Creflo Dollar Appears to Support Bishop Eddie Long

by Dr. Boyce Watkins, Your Black World.

Pastor Creflo Dollar, head of the World Changers Church International gave a sermon this week in which he appears to be standing up for his buddy, the Bishop Eddie Long.  In fact, Dollar says that the pastor (which he didn’t name) had a “wreck” and that he’s glad that he had “insurance.”

Dollar says that the pastor he speaks of is a “friend” and a “brother in the Lord.”   He then goes on to say the following:

“I don’t know what it is with the church. When you have a wreck you expect for God to forgive you and everyone else. Don’t let the preacher have a wreck, now. Then you become self righteous and you become judgmental and you’re gonna leave the preacher for his wreck when you done had more wrecks. That preacher’s still anointed to do what he was called to do. He just had a wreck. The blood will take care of his issue just like it will take care of yours.”

 

Dollar then said that anyone who wants to join his church after leaving the other pastor is not welcome.
“If you’re from that church . . .and you trying to join here, I don’t want you to join here,” Dollar said. “You need to go and join where you supposed to be. I don’t want you here. That is my friend that is my brother in the Lord.”

 

It’s disturbing that Pastor Dollar might consider defending Bishop Eddie Long without being able to prove his actual innocence in the allegations against him.  It’s not as if Bishop Long is being accused of shop lifting or a traffic violation:  He is being accused of using his influence to coerce sex out of the young men that were placed in his care.  This is a very serious allegation that reflects a problematic safety concern for the young children who attended New Birth Missionary Baptist Church.

 

I certainly hope that Pastor Dollar was not making reference to Bishop Eddie Long, but I can’t help but believe that he was.  If Dollar was defending Long, he should be ashamed.   There is nothing Godly about blindly defending a man who was accused of violating the innocence of children in such a terrible way.  By making such a statement, Pastor Dollar puts himself with the ranks of Catholic Priests who protected one another at the expense of untold suffering by thousands of young people.  I am sickened by his remarks.

Dr. Boyce Watkins is a Professor at Syracuse University and founder of the Your Black World coalition.  To have Dr. Boyce commentary delivered to your email, please click here.

  • Higgspatricia

    Actually Creflo Dollar Believe that Eddie Long did what he did. Reading what he said. As Christian we suppose to forgive one another. I’m not to particular of What Creflo Dollar is saying either. A lot of these pastors are twisted up in the word of God.

    • Tip185

      If that’s the case he should be more concerned about the young men than people leaving Eddie long church.  You don’t turn people away from a hospital if they are sick…you welcome souls to the church.  Obvious these people cannot continue under his leadership and is seeking another place to worship the last thing they should get is to we don’t want you here.  You can forgive people all day long but that doesn’t excuse their actions.  Many people have forgiven their husbands/wives for cheating but still left, many have forgiven people who stole money for them but they still pressed charges….and the list goes on.

      • Rfhunlimit

        this is the best response Ive read yet and it shows this person actually thought about the totality of what Creflow said and weighed the ramifications of it and  base on what Tip185 stated I agree, However I don’t believe Creflow was directing his comments to the hurting who just cant sit under a fallen preacher but instead to the many church hoppers who always look for the next big thing… I haven’t heard the comment for myself so i really cant make a sound opinion on it based of the fact that the tone pitch and emotionality of the comment cant be transferred in writing so I cant determine the spirit of the comment

        • JustinTs47

          13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Matthew 23:13

  • AntBee

    Creflo Dollar is no better than Eddie Long!

    They are all about the money, and members who continue to give them their money deserves what they get.

    How can people be so stupid?

    These preachers defend each other! What else would Creflo Dollar say?

    They want members to continue to support a man that preaches against homosexuals, but wants to lay down with boys and men who are homosexuals, or who they can turn into doing homo acts with them. These so called men of GOD are frauds. The can’t help themselves because they are gay, and on the DL. They will continue to seek out boys/men just like them.

    However, it is the members who continue to praise this type of man, and continue to give him their money who is mostly to blame!

    He had a “wreck”, please give us a break!!!

    • Altha Cutright

      I could not have said it better!

    • God’s Creation

      People have a choice and can exercise if they want to leave or stay at any church. Do you go to church? What are you doing, if anything to support the Kingdom of God? You too will have to stand before God and be judged on speaking against God’s chosen, maybe all the times you committed sex outside of marriage, lied, stole, made TV your God instead of the Almighty one. Don’t forget that.

      • CW

        Ummm, isn’t Creflo Dollar and Eddie Long on TV?  They receive a huge revenue from their TV audience right?  So, since people watch these shysters on TV, isn’t TV essentially their God?   They’ve turned the TV into a church, so by watching these con artists right?

        By the way, it’s not for you to say that we’re  not right with God simply people disagree with the thievery of Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long and others like them. 

  • A2ycottman

    Wow really Creflo Dollar…your name says it all…SMH

    • Rev. Whitehead

      I love Bishop Long, He was wrong, is wrong, and I am sorry to say I now believe he is guilty.  If not why would he pay the money.  Why is it everytime we trust Black men in power they let us down.  Bishop I pray have repented of any wrong ding and God has wiped away his past from the nrth t the south from the east to the west.  If this is true then Bishop if he’s repented down’t have any thing t worry abut. 

    • Rev. Whitehead

      I love Bishop Long, He was wrong, is wrong, and I am sorry to say I now believe he is guilty.  If not why would he pay the money.  Why is it everytime we trust Black men in power they let us down.  Bishop I pray have repented of any wrong ding and God has wiped away his past from the nrth t the south from the east to the west.  If this is true then Bishop if he’s repented down’t have any thing t worry abut. 

    • rev. whitehead

       I love Bishop Long, He was wrong, is wrong, and I am sorry to say I now believe he is guilty.  If not why would he pay the money?  Why is it every time we trust Black men in power they let us down.  Bishop I pray have repented of any wrong doing and God has wiped away his past from the north t the south from the east to the west.  If this is true then Bishop if he’s repented don’t have any thing t worry about.  God remembers his sin no more.  Jesus has them.
      I fall down stairs and the insurance company deem it my fault.  Now I must have hip surgery and knee surgery, teeth replaced etc; but it’s okay I don’t have any money to fight for my rights and the system won’t.  Medicare even hit me with if the insurance pays me they must get paid first, scared the lawyers away because it would leave nothing for them.  Money makes money, and fools loves to hear lies.
      Different is if you listen to Bishop Longs sermons you will know he did not preach lies.  He preached from the Word, he preached the Word. 
      Now what happened to him I don’t know?  Why this happened to him I don’t know. Is he gay I don’t known. Are gays born like this I don’t know but I don’t believe it.  I believe somebody touched them at some point in their lives. Even foolish mothers/parents misuse their children, teaching them things that no child should learn from a parent.   
      As for Rev. Dollar Are you God?  God said come as you are.  God said no man has the right to judge unless they judge righteous judgment.  The least that turns away one of His own shall suffer and will pay so why is Rev. Dollar getting involved with trying to send the people back to where they have lost their faith? 
      I stopped listening to these preachers a long time ago.  You got no money they got nothing for you, and their tapes and books along robs.  If you don’t’ have anything, you best to move on. Pimping, Preachers and Politics lives in the supposed church. Children of God lives in the Church.

      • Dalan

        Why is this so complicated for yall?   Faith is in God, not in man.  A preacher sinned.  OK.  I almost don’t want to tell you this, but all preachers sin.  They are human.  Sorry to inform you?  Perhaps if those young men who were victims had been taught that earlier they would not have been so vulnerable.  If we keep pretending or getting angry every time a preacher or politician gets caught with his pants down, we are creating and feeding the culture that keeps people ignorant and able to be preyed upon, especially children.

        • God’s Creation

          You are right!  We just need to pray more for our world in general and learn to become better ourselves…only then can we be healed as a person, family, community and nation. I come from a “Christian” background and right now I have people in my family who go to church who do not speak to me, nor will discuss why. This is why Prayer IS so important.

          • JustinTs47

            9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.10 Whoso causeth the righteous to go astray in an evil way, he shall fall himself into his own pit: but the upright shall have good things in possession. Proverbs 28:9,10

        • God’s Creation

          You are right!  We just need to pray more for our world in general and learn to become better ourselves…only then can we be healed as a person, family, community and nation. I come from a “Christian” background and right now I have people in my family who go to church who do not speak to me, nor will discuss why. This is why Prayer IS so important.

        • Beverly Goodwin

          They were taught that predators oops preachers are good people and the bible do tell you to pray for your preachers.  This is where the fallacy of christian trust falls in.

      • God’s Creation

        Maybe he is guilty, maybe he isn’t. Sometimes it is easier to pay. The court system is a MESS too! I am not into Bishop Long, but I hate to keep seeing how people of God get ridiculed by the world.

      • God’s Creation

        Maybe he is guilty, maybe he isn’t. Sometimes it is easier to pay. The court system is a MESS too! I am not into Bishop Long, but I hate to keep seeing how people of God get ridiculed by the world.

        • Dalan

          So what if he is guilty?  What does it mean?  Some older men are attracted to younger men?  Old men been chasing young girls forever.   Is this an issue for yall because dude is gay?  If the issue were really about protecting kids, folks pointing at preachers are taking attention away from grand daddy’s sugar daddies, and “uncles” who are the largest group of child molesters.  Seems to me a whole lot of folks are playing with this issue and not really dealing with it.

          • Meanchick

            EXCUSE ME? Really? What do you mean “So what if he is guilty?” This is not about being gay. THIS is about a man who preyed sexually on underage boys. THAT is a crime and no amount of money, no amount of God and no amount of position is going to wash that away! He is also a child molester and his settlement doesn’t change that! How can someone truly believe in the word of God and NOT tend to their own children and family FIRST? You have problems.

          • Dalan

            Um.  excuse me. I don’t think I am the one with the problem.  My point was and is that my reality is not changed by what that man did or did not do.  SO you and everybody else like you need to step back and ask yourselves why this is such an issue for yall?   SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT IN YOUR LIFE when what someone else did or didn’t do rages such an issue for you.   But for what it is worth, underneath all this rage, I don’t think yall upset because he is a preacher or because he settled.  I think yall mad cause dude is gay.

  • http://twitter.com/Blknight96 Blknight96

    I don’t like these so called “prosperity preachers”, they flaunt their wealth in front of the world and most of all their members who are catching pure hell out here financially.  His arrogance shown through claiming that either one of these fake prophets will go to Heaven before you and I because of our faults.

    Think he should’ve listened to the Joe Madison show this morning when this topic came up and he’d really see how much love either one of these self professed men are getting.  Not that much.

    • Ltkanew

      Prosperity preachers….what exactly does that mean? Do you not have the desire to be prosperous in every area of your life including your finances? Do you not understand that the Lord has the desire for you to be prosperous in every area of your life? Flaunting wealth in front of the world and most of their members are catching hell out here financially…while I can’t speak for the personal lives of any of these pastors what I do know is that it is ok to be a pastor and have money and I think you would be surprised if you knew how much money was put into the church by these preachers and that most of them don’t even receive a pay check from the church. The outreach done by pastors like Joel Osteen, Pastor Dollar, TD Jakes etc goes unnoticed and unmentioned and that outreach takes money. Have you ever been in a position to help someone financially..would it not be the same assumption for them to say that you flaunt your prosperity to the world while they are struggling…just because you have something that someone else has not attained does not mean that you are flaunting what you have at all. People who make comments like this clearly have not actually listened to Pastor Dollar for a sermon because while he does speak about prosperity he speaks about total life prosperity which means doing well in every areas of your life, health, relationships, and yes…even financially. I think if people understood the Word of God they would be a lot less judgmental of the so called prosperity preachers.

      • God’s Creation

        I agree with you. These people do not give, do not read, nor seek real salvation.

    • God’s Creation

      God’s word is PROSPERITY, OR DON’T YOU READ THE BIBLE?  Most successful ministers  DO NOT  get their money from offerings, or a salary from their congregation. They write books, CDs etc. Besides if members are catching hell, it is not the preacher’s fault. The Word of God is a success manual. People give of their OWN FREE WILL.  It is obvious you DO NOT GIVE  to God’s program because of your own selfishness but have much to say! 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

        You seem to be out and about protesting this mess with Long and Do$$ar too much..You know what they say about those who doth protest too much, what skeletons are in your closet rattling and ready to fall out? Free will to do what kill and mame people? If this god was such a just god, look at the numbers of people killed within the past eight years alone, our slave holocaust, and all the genocides fought on the afrikan and asian continents, why did he not interviened? I dont believe in fairy tales, this is all the law of attrition, that this earth need purging of a few millions, we will see a few more natural disasters, but it will not be because of the end time, it will be because mother nature need to balance out the system and do some house cleaning…Keep praying and wearing out those knees, bow your head, close those eyes, and look down at your feet, while the real devils, whitey has his damn eyes open and both barrels aimed at you heads ready to kill your azzes….

