?  If not..let’s make sure they do..keeping it moving.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_73CIKYA25XJQN4I3WN5CX6JTCU LEROY A

    Yes, this worth boycotting US Airways. Make it happen.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_73CIKYA25XJQN4I3WN5CX6JTCU LEROY A

    Stop complaining and start showing we have economic power again. We will not get respect if we do not stand together when we are disrespected. Boycotting is the only way.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_73CIKYA25XJQN4I3WN5CX6JTCU LEROY A

    Like we did with MLK and the buses we need to do with any company that shows us disrespect and it will change.

  • Beverly

    This is just to much. Why would the Airline let this person on the plane when we all can see how he was dress, he should had been charged with indecent exposure. He did not care and obviously the Airline didn’t either and he was happy to pose for the camera. We have to admit there will always be a difference within the races, we can work together, live among each other date and marry but deep to the core there is resentment. No one should have to be class as being less than another person because of race. The young man with the pants incident had issues but this person got away with showing more than the average person wanted to see.

  • Anonymous

    As there are a lot of “responsible” elders in the Black community who frown on and discourage the “sagging” habit, it could be seen that the company was enforcing the dignity of the young man, whereas the “drag queen” had abandoned all pretense of dignity. Drag is considered a show, an expression, while sagging generally sparks confusion and disgust. From my perspective, underwear are not intended for public regard, and these instances do suggest that the black man was victimized. He had a way to easily cover-up, and the white man did not, but the Black was banned and the white was allowed, so this is a case of aggravated racism. I’m suppossing they were on the same flight. The issue is freedom, and it is the tradition of racism that whites are allowed more of it than blacks. Freedom actually is not merely an individual thing, but attaches individuals to a communal existence of all members on an equal par. Violations occur when that equality is violated, as it seems to have been on the plane, and in the proceeding arrest.

    • Anonymous

      Most of the Hip-Hop world and the youth enjoy sagging trousers including the girls. The ‘black’ youth are targeted for all sorts of negative treatment as usual. They will be the ones most likely to be imprisoned and left jobless etc. We hold all of the highest levels of negative treatment and health conditions etc. We can almost bet that any news of an incident by police that involves shooting a suspect will show that suspect as ‘black’, or ‘brown’. They do not generally shoot white men unless they absolutely must.
      The prison system has gone corporate so our children will be prime targets for judicial abuse.
      If the person boarding the plane with the gay outfit on were ‘black’ he would have never been allowed to embark let alone sit down!

  • Gmix101

    Man #@%! US Airways. Their actions fly as blatant and outright discrimination. Goes to show how messed up the Money grubbing Corporations are. Both individuals paid to fly, yet they disregarded the White Males obvious non-conformity to a societal norm. Men where pants unless your Scottish you can get away with a kilt. He even upset numerous passengers. A Black Male college student and Athlete, more than likely wearing Sweats ad most Athletes do when not in uniform or otherwise dressed gets severely punished because a bigoted flight attendent caught a glimpse of his boxers? I would have her job taken away and the airlines operating budget for the next three months if I was in that guys shoes. And obviously someone in TSA made a decision to let both of them fly so US Airways is in error.

  • Student

    LADY GAGA..IS ALLOWED TO FLY…AND PERFORM ON NATIONAL TV…BUT THAT IS NO BIG DEAL….DOUBLE STANDARD ….MAYBE…AND I LIKE LADY GA-GA…I’M JUST SAYING…

  • Greers71

    We shouldn’t complain about how people who show us and tell us everyday that they hate us treat us; especially when we constantly push ourselves on them!
    Instead of reading that article and again saying they wrong, we should use that as a desire energizer to unite and get our own!

    • Altha Cutright

      It’s been done and the White man was there to take it, now what?

    • Anonymous

      @1839df0b0c0ea897a312514593b38d7d:disqus : It appears that they have already thought well ahead of us on that. Unity was destroyed long ago and is easy to keep that way by introducing all sorts of psychological fixes. We are basically left with only our color as a unifying device and that no longer suffices. Plus we have been made so confused and disconnected that we can only stand by and watch as our likenesses are abused in numerous ways. Our leaders cautioned to be careful not to say too much against them and our people caught up in their Euro-religious belief system.
      This kind of fractured unity can also be seen in freshly created prison environments where even Mexican-Americans can be turned against each other.