    • God’s Creation

      God’s word is PROSPERITY, OR DON’T YOU READ THE BIBLE?  Most successful ministers  DO NOT  get their money from offerings, or a salary from their congregation. They write books, CDs etc. Besides if members are catching hell, it is not the preacher’s fault. The Word of God is a success manual. People give of their OWN FREE WILL.  It is obvious you DO NOT GIVE  to God’s program because of your own selfishness but have much to say! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

    Creflo Do$$ar is a pimp who like all pimps who’ll beat their ho’s azzes and will say to them, girl you better get your ass out there and make me my money…This pimp is telling his congregation that if there were any members from Long’s church in his congregation, they need to go back to their church because Long is his friend…This was so F**king unbelieveable to hear and see these black folks hooting and hollering in Creflo’s church as it they were at Uptown Comedy Club…You can see with your own damn eyes why we were enslaved for so damn long after watching and hearing this BS by Do$$ar…He’s making a joke about this incident with Long being an accident and that’s why Long had insurance? This was the most damn expensive insurance claim for an accidental road kill, four innocent minds and bodies destroyed and the church saddled with paying out 24.5 million to settle his sex abuse claim and no public apology…This is what I call having balls and nerves of steel by these so called men of god (dog spelled backwards) who have seen a hustle that will keep them living and looking good without breaking a sweat and getting dirt under their fingernails…If this does not get more people to run, not walk away from these churches and preachers, I dont know of anything else other than blowing them up, putting a law on the books to keep no more than one black church per neighborhood, or picketing them out of business…

    • Ttle

      Wow, you have really strong opinions about this to the point that in one email you have attempted to tear down a person who you can not even say was speaking of the incident with Bishop Long. Arguably, there are so many things that dont make the news that he could have been making mention of and while it is shameful (if it is true) what happened with Bishop Long I think that you are taking it a bit far with the assumptions here. As a community we are supposed to think the best of people until they give us a reason to think otherwise and speaking out against a man who made mention of an incident that we dont even KNOW who and what he was talking about…that is not what I am about as an African American. Did you think for a moment that he could have been talking about something else…no, of course you didnt because you are so ready to persecute. Geesh yall, what is going on in our community. Was it ever a thought that if Pastor Dollar was talking about Bishop Long that he would have mentioned this a long time ago? Even if he was talking about the settlement he still could have mentioned it because I know for sure that World Changers has three services a week why wait so long to say this if this is what he was talking about?

      • Praying

        The reason Creflo Dollar waited so long to say something was because the case is now settled and no one is allowed to discuss the terms.  Creflo is confident that Long will not admit guilt publicly now because Long paid the settlement and the 4 young men are not allowed to say anything or file another suit based on the terms.  

        I called Dollar’s church myself to ask if he would hear my story and reconsider the harshness of his comments. I told his assistant that there are many more victims than the 4 men we have heard about.  I told his assistant that he had just given permission to every pedophile in his church to have “accidents” and he just shut up any child that is being victimized through his minimizing of the events.  I asked his assistant to let him know that I really felt he needed to hear the negative impact on the lives of many other young men that have not spoken out–I left my phone number.  Of course Creflo Dollar did not call me back.  Instead World Changers responded by having their lawyers jump on YouTube to shut down the posting of his service.

        Creflo Dollar in essence is saying Eddie is guilty and get over it.  If you want to play the “what if” game that is fine but if the best you can do is to ask why did he wait so long then you don’t have much of a case.

        Besides Creflo purposely didn’t say Long’s name so that people like you would say (and he can say) how do you know what I am talking about?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=804930586 Jason Brown

          I concur with your response, very well said.

      • God’s Creation

        I have been to Dr Dollar’s church, used to follow him and I NEVER HEARD him preach on money from 2002 until today. People just want to tear down the Church, but regardless of how men act, Jesus says “On this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Hallelujah! 

        • CW

          Creflo Dollar is all about the mighty dollar.  I have heard him preach that God wants you to be rich.  I have heard him state that God meant for him to have all the wonderful material possessions he owns.  This man is definitely about the might dollar. 

          In his own words:

          “We established last night that you are not whole until you get
          your money. Amen.” His church members cheer when they hear him say “Well,
          you need to hear about money, because you ain’t gonna have no love and joy
          and peace until you get some money!… You got to get some MONEY!” (Creflo
          Dollar, TBN, July 20, 1999)

          Seriously, mega preachers like him are ALWAYS about the money.

    • God’s Creation

      This is terrible what you are saying. You have no respect for anything based on your language…not even  yourself. People not committed to God do not realize that people GIVE THEIR MONEY, of their OWN FREE WILL. I do not support or really care for Bishop Long. I have been to Creflo Dollar’s church and that is NOT HIS attitude as you state.  If you have not been there, you do not know what he preaches. Men are men and God is God. Either  you belong to God or the devil (DOG). It is clear who your father is. But in the last day, (your final day on earth)   you will have to stand before God just like Bishop Long and Dr. Dollar.  You need to get saved.

      • Jacque

        You could probably use a little more saving yourself.  How very judgmental  you sound.  I almost liken some of you “Good Christians” to the current day Tea Party members.  Elitist (In Christ’s love), judgmental and closed minded.  God loves and open mind and an open and good heart. You don’t have to pay to be educated in the ways of Christ.  But, these so called faith bringers very much want to be paid.  Paid very well. It sickens me that sick hearted individuals get away with the worse crimes on God’s Earth (crimes against children) simply by saying they are teachers of the faith.  God know’s HIS children.  They cannot hide behind pretty rags and pretty things.  He KNOWS.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

        I have plenty of love and respect for myself, I have none for idiots and fools…I keep telling you people you DONT have any heaven or hell to put me into..I know exactly who my mama and daddy are, they were married for over forty years before they went back to joint the ancestors..Your god  cannot harm me or do anything for me, he could not even get himself off the damn cross, or out the ground without the big god’s help according to your book…The Devil which i’m sure must be the black, ugly creature with horns and pitchfork, right? Nothing either, he might flip your azz with his fork, but me, he will not even come close…Nice try, go get your Prozac and try it with Jack Daniels, it will mello you out fool…I have been into both Do$$ar’s church and Longs’..I knew Long when he was on Snapfinger Dr in the old bldg and neither of them impressed me..I saw through their hustle, game recognise game, so no they were going to go there with me, they will pimp your azz out because you like doing trix, ho…

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Olin-Ross/546574576 Olin Ross

          I will continue to pray for you….Shakka Zulu……….

        • Susie

          I’m praying for you brother!!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/chris.bernard2 Chris Bernard

            Pray for urself and leave the man alone

      • tina

        He is a pimp. Take it down with water and swallow it. Yes I said now who gone pop me?

    • sheba

      can you get your pont across without curseing?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Olin-Ross/546574576 Olin Ross

      Well if the preacher doesn’t get 10% your money  your Government &  Communist China will…Ha ha ha ha ha…….One way or the other someone(your wife or girlfriend) or something will get your money…….So who is getting your money Shakka Zulu????????     USA is the land of the free fools…..

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

        I keep my ALL my money in my credit union and a small black bank..I don’t support anything except black owned and sponsored..I don’t go to anybody’s religious institutions because nothing made of brick and mortar with a man talking from a book, can do nothing for me..I am the only one who can save myself, period..If the rest of you’ll realize that, you would be more sane, wealthy, and make all these ignorant fools go find a damn job and stop hustling your azz..

    • Yepme2

      Shakka Zulu
      I have to say, you hit the nail, dead on the head, this a major problem in our community, the preacher man-woman; thay are nothing but stuff-players, damaging minds.  Read some of these posts and it makes you sick to read statements from closed minds, afraid to challenge BS.
      They speak of forgiveness, I would ask do they want to forgive the slavemasters for enslaving their past relatives for all the suffering and deaths caused by insane minds.  Only a weak mind would embrace the religion of the slavemaster.  After all, they are honoring and worshipping the slavemaster’s god, which means they forgive the slavemaster and slavery was and is okay, as long as you say, “You’re sorry”For those sticking with Long:  He is not sorry for what he is accused of, he maybe sorry of being accused and having to pay out the money.  I assure you, if it is true what they accused him of, he will continue doing it, especially since he is getting away with it legally.  The question is, who’s child will be sacrificed next, you should pray, it is not someone close to you. *******************************************************************************************

      CW comment:Yes! Great comment Karla!  It amazes me that these mega preachers are allowed to continually fleece innocent people who truly believe that giving these thieves money is redemptive.  What can be done?  Can you imagine what could done with that money if it were poured into our communities?   It seems a lot of people are disgusted the same as you and I.  So, if this is the case, why isn’t something being done?
      ***********************************************************************************************To prove your point, if the preachers would come together and pool the resources, mind energy and finances, we could be a powerful entity to deal with, we coud build a nation within a nation.  The question, why have they not come together?  Answer, They have a political partnership to be instrumental in the divide and conquer method of keeping the community weak.  That is why, the churches are tax exempt, a partnership of, I keep what I get through extortion of taxes and you keep what you get stuffing.

      What you can do is learn how to recognize BS and stop preparing for death and prepare for living.  There is a simple formula for recognizing BS.  Understand, the universe is a system of physics with evolving energy governed by mathematical principles.  All function is real, all results are real, the only place BS is generated is in the mind and expressed through the written and spoken word.  The formula, listen to what is said and understand what you read, if the two, do not match the results, it is automatically BS.

                 

      • CW

        I agree, that is why I have NEVER given to any kind of church.  Especially since none of these so called religious corporations could tell me what is being done with the money.  Great points and thanks for answering my question.

  • http://www.perspectives-anotherwaytoview.blogspot.com Carolyn Moon

    That old adage:  “Birds of a Feather Flock Together”  rings true with Creflo Dollar and his
    fellow colleagues in the theater of televangelist-misdeeds.   hmmm…

  • Ann

    This is why our family left the “Church” over 6 years ago. Every last one, including Rev. Jackson from Chicago, and the rest of them. They are all about money, and continuing to really keep blacks in the “underdog” positions other wise how will they make their living?
    Just look at the overall, NAACP, OPERATION PUSH, URBAN LEAGUE, ETC, WHERE ARE THE SCHOOLS FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS, ESPECIALLY BOYS? Not the CATHOLIC SCHOOLS, but coming from the community without Government support, does anybody think any more, or our we gonna continue to drink the Kool-aide? Well I quit and I homeschool my own, and I am reaching out to others, sometimes and most times not even in my race. Totally ridculous now Black Preachers taking advantange of our children, does it really suprise you? They’ve been doing it to Single and married Black mothers, as well as our daughters for ages, what was left? Yes, I said it, and I am black and voted all of my life as a democrat. Just done with these pimps and rapist along all lines.
    I wonder what they would really do if black folks really woke up one day, Just what would they do? What would you do? When will we do it?

    • God’s Creation

      The people are the church…not th building. All ministers are not about money. Check out http://www.billwinston.org is you want to grow in God and learn to PRACTICE  God’s Word. Yes, I have had MANY disappointments with Christians as I am a minister myself, but I know God Almighty IS GOD, not the man. Yes, ministers should practice what they preach, but Believers are also called to PRAY FOR THE CHURCH. Do you PRAY FOR  or CONDEMN.

      • JustinTs47

        1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. James 3:1,2

  • http://www.thenoblepeople.org Jason A. Brown

    Hello Dr. B.W.,This cannot be constituted as a “wreck!” If this is a wreck, Pastor Dollar, you have just co-signed for the designer sports car used in the hit and run accident, which resulted in the injuries of these young men.We must be very careful in how we respond or address the former members that have made the choice of departing from New Birth, to tell them that, “I don’t want you here” is not an option to imply. Remember, World Changers is a place of worship, people are supposed to come there to do such that and everyday it is God’s grace that the seats are full.In addition, right now, these are people who are confused and need a place to lay their weary heads and they are in need of support. Give them your unconditional support, them leaving was not an easy choice.Sometimes the most difficult hurt and disappointment you can experience is the kind that comes from the church, so therefore we are to be careful with God’s people and our selection of words. Jesus said,”Come all that are heavy laden” so therefore we are to receive them as such.Pastor Dollar, please say words that will edify. When this story first broke I was concern for the people more so then Eddie Long. He will simply lose money and members, the members themselves will lose time, sacrifice, direction and trust and now with your words the lack of support, especially when remarks are said that go against their behalf.Former members of New Birth Missionary, stay encourage and know that God is with you and he see all and hears all. I pray this will continue to propel you in his never exhausting grace and mercy. This too shall pass…

    • Rfhunlimit

      Its obvious who the real Christians are on this tread… Although I don’t condone Eddie Long’s actions that wouldn’t make me ostracise’s him if he was already my friend… I would offer him help where he needed it and keep it moving… Everyone is flawed. thats is why Christianity exist. Supporting a brother and cosigning on his actions are two totally different things… We need to learn how to love the way Jesus taught us how to Love

      • Blackfootlion

        I wonder how you would feel if it was your child that was molested.  Would you take the money or talk to the scambag about the error of his ways and just trust in Jesus?