      IE. In Cali. Northern California Hispanics are easily made to turn on Southern Cali Hispanics. With these kinds of psychological keys at hand our people of white hue are very capable of turning our world upside down. Before we can unify our people we must first make them understand how deep the game played on us goes. We do not listen well.and again our prominent leaders are cautioned. ML King was cautioned and he chose to keep going. This is why we have no proper leadership nor proper unity.

    • Emilee

        Say it “Greers71″ AAAAAMMMIN!

  • Mrscorpiio

    If I said it once I must’ve said this 1000x…we have a black president in the white house because the other black politicians are not doing JACK!!!!. OBAMA needs to address these issues immediately….because its a long time coming…. I repeat……..we need to lobby in having new laws on the books on discrimination. That if anyone, White Corp America especially, Local Government Officials, State or Federal, Private Sectors and the Public at large, is causing any type of oppressional act, discriminatory, institutionalized racism acts, blatant viewable double standard action because of the actions of this white racism country we still live in should be incarcerated/fine in a insurmountable sum. These are the laws that should have been on the books 75 years ago even before affirmative action was thought of. Even the affirmative action laws were meant for white females back in the 70 who were considered 2nd class in the job force and they just threw in the plight of Black America in the mix. This is how racist this country is and these are the measures that we have come to in order to stamp out the injustices. We need to shut down and wipe out the white privilige actions that is festered in this racist country which forces black america to always walk on egg shells. I mean this crap about the airline is just a mere example compared to other discrimation acts that continues to happen. Who ever was responsible needs to be fired and the company should be fined And like someone mentioned we should boycott that airline and others….but its up to BLACK AMERICANS TO stand up as one force like our ancestors have done. You have too many of us looking the other way because you are stuck in that ignorant mental stigma of ” I have mine”. There is more to be said about this but I will stop for now.

  • Arneader

    All I can say is WOW!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Janice-M-Wade/1300036928 Janice M. Wade

    When my son was 14 yrs and getting into trouble in school, I told him over & over, that as a black man he did not have the same rights as white kids.  Not because he was any worse than they were, but because he was not viewed the same way.  I told him this because he was always telling me what he would do if the police tried to accuse him of anything.  Unfortunately he didn’t listen and ended up spending 1 yr in a boy’s school for assault on a girl his age (they were groping & kissing in school).  This was wrong, but as his lawyer said, in California they lock up our black children faster than they do any other race. 

    • Wayne

      Are you serious , this is the reason Black children still hide behind racism. Yes it happened but  blacks are not viewed any different than white or any other race for that matter, it is however a known fact that there are more black criminals than other races, but the only one using race as an excuse for that are the black people. I say get over it already and stop teaching your kids about something that happened long ago like it is still happening today.

      • Honee_Babe

        You can’t speak about something you have no experience in obviously…  & you definitely don’t speak for any Afro-American..The mere fact that you refer to people of Afro American descent as “black” shows your ignorance, bias, prejudice, and refusal to accept that the institutional discrimination called ‘racism’ EXISTs…  It ‘black and white’… is what distinguishes, allows and keeps “access to basic freedoms and liberties” out of the reach of the majority of Afro-Americans…  What is criminal is the system that feeds them into the prisons…  but then this would be way above your understanding based on your comments… 

        namaste

        • Wayne

          I was not trying to cause an argument, just showing my side of the debate. I was simply talking about the way black people are viewed against white people, I did not refer to them as afro-american because in the statement i responded to that is how they were referred to by obviously a black women(lol)<—-point of my comment. This is not a debate on my educational statute this is a debate on black people being viewed differently than white people. I think if you are white and you go to prison for murder you would be viewed differently than a white person that is law biding and works for IBM. And all I was saying is that sometimes well most of the time black people hide behind something that happened a long time ago for their reasoning. So what I was saying is we need to stop educating our black children about something that happened a long time ago as if it were happening today. Everyone is associated with their actions in today's world not just "Wayne's World" and unfortunately there is a lot of association when it comes to race.