        • Makeme4the

           No one is down playing how a person should feel who an act of molestation was against their children. No one is saying don’t prosecute through the legal system if all else fails. But, I hope you’re not saying money makes it all better either. We are to pray if a brother or sister has fallen not kick them or leave them there. AND YES we are to forgive although it is hard to do sometimes.

      • God’s Creation

        I agree with you!

      • God’s Creation

        I agree with you!

      • CW

        It’s not about being FLAWED! It’s about Eddie Long abusing children over the course of YEARS!   He abused his position of power in the most heinous way.

        If it were my children this piece of crap would be in prison right now!  I would take him to the highest court in the land to ensure this scum would sit behind bars.

        Your claim of being able to tell who the real Christians are is insulting to the core.  I wonder if you would say this if it were some bum off the street instead of a mega preacher worth millions. 
         

    • Songbird286

      Beautiful said!

  • Mschievly

    i find it hard to have any faith or creedance for someone who has renamed himself creflo dollar….as i am sure its not his real name.

    its tacky and osentatious -much like the life i am sure hes living as i saw his show once there were more breaks soliciting $ than actual preaching.

    why do people buy into this junk- god and faith is within all of us …not in these jokers, driving fancy cars, living in palatial homes -wondering how little actually goes to good causes/ uses.

    tell him to hang w/ jesse jackson whos credibility is also busted!

    • Ttle

      FYI: He did not rename himself Creflo Dollar…that was his birth name (both first and last name).

    • God’s Creation

      Creflo Dollar Jr is his real name, after his father, Creflo Dollar Sr who was a police officer before he died.You are not a Christian as it is obvious from your posting. But you too will be held accountable and stand before God when you leave the earth.It is people like you who are opinionated based on NOTHING, BUT OPINION. You need to get saved.

  • Karla Roller

    I have not heard one mega-preacher speak out against the actions of Bishop Long. It appears to me that all of them are only interested in that 10% of other peoples monies that they use for selfish gain. It has been said that Long has paid 25 million. The members of his church paid for his immoral and, what should have been, criminal behaviors. I, long ago, resigned from the church because, under the guise of teaching, I found that their primary purpose was to gain wealth and power. I can read the Bible for myself. I can pray for you and myself without requiring any financial assistance. Christ never took a dime. He didn’t dress in tailor made suits nor ride on a high price mule. He also never dictated who could come unto him or direct people as to whom to vote for. This is brainwashing at its worst. I am appalled at the actions of all of them. I am also ashamed that he is receiving this support when all the support should go to his victims. Bishop Long is a  sexual predator. It appears that the other ” Bishops” are also predators but they are predators of other peoples monies.

    • Blackfootlion

      Very well said.

    • God’s Creation

      There are some good ministries and excellent pastors. Check out 
      http://www.billwinston.org. This man teaches others about growing in God and practices what he preaches. I frankly never cared that much for Bishop Long and and stopped watching Dr Dollar on a regular basis years ago. Just be careful, we ALL must answer for the life WE HAVE LIVED on the earth.

      • Crystal

        Bill Winston, Dr. Dollar and Fred Price all have similiar ministries. I have attended all of their churches and was raised under the faith and prosperity ministry. I think highly of them all. Dr. Dollar is my pastor and he is annointed and ministers straight from the Bible. I believe he walks the walk he talks. His teaching have blessed my life and taught me how to study the word on my own while developing a deeper spiritual relationship with the lord. He is not after your money and people would know it if they took time to listen to him before judging. Dr. Dollar teaches biblical and spiritual principles about tithing and giving that I know are true based on my own personal experience. All the rumors I heard about pastor Dollar’s church when I first moved here were completely false. I wonder how flat out lies get spread around like that. It goes to show you that you can’t believe everything you hear.

        I hate all this bashing of pastors. These men of God are human and flawed just like we are, so lets not forget that. No one is going to like every pastor or church that’s why we have so many to choose from. Different strokes for different folks.

        When I heard about the situation concerning Bishop Long, I prayed for him and those young men. I don’t condone sin of any kind, but it is not my place to judge. I have sinned many times just as many of you who are throwing stones. However, when we confess and repent of our sins God is gracious enough to forgive us no matter how big or small the sin is. The only difference is that our sin is not posted on the internet for the world to read about. I believe if God can forgive a murderer and woman beater, he can also forgive someone who has committed a sexual sin. Thank God we have not had to pay the price for our sins that Bishop Long is paying publicly. That is not to say that Bishop Long is guilt or not b/c I don’t know.

        Remember, when we don’t forgive and hold bitterness and resentment in our heart, God does not hear our prayers. The word of God also says touch not mine annointed, so be careful what you say about these men of God.

        Peace & Blessings,

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Olin-Ross/546574576 Olin Ross

          How do we know Bishop Long is anointed?????Remember the devil have many deceptions in his bag…………

          • Get it for yourself

            Olin..you are correct he is not anointed and neither are the others..no flesh is anointed only our assignments. This deception is used for pastors and preachers who don’t want to be accountable for their actions. They really need to STOP telling this lie  and rightly divide the Word-the only anointed in the Bible was Jesus Christ and Lucifer.

        • Anonymous

          Crystal you are not a Bishop or pastor or preacher are you? Then asyou are encouraged to study, study that Bishops etc are supposed to be blameless. Do not err like many do and apprently those of the cloth does when it comes to them because no other sinner is saying for them to be blameless;howver, the word of God says for them to be blameless, While we cannot cast stones, God certainly has His devine reasons for saying for them to uphold the word that they preach.

        • Aaron

          I guess you have sinned, are you living under Creflo’s roof, is he taking care of you and his wife under the same roof? Is Creflo helping those that are homeless with his mega bucks? All of them are Charlatans like Rev. Ike with his “Water and Prayer Cloths” and that Idiot slapping people on their heads making them walk, may all of them burn in the pits of hell with Satan!!

    • CW

      Yes! Great comment Karla!  It amazes me that these mega preachers are allowed to continually fleece innocent people who truly believe that giving these thieves money is redemptive.  What can be done?  Can you imagine what could done with that money if it were poured into our communities?  

      It seems a lot of people are disgusted the same as you and I.  So, if this is the case, why isn’t something being done?

    • Desma

      You hit it right on the nose!!! I agree with you 100%!!! Thats exactly why my husband and I sit home read and discuss the Bible our selfs. If we dont understand something we usally go to the web site; ‘ Bible Questions and Answers.

      • Susie

        God gives us a free will to do as we please, but you and husband should search and find a church with a pastor who has been annointed to lead a flock.  It doesn’t have to be a mega church…just a congregation who has a leader with a pure spiritual vision.  You will know the spirit by the spirit. Use your spiritual teachings from the word of God to lead you.  You need a spiritual leader.  Not a computer…I will pray that you find peace in your search.  Don’t quit…where would we be if Jesus had thrown in the towel during his week of suffering before Calvery?  We need to step back and let God take care of Bishop Long…If you don’t like his church, find another, but be careful and wise in your search.  God bless you!

        • Altha Cutright

          Where can i find one?

        • Desma

          Well you know when we do go to church its always somthing fishy going on. But just remember church is in the heart, you should not have to go broke to be in one!!

    • jcinme14

      1Tim 3:1 (RSV) The saying is sure: If any one aspires to the office of bishop, he desires a noble task. Now a bishop must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, sensible, dignified, hospitable, an apt teacher, no drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, and no lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children submissive and respectful in every way; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he care for God’s church? He must not be a recent convert, or he may be puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil; moreover he must be well thought of by outsiders, or he may fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

  • Angie

    I’m not sure who’s saved and who is not. Only God truly knows. Actions and not words should define any man and this goes for preachers as well. When this story first came to light nationally I saw the picture Long took of himself using a camera phone. This was not a good look for ANY man of God. Now Dollar assumes that Long has “insurance”. As a Christian I hope that Long is covered for life. Seems like Dollar is implying that this is an isolated incident. HOW can he be so sure? How can a man of God turn anyone away? These people are disenfranchised with his good friend’s church and rightly so. They financed his good friend’s settlement. Dollar’s response is despicable.

  • Stayfocused2onemil

    So many perfect people out there in the world who know so much. I’m not  speaking against anyone, that’s between them and their God when you are willing to put your life on the big screen of the world then your opinion really means something.  Other than that an opinion is the cheapest commodity on earth!  I think the situation is bad as well but that brother will pay dearly as we all will be held accountable for our actions. I feel sorry for the young men who had to go through that mess as well.  Get worked up about your life then maybe you  would have more time to change the world. Some of ya’ll writing full articles yourself and you have bills past due. YBW is making money believe that. I got to go build my business. peace. 

  • Ltkanew

    First of all I think it is very pretentious of Dr. Boyce Watkins as well as all of the other commenters to assume that Pastor Dollar was speaking of the incident with Bishop Long. That is a stretch when there are TONS of things going on that he could have been making mention of. Come on people there are things going on in the Black church where people are leaving for numerous reasons and church hopping based on emotion does NOT line up with the word of God. It is clear that most of you have things grossly confused when it comes to what the Bible teaches which is how and why you are so easily influenced by social media and so ready to judge the actions of others by pointing the finger, placing blame, making assumptions and stretching the truth. Now, dont jump on what I am saying (again making assumptions) because if the allegations agains Bishop Long are true then it is gross and embarassing for us all and hurtful with life long impacts for the young men involved. BUT…with that being said I think people are looking for ways to jump on every pastor who is the head of what has been coined a MEGA church. I do not beleive that Pastor Dollar was speaking of the Bishop Long incident at all as a matter of fact there are at least four other incidents that I can think of BEFORE the Bishop Long case that are going on in Atlanta that didnt make the news that Pastor Dollar COULD have been making mention of. We all have fallen short (and AGAIN I am NOT talking specifically about the Bishop Long incident) but we have to be able to stop for a moment and think about things in our individual lives where we have in fact had a “wreck”  and we need to be thankful that we had insurance (the Blood of Jesus)…judge not lest you be judged first…and AGAIN I am speaking more about ASSUMING that Pastor Dollar was speaking about Bishop Long…not about what allegedly happened with Bishop Long and the sexual misconduct allegations. 

    • Praying

      Please take your head out of the sand.  Dr. BW is being authentic because Creflo is playing.  Yes Creflo was talking about Eddie Long.  I called World Changers and talked to Creflo’s assistant.  I was so upset that Creflo would be so foolish as to minimize the damage to the young people (the ones that sued and the ones that didnt).  His assistant acknowledged that he was talking about New Birth.  When I said to her “as a former New Birth member he has made it clear that I am not welcome at World Changers”.  Her response was, “no he only meant if you left New Birth just because of the lawsuit.  We have many former New Birth members.”  

      Again, Creflo became cowardly when he received my call and the call from another mother of a victim — we asked for his counsel.  He ignored us and instead had his legal team contact YouTube to take the posted video segment down.

      I AM NOT ASSUMING that Dollar was speaking about Bishop Long…I KNOW THAT HE WAS and the he made light  the sexual misconduct  by calling it a “wreck”.

      • Ttle

        Take MY head out of the sand? Who made Dr. BW the know all end all in journalism? Who made him authentic and Pastor Dollar “playing”?  I also just hung up the phone with World Changers and was told that he in FACT was NOT speaking of the incidences at New Birth! Pastor Dollar was NOT a part of the lawsuit and had the right at any time to voice his opinion on the case. Secondly, I just left the World Changers site and the sermon is not down, go and listen to it for yourself. I apologize if you have been impacted by any sexual misconduct deeds but again I never defended Bishop Long or any of the accusations against him. All I am saying is that people so quickly persecute others before they give them the benefit of the doubt. Did you know that a pastor of another church in Atlanta just this week had people leaving his church because of something he allegedly did (non-sexual)…what I am asking is why could Pastor Dollar not been speaking about HIM why is it that people assume he was talking about Bishop Long. I do not think that Pastor Dollar gave anyone permission to do anything at all..the case I made was very valid because what I am saying is that constitutionally we have the right to be innocent until proven guilty (speaking of Pastor Dollar) so he should be given the benefit of the doubt and if the constitution isn’t case enough for you nothing is.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

          Creflo Do$$ar was playing public relations theatre by telling you poor, naive soul this BS about him not talking about Long…He was not expecting this firestorm to come upon him for his little theatrical performance, so he will call out all the public relations people to make it all go away…Birds of a feather will f**k up together…Do$$ar days are numbered, he will be out of business like Long, in the next few years..Hopefully for him Wal-mart in College Park will be looking for greeters, he can take his boy, muscle shirt Eddie with him when he goes to apply for work…

    • Blackfootlion

      You make it sound as if this is a witch hunt. This case should have gone to trial but unfortunately barrels of money will ALWAYS corrupt people who have none. 25 million “pieces of silver” was paid as hush money so there would be no accountability by this scambag Bishop. So now the victims and their families are “rich” and the truth will never be fully revealed. Consequently “tea baggers” such as Eddie Loooong are allowed to stay in the pulpit and epitomize what is wrong with the Black Church for Profit [not to be confused with the community church that is genuine]. And Creflo [what kind of name is that??] MEGA-dollar simply refers to this atrocity as a wreck? Sounds to me as if MEGA-dollar and Loooong are on the same page since they’re such close friends [check out MEGA-dollor’s wedding band]. If it was your child that was molested by this scambag would you take the money or would you take to the streets!? When will we be the Lions in God’s kingdom and not the sheep? We still suffer from a slave mentality and a position of weakness.  It’s pathetic that so many of Us have a price to keep our mouths shut. Where are the Martins and the Malcolms of today? And if you think MEGA-dollar was not refering to Loooong then please enlighten us.  Perhaps you’re one of his parishioners.

       

    • Blackfootlion

      You make it sound as if this is a witch hunt. This case should have gone to trial but unfortunately barrels of money will ALWAYS corrupt people who have none. 25 million “pieces of silver” was paid as hush money so there would be no accountability by this scambag Bishop. So now the victims and their families are “rich” and the truth will never be fully revealed. Consequently “tea baggers” such as Eddie Loooong are allowed to stay in the pulpit and epitomize what is wrong with the Black Church for Profit [not to be confused with the community church that is genuine]. And Creflo [what kind of name is that??] MEGA-dollar simply refers to this atrocity as a wreck? Sounds to me as if MEGA-dollar and Loooong are on the same page since they’re such close friends [check out MEGA-dollor’s wedding band]. If it was your child that was molested by this scambag would you take the money or would you take to the streets!? When will we be the Lions in God’s kingdom and not the sheep? We still suffer from a slave mentality and a position of weakness.  It’s pathetic that so many of Us have a price to keep our mouths shut. Where are the Martins and the Malcolms of today? And if you think MEGA-dollar was not refering to Loooong then please enlighten us.  Perhaps you’re one of his parishioners.

       

      • God’s Creation

        Your comment is “BIASED” too!

    • Blackfootlion

      You make it sound as if this is a witch hunt. This case should have gone to trial but unfortunately barrels of money will ALWAYS corrupt people who have none. 25 million “pieces of silver” was paid as hush money so there would be no accountability by this scambag Bishop. So now the victims and their families are “rich” and the truth will never be fully revealed. Consequently “tea baggers” such as Eddie Loooong are allowed to stay in the pulpit and epitomize what is wrong with the Black Church for Profit [not to be confused with the community church that is genuine]. And Creflo [what kind of name is that??] MEGA-dollar simply refers to this atrocity as a wreck? Sounds to me as if MEGA-dollar and Loooong are on the same page since they’re such close friends [check out MEGA-dollor’s wedding band]. If it was your child that was molested by this scambag would you take the money or would you take to the streets!? When will we be the Lions in God’s kingdom and not the sheep? We still suffer from a slave mentality and a position of weakness.  It’s pathetic that so many of Us have a price to keep our mouths shut. Where are the Martins and the Malcolms of today? And if you think MEGA-dollar was not refering to Loooong then please enlighten us.  Perhaps you’re one of his parishioners.

       

    • CW

       Then who else was Creflo Dollar talking about?

  • http://www.musicdiva.com Richie1045

    I think it’s very unfortunate that “Bishop” Eddie Long turned out to be like this. He used to be one of my favorite preachers. I though he was the real deal. But what the heck made him think that he could get away with abusing these young boys. And just to think he was so anti-gay! These seem to be the main ones that are on the down low! Certainly abusing young boys is REAL low. However, no one is perfect and I believe in redemption. I believe that every one deserves a second chance in life.

    However, I never could never understand why a man in his position could risk so much for so little. Was his lust for young boys so strong that he was willing to throw away everything? Wow! The power of sick sexual behaviour. Let us all learn from the Bishop’s experience and not let sexual desire control our lives. After all, who wants to risk prison and financial ruin just to get off?

    • Blackfootlion

      Let’s be very clear, this predatory LEECH that parades as a Bishop is not going to prison and he’s not financially ruined. 25 million is a drop in the bucket to these false prophets [profits] and there’s plenty more where that came from because WE NEVER hold anyone accountable. We don’t protect our children (evidenced by the obscene number of young Black males shot by the police and those packed in the prison like sardines).  Nothing will ever change until WE as a people wake up, rise up and STOP turning the other cheek!  Just a side note ; even though O.J. was aquitted everyone believed that he was still guilty and the powers were RELENTLESS until he got 30 years for a charge that should have got him 5. That’s how WE need to be .. RELENTLESS until those that shhit on us are held accountable.

    • Blackfootlion

      Let’s be very clear, this predatory LEECH that parades as a Bishop is not going to prison and he’s not financially ruined. 25 million is a drop in the bucket to these false prophets [profits] and there’s plenty more where that came from because WE NEVER hold anyone accountable. We don’t protect our children (evidenced by the obscene number of young Black males shot by the police and those packed in the prison like sardines).  Nothing will ever change until WE as a people wake up, rise up and STOP turning the other cheek!  Just a side note ; even though O.J. was aquitted everyone believed that he was still guilty and the powers were RELENTLESS until he got 30 years for a charge that should have got him 5. That’s how WE need to be .. RELENTLESS until those that shhit on us are held accountable.

      • God’s Creation

        I agree with you, but it was slightly less effective with the profanity.

    • God’s Creation

      Bishop Long was weak spiritually…obviously. Also it is obvious that his church DID NOT keep him in prayer on an ongoing basis. 

      It is easy to condemn, but Christians do not even pray, read the Bible, practice or are really committed to Christianity. It is just a good title. I am researching and the Barna Research Group has proven that only 0.005 (1/2 of a %) of Christians ever reach full maturity based on Loving God and Loving Men (the 2 commandments that the New Testament is based on.) and what Jesus said “we must do.”

    • sheba

      not to condone what long did or didnt do but those boys was young men all over the age of 18 and they took money and cars .they were not little boys so what does that make them?

  • Cordelljs

    From One Pimp To Another!

  • catherine

    Preachers and Politics (One)
    by Catherinebutterfly

    Preaching, preachers, pastors and politics
    My folks always said it didn’t mix.
    …Not preaching and participating in politics I think was one of the devils greatest tricks.Tricking the mouth to stay seal is something to do For a preachers mouth either blesses you or curses you. WE WRESTLE NOT WITH FLESH AND BLOOD*We wrestle with the demons in the enemy headI know because they transfer them into my ancestors headAs they pounded them into their spirits until they was almost deadSeems like this was the only time the tongues didn’t’ wagThis is so sad it drives me mad.Power in the tongue is life or death It’s a thang that no man can tame Had the preachers that preached been into politic The word could have been spread,Would have been spread,God’s word would have been heardGod’s Kingdom Come would have been said.Instead they believed those with a PROUD LOOK, A LYING TONGUES.*

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

      You need to start taking your medication, stay away from anything with a cross on it, and take deep breaths…You sound like a raving lunatic who need to take two shots of Jack Daniels straight..This is the insane psycho babble bullshit we will hear from people who call themselves religious..A political/financial gimick made up by a set of cave dwellers, hereby refer to as whitey and practiced by another set of slaves, hereby called religious ho’s…You’ll dont get tired of being screwed by these prosperity pimps who dont even use condoms and will not apply the K-Y Jel before they take the plunge?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

      You need to start taking your medication, stay away from anything with a cross on it, and take deep breaths…You sound like a raving lunatic who need to take two shots of Jack Daniels straight..This is the insane psycho babble bullshit we will hear from people who call themselves religious..A political/financial gimick made up by a set of cave dwellers, hereby refer to as whitey and practiced by another set of slaves, hereby called religious ho’s…You’ll dont get tired of being screwed by these prosperity pimps who dont even use condoms and will not apply the K-Y Jel before they take the plunge?

      • God’s Creation

        You are going to hell if you do not repent. God created you! These men are NOT GOD. You are a filthy SWINE!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

          Yeah whatever, birds of a feather F**k together oh, I mean flock together…LOL…You need to fill your prozac priscription you long winded bag of s**t…Your god/dog dont have dominion to condem me to any heaven or hell…Get back on your med’s, this street corner hustle you’re running does not impress me…The only swine is you with all your pig’s feet, collard green, hog guts eating self…I keep telling you’ll to stay away from all crosses, you usually find them in places of the dead, graveyards and churchs….

        • Beverly Goodwin

          Since you wrap your lips around pork.  You are what you eat.  Who are you calling Filthy Swine?

        • Beverly Goodwin

          Since you wrap your lips around pork.  You are what you eat.  Who are you calling Filthy Swine?

      • God’s Creation

        You are going to hell if you do not repent. God created you! These men are NOT GOD. You are a filthy SWINE!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

      You need to start taking your medication, stay away from anything with a cross on it, and take deep breaths…You sound like a raving lunatic who need to take two shots of Jack Daniels straight..This is the insane psycho babble bullshit we will hear from people who call themselves religious..A political/financial gimick made up by a set of cave dwellers, hereby refer to as whitey and practiced by another set of slaves, hereby called religious ho’s…You’ll dont get tired of being screwed by these prosperity pimps who dont even use condoms and will not apply the K-Y Jel before they take the plunge?

  • rev. whitehead

    Preachers and Politics (Three) by Catherinebutterfly
    Preaching, preacher, pastors and politics
    my folks says it’s does not mix
    but I know that’s one of the devil trips
    Lard comes by here, I heard them say.
    He came but they didn’t hear
    All brain washed. All stupidified, all filled with lies.
    Didn’t stop at four hundred years.
    Love your enemy as yourself not the word of Jesus
    Not what he said.
    He said resist him, flee from him,
    Pray not to me for him. *
    Satan’s first goal in keeping the preacher
    Out of politic is to keep our people blind.
    From all truth.
    His job in all of this was to destroy us as a people.
    Keeping us to do what he wants us too.
    Our job is to expose him for what he is.
    The father of lies our folks didn’t’ do it then
    And ain’t exposing him now.
    Instead they all run to the church on Sunday
    Crying Lard don’t pass us by.
    They sing that slave song almost everywhere.
    Ain’t heard a thing the Truth said.
    Cause the Lord ain’t ever left us
    We block him with our stupidity and
    Misunderstanding of the Word of Truth.
    We have yet to learn the truth and what to do.

    Professing Christians I hear them say
    Yet daily they throw the Truth away.
    Come by here Lard, come by here

    I never understood this and never will.
    The Lord lives within me, you and them
    If they know him, if they will allow him,
    The Lord doesn’t’ force his will,
    Never have and never will.
    Listening to them they don’t even know him.
    Don’t even respect him, believe him, fooling
    themselves they leave this world never truly
    embracing him. partly because of preaching
    preachers afraid of politics.

    Preachers and Politics (Three) by Catherinebutterfly

  • rev. whitehead

    What did Jesus Preach? When Jesus came a preachingHe came speaking from aboveWhen Jesus came a preaching He preached with mighty love. The time is fulfilled The kingdom of God is at hand.It’s time you grab a hold of the truth and People take a stand, Letting go of the worldAnd live Godly is the blessing to man. I have come to give you the truth That will save humankindTake you out of the wilderness That’s keeping you blind. Repent, and believe in the gospel.Jesus taught  It’s time to stop sinning, It’s time to do a new walk.It’s time for repenting.It’s time to Believe and you will receive.  What did Jesus Preach? two  As He delivered His messageEars opened and eyes clearedHis followers rose without a problem at allThey heard the voice of the MasterThey heard their names being called.It was time to believe His message It was time to prepare for The soon coming kingdom of God.As Jesus taught, God sat watching from across the wayAs Jesus spoke of the Great Day.. The people was hard of hearing And paid Him no never mindSo many came before Him butThey thought He to was lying. What was it that Jesus taught?  It was time man acknowledge that all had sinnedAnd fallen below the glory of God.Transgressed the Ten Commandments, God’s law.Express sorrow, and repugnance at man’s sin.All the ugliness done by the working of menIt was now time for the foolishness to end.. What was it that Jesus taught?  Three What was it that Jesus taught?He taught that man must hate sin Hate it so much that he would turn from it, But alone man could not just quitCome He said give it meI’d help you begin to live a new life without that sin. If you but come and walk with me.all your sadness and pain can endWhat was it that Jesus taught? He taught the order in which man much walk.Repentance is what He said to them.Same as John the Baptist hadThe difference was one held the power and The other showed the way. First they was told what Repentance means A Committing with God’s help To change lives. To start anew.