          • Wayne

            Oh see now we got off the entire point, in this case that this all started over if you go read the article about this incident, the reason this person was not able to fly and asked to get off the plane was for his refusal to comply with what was being asked, not because what he was wearing  or how he was wearing it rather,and somehow this is getting blamed on his skin color, I tried to research about the man in the panties and could not find anything, but if I had to guess I would say he had to get dressed to be able to fly and if he was not able to fly i doubt if he would had said it was because he was white.

          • kim

            Wayne, you need to be a critical thinker. A young black male in America is often viewed as the ENEMY by mainstream America. Consequently, laws are passed that target this demographic group. The laws that have been passed in certain southern states outlawing sagging pants occurred because this is a fashion that many young African American men embraced. Yes, young white surburban males mimicked the style but they are not the ones being targeted–Black males are. It is a law that basically has found a loophole in racial profiling. It’s illegal to racially profile an individual but if I know that a certain White male population prefers J Crew  gear, and as a legislator I have something against young white males, in order to get around that prejudicial profiling, I’d propose that anyone wearing J Crew not be allowed to ride the Metro and be fined. So now you can then say, when statistically a large percentage of young white males are being fined, that they are being fined for wearing J Crew on the Metro, not because they are young White males. And you could argue for those arrested by the Fashion Police, “Well they were arrested because they didn’t comply, not because of their skin color.  Marinate in that for a minute and then compare that example , albeit an extreme one, to what happened to the young Black football player ousted for wearing sagging  PJs on the plane.  Personally, it’s time for White America to get over it’s obsessive hatred with Black Americans, especially Black males.

          • kim

            Obviously you are speaking from the other side of the fence called White Entitlement, Wayne! You have never had to worry about being shot 100 times by twelve cops as was the case of the unarmed Haitian man sitting in his car in Florida in Liberty City a few weeks ago. You have never been hassled in Washington, DC during “White Weekend” when whites and white tourist hang out in Gallery Place and police hassle Blacks because they are not wanted in that area and whites basically view black males as inherently criminal which is backed up by the military-like policing of the black population in areas that have been gentrified in DC.
            You are under the impression that ALL African Americans that have a run-in with police are up to no good! Not true. Professor Daryl Gates was trying to get inside his house in his upscale neighborhood after he had locked himself out, and even though he told the arresting officer that he lived there and showed James Crow (umm…Jim Crow) his I.D. he was still arrested. You have implied African Americans often use the race card or the white oppression card as an excuse of sorts when we are unjustly incarcerated and punished for crimes uncommitted by the accused. A 14 year old girl was sentenced to seven years in prison in Paris TX for allegedly pushing her teacher when the child felt threatened. The teacher was unharmed but the judge had this young Black girl incarcerated and only after her story hit the airways was she released. A seven year old Black boy was sitting on a dirt bike outside his apartment when he was approached by Baltimore cops, dragged off the bike and arrested. He was actually placed in handcuffs. Why? Because in Baltimore you cannot ride a dirt bike on the street or the sidewalk. However the child was merely sitting on the bike. He couldn’t even ride the doggone bike. Now this child has nightmares..And the list goes on Wayne involving White cops killing, planting false evidence on Black males and even striking black teenage girls in the face as was the case in  Ft. lauderdale in 2005.  YES White America is not kind to African Americans and especially African American males. You white men couldn’t handle the hell that Black males goe through as unwanted citizens of America. So get it right Mr. White, yes many African Americans are discriminated against daily and given unjust prison sentences.

      • Slick Royal

        Yeah, maybe in “Wayne’s World” blatant racism does not exist, but here in Amerikkka (and reality) it is very prevelant. I live in super-liberal Cali, and race relations still seem tense, especially between hispanics and blacks. I can only imagine what it is like in Southern states, where segregation is still the norm, not the exception. I think i was reading about some high school where they still have separate Proms for the black and white kids. As far as Black criminals, I can’t really think of very many black congressmen and senators, so you are wrong again, Wayne.