  • rev. whitehead

    What did Jesus Preach? When Jesus came a preachingHe came speaking from aboveWhen Jesus came a preaching He preached with mighty love. The time is fulfilled The kingdom of God is at hand.It’s time you grab a hold of the truth and People take a stand, Letting go of the worldAnd live Godly is the blessing to man. I have come to give you the truth That will save humankindTake you out of the wilderness That’s keeping you blind. Repent, and believe in the gospel.Jesus taught  It’s time to stop sinning, It’s time to do a new walk.It’s time for repenting.It’s time to Believe and you will receive.  What did Jesus Preach? two  As He delivered His messageEars opened and eyes clearedHis followers rose without a problem at allThey heard the voice of the MasterThey heard their names being called.It was time to believe His message It was time to prepare for The soon coming kingdom of God.As Jesus taught, God sat watching from across the wayAs Jesus spoke of the Great Day.. The people was hard of hearing And paid Him no never mindSo many came before Him butThey thought He to was lying. What was it that Jesus taught?  It was time man acknowledge that all had sinnedAnd fallen below the glory of God.Transgressed the Ten Commandments, God’s law.Express sorrow, and repugnance at man’s sin.All the ugliness done by the working of menIt was now time for the foolishness to end..  What was it that Jesus taught?  Three  What was it that Jesus taught?He taught that man must hate sin Hate it so much that he would turn from it, But alone man could not just quitCome He said give it meI’d help you begin to live a new life without that sin. If you but come and walk with me.all your sadness and pain can end  What was it that Jesus taught? He taught the order in which man much walk.Repentance is what He said to them.Same as John the Baptist hadThe difference was one held the power and The other showed the way. First they was told what Repentance means A Committing with God’s help To change lives. To start anew.

    • God’s Creation

      I agree with you some, but your post was so long that I was not encouraged, nor had the time to read it all!

    • Beverly Goodwin

      Question.  How many commandments are in the Bible and this is not a trick quest6ion.

    • Beverly Goodwin

      Jesus sinned.  He broke the Sabbath.

    • Beverly Goodwin

      Jesus sinned.  He broke the Sabbath.

  • rev. whitehead

    What did Jesus Preach? When Jesus came a preachingHe came speaking from aboveWhen Jesus came a preaching He preached with mighty love. The time is fulfilled The kingdom of God is at hand.It’s time you grab a hold of the truth and People take a stand, Letting go of the worldAnd live Godly is the blessing to man. I have come to give you the truth That will save humankindTake you out of the wilderness That’s keeping you blind. Repent, and believe in the gospel.Jesus taught  It’s time to stop sinning, It’s time to do a new walk.It’s time for repenting.It’s time to Believe and you will receive.  What did Jesus Preach? two  As He delivered His messageEars opened and eyes clearedHis followers rose without a problem at allThey heard the voice of the MasterThey heard their names being called.It was time to believe His message It was time to prepare for The soon coming kingdom of God.As Jesus taught, God sat watching from across the wayAs Jesus spoke of the Great Day.. The people was hard of hearing And paid Him no never mindSo many came before Him butThey thought He to was lying. What was it that Jesus taught?  It was time man acknowledge that all had sinnedAnd fallen below the glory of God.Transgressed the Ten Commandments, God’s law.Express sorrow, and repugnance at man’s sin.All the ugliness done by the working of menIt was now time for the foolishness to end..  What was it that Jesus taught?  Three  What was it that Jesus taught?He taught that man must hate sin Hate it so much that he would turn from it, But alone man could not just quitCome He said give it meI’d help you begin to live a new life without that sin. If you but come and walk with me.all your sadness and pain can end  What was it that Jesus taught? He taught the order in which man much walk.Repentance is what He said to them.Same as John the Baptist hadThe difference was one held the power and The other showed the way. First they was told what Repentance means A Committing with God’s help To change lives. To start anew.

  • Ajax381

    No one has mentioned the hypocrisy factor here. Eddie Long for years has been the most outspoken homophobic preachers out there. He used his pulpit to condem the LGBT community to hell. He preached against gay marriage and attacked LGBT members in the most vicious ways. Now, he’s exposed as using his influence to rape young Black boys. Long is a hypocritical pederast and should be condemned, not defended, in the harshest of words.

  • Anonymous

    Once again black America consider the source and if my memory serves me right Creflo Dollar is the same and exact person that said people that don’t pay church tithes should be shot.

    Eddie long and Creflo dollar together are not worth 4 farts into a night jar.

    Sincerely, Enoch Mubarak
    President/CEO Mubarak Inter-prizes
    http://www.mubarakinter-prizes.com

    • God’s Creation

      Do you give to God’s program? People, even ministers say crazy stuff.  We cannot look at the man, but to God, but I would not accept teachings from a minister who does not practice biblical principles. 

      • Anisha P.

        Giving to God’s program is one thing, but giving to the preacher’s personal finances is another.  It is shameful how often the pastor is living large while his congregation inliving in poverty.  The church’s program, and money given to it, is not for the pastor to help himself, but for him to help it’s congregation and surrounding community. 

        And yes, we are to listen for the word and not look at the man.  But we are flawed, unlike God, making that hard to do sometimes.   That is why the bible says, essentially, that you should not o what will turn others from him.  As a member of a congregation, my saying the whole “should be shot” statement wouldn’t matter to most.  But when the preacher, of a mega church, says, he potentially turns hundreds away from God.  That comment and longs alleged actions, turn hundreds even thousands from God. As ther shepard, you should aim not to cause your flock to stumble.  And if you can’t -shown by crazy statements and alleged criminal and deeply immoral actions – you should step down.  B/c it’s not about bringing money to you, but souls to Christ.

      • Anisha P.

        Giving to God’s program is one thing, but giving to the preacher’s personal finances is another.  It is shameful how often the pastor is living large while his congregation inliving in poverty.  The church’s program, and money given to it, is not for the pastor to help himself, but for him to help it’s congregation and surrounding community. 

        And yes, we are to listen for the word and not look at the man.  But we are flawed, unlike God, making that hard to do sometimes.   That is why the bible says, essentially, that you should not o what will turn others from him.  As a member of a congregation, my saying the whole “should be shot” statement wouldn’t matter to most.  But when the preacher, of a mega church, says, he potentially turns hundreds away from God.  That comment and longs alleged actions, turn hundreds even thousands from God. As ther shepard, you should aim not to cause your flock to stumble.  And if you can’t -shown by crazy statements and alleged criminal and deeply immoral actions – you should step down.  B/c it’s not about bringing money to you, but souls to Christ.

        • CW

          Great comment Anisha. 

      • CW

        What does it mean when you ask, do you give to God’s program? 

        People who aren’t leaders of a church ARE allowed to say whatever they want, because they haven’t put themselves in a position of responsibility.

        These mega preachers aren’t allowed the same lax attitude.  They have an ethical responsibility to act and speak responsibly because they are preaching about God and the teachings of Jesus Christ…right?

        Creflo Dollar stated that he thinks ‘people who don’t pay church tithes should be shot’.  Hmmmm, what do you think he meant when he said that?   This doesn’t sound like the holy word of God to me.

        It would appear that Creflo Dollar is not only an irresponsible person, but an immoral one as well.

      • http://www.facebook.com/chris.bernard2 Chris Bernard

        Do think  it is the will of  god  that eddie long is exposed?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CCRH35NOGTO2VUJ5P2U3NSBUOY ReginaG

    Praises and prayers for poverty pimps and hypocrisy to the nth degree is very appalling. I don’t trust preachers as far as G’d can throw them.

     You’re right on target Shaka Zulu.

    • God’s Creation

      The Bible says to trust God, so what is your point. Shaka Zula is filthy and going to hell if he/she doesn’t change. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

        You dont have a heaven or hell to put me into…That’s the beauty of what whitey has done for black folks with this thing called christianity and religion…He let you think that all manner of terrible things can be done to you by him and all will be forgive by god (dog spell backward, whitey’s best friend) if you beg for forgiveness and is covered in the blood…Yeah the blood of all the black and brown bodies used to build their western empire…Which one of the god’s will forgive you, the little one jesus or the big god? Which version of the bible are you using? Whitey and his cannabilism telling you to simulate eating the flesh and drinking the blood called communion…You will go to your churchs and cry over some white boy name jesus dying on a cross for you black azzes, while your next door neighbor is crying because pimp daddy pastor asked her to use her light bill money as a love offering…You can paint this jesus blacker than thirty midnights, your first intorduction to this image was as a white man and until the day you die, you will always invision a white man for jesus..This is how powerful the brain computer and branding an image is, whitey has captured your souls and have you’ll as his eternal slaves following and using his religion and book..I hope the kool aid is sweet, look out for the bitter almond taste, that’s the cyanide your tasting…Sweet dreams, your jesus is waiting on the otherside…

        • Beverly Goodwin

          They were taught that predators oops preachers are good people and the bible do tell you to pray for your preachers.  This is where the fallacy of christian trust falls in.

        • Beverly Goodwin

          Don’ forget the teaching of “VAMPIRISM”,  xtians love the blood of jesus. xtians love to “CANNABALIZE” the body of jesus.

        • Beverly Goodwin

          Don’ forget the teaching of “VAMPIRISM”,  xtians love the blood of jesus. xtians love to “CANNABALIZE” the body of jesus.

      • Beverly Goodwin

        And like you, both you and I will be at the gates of hell.  Who made you G’d in the first place?  You are an idol worshipper, you eat pork and you cannot follow the first two of the 10 commandments.

        So who are you to call names plantation negro

      • Beverly Goodwin

        You have just contradicted yourself.  After all the true definition of christianity is “idiot.”

        I believe in G’d not you, your preachers, your lying religion, your idols, your contradiction, not anything you hold near and dear.  So I suggest that you go somewhere and sit down before you get your feelings hurt.

  • Haywoodfennell

    There is a growing problem with the so-called mega-churches and those that call themselves “leaders of that kind of facility.” It is a shame that instead of providing a quasi  sermon of support, there should have been a call to tell why the money so solely needed to possibly resolve other issues was spent not to tell. We need more teachers than preachers, plus these mega churches and their leaders in most cases worry more about themselves than those they preach to. I believe that these preachers that have twisted the Bible to suit their respective needs will bust hell wide open.

  • Anonymous

    Dr. Boyce you have to understand your Bible Sir if you read it or believe in it. First and foremost Sin is Sin and if you ask God to forgive you of your Sin then only God can do that and put that Sin under the blood of Jesus Christ. Now I’m not saying what Bishop was doing is right and you don’t have a lincense to Sin. As a Christian, but if we do Sin (whatever) it may be that’s the benefit of being a Christian in relationship with your Father that you cango to Him and Confess and repent of our Sins.  So shame on you for trying to make my Brothers (Bishop & Dollar) look bad.
     
    Because if you ever had or have a (Sin) wreck in your walk, which I’m almost certain you have, because all have Sin and come short of His glory, you would want Him to forgive you also.
     
    Sincerely,
     
    Bishop-Elect Dr. K. W. Johnson
    Houston, TX

  • Anonymous

    Dr. Boyce you have to understand your Bible Sir if you read it or believe in it. First and foremost Sin is Sin and if you ask God to forgive you of your Sin then only God can do that and put that Sin under the blood of Jesus Christ. Now I’m not saying what Bishop was doing is right and you don’t have a lincense to Sin. As a Christian, but if we do Sin (whatever) it may be that’s the benefit of being a Christian in relationship with your Father that you cango to Him and Confess and repent of our Sins.  So shame on you for trying to make my Brothers (Bishop & Dollar) look bad.
     
    Because if you ever had or have a (Sin) wreck in your walk, which I’m almost certain you have, because all have Sin and come short of His glory, you would want Him to forgive you also.
     