      • datruthisscary

        @ wayne 

        “Yes it happened but  blacks are not viewed any different than white or any other race for that matter”

        In this country, Wayne, Blacks and other minorities who have committed crimes are typically given a harsher prison sentence than Whites who commit the same type of crime…regardless of whether they are first time offenders or not. This is a proven fact. Why do you think that is, Wayne?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Greg-Gross/500014741 Greg Gross

        Blacks are not viewed any differently from whites? Maybe on your planet. Not here.

      • Sasa

        Wayne said:

        I say get over it already and stop teaching your kids about something that happened long ago like it is still happening today.

        I agree Wayne, however the people who need to GET OVER IT are WHITES, the civil war is over, Madonna looks like a white raisen, American history textbooks are a joke, the “fathers of” everything are not white. When will whites get over it?

      • Jmoney

        u are racist 

      • keepintime

        Don’t have a clue what planet you inhabit, Wayne, but it can’t possibly be the third one closest to the sun. Your uninformed comment indicates you are either a) attempting humor where absolutely none exists, b) woefully unobservant of what happens all around you each and every day, or c) woefully ignorant and in desperate need of education. I’m guessing it’s probably none of the above, though, and more along the lines of d):

        http://wonkette.com/448772/kentucky-tea-party-sells-patriotic-yup-im-a-racist-fourth-of-july-t-shirts.

        Pitiable indeed.

  • Margarett

    HBCUs are stuggling with their athletic programs because mamy of our talented athletes are heading to predominantly white collages. There are many who are sitting on the bench who would be outstanding at an HBCU. When are we going to wake up and realize that African American athletes are only “loved” because of the money they bring to these schools?  Most importantly, we need to step back and look at what is happening to our institutions. They are struggling and sports provide a lot of fundig for schools along with helping build character in young men and women.

    I believe we need to start a revolution to get our young men and women back to HBCUs. I am not talking about everyone, but a larte majority of them. At the same time the HBCUs need to step up their game and get good coaches who know how to win and graduate their athletes. Bottom line we need to stop getting surprised when these things happen. We can file law suits all day, but at the end of the day, we need to protect our neighborhoods and our schools so they can still create future excellent role models for generations to come.

  • Margarett

    HBCUs are stuggling with their athletic programs because mamy of our talented athletes are heading to predominantly white collages. There are many who are sitting on the bench who would be outstanding at an HBCU. When are we going to wake up and realize that African American athletes are only “loved” because of the money they bring to these schools?  Most importantly, we need to step back and look at what is happening to our institutions. They are struggling and sports provide a lot of fundig for schools along with helping build character in young men and women.

    I believe we need to start a revolution to get our young men and women back to HBCUs. I am not talking about everyone, but a larte majority of them. At the same time the HBCUs need to step up their game and get good coaches who know how to win and graduate their athletes. Bottom line we need to stop getting surprised when these things happen. We can file law suits all day, but at the end of the day, we need to protect our neighborhoods and our schools so they can still create future excellent role models for generations to come.

  • Margarett

    HBCUs are stuggling with their athletic programs because mamy of our talented athletes are heading to predominantly white collages. There are many who are sitting on the bench who would be outstanding at an HBCU. When are we going to wake up and realize that African American athletes are only “loved” because of the money they bring to these schools?  Most importantly, we need to step back and look at what is happening to our institutions. They are struggling and sports provide a lot of fundig for schools along with helping build character in young men and women.

    I believe we need to start a revolution to get our young men and women back to HBCUs. I am not talking about everyone, but a larte majority of them. At the same time the HBCUs need to step up their game and get good coaches who know how to win and graduate their athletes. Bottom line we need to stop getting surprised when these things happen. We can file law suits all day, but at the end of the day, we need to protect our neighborhoods and our schools so they can still create future excellent role models for generations to come.

    • Brook

      Collages?  Do you mean “colleges”?

      • OMGoodness

        for real Brook?

      • http://twitter.com/BaretNews Baret News

         perhaps its a collection of white things?

  • Elandry777

    Boycott!!!

  • Jo

    This is unbelievable.  And this is America!  Every right thinking Americian should be enraged.  If there is any other way to get there, I will not use US Airways. 

    It is interesting that they say that they do not have a dress code.  It makes me think that they just think it is appropriate to mistreat black folk.

    Tell me where to sign up, US Airways should hear from America. 

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  • Lola-511

    I would not like to see either on my flight! I am sooooooooooo very tired of young Black men wearing sagging pants whether it’s a fad or not! I am tired of stopping at a red light only to see young men trying to cross the street, walking wide legged to hold up their pants when a belt would do the trick-they can’t run, and I’ve seen a couple of young boys fall down while trying to run with their pants sagged down below their hips. It is not cute to show everybody your sometimes dirty underwear-who wants to see that??? As for the man wearing only blue underwear-why was he not thrown off the plane? Who  wants to sit in a seat next to him or after him in a seat that just touched his barely covered a$$???  Airlines do not have a dress code? Time to get one and enforce it for all!

  • Misstylady1

    That’s racist America for you.  And they are always saying they aren’t racist…WHAT A JOKE!

    • Beverly

      If they would say they are racist, they would have more to lose but to remain pretentious is a way of throwing a brick and saying who did it?

  • Honee-Babe

    Boycott US Airways.. Boycott US Airways… Boycott US Airways… Boycott US Airways.
    .
    & SUE THEM FOR RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AND HARASSMENT….

    & may I add I am not a fan of sagging pants but neither was my parents of my fashion sense..  If one is not being indecently exposed.. ie private parts, or no dress code is required,… to each his own freedom of expression……

  • Ester_fret

    People of color know about the double standard treatment of the races in America.Black civil right so call leaders never speake to correct this mess.I would like to see our(black leaders),crying foul play in the streets than drinking coffe in three peice suits while riding a limo to a meeting with the powers who maned them leaders.I,m sure we all know who,passing out titles.

  • Louise

    Boycott: I will not ride U.S. Airways.  

  • Louise

    Boycott: I will not ride U.S. Airways.  

  • Slick Royal

    Anyone who doesn’t believe their is still an agenda against blacks needs to wake up and pull their head out of their arse. The US Gov was letting black men die of Syphillis while telling them they were being cured up until the 1970’s.  Trigger-happy fascist piggies shoot unarmed black youth and recieve Commendations on a nearly weekly basis.  The Government created and shipped crack directly to innner-city neighborhoods.  These are things that we KNOW about….. Now imagine the UNKNOWN! 

    • guestestwitthebestest

      Amen.

  • Mike

    Quit walking around with your ass out homeboy.

    • Hateorrelate

      how u sound well yall need ta stop walkin round wit dem tight ass pants on like dat shit cool sum pple dress like dat if any body wanna sagg let dem i got kick out of skewl fo sagging dats basically sayin i get kicked out fo being black if i buy my pants y i cant wear dem how i want to e like da shit b ta my knees pussy ass crackers we free obama won bitch 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Greg-Gross/500014741 Greg Gross

    There’s no question that US Airways was using a double standard here. When it comes to fashion statements that cross the line, you either have to let both fly or neither. US Airways blew it bigtime.  They probably will lose in court and they deserve to.

    At the same time, it has to be said:  If you walk around dressed like a thug in a society where folks are afraid of you from BIRTH by virtue of your being a black male, what do you THINK is going to happen to you?

    You may have the right to sag if you choose, but that doesn’t automatically shield you from the consequences of that choice.

    We can talk rights all we want, but at some point, reality, judgment and sense need to enter the discussion, because every choice we make in this life — including how we choose to present ourselves in public — has consequences.

    • guestestwitthebestest

      I too don’t like the sagging pants phenomenon that inflicts urban youth (of many races), but, I do not agree that just because people are afraid of Black men or Black people that Blacks should conform to appeaze the terrified.

      The choice to assimilate and to what degree is each of ours to make. 