    Sincerely,
     
    Bishop-Elect Dr. K. W. Johnson
    Houston, TX

  • Anonymous

    Dr. Boyce you have to understand your Bible Sir if you read it or believe in it. First and foremost Sin is Sin and if you ask God to forgive you of your Sin then only God can do that and put that Sin under the blood of Jesus Christ. Now I’m not saying what Bishop was doing is right and you don’t have a lincense to Sin. As a Christian, but if we do Sin (whatever) it may be that’s the benefit of being a Christian in relationship with your Father that you cango to Him and Confess and repent of our Sins.  So shame on you for trying to make my Brothers (Bishop & Dollar) look bad.
     
    Because if you ever had or have a (Sin) wreck in your walk, which I’m almost certain you have, because all have Sin and come short of His glory, you would want Him to forgive you also.
     
    Sincerely,
     
    Bishop-Elect Dr. K. W. Johnson
    Houston, TX

    • timoce

      Bishop,

      Not sure if you understand your Bible correctly.  Clearly, Dr. Boyce is not in journalism to make “your brothers” look bad, but to present news, whether factual or not, as all journalists.  Now as for the Word of God, even scripture states that God will spew out luke warm (carmel) Christians, such as condemning and conflicting pastors like Bishop Eddie Long.  How dare he preach against homosexuality and participate in such acts, and how dare you (BISHOP), to minimize his predatorial acts with the FORGIVING OF SIN game?  So many people have been hurt by the accusations (whether true or false) of these young men AND the covering up that leaders in the church have done.  What about Bishop Eddie Long’s wife and kids?  What about single mothers who trusted Bishop with their son’s? What about the confused followers of Bishop?  You, sir, MAN of GOD, need not speak of other pastors whether in the pulpit or on blogs, but pray for them silently, and help hurting souls openly.  The mess that grown men create and place blame on children is a true sign of weakness and a recipe of disaster.  I remember growing up and people never spoke bad about the church and had enough respect to not even drink on the church steps or rob it, but with the corruption in the church now, why not bring the rest of the worldly things in it too?  Please, BISHOP, rethink your stance before you too self destruct.

      • Anonymous

        Sir you need to understand something very clear here, I’m standing  with Bishop E. Lond, again I say Sin is Sin and Wrong is Wrong. He’s dead wrong about these things, but helike any other Christian who falls short can again Confess and Repent of their Sins.  A luke warm status in Christ isnot good, but the can to re-ignite their flame and become Hot.

        And timoce I have a Relationship with Christ and my brothers and sisters in Christ are just that my brothers and sisters, not those who try to tare down the body of Christ, no matter what their profession is.

        If I should fall or wreck I have an advacate with my Father that I can go to the blood of Jesus Christ and ask for those forgiveness, will I pay for those Sins, of course and will someone else hurt from my Sins, why yes.

        That’s why we as Christians should die daily to ourselves, and so should you and others who have a self righteous spirit to not forgive men and women of God who fall short.  So you Confess and Repent of your attitude for you Self-Destruct by putting your mouth on God’s annointed.

        • DrWhite

          If you stand with Eddie Long, can you remind me when he confessed and repented?  Because that is what YOU said was required. 

          • Makeme4the

            We don’t have to hear it!!

          • Makeme4the

            We don’t have to hear it!!

          • Anonymous

            I stand with my Brothers and Sisters in Christ first of all and I nor you know when anyone confesses or repent unless we see and hear them openly. As a Christian when you pray secretly in your prayer closet, He will reward you openly. Let’s do just that PRAY for all who have fallen short and watch our God show up and show out.

            Remember this God will have the last say in all we do and say. That’s why I pratice Christianity….

            Bless are the pure in heart for they shall see God, let’s purify our hearts, because if we are busy doing this you might not fall into sin, but should you do  Confess, means acknowledgement, and the Repent, means to turn away from and not do again.

            Be Bless!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Olin-Ross/546574576 Olin Ross

            I concur……The problem with some people they are trying to be God…..Only God & Bishop Long know what happen….God will take care of his own even to reprimand…

          • CW

            Great comment and question Dr. White!

        • Pcblst

          You sound like the Jewish people who believe they are the chosen of God because of a promise to Abraham. No matter how much they sin an turn from God they are still the “chosen people”.  I don’t buy it.

        • timoce

          So Bishop, are you saying that Bishop Long does not have to confess his sins openly?  He didn’t just hurt those boys, but he hurt his church as well.  So many people were left confused.  He has a responsibility to apologize to the church and to tell the truth.  Before you go to God for repentence, you have to first get it right with your brother.  I know you know the scripture and you know it’s in there too.  I personally believe that for you to attack the journalist is doing nothing but cosigning the sins of a man.  The journalist is just reporting, and they tend to give their opinions as everyone else on here making comments is doing.  Yes Sin is Sin, but blatantly refusing to admit it is even worse.  If Bishop Long is your brother in Christ as you have reminded us that he is so, then help him and show him that what he is continuing to do is wrong.  I do pray that he finds his way back to Christ before it’s too late. 

      • God’s Creation

        My question:  What are you doing for the Kingdom? Is your lifestyle representing God and Christ. If not…there are 2 standards. The Bible says you either belong to God or the Devil. Journalists or anyone writing is always “biased”. Look when Obama was running, you could usually tell which journalists were for him and which were not. Remember, you too will be help accountable before God. The Bible says “the church will judge the world in the last days”, not the world judge the church.  Get involved so the church can win back its respect, or just SIT like most people and do nothing!

      • God’s Creation

        My question:  What are you doing for the Kingdom? Is your lifestyle representing God and Christ. If not…there are 2 standards. The Bible says you either belong to God or the Devil. Journalists or anyone writing is always “biased”. Look when Obama was running, you could usually tell which journalists were for him and which were not. Remember, you too will be help accountable before God. The Bible says “the church will judge the world in the last days”, not the world judge the church.  Get involved so the church can win back its respect, or just SIT like most people and do nothing!

        • timoce

          I practice my faith everyday!! I will admit that I am not perfect and I know that all man sin, and I am a sinner that have repented.  I don’t look to persecute Bishop Long and I have been in prayer and continue to pray for the hurt that has been caused in this situation.  I just don’t agree with others standing in support of a sin just because all men have sinned.  I do know that no sin is greater than the other, but continuing to hurt people is just not acceptable.  People can say I’m judging all they want, but the truth is the truth.

      • Makeme4the

        Lets slow down, we do not know all the details as to what really went on, nor do we know who Dollar was talking about. Also, the bible does not measure sin, just because Long has a title, his sin is no greater then yours or mine. So whatever happened and whoever Dollar is talking about is still able to go before the thorne of Grace and ask for forgiveness whatever the SIN is. “We all fall short” that is just a fact, and we need to ask for forgiveness dailey.

      • http://www.perspectives-anotherwaytoview.blogspot.com Carolyn Moon

        Continue to stand in truth timoce for what you say is true and a reality for many of us who have been reared in churches that always used the
        “forgive the sinner theme” to allow or promote the fleecing of the flock and
        the sexual misconduct of the so-called “Shepherds”. 

        You and CW have encapsulated a very complex and emotional subject in terms that we can all understand and in a way that can’t be intelligently refuted.  For those who don’t agree; again it’s the same old he who is without sin and forgiveness concept which is true but the flock can forgive and not allow the perpetrator to again be in the position to SIN AGAIN.
        This line of thinking favors the ministers not the people that they have harmed or traumatized because of their misdeeds. “Bishop” Long should find another line of work and get some spiritual counseling and intensive rehab. for his pedophilia tendencies. In his arrogance–an apology or sincere one hasn’t been heard yet by his followers and those who are observing this mess unfold in the public arena.

        • timoce

          Ms. Moon,

          This is exactly what I was talking about.  What Bishop Johnson is trying to do is declare that we are judging Bishop Long and condemning him for what he has done.  The Bible states: Judge not lest Ye be judged in the same manner.  Too many people pick at the Word of God to defend their own ignorance.  I say Judge me where I stand because I know that I am not perfect but striving to uphold the Word of God in my daily walk.  Now, what I will not do is be hypocritical by teaching what sin is and yet operate in the manner of what I’m teaching against; and anyone who supports a man to do just that is hypocritical and cannot be trusted.  The Bible also states to Confess your sins one to another.  That excludes the prayer closest in this matter.  It burns me up to see leaders cosigning on ignorance.  This is exactly why Bishop Long fell short anyway because too many leaders turned the other way.  You can’t possibly say there was NO spirituality in his church.  I know someone knew what was going on behind closed doors because God does give warning before destruction, and as a Man of God, Bishop Long chose to ignore the warning; and until he OPENLY apologizes to his members, he is still going to continue to fall short of the glory of God; and this is not me stating this, it’s in the word.  I’ll post scriptures shortly.

        • CW

          It’s my turn to give you an Amen Carolyn.  Love the first sentence of your last paragraph especially.  Very well put!

    • God’s Creation

      You are right in your comments.I do not like it when people who are NOT  committed to God try to condemn those who are. 

    • sheba

      dr. boyce is not making them look bad they are bad and wrong in their doings and saying it is not god word they make it their word .it is one thing to sin another thing tobe a sinner.a sinner practice sin.

    • CW

      To Bishop-Elect, etc:  Seriously?  We’re talking the molestation of innocent children here! 

      It’s disgusting you would even defend Eddie Long of such an evil act.  It’s bad enough that he fleeces his congregation; now they’re allowed to physically rape and abuse them too?

      I’m not sure I agree with ‘only God has the right to judge’ thing.  It seems that refrain has been used to fleece the innocents out of their money AND self reliance for generations.

      Secondly, I personally disagree with preachers (bishops or whatever) living off  money the congregation donates to the church.   My money can be put to better use.

      Lastly, I would not allow a flawed human being to be MY personal pipeline to God – seriously.  I can call on God myself AND for free!

      • Anonymous

        CW, Sir I’m not “defending” Bishop E. Long, I’m defending all of my brothers and sisters in Christ, but by your writing I have to ask, are you in Christ? No one should have to be treated in that manner at all no matter who they are.  But when you say things like “fleece” his congregation, wow, I thought many are pretty educated to know when they are being “fleeced.”  And when you say you’re not sure you agree that God  has the right to “Judge”, son he’s the only one that can put your butt in a hell or heaven. Again you say”fleece” educated saints out of their money, and preachers living off of their money, yea it sounds like you’re not one of the saints. Because if you were one, some things you would know and be doing if you had a good church home and pastor. You could never “pay” for the true blessings of God by being under a true man or woman of God Sir. How can you hear, except by a preacher, and they are called by God.

        Read the Word, you might like it, and learn from it, and one day become what you read!

        • CW

          First of all, YOU don’t know my relationship with God. It’s not your right or anyone else’s to judge my relationship with God…right? 

          Secondly, it is appalling that preachers like yourself haven’t spoken up for the victims that have been abused – why is that?

          I do believe their will be retribution for all of the so called leaders of the church that have FLEECED their congregations, lied and abused them.

          I believe in spirituality, not in another human being TELLING ME that I need to get right with God.

          With all of your boxed religion, what have you given to the human race?  What is it that you have to offer?

          You’re just another bishop looking for a church to FLEECE an unsuspecting congregation out of their hard earned money.  How much will YOU demand they tithe?

        • CW

           Oh, I forgot to mention. I don’t NEED a preacher to have a relationship with God.  Since when is it required that I need a middle man?

          Also, I like what I am already, thank you.  I acquiesce, that there is always room for improvement, but generally I like the person that I’ve grown up to be.

          I’m a loving wife to a wonderful husband of 18 years.  Three beautiful sons whom my husband and I have raised to be responsible human beings and not to judge others based on race, RELIGION and color.

          I don’t just pray for things to change, I try to help make things better.  Praying is good, ACTION is better.

          Again, I ask, what kind of preacher are you?  Anyone can recite the scriptures and spew the kind of nonsense you do, but it seems that few are actually nonjudgmental, good and just.

        • Beverly Goodwin

          Explain this “lie” to me.  Why do we and I mean black people need to worship a middle man in order to receive absolution of sins and blessings from G-d? 

          Why do you continue to use the white man’s weapon of black enslavement to enslave your own people?

      • Anonymous

        CW, Sir I’m not “defending” Bishop E. Long, I’m defending all of my brothers and sisters in Christ, but by your writing I have to ask, are you in Christ? No one should have to be treated in that manner at all no matter who they are.  But when you say things like “fleece” his congregation, wow, I thought many are pretty educated to know when they are being “fleeced.”  And when you say you’re not sure you agree that God  has the right to “Judge”, son he’s the only one that can put your butt in a hell or heaven. Again you say”fleece” educated saints out of their money, and preachers living off of their money, yea it sounds like you’re not one of the saints. Because if you were one, some things you would know and be doing if you had a good church home and pastor. You could never “pay” for the true blessings of God by being under a true man or woman of God Sir. How can you hear, except by a preacher, and they are called by God.

        Read the Word, you might like it, and learn from it, and one day become what you read!

      • http://www.perspectives-anotherwaytoview.blogspot.com Carolyn Moon

        AMEN…AMEN…AMEN

    • Ms. Ladyaziza

      Is this really about God forgiving someone, ( Eddie Long or whomever) his sins, or is it about someone abusing his power and authority? In my opinion a person put in a position of authority and trust, who has the power to effectivly change and shape the lives of  children for the good or the bad, has to be held to the highest standard. Yes everyone sins. Everyone falls short, but taking advantage of the impressionable, weak and vaulnerable is the ultimate abuse of power and authority. 

      Forgiveness is between the sinner and his lord, but who in their right mind would trust a person like that again? Example: you have 64 thousand dollars. Would you let your crackhead cousin, or your uncle with a gambling problem hold it for you? Let alone your children, who are supposed to be more precious than gold??

      Anyone who can condone this is hoodwinked and needs to get really clear on what they believe and who they choose to follow. I’m just saying.

  • Joia

    Birds of a feather, flock together.  We don’t all worship the same God;
    and the god of the super greedy is probably their last name, versus the
    God in heaven.  It’s all about the dolla bill yall. 

  • Brook

    It seems that all good pimps love to stand together.  Perhaps they need to form a union or something. 

    • God’s Creation

      You had better be careful what you say? We may not agree with these ministers, who are men, but God chose them. Many great people in the Bible had a tainted past. (David: murderer, adulterer, etc). In Jesus’ linage is a prostitute.Ruth, who a book of the Bible is named after, was involved in child sacrificing.  Jacob, who is the father of the 12 tribes of Israel, threw their brother Joseph down a well because they were jealous of him and saw their father grieve for many years because he thought Joseph was dead. But in God’s plan, the 12 brothers have a special place and assignment in Heaven. What is your assignment on earth in God’s plan or how about when you stand before Jesus?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

        Learn your bible history in the correct chronology before you go mouthing off ignorance..I’m not christian and I know that Jacob/Israel had twelve sons, the two favorites, Joseph and Benjamin were bourne with his wife Rachel and he Jacob, had nothing to do with Joseph being thrown down the well…It was Joseph’s brothers who were jealous of him and the affection their father had for him and Benjamin, children of his beloved wife Rachel that he workd the extra years to marry…This is how people are mislead who are not learned in biblical scriptures, when we have people like you giving out misinformation…

  • Olivier sanon

    Now that we are at the end times where we should listening for sounds not for signs anymore because all of them are too obvious, here are pastors, people that call themselves men of God are proning immorality by supporting peops that can back in up in case he got in dirties out in the public.
    Where is Apostle Paul, Peter these who didnt fear to stand for the cause of the Gospel.
    OMG what more can we take from these bloodsuckers, moneymaking, blind-to-word and suffering of others’ people.

  • Steve

    Birds of a feather, flock together!

  • A32st

    I agree with Pastor Dollar!!!

  • Gdgg

    And you wonder why I’m glad to be an agnostic/atheist

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Potter/1017505468 Edward Potter

    I’m against authoritarian church leadership. The Church should be able to know the facts and know the character of a leader in the church. An independent board should be able to ascertain the facts and be reassured to their satisfaction that he did no wrong here. It looks like the complete opposite, in this case and in any other of these charismatic mega churches.

    I think Jesus would have sent this man on a road trip with his sandals and a loaf of bread.

  • Meanchick

    Sin? He violated children! That’s a crime! He sentenced those young men to a life of hurt, shame, confusion and depression. They will NEVER be right! Some of you call it a ‘sin’ and say he should be forgiven. He didn’t admit ti anything! He settled to keep his “sins” from going public If he is a true man of God, he should confess and beg forgiveness of his victims, his church, his family, God AND suffer the same criminal punishment that any other predator (with no millions on hand) should suffer=JAIL!
    THIS is exactly why so many abused childen stand silent! They are placed on the backburner for the good of their abuser! WHEN did we start sacrificing our children to keep their violators in good standing? Dollar ( a ridiculous name for a Bishop), should stand silent! Do these high profile money Bishops even believe what they preach? I’m not convinced. This is sickening and it will surely happen again. It also makes me wonder what Dollar has to hide (or keep hidden) by supporting such damaging acts. I don’t trust ANY of them!

  • Meanchick

    Sin? He violated children! That’s a crime! He sentenced those young men to a life of hurt, shame, confusion and depression. They will NEVER be right! Some of you call it a ‘sin’ and say he should be forgiven. He didn’t admit ti anything! He settled to keep his “sins” from going public If he is a true man of God, he should confess and beg forgiveness of his victims, his church, his family, God AND suffer the same criminal punishment that any other predator (with no millions on hand) should suffer=JAIL!
    THIS is exactly why so many abused childen stand silent! They are placed on the backburner for the good of their abuser! WHEN did we start sacrificing our children to keep their violators in good standing? Dollar ( a ridiculous name for a Bishop), should stand silent! Do these high profile money Bishops even believe what they preach? I’m not convinced. This is sickening and it will surely happen again. It also makes me wonder what Dollar has to hide (or keep hidden) by supporting such damaging acts. I don’t trust ANY of them!

  • Carol

    I agree with the position that Creflo Dollar should be ashamed of himself publically supporting Eddie Long.  Of course, as a Christian, I believe in forgiveness, but those young like for those young men – or for that matter for Eddie Long.  Did not at some point his conscience say to him “this is wrong?  First Catholic priests…..now this……enough already Jail time not less than ten years – mandatory and life without parole for children under the age of 16.  Period

  • larry

    He just being Biblical either you believe in forgiveness or not…Doesn’t matter if Dollar knew the truth or not Sin is Sin….No Big Sin No lil Sin

  • larry

     At the End of the Day he shouldn’t step down…He has to deal with his homosexuality problem with boys and men..He should not be allowed to counsel anyone alone!! It doesn’t take away the fact that a lot of lives have been changed for the g…ood under his leadership….Some people sin are before men and some people sin are hidden…When I saw the wig and all the tight shirts I knew he was questionable years ago..Real men don’t like tight clothes even is we are saggin. God will deal with him accordingly. No excuse he is called to a higher standards since he said he is a man called by God. We must remember his sin is Homosexuality and my sin was being a Womanizing/Adultress/Lying Cheating Man(My sin is more understandable and accepted I know but its just as bad in the sight of God I am sure)…God pulled the covers off of him to show him up I am sure which I pray will cause him to deal with that Homosexual demon if not he would still be parading around like this macho man preaching against what he is indulging in….Thanks God for pulling off the Covers…Now his sin has been Revealed he can be Healed!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/mer1maid Nancy Ellis

    We are the most relgious, have the most churches and are in the worst shape.  Think about it. Something is wrong!!!!

    • Jean

      Yes,something to think about about

    • Jean

      Yes,something to think about about

  • http://twitter.com/mer1maid Nancy Ellis

    We are the most relgious, have the most churches and are in the worst shape.  Think about it. Something is wrong!!!!

  • http://profiles.google.com/greeneink Renee Greene

    Yes, let us now PARTY UP in the name of the Lord.

    If Eddie Long can do it and get away with it, the rest of us are covered in the blood also.Let’s have some “wrecks.” A few Sunday school orgies and send naked pictures and pictures of ourselves in tights to solicit men, and other women. Let’s all get high and party IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, of course; so we can use our paid up insurance policies with God, too. If it’s alright for him, it’s alright for the rest of us.In truth and reality…God exposed that man to everyone because he is not to be a minister of a church or even a leader. It’s not Eddie Long who will be judged, it’s the church. Apparently, the Lord got tired of him doing it and getting away with it. The Bible is very direct about putting that minister where he belongs and off the leadership roles of that church.That’s not judgment, that is the scripturally correct way of handling these matters, according to the Word Of God. Eddie Long is no exception to that and neither is Creflo Dollar, should he be caught in the same indiscretions. That was Long’s choice and he is not a mere child who did not know what he was doing when he did it. He is a grown man.This is not about having “wrecks.” We all do. Wrecks in effect.This is about the indiscretions of a person who was in a lead role in his own church and what kind of example he sets for the generations and children down the road when he does these things and the church *winks* at it and excuses it just because he is some special exception to the Bible.Why in the world is anyone in a church that exemplifies such secular behavior anyway? I went to this church and it was surrounded with bodyguards. If that man of God had to have bodyguards, he was doing something he had no business doing in the first place. The Lord Himself didn’t even have bodyguards and He received daily death threats to the point where he was eventually crucified by the state for telling lies that He never told.Now here some mortal man is telling REAL lies and the church is supposed to just bow down and let him walk like it was no big deal? If it’s not a big deal for him, then it’s a not a big deal for anyone. We are all that special that we can sit and God will turn a blind eye to it and pretend it didn’t happen.I don’t mean to insinuate that Long is to be crucified, but he is certainly no David throwing pebbles at a “Goliath,” and certainly should not be in the pulpit of that church in a leadership position.He has poisoned the very spirit in which the Word of God was given to us. If Creflo Dollar backs him in this, it means Creflo has some indiscretions of his own that he wants covered over in case it comes out. It also means Creflo has sat under some adulterated erroneous fornicating teachings himself that would even come close to allowing him to laugh it off like that.The whole mega-church world is, without conscientious spiritual judgment in place, a humongous epic farce.

  • Catherine

    The next time Long has a so called  wreck he should fall on top of Dollar or one of his sons.  That way he will know how these young men feel.

  • Reggmail

    You Go Lord, No More Sheets / Covers,…expose them all.
    Now we continue to pray that the sheep develop wisdom and get out of the way
    before you turn into a pillar of salt also…Lol.

  • Karla

    What about  the children? All the focus is on the adults here. No wonder our youth are confused and acting up.  May God Mercy and Grace cover these boys/men. This man of God hurt them. So he took his money and made it right. What if it was your son or grandson, would you have the same attitude? I say forgive him and send  him on his way.  Long is not the only one who will be  punished by God. Those who support this and know it is against scripture will also be  punished. I thought a man of God is suppose to walk the walk and act out his beliefs. Dollar, if we felt like you felt, then we need to close all the jails, prisons and get  people off death row. When people kill little kids, say nothing because we all are sinners. We can forgive them and let them go on killing others  and forgive them again  and gain. Dollar, what kind of God do you serve?

  • http://www.facebook.com/dmoore59 David Moore

    Birds of a feather flock together. Just another devil in sheeps clothing.

  • Eric Walker

    Come on Mr Long! You
    are held to a higher standard. Mr Creflo Dollar if you agree with this
    mess you should step down also. Relating this to a car wreck! Man
    please! A wreck is a accident not a continuing ,hidden sexual perversion
    with young men. You settled because you were wrong and want it to stay
    hidden.
     

  • Context

    The Inconvenient Truth-We Worship God and Not Man. Thoughts on the Bishop Eddie Long scandal. Read it! http://draggreen.blogspot.com/

  • CW

    What do you expect from a con artist such as Creflo Dollar?  He is the worst sort of scum – period.  It doesn’t surprise me that he defends Eddie Long because thieves of a feather – FLOCK together.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Oliver/1250307039 Michael Oliver

    It leaves a distaste in my mouth as for what in happening to the body of Christ.My wife and I have been long members of New Birth,but upon hearing what had been going on we both decided not to attend. The bible say( Prov 16:18) that pride comes before fall, and I think that Bishop Long is too prideful to say anything. To conclude; God sees and knows it all. 

  • Arneader

    Sounds like Creflo is defending himself…..pastors are held in a higher standard of leadership…that’s why they are called Shepherds.   There are so many who have fallen and people say “they are just a man”.  I don’t play that.  I will leave a church in a minute if a pastor is “having wrecks—-affairs—stealing—etc.”  All I have to say is I’m glad it wasn’t my son….or me for that matter.  I would have had to take matters into my own hand forget paying people off.  These young men lives are messed up.

    • Desma

      But think about it, these pastors,rev, etc… are all just men thats it!! No one should put their faith in them!! And I think thats a mistake that most people make; they get brain washed into believeing that these pastors,rev,etc.. are profits!! And without paying attention they start praising the pastors!!! But like you said Creflo$$$ is defending himself.So when going to a church study the church first, see how the pastor act, see how he communicate with others, pay attention to how he teaches the word and how he brings his money into the church! Study that for a while and then decide if you would like that church for your church home because all pastors are not fake!!! Just be carefull and keep your money in your pocket!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_73CIKYA25XJQN4I3WN5CX6JTCU LEROY A

    If Dollar is defending Long than I will never watch or listen to he service again. I will forgive but I will not forget. It is scary when black people have so much faith in a person that they cannot stand to hear the truth, i.e, Obama many black people have such blind faith in Obama that no matter what he does to us they will support him, scary.