      I don’t like the sagging pants because it is fashionably ridiculous, but I do like that youth rage against the machine through fashion, as do the emos and goths and grundge and nerds.

      We as a people get to decide if we want to allow the villification of our young men and women or not.  We can choose to believe that sagging pants is the glorification of the prison system or the welcome sign for homosexual sex, which it could be, but it could also simply be our kids forging an identity for themselves.  We get to decide whether they are demons or not, whether the image, no matter what it is, equals a monster.

      That is what happens.  No matter what era, what generation, the ways that Blacks identify themselves immediately translates to the media and the general populus as dark and something to fear, barbaric, animalistic, and uncivilized.

      It is only when we identify with the status quo more than we do ourselves, perhaps signifying that Blacks have no need to identify themselves, that they are satisfied having their identities forged for them, no sovereignty over Black thought, Black imaging, Black language, Black physicality, so on and so forth, that those who fear Blackness can rest easy and sit next to us on a plane.

      Black people do not have to covet their love, their acceptance, their validation, their anything in order to be great.  Quite the opposite, actually.

      And when I say “their” I mean those who fear Black, for no other reason than Blackness is vast, which is why all of us fear the dark.

    • Okpara

      I guess the white guy dressed in drag went completely over your head, huh? You don’t even see the double standard? Or does the drag queen appeal to you more?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Greg-Gross/500014741 Greg Gross

    There’s no question that US Airways was using a double standard here. When it comes to fashion statements that cross the line, you either have to let both fly or neither. US Airways blew it bigtime.  They probably will lose in court and they deserve to.

    At the same time, it has to be said:  If you walk around dressed like a thug in a society where folks are afraid of you from BIRTH by virtue of your being a black male, what do you THINK is going to happen to you?

    You may have the right to sag if you choose, but that doesn’t automatically shield you from the consequences of that choice.

    We can talk rights all we want, but at some point, reality, judgment and sense need to enter the discussion, because every choice we make in this life — including how we choose to present ourselves in public — has consequences.

  • Marcusdavis40

    Definetly boycott this airlines ,just racist white crap.The young brotha that was escorted off the airline for his baggy pants should most definetly sue them.

  • Ron

    Would ove to see what would happen if this guy/gl in the panties was black.

  • Aaron

    Although I wholeheartedly oppose how this young man was insulted and the phony charges placed against him, “suspicion of trespassing, battery and resisting arrest”, he was admitted passage and produced a ticket upon entry. But I do say it’s a damn shame the young black males with their trousers hanging down advertising they’re open for homosexual activity, which I understand originated in prisons. Keep their pants up and show their proclivity to gayness in another manner. I was shocked to see so many black males of various ages promoting their “game”! There are many beautiful ladies looking  for black males, but not the downlow!!

  • Doron

    I’m fairly confident that with the video evidence, this young man could get rich. In my experience, the best lessons are learned when they are costly.

  • Dentinfor

    My guess is they didn’t want him tripping over them if an emergency happened.  Boy shoulda pulled up his pants.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Coverstone/1670036084 Brian Coverstone

    It’s easy to hide something in the saggy pants, it’s not easy to hide something in the exposed underwear.  Though I’d rather look at the sagging pants then exposed underwear, I understand the issue and I don’t think it is a double standard.  Pull your pants up when you fly and quit crying.

  • Readster

    The article on abc news says that his pants were down around his knees that is quite a difference wonder why they didn’t mention that in this story?

  • Doc S

    You guys make me laugh. All about starting a revolution to get what you “deserve”. How about the singer of Green Day, one of the biggest bands in the world, getting kicked off because his pants sagged. The difference is, he dealt with it instead of acting like he DESERVED something. Maybe it’s not a black thing, but an ignorance thing. When I see a guy who’s pants are sagging and he has to use one of his hands to hold them up while he walks (grabbing the waistline), isn’t that just dumb? Wow…I guess it’s a black thing and I just don;t understand, right? Wow…get on with your lives and own up to your own business.

  • HATEORRELATE

    DESE CRACKERZ DO US WRONG WE FREE OBAMA WON REMEMBER DAT 

  • Jdoe

    Cool! At last the measures are being taken against sagging pants. I am so sick of seeing people walking by my house showing off their stupid underwear. Thank Goodness this disgusting crap is punishable now.

  • http://twitter.com/BaretNews Baret News

    What are you all smoking?
    How did you leap from the young man being removed from the plane, to it being a racist act?

    “a young black male college student can be quickly criminalized because
    he refuses to follow the orders of an overzealous and possibly racist
    flight attendant.”

    POSSIBLY RACIST?  What was said to the young man?
    Did they say bad words to him? What did he say back to them?
    You don’t know what they said, or what he said, but here you all are, up in arms over a racist act, without knowing what the facts are.

    You are generating your own racism. You are generating racism where there isn’t any.
    If you don’t stop doing that, you will never be free. You are just like Barack Obama. He can’t utter more than a few sentences without pointing the finger at someone else. It is always someone else’s fault. Stop doing that.

    Stand on your own two feet. If there really is racism, do something about it, but if there isn’t, don’t make it up. You’re making yourselves into a bunch of victims and it isn’t doing you any good at all. Who controls your life? You or other people? Take control. Ignore what other people say or think. Be the best you can be.

    And yes, I’m an old white guy, so feel free to knock me down, feel free to say racist things about me. It won’t hurt me, because I control my life, not you.

    You are also self-segregating yourselves. Do you like segregation? I thought you guys had a big brawl over that because it was bad. Now you want black colleges, all-black businesses, black restaurants, black movie theatres. My black friends don’t do any of that.

    Respect has to be earned – that’s the way it is. You don’t have to do a lot to get respect from most people.

    Take control, support people and businesses that you like and that support you. Stop supporting people and businesses that you don’t like or that don’t like you, but don’t boycott all non-black businesses, because that is either racist or pretty close to it.

    Stop being victims. You have power within you – use it.

  • Chirovance

    I hate that children are allowed on buses in Minneapolis/St Paul and exposed to the bad language (every 3rd word from too many young black passengers is “fuckin'” or “motherfucker” or “nigger”), sagging pants and bad manners. Bill Cosby is right – You’ve shot Yourselves. Obama is the captain of the Titanic and I voted for him.

  • Chirovance

    I hate that children are allowed on buses in Minneapolis/St Paul and exposed to the bad language (every 3rd word from too many young black passengers is “fuckin'” or “motherfucker” or “nigger”), sagging pants and bad manners. Bill Cosby is right – You’ve shot Yourselves. Obama is the captain of the Titanic and I voted for him.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3JXI7YAAZMRQMYP3Z4R7SV3GWQ Kevin

    Flying,walking down a street,in a restaurant or where ever. It shows no respect for people around them ,if their pants are saggin’. Black or white doesn’t matter.  It’s sloppy looking. And every time i see that the person wearing his pants like that, walks slow and has a swagger strut like attitude “I will kick your ass if you say anything or even look at me.” Too bad racism gets in the way of what’s legal and not legal. America is going to the dogs. Going backwards in time. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3JXI7YAAZMRQMYP3Z4R7SV3GWQ Kevin

    Flying,walking down a street,in a restaurant or where ever. It shows no respect for people around them ,if their pants are saggin’. Black or white doesn’t matter.  It’s sloppy looking. And every time i see that the person wearing his pants like that, walks slow and has a swagger strut like attitude “I will kick your ass if you say anything or even look at me.” Too bad racism gets in the way of what’s legal and not legal. America is going to the dogs. Going backwards in time. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3JXI7YAAZMRQMYP3Z4R7SV3GWQ Kevin

    I strongly believe it is a result of lack of discipline..So breaking the rules is ok breaking the law is ok,Over stepping boundaries is fine. Sad USA

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3JXI7YAAZMRQMYP3Z4R7SV3GWQ Kevin

    I strongly believe it is a result of lack of discipline..So breaking the rules is ok breaking the law is ok,Over stepping boundaries is fine. Sad USA