  • Gpace9764

    Hear the Words Of The Lord !!
     

    Romans 1

     

    18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
    ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not
    as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their
    foolish heart was darkened.
    22Professing themselves to be wise, they became
    fools,

    .24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through
    the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between
    themselves:25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
    the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.26For this
    cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change
    the natural use into that which is against nature:27And likewise also the men,
    leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another;
    men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that
    recompense of their error which was meet.28And even as they did not like to
    retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do
    those things which are not convenient;29Being filled with all unrighteousness,
    fornication, wickedness, 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which
    commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure
    in them that do them.

  • truth

    Not surprised by Dollars $, comments he is raping poor people to support his habit. He is a rapper in sheeps clothing, imagine having millions of dollars, expensive homes and private jets…………………… and all else. he is guilty of stealing from the poor.

  • http://robertray.info Robert J. Ray, CADC

    Demon dollar is is a member of the same false and evil club as Demon long.  All of these Christian minister are corrupt, therefore they corrupt their members of the Church.  The whole Christian Church is dead, because of their belief in three Gods, and the truth that there is only adultry, drunkedness, and quarreling carried on in it.  Think about it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1494986635 Taylor Kevin

    Don’t get it twisted people. I’ve been in the black church scene. The majority of these pastors are all on the down low, they have an entourage of gay men with them everywhere they go. The are far from role models. The are excellent orators, they speak well, make everyone ooohh and aaahhh cry, shout, that’s it. Behind it all are greedy individuals who are looking to make money off their poor members. The members that don’t own their own home, have no savings, have bad credit, don’t have their own business. These ministers are no different than Lil Wayne, Drake, Rick Ross and other musicians. At least these rappers tell it to your face, wear ice, talk about their cars, women and parties, they don’t front. Believe me not everyone who calls the name of Jesus will be in heaven. When Jesus comes back many people will be surprised who never made it. If someone says something bad about you, it’s probably false, if 2, 3, 4 people say something it’s probably true.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Olin-Ross/546574576 Olin Ross

    The first thing some will say, touch not thy anointed one…..First we must establish if this person is anointed…..Now how do we go about to determine if a person is really anointed…Pls tell me how……Anyone can just jump up in the pulpit & say I’m anointed…Even the devil…………Is it by your actions or your words…..????Anyone can answer those questions pls let me know……..Deception……..

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

      The only anointing these jokers got was heading out to Auburn Ave and buying some cheap oil from one of those roadside vendors and rubbing it on themselves, then using the K-Y Jel before taking the plunge without using any condoms…Remember one of muscle shit Eddie’s victim said he could still smell that cologne from Eddie, even after taking numerous baths…

  • Rain

    Long is GUILTY and everyone knows it. Why else would he not fight to clear his name of the horrible, sickening claims brought against him? What happened to his promise to his congregation that he would fight to the end to clear his name. Instead, he quietly settled with the plaintiffs for millions of dollars… apparently there was more evidence stacked against him than we all know about. Bottom line, his church members would be absolutely CRAZY to continue going to New Birth and continue giving Long their hard earned money for him to possibly use it to pay off more innocent victims later on down the line.

    Shame on Long, and shame on those that stand by him without holding him accountable for his actions. I am typically not one to judge, as no one is perfect, but when you stand in front of thousands of people week after week portraying yourself to be a Christian when you are really just a hypocrite in no position to condemn the acts of anyone else (as he has openly condemned gays), then you must be held accountable.

    And as for Creflo Dollar… he gets NO respect either. Any pastor that would turn people away, just to try to be faithful to an accused man that has not proven his innocence, is no real man of God. Creflo apparently has more obligation to Long than he has to the oath he took as a Pastor. Both Dollar and Long are shameful!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

  • Flemingfran

    I have read the many comments posted and I have just one question for Creflo Dollar.
    How would you handle the molestation of your daughters by a Minister?  Because this is  supposedly what happened to those young boys. So if there is any way that this question can be conveyed to Pastor Dollar could I please get an answer.

  • 2teachu

    I’ve aways thought Mr. Dollar was suspect.  I am not convinced of his calling to preach the gospel.

  • Madams427

    Because I have liked Bishop Eddie Long in the past I was able to dismiss the allegations brought against him based mostly on his denial,however I am no longer able to do so when he admits his guilt either by words or money an admission is just that! We as people cannot shake our heads at a priest who does the same thing but allow someone else to do it, why because he’s black? or someone we favor. As for Creflo Dollar I think that it is sad that a man of GOD would turn a man away from his church for any reason,Is it not his duty to GOD to teach the word and not judge! I am not one to break the law however,I know that not everyone accused and found guilty is guilty but I believe if faced with a problem I would not admit to anything that I didn’t do!!!!! As always I will pray for both of these men of the cloth because they will need it. 

  • Veda

    First thing First. The Church belongs to God not the preacher. It’s God that adds to the church. You don’t join a church, you join an organization. That’s why they feel they can decide who can attend or not. Instead of teaching wealth and prosperity, they should be teaching God’s plan for Salvation. If Mr Long committed those acts and settled out of court than he must be guilt and shouldn’t look for forgiveness when he didn’t confess either way if it was done. You need to repent and confess before you can be forgiven.

    • Desma

      He needs to confess in his church in front of his members as he would have them to do; just because his members looked up to him.

    • Desma

      He needs to confess in his church in front of his members as he would have them to do; just because his members looked up to him.

  • walter

    This man has lost his mind Creflo Dollar must be on crack or is he and Bishop Long Boodie Boys. I would stop going to his Mega church with his country ass. Long was wrong an Creflo you need to get a life if your sticking up for this under cover child molester. Why did he pay off the men he did this too, you country fake rev. Ike wanna be.

  • Aaron

    A Dollar could possibly be gay, it looks kinda “sweet”

  • Enlightened

    If Creflo Dollar didn’t state the other Pastor’s name and did not even give any details of the particular “wreck” that he was referencing, then how can the author of this foolish and assumptive article be taken seriously.  Did Dr. Boykin assume that Pastor Dollar was referencing Eddie Long because they both have churches in the Atlanta area?  The media has been casting stones at Creflo Dollar for years and hasn’t made any of their accusations stick nor have they ever proven to be factual.  And for years this same media actually upheld Eddie Long to the status of Demigod and take no portion of the blame for this out of control freak that they helped to create!!!! Now comes this silly and desperate article.  Dr. Boykin even had to admit at the end of his article that “…if Creflo Dollar was referring to Eddie Long, then he is disgusted…”  It would be nice if these PERSONAL Blog pages could be held accountable for the slander and liable that is posted by the authors as the licensed media is.  maybe then people will realize that their opinions aren’t really worth much…..Never mind, I forgot that the sensationlism gets them paid here too by the advertising dollars. ….Go on and continue this circus show that isn’t contributing a damn thing meaningful to the community that you pretend to want to help to improve… I would almost be willing to call it entertaining if it wasn’t so tragic.  Just a bunch of crabs in a barrel.

  • Beverly Goodwin

    I’m still waiting for my answer Rev. Whitehead.

    How many commandments are in the bible?

  • Jamesberryedd

    Pastor Dollar
    Thank you for being a Christian and supporting my pastor. We love him and we are going to support him just as Jesus has supported us daily. I ask that you never have to go thru any problems because what you reap is truly what you sow,   I strongly dislike blog because it is a form of bullying and harassment.
    God Bless You and We Love Bishop Long, Praise God for you Pastor Dollars Thank You!!!!
     

    • SapphiresMomma

      Jamesberryedd,

      LOL!

      “because what you reap is truly what you sow”

      Exactly!!

      And that is what will happen to Creflo Dollar and Eddie Long. Both are cons who have been sticking it to folks like you for decades.

      I am sure you must want your teen aged sons to spend the night with Eddie longStroke,  and you will certainly give your last dime to Dollar so he can add another wing to his mansion, right?

      Black folk! Please WAKE UP!!!

    • Beverly Goodwin

      Go home if you don’t like it here.

  • Blackcat1915

    I’m still trying to figure out the name Creflo who thought that was a good ass idea?  And then adding dollar on it make it so much better.  Seems like someone who would ask for 5 different offereings on Church on Sunday.  I quess if Creflo thinks Eddie is guaranteed a spot I need to change my way of thinking on this living right and treating people well thing….it seems to not be necessary

  • szollia

    I have just read most of the comments and have found them truly interesting.  As far as Eddie Long I think he needs to step down and get professional help.  I know God heals and ask us to forgive and I certainly can forgive when we know the truth of the situation.  There is no truth to the situation with Eddie and neither will it be known until he comes out and says what truly happened.  Eddie face up to what you did.  Tell the truth and be right with God.  Don’t hang all your hopes on being the great pastor to the people.  Let your hope rest in Christ alone.

    Now that I have said that – If that situation with Eddie Long and those boys happend to my son you would have to drag me off Eddie Long.  Also I would like to believe I would not take that blood money because as the truth is hidden it gives Eddie Long the opportunity to molest again.

    These young mens lives are changed forever.  Eddie stalked those kids and took there innocense from them.  How awful – How depraved – My heart aches for these young men.

    As for the sheep from Eddie Long’s church who posted here stating that they love there pastor – I don’t think you would feel the same if your sons had been molested.  How on earth can you trust a man who lies and doesn’t face up to their sins.

    As for Creflo dollar if you read the old testament the priest where given the second best choice meat of the offerings.  They were treated well by God.  I don’t personally have a big problem with preachers being rich but I do look twice when I see a oppolince of riches that just don’t make sense.  How big does your house have to be?

    Anyway  I think Creflo make a mistake in what he said that Sunday morning.  That is not his church to say who can come – the church belongs to Jesus Christ.  I truly hope he apologizes on air, mans up to what he said, get forgiveness and move on.

    And finally if my son had been molested by Eddie Long I would have to forgive and walk in love in order to keep my life in Christ right.  You can’t harbor bitterness in your heart.

    • Beverly Goodwin

      A pedophile cannot be rehabilitated.

    • Beverly Goodwin

      If my child was molested, that xtian teaching and lifestyle would go by the wayside and I don’t forgive or forget.

      Re-read the passage on homosexuality in the OT.

  • AnthonyII

    The fact that CREate a FLOw of DOLLARs supports the bishop represents the final gavel for me.  These two do more damage to the Black Church, and religion in general and it leaves me with this question as to whether they believe the God they claim to represent is watching their actions and deeds or if they even care.

  • Lgrey745

    Those crooks thick together.  All they do is use poor people;and once they break them down to zero. They only give them bent up cans of food out of their pantry to eat.  I previously gave money to World Changers and defended them; until I got close and found out for myself that the statements that are being made about them are correct.  They trick  people out of thier money and then once the person stop giving them money.  They belittle them; it is an occult. They play mind games on people to see how much they can get away with.  It is modern day slavery; they speak about having  500 employees; but they don’t telll how many slaves they have over there.  O, and to work their you have to allow them to take tithes out of your paycheck off the top.  Not, counting the bucket plucketting he does.  Opening the church up twice a day; so he can scam more money out of people.  I have to give it to that pimp; he really knows how to pimp men and women.

  • Pgh4life

    I support Creflo, what business did his daughter have wanting to go to a party around 1 in the morning!!!……she needed an ass whipping, disrespecting her household and her father. We as a society are WEAK, we arrest those who discipline our children for a good reason, and are not abusing them, AND YET WE TAKE KIDS BACK TO THE HOMES OF ABUSIVE PARENTS WHO NEVER GET ARRESTED ONLY TO BURY THOSE KIDS DAY, WEEKS, MONTHS LATER. He is just being guilty of being a good father wanting more for his daugther, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BIG CHURCHES AT ALL!!!! PLEASE PEOPLE GET A GRIP!!! 

  • JohnMajor

    Funny how none of them ever built a business and made it big they built a following based on illusion and fantasy….where they are the financial benefactor of the message of giving, sowing and reaping.  they have it practiced and poliched to perfection but nobody questions it because it would mean they are of little faith and influenced by the devil.  Dollar, Copeland and a hand full of others preach mysticism and it is almost like the ferver of multi level marketing.  Any time you give and shortcut to material gain people will send in their money. MIracle preachers, money prosperity and apocolyptic preachers experience rich pay days from their listeners.  The truth is too boring and does not sell like this exagerated message.

    • JohnMajor

      I spent a lot of time in these mega churches and ministries until I grew out of it into the real truth.  Come on people grow up and drop this BS from these people who only profit from your gullible and generous hearts